Horrific Crimes Inspired By Internet Myths

[@wavywebsurf]

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[@RyansColoradoRailProductions]

Do you think that’s a good sponsor when the name of the girl in the thumbnail is Morgan?

[@saber_the_silly]

lmao @@RyansColoradoRailProductions

[@gethroenteralastname2210]

@@RyansColoradoRailProductions Honestly thought that the ad read was a Creepy Pasta.

[@lloydlejack-official]

Morgan and Morgan gives me HHM (Hamlin, Hamlin, McGill) vibes

[@sylvael2889]

They must have paid you well. What a strange and out of touch sponsor lmfao

[@norcalbowhunter3264]

My nephew was really into Slenderman when that stabbing happened. It made my aunt really paranoid and she asked me if I knew anything about it since she knew I was up on that kind of stuff. I told her about creepypasta and how he was just a made up guy that became big and had a couple video games. My nephew, who was a young child at the time, stood there mad saying "He's real! You just don't know what you're talking about." So I ended up telling him I knew exactly what I was talking about because I was the one who made it up. He was more impressed to have an uncle who created Slenderman than he was that Slenderman was real. So he bought it and ended up telling his whole school his uncle created Slenderman 😂

[@Kira_Official_]

Hey, if it stopped him from believing it was real, what harm was done in the end?

[@Fooza05]

Dude that's so badass

[@TR-qf2gt]

man rlly larp’d as Victor Surge 😂 good on ya dude

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

It’s a little disturbing that he’s so young he can’t understand the weight of the crime

[@straawberryfieldsforever]

you are not Eric Knudsen

[@neurofunkie]

It's wild that the first case so many points were skimmed over. She cried and begged her father for help with voices and was clearly distressed by her mental state, that was only getting worse and worse, just for it to go ignored. Not only that, but they gave her free reign online and exposed her to more horror and violence via media when she was already a terrified child with PTSD and other severe issues that haven't been named. Poor step mom married into this. Kinda silly to blame it all on the creepypasta

[@absolutesquid1268]

Thanks for the extra info, random stranger

[@neurofunkie]

@@Piibbish Literally every report about this case and even the prosecutors admitted this happened because her mental health conditions went ignored. You clearly didn't look into this case at all if you think he tried everything lmfao

[@agencymenace1090]

​@itsafeaturenotabug6773 You're so right, he should go to prison for the wife's murder since he is solely and completely responsible. The girl didn't do anything wrong.

[@lovelyume0222]

@@agencymenace1090 That's not what anyone is saying, but okay.

[@neurofunkie]

@@agencymenace1090 Standard reasoning and reading skills for someone with ''An eye for an eye and world goes blind.'' in their profile.

[@ArthurTheHumanIsPog]

Morgan & Morgan is the scariest creepypasta.

[@MORONIC_official]

It was so scary that I skipped it. I might have nightmares tonight lol

[@br1qbat]

Garbage law firm. Hope they paid well. Lol

[@ClickClack_Bam]

Joe Biden is. Sniffs kids... even right in front of their parents. Sniff's wife's hair... right in front of husbands. Showers with his daughter.

[@ace.l.w]

This comment brought to you by Attorney Tom

[@BronzeDragon133]

He could have at least done that shirtless to increase interest. ...only me? I'm actually OK with that.

[@ravenslight7934]

JT was clearly distressed by her mental state. She begged and pleaded with her father to make the voices stop, but instead of doing anything to help her, he ignored it. If your kid tells you they're hearing voices, take them to a psychologist for evaluation! Don't dismiss them. Morgan had schizophrenia. It's a horrible, debilitating disease that literally takes over your life. She might have had a personality disorder too, and no one did anything to try and help her. Same with Anissa.

[@itskasskass]

I’m not saying this was the case here, but in the latino culture, a lot of the older generation does not believe in mental health.

[@kirstym.]

Anissa had shared delusion syndrome.

[@AngelleAnnie-cs1te]

Yeah, they rlly don't. ​@@itskasskass

[@ocirl7195]

You can’t help a mentally ill person

[@laurarena741]

@@itskasskassthis is what my thoughts immediately went to. A lot of people even my parents’ age don’t agree that some of these mental disorders that cause some so so many problems bc they don’t think they even exist. I’m in the USA, and it’s common for older adults to not think most of the mental health disorders that exist are real.

[@lindsey12345]

The Slenderman stabbing is so frustrating because there was already a schizophrenia diagnosis in the family so they knew the signs but when they saw her exhibiting symptoms but chose to ignore it. If the family hadn't buried their heads in the sand this could've all been prevented. The parents were negligent here

[@mosshivenetwork117]

It looks like some parents don't give a f about their kids.

[@TheZodiacRipper]

@@mosshivenetwork117 Having mentally ill children is sometimes seen as a shame, usually by the mother. Then we have those parents that did care and the doctors gave them Zoloft making it even worse.

[@rosemadder5547]

And it happens so often. Look at the latest school sh**ting. The boy literally asked his parents for help and was making drawings, and the parents were told they day to take him home, which they refused to do. So many families ignore their kids when they're clearly calling out for help, sometimes literally, sometimes simply with behavior. People still think mental illness is all fake, too. It's just awful.

[@rosemadder5547]

​​@@TheZodiacRipper usually by the mother? I disagree. Fathers are more likely to expect their kids to "toughen up" and pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I'm sure it's equal, and sex doesn't make a difference. What would make a difference is how you were raised, if your parents felt the same, religious beliefs, etc. Just because something has happened in your own life, doesn't mean that's how it is in general for the entire population of a group of people. Like men, women, etc. Just like the old belief that women weren't domestic abusers, weren't susceptible to alcoholism, etc. Same with the Zoloft thing. Zoloft has mental health benefits for tons of people, not so with other, in such cases they should tell their doctor and try a new medication. Your comment comes across as personal experience that you're pinning onto the population in general. Getting meds for your symptoms is worse than just ignoring them? You sound like the type of person you're talking about in the first place!!

[@kashinimeyo]

@@mosshivenetwork117 the father, who had schizophrenia, still CHOSE to reproduce and that’s a bit of a problem. It’s always the arrogance and narcissism that you see in breeders that think they’ll be better at raising perfect children with no effort or care than what should be allowed. We’ve KNOWN schizophrenia is an inheritable disorder for decades upon decades and it should’ve been on him and the people around him to not allow that to pass on. Not all schizophrenics are violent, but some are and the risk of that coupled with condemning your offspring to a less than happy life is what is truly selfish about his choice of reproducing.

[@rionthemagnificent2971]

This is what (to me), Killed Creepypasta. Plus the Media did what it always did, *blame the fictional stories / television shows* instead of blaming the real problem.. which is usually an untreated mental illness / Pyschopathy. This also happened to Beavis and butt-head. (The fire incident, it was a load of bullshit that the media hopped on, even though the kid who started the fire, his parents were trailer park junkies and left matches and lighters everywhere. it was a matter of time before that trailer caught fire. yes it was tragic that the kid's sister died.. but the blood is on the parents' hands. Also, the kid never even saw "Beavis and Butthead, he didn't have cable.)

[@SethirophBayonet666]

Yeah. It is BS. The media sometimes tends to blame fictional characters and media for stuff like this. Fictional characters and media have nothing to do with someone's mental health. People that actually believe that certain media "caused" a crime. Is like saying violent games "cause shootings" which is not true. I play violent games, and I don't commit crimes. I actually know better than some people. And more people have to realize that fictional movies/games have nothing to do with IRL crimes that have happened. It actually makes me upset that people point fingers at things that they don't know anything about. They probably haven't even seen or played these things before.

[@ZombieSazza]

@@SethirophBayonet666and if we look back at history this sort of blame game has always existed, nowadays it’s “violent video games” that create criminals, in the past it was “violent movies”, before that it was “scary books”. Just constantly blaming any creepy media instead of acknowledging mental health issues

[@masterseal0418]

Even video games and music are blamed for real world tragedies, which I despise. Whether it's Manhunt or Final Fantasy VIII encouraging a murder in the UK for the former and Mexico for the latter, or Columbine having ties to industrial artists I adore such as KMDFM and Nine Inch Nails(which both denied allegations, prior to KMFDM's founders Sascha Konteisko working on a side project with Skold and later permanent member Lucia Caffreli called MDFMK after En Esch and Gunther Shultz left due to internal conflicts between members, whereas the aforementioned Skold and Raymond Watts/PIG went into successful solo careers, but KMFDM later reunited with 2002's Attak and 2003's WWIII). Frankly, blaming the media especially what I mentioned earlier, worsens the aftermath of a tragedy, and turns out to be book-burning and fearmongering than anything poisoning the youth. Mental health is more important to treat before all hell breaks loose, rather than let the person either become a murderer or kill themselves and blame shit like Judas Priest causing two men to take their own lives or think Minecraft caused one cause of terroristic acts. And the fact manga became the new target of entitled parents from Florida, is concerning in fact. One parent group was successful in banning Assassination Classroom from some school districts(despite being oblivious to it's context), and sadly Attack On Titan and Death Note are about to be next in line. Just let the kids enjoy their manga, and all this made me realize it's similarities to satire towards southern US parents(including the ones from Alabama, regarding their homophobia/racism).

[@TheKuroKing]

This is not what killed CreepyPasta 😂 what killed CreepyPasta was people moving on as they grew up and people trying to re hash old iconic creepypastas

[@christophermoshier]

You are 100% correct. I made a video on this for one of my channels. It showed how since books media has been blamed for violence. Movies. Television. Comic Books. Video Games. Of course, there was violence in mass proportions before any of that. As you indicated the real issue is never addressed. Some people make a lot of money going after different types of media over the years. They manipulate zombie sheep to follow their cause while they laugh all the way to the bank with their books, and television appearances, and talks.

[@almighty3946]

A note to parents…. If your child is saying that they ate hearing voices and they are over 10 yrs old… TAKE THEM TO A PSYCHOLOGIST!!!!

[@eadweard.]

Why over 10?

[@honeycoateddreams929]

​@@eadweard.Under that could possibly just have an overactive imagination.

[@ElaineClush]

@@eadweard.While less common from like ages 6-8 it doesn’t always phase out by then, and sometimes it’s imaginary friends, pareidolia and hyperactive kid imagination, could be a way to get your attention. If they’re hitting double digits and developing a more complex way of understanding things than their previous years, and they’re still claiming to see or hear people- This is often a sign of things like schizophrenia, DID, specific kinds of Bipolar, or BPD particularly if it maintains in their teen years

[@ElaineClush]

The disorders take many years to develop and often won’t develop into full-in disorders, until a bit later in childhood or teenage adolescence

[@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic]

Uhhhhh, any age. Not just over 10.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

Second dude is also known as the amazon review killer he literally did reviews for everything he bought to kill/imprison/torture his victims with.

[@basementdwellercosplay]

That's what I knew him as, I recognized his photo and realized he was the killer who hinted at his killings on Amazon but people thought it was a joke review

[@astrowolvez]

Oh it’s that guy

[@slaughtergang518]

Ima try that just to mess with law enforcement

[@Username1924REAL]

@@slaughtergang518 Bro? WHAT your gonna kill people?!!!!

[@Hohenstein1871]

​@@slaughtergang518Yeah very good idea and the next time some actual psycho does it it's going to be ignored because it's "just another troll, like the last one" which gives said psycho the possibility to keep going on. You're a real chad and funny aswell!

[@julieclark1797]

My son, at about 9 or 10, read the Ben Drowned creepypasta. He became convinced that our copy of Majora's mask was cursed. I ended up having to hide it for about a year, but he outgrew it. Guess I got lucky with that part.

[@SedriqMiers]

stay away from the weed.

[@KarmaLovesPee]

you should monitor what your child sees on the internet

[@hana-a-cha]

Nah, that's not you being lucky, that's you actually hearing your child and (temporarily) getting rid of something that's seemingly causing them distress. As a parent should. These stories were about parents completely ignoring the kids not being well.

[@kttstrwbry]

i love majoras mask. such a good game ! 12 yr old me was so scared of ben drowned LMAO

[@yukisturningintomalestory2909]

@@KarmaLovesPeewho said they weren’t? 🤨 some things kids get scared of

[@originsmenagerie9920]

As a member of the Creepypasta Fandom, I speak for all of us when I say that we do not condone real violence.

[@nwerd7584]

no, the ogs on the X board.. do and did condone violence like myself.. its just you'll go to prison if you're not some protected class.

[@Iknowthishandleistaken]

@@nwerd7584What? Nah man if you condone REAL violence, then that’s a problem

[@moonbloom2262]

​@nwerd7584 dude what the hell. Most creepypastas were just made for fun, to spook people, either as story's, videos or images. If you condone real violence and the only thing that's stopping you is the fact that you'll go to prison if you act on it, you really need to get some help.

[@pinkieshydrawsmusicworld7713]

I'm part of the Creppypasta fandom too,in the brazilian one,we roleplay violence only to give action as well as animes,but we don't like real life violence.

[@reallytheguy]

@@nwerd7584woah, this guy’s hard!

[@ZombieSazza]

I’m really glad Kayla survived being kidnapped for that length of time, she had to pretend to care for Todd to survive as he r*ped her regularly. I hope she’s getting the support and love she deserves, I can’t imagine the horrors she witnessed.

[@SailorMya]

And losing someone she loved on top of all that...

[@LuckyDineroTv]

Scary part is ..that was real….. so imagine how many not caught 😮😮

[@chitlitlah]

She definitely had to endure a lot, but her boyfriend had it worse.

[@jaydenmedina4068]

@@chitlitlaheh not really not to say he didn’t suffer but from what it seems he died not too long after the original situation opposed to his wife who had to live with his death and being abused by a man for 2 months

[@lisanee]

​@@chitlitlah... so being dead for 2 months is significantly worse than being raped and tortured for 2 same months? have you ever heard of 'better dead than this'? i get that it's not a competition of who got it worse, but downplaying the horror that poor woman had to go through because her significant other died is just gross.

[@IvyDarkRose]

I remember when the whole Slender stabbings happened as the fandom as a whole went through a standstill and we just were in a huge disbelief. Its crazy to see everything going down in real time and now being talked about on many videos.

[@ZaZa_DM_88]

😊

[@whispywhiteboy8598]

For me it's even crazier because I'm from the city of the stabbings and having to be known for that and now the parade incident its just crazy

[@ItsBigBrainTime101]

I remember a lot of the prominent narrators in the community did a charity livestream to raise money for Payton and her family. Many of the community condemned the actions of the two girls. 💔

[@mcole5780]

@@ItsBigBrainTime101I would hope the entire community condemned those actions…

[@bonnietelocole6777]

From what little I remember, a lot of younger artists also took to the Internet to post art of Slendermen killing the two girls and saving the victim in response to the crime. I didn't follow any Creepypasta KZbinrs at the time, so I wasn't aware of any wider response than that.

[@Chickadeemedicine]

The Laughing Jack and Morgan tales are just proof we need to take youth mental illness seriously. Trust me as a diagnosed psychotic, it is not just good imagination when we hear voices well into school age (according to my stable friends that usually stops by grade 1-2, aka like 7-8 at most) Also even if it is imagination the negative and harmful directions are still worth addressing with professional help be it psychiatric or developmental or whatever. Stable kids don’t have murderous imaginations or homicidal ideation

[@SMCwasTaken]

Maybe they did

[@idioteza]

Couldn't agree more! Also, regarding the "even if it's imagination" bit- I had OCD since childhood through adolescence. People seem to think that OCD is just liking to keep things clean and wanting you sharpies in a certain order. I had to live w/ intrusive thoughts about harming loved ones and thought about ending my life multiple times as I believed I was a monster and that I'd be the best way to protect my family. Take mental illness seriously y'all.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@SMCwasTaken Morgan was literally diagnosed before the trial even started.

[@chrisb2038]

go take your meds lil bro

[@archivelibrarian6818]

@@chrisb2038 youre so funny. im laughing. that was so funny bro. haha.........

[@xfrostphoenixx]

I still remember the day that the Slenderman stabbing happened, the whole CreepyPasta & Slenderverse communities were absolutely shocked. Even as a young teen at the time, I couldn’t believe the heinous actions and taking something clearly fiction as reality. This is why mental health is so important.

[@SHADOMEGA7569]

I was like 18 when I heard about this and even I stopped and said "how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe Slenderman is real"

[@loadingresourcesdotdot]

@@SHADOMEGA7569first of all, they were children. Children are gullible. And second of all one of them was schizophrenic. Imagine at 12 hallucinating him, and genuinely believing he’ll murder you if you don’t stab your friend. Wouldn’t that be terrifying? They weren’t “fucking stupid” they were ill.

[@mosshivenetwork117]

​@@SHADOMEGA7569lol

[@Titanic-wo6bq]

I wasn't even a teenager yet in 2014 and my young mind just had to take a moment to comprehend what I was reading.

[@tireddtye]

I’m someone who’s very into psychology and I just wanted to mention in relation to the first case with the girl being diagnosed with DID. DID is NOT a disorder in which someone becomes dangerous. This girl was obviously going through something mentally that had no relation with her DID. The voices MIGHT be from her having DID. Also want to add that there is no such things as an “evil alter”. For the girl it’s most likely that the alter(s) (if thats whats happening) who were speaking in her mind thought that the only real way to help/protect her was to have her cause harm to others and to make her slowly feel like she’s going crazy. Or she could have just been misdiagnosed with DID and have schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder instead

[@pinkisayakasfavcolor]

i have did, thank you very much for this comment 💗i was thinking the same thing

[@thiscrazylife2932]

I have DID and I can confirm that WE are not dangerous nor do WE have any violent thoughts or anything along the lines of threatening in any sense of the word. Just wanted to speak up on the topic. WE apologize if we shouldn't have replied ❤

[@shotsfired9527]

I believe she had schizophrenia as well as DID. Her seeing and hearing the voices of Jack gave me a sneaking suspicion that she had schizophrenia. It makes sense that her alter took on a “demonic killer"-like personality. Otherwise, why would she be acting like a stereotypically possessed human, i.e., hunched in creepy positions, talking weird, grinning creepily, etc.?

[@daisybutinhertennisoutfit]

I guess what I’m wondering is, who’s to say a traumatized brain would absolutely never form an alter that is ruthless, cutthroat, and aggressive for the sake of protecting the host? If the development of many maladaptive trauma responses and personality disorders stem from severe abuse and trauma, as is the leading theory for DID, why would a similar response not be possible for DID? I hope I’m making sense. This isn’t to vilify those with DID or to say everyone with DID is violent. As someone with a psych degree, my own mental illnesses and disorder, and who currently works in behavior therapy, I believe it’s important to be honest about the reality of mental illness. Like, destigmatization shouldn’t be about “It’s not actually that bad”, it should be “It can very well be that bad and sadly maybe worse, but these are human beings who need compassion and care, and their illness does not reduce their humanity”. Not saying that you’re dishonest :) Just interested in the discussion.

[@shotsfired9527]

@@daisybutinhertennisoutfit My personal theory follows that as well. My only question is why did she act demonic? An alter can be aggressive, sure, but why the purposely added “creep factor”? If the alters formation was to just protect the child, why would the alter begin to act as if it was a fake horror movie monster? It could be due to her interest in the horror genre and creepypasta’s considering her age too. Maybe the behaviour was a result of her limited influence from environmental sources(acted as a character because she was only truly exposed to that particular behaviour aside from the behaviour of her primary influences)? I’d be interested in your opinion since you have formal education in this sort of field.

[@TheHitsubasa]

You left out the weirdest part about Kohllhepp. He was called something like the Amazon Review killer. Lazy Masquerade just talked about him recently. Kohlhepp kept leaving cryptic reviews on products like locks and chains, shovels, and other items used on his victims

[@SquishyTheVampire]

Amazon review killer

[@TheHitsubasa]

@@SquishyTheVampire thank you I was trying to remember I wasn’t sure if it was eBay or Amazon

[@warbossgegguz679]

He left reviews knowing people would see it as just dark humor or something even though it was literal, yeah. Dude was disturbingly smart tbh, but as a narcissist his ego was his main downfall. The interrogation footage of him though is super disturbing. He's so casual and borderline proud of it all... disgusting human being.

[@THRICELY]

I feel that you really misrepresented Morgan and Anissa in the Slenderman case. Why did you leave out the parts where Anissa tried to knock Peyton out in the park bathroom and when she signaled Morgan to attack Peyton by telling her “go ballistic”? You seem intent on presenting Anissa as a misguided bystander when she was, in fact, a very active participant without the excuse of schizophrenia.

[@meelabee4400]

This is what I thought.

[@metaloverload7374]

Proof or it didn't happen.

[@THRICELY]

@@metaloverload7374 Watch the interrogation tapes. Anissa admits these details firsthand.

[@notericforeman]

A lot of sources do this, i’ve noticed. I’ve never actually seen any online sources that *don’t* paint anissa as an innocent bystander. Even when it first happened, all media said Morgan was the ringleader and the one who did everything.

[@warbossgegguz679]

90% of the coverage of this case seems to take this perspective and having seen the interrogation footage and read up on their background I cannot understand. For example: Morgan and Payton never really "stopped being friends" just because of Payton's parents, but Anissa and Payton basically hated each other and only interacted because they were both friends with Morgan... which in a normal court case you would call "a motive" but here I guess everyone has just decided it's a meaningless coincidence. Or that Anissa was literally the one to introduce creepypasta and slender man to Morgan. Throughout their whole interrogations it's very clear that Anissa is aware of Morgan's mental issues and uses them to present herself as this innocent girl dragged along for all this even when it's entirely unprompted. Likewise, her and Morgan's testimony contradicts constantly, but Anissa's is presented in such a way where basically all of the blame and planning was Morgan's doing vs. Morgan's testimony making blame 50/50. The latter being a really bad idea if you're trying to get away with murder, while the former is exactly what someone who got caught breaking the law would try to do. But because of her condition, Anissa's legal team was able to get the court to disregard EVERYTHING Morgan said. IDK man, whole thing from all I've looked into sounds a lot more sinister than "a poor little girl got dragged into this plot by her schizophrenic murderer friend 😭" at the VERY LEAST she was an WILLING accomplice, but people are already biased against mentally ill people + the court ruling makes every youtuber act like Morgan is a monster and Anissa is just some girl in over her head.

[@ShadowGamer-fg4jo]

I remembered the slender man stabbing, when I asleep my dad entered my room and asked me if I know about slender man. I was confused on why he was asking me this but I said yes. Then he asked me if slender man was real, obviously I said no and that’s when he showed me the news article about the stabbing. Let’s just say I was absolutely shocked that night and I’m glad that I know the boundaries between fiction and reality. Thanks for making the video wavy keep up the great work.

[@Hatsune-Miku_Fan]

Parents ignore their childrens deteriorating mental health and then wonder why they turn out like this

[@Matrixorial]

i fucking hate parents. The mothers especially like why is every single mother like this? Just puts a bad impression on a gender.

[@hedmeddig]

I was actually a "slender kid" drawing him everywhere, thinking about the story all the time, and even started getting worried that he was real, however because I wasn't insane the thought eventually vanished and i grew up normal. It's sad how mental illnesses affected these kids

[@LightSage89]

It's crazy how everytime you listen to a true crime story from a different perspective you learn new things. I have heard the kidnapping of Charlie and Kayla several times. I had even heard of the couple that was kidnapped and killed by Todd before them, the Amazon reviews that Todd posted rating how good the products were at helping him commit unaliving. But I have never heard of the mocking Facebook posts.

[@dr.zoidburger7515]

For real, had me thinking it was a completely different story but I thought I recognized the beginning of it

[@slaughtergang518]

You should learn new language and watch it from that perspective. You can try with subtitles on youtube and watch it with subtitles

[@YehudiNimol]

I first heard about this story from the Explore With Us video. I recall that they did mention him writing on his victim's Facebook page, but it wasn't emphasized as much as in this video

[@Anna101shark]

Very that! I would have thought other channels wouldn't have left the fb thing out because it seems important.

[@excitingspade49]

Here's another tidbit he actually fucked up I believe when using the dead man's fb account and accidentally commented on a family members post with his actual fb account by accident which lead police to his house, while a separate team infiltrated his other property where Kayla was found

[@Leo-wh1st]

My mother is good friends with Angie, Morgan's mother. Morgan had early onset schizophrenia, my brother also has it, it's how our parents met. So often, schizophrenia gets portrayed as "haha I hear voices uwu" and it's disgusting. It's a horrific disease, it takes complete control of your thoughts, it's legitimately like being possessed. It's watching your body moving on its own, speaking on its own, with no control over any of it. She didn't want to hurt her, I fully, 100% believe that, because I have seen exactly what this disease does to children, and I heard my brother sob for hours on end about how he didn't want to hurt anyone but he knew that if he didn't get help, he would. That's what this disease does. You don't have a choice, you're not in control. Morgan was a very, very sick little girl. Schizophrenia is incredibly difficult to treat, early onset even more so because you can't use all the medications and treatments on children. And it's expensive, incredibly so, my family spent tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket every year for my brother's treatments and that was after insurance, and even with everything at your disposal, there's still no way to treat it 100%, and it takes years to even get it manageable. What happened was horrific, especially to Payton, but Morgan is a victim of a disorder just as much as Payton is a victim of Morgan. She was demonized by the media, portrayed as a monster because it's easier to do that than to actually address the problems with this country's mental health care. Her mother was blamed for not doing enough because it's easier to do that than accept that someone in this country was refused access to the resources and funds to even try to help her child. There are no winners in this situation, except the legal system that made a hell of a paycheck off of the trauma of these girls. The only upside to it is that it gave Morgan the resources she needed to get help. There is _no reason_ those resources should have been restricted until after she lost control of her disease and hurt someone.

[@jolynelovemail]

I agree with this entirely. Reading about this case and hearing the way some people talk about it is upsetting. Of course she believed in Slenderman if her brain was making her see/hear him. As far as I’m aware she thought her family was in danger and that she had to do what she did. Obviously some consequences are deserved but being painted as a monster by thousands of adults for being a child with severe mental health issues is a fate nobody deserves.

[@RadikAlice]

Thank you, couldn't have said it better. Fuck Anisa, she's the real monster. Definitely the type to rat other people out if it benefits her, still makes my blood boil she got a lesser sentence. Goes to show you that appearing "sane" is all you need to get off easy. Stigmatization 101

[@vacuumblink2300]

Imagine thinking it’s okay to try to kill someone else over a fictional story. Smh

[@notericforeman]

@@vacuumblink2300 Morgan DOESNT think its okay. As a child, a SICK CHILD, her brain told her that if she didn’t do what she did, something horrible would happen to her loved ones. She felt mentally compelled and could not stop herself. She never thought it was OKAY to do.

[@Leo-wh1st]

@@vacuumblink2300 Imagine thinking a young child of an age that are already predisposed to believing fictional stories and that has been clinically diagnosed with a disease that by definition prevents her from properly discerning reality should be expected to know that the thing she's seeing and hearing every day is fictional just because a healthy person who doesn't have active hallucinations of it would be able to. Smh

[@Zeroshiki]

As soon as I heard the name Todd Kohlhepp, I remembered the story. I really feel for Kala, I hope she's doing okay now. Not only losing her boyfriend, but then being repeatedly violated and locked up, it's just senseless. Hearing stories like this make it so difficult to trust anything.

[@EarlyAttempts]

I've heard about Kayla's case before. Absolutely sick. He had killed another couple before kidnapping Kayla. He lured them in with work, killed the dude, attempted to kill the woman, but she fought back, and so he killed her.

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

People love to forget that these parents didn’t bother helping their children when they’ve shown clear signs of deteriorating mental health and blame it all on the internet

[@JinxSanity]

As someone who was in the Internet before Creepypastas and saw how Slenderman began and was created and then turn into some weird identity were dumb kids go as far as putting in the same level as Bigfoot.. I just facepalm at how ridiculous the entire history is and that people even got hurt. Especially with Jeff the killer who downright references the work he's stealing from in the original story and let's you know he's just a edgy emo Joker.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

The Joker is already plenty edgy tho

[@coinwater8511]

I liked slenderman a lot until everyone started making "lore" and crap. Like, just let it be a scarry monster. He doesn't need to have friends and motives and relationships.

[@ZombieSazza]

@@coinwater8511I loved slenderman when he was just a creepy figure wandering the woods, he was mysterious and nobody knew anything about him, to me that was more interesting. Naturally the internet ruined slenderman

[@lern2reed]

Kinda a weird flex, considering anyone who believed Slenderman was real, was a literal child. Their brains are all mush, of course they believe dumb shit

[@GermanAntifurry1871]

The fact is they made a whole movie about the creepy pasta😭

[@nyny2263]

my grandma actually lived near the woods where the slender man crime was , me and my friends and siblings used to play hide and seek in those woods ( looking back on it is crazy , like why were we unsupervised 😭) so when I saw what happened my jaw literally dropped .

[@nyny2263]

@@stickbugstickbug6320 it wasnt until AFTER we found out , me nd my siblings never went through those woods ever again bruh .

[@nyny2263]

@@Navi_xoo totally agree , it was lots of kids too so we would all play outside and whatever but afterwards we just played outside our houses 🙅🏽‍♀️.

[@cantsneedgaming4591]

​@@stickbugstickbug6320lol

[@ShadowJack4488]

But fr, think.. we’re any of your friends LIKE THIS? Probably not. Y’all probably had each other backs. Like one fight a pedo or sumn we all jump on him 😂 at least that’s how it was for me growing up in Detroit around bad dudes and street dogs😂😂💀much love!!💪♥️

[@nyny2263]

@@ShadowJack4488 lmaoo I'm from Milwaukee we was def on that type of timeee 😂

[@harryfleutv666]

The creepiest thing about the LJ case is that the author, Snuffbomb, turned out to be a groomer 😩

[@janerecluse4344]

Man, so the creepypasta was practically a confession. A monster that gets to kids by pretending to be a friend...

[@Clonekiller66]

Do you have a source for that?

[@harryfleutv666]

@@Clonekiller66 just look it up, tbh idk for sure but people who know him have said that

[@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917]

​@@janerecluse4344this remind me of Jeeper Creepers Movie

[@Papapsoso]

Why is everyone a groomer bruh 😭😭

[@bobdylan1968]

Doctors REFUSING to take care of kids mental health is EXTREMELY common. Extremely common. Any case that's hard they will refuse. You will spend all night, weeks, looking for a hospital bed for them. It's evil. Actually evil. It's about cost reduction and making things easier. I had a girlfriend that does this for a living. And she'd come home crying not being able to find places that would take the kids. I had that issue when I was a kid with severe bipolar. They want sad kids, suicidal kids, not manic kids, not insane kids, not kids who's mental illness is ugly. Where it's not just this sad cute romantic thing. It's evil. It really is. We as a society abandon these kids. Abandon them.

[@Seinsmelled]

stab stab stab

[@ellis7622]

That’s wild that they can just saw “naw, she’s too messed up. We want easy kids to work with.”

[@burntfrostedflakes]

girl HOW did u get that idea? The first priority (at least in good hospitals) when admitting a kid in is to ensure that the kid WONT BE A DANGER TO THE OTHER KIDS! If they are, some hospitals will put in extra measures, but in this case she was beyond dangerous for the other kids, and the hospital could be held liable. Plus, an average mental hospital isn’t built to sustain people THAT harmful. when refusing an admission It’s usually for the safety of the patients and staff , not for cost or whatever the fuck you’re on about.

[@spastickid218]

​@@burntfrostedflakesMaybe outside of America, but here everything is cost over anything else. Hospitals are a business here. They're about making money first, helping people second. And manic, dangerous kids have a higher risk of having hospitals lose money than make it. It's easier for them to send those kinds of kids away so they can fall into the prison pipeline and only take the sad kids that you can prescribe hundred dollar bottles of pills while they lay in bed all day. It sucks. It really does. I wish it was different. I hope one day it will be different. But it's an unfortunate truth that when it comes to facilities that sell necessities, they're able and willing to charge the absolute biggest bucks.

[@bobdylan1968]

@@ellis7622 yeah, therapists and counselors do the same thing. Was a nightmare finding one for me as a kid.

[@Fionacle]

DUDE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I WAS OBSESSED WITH LAUGHING JACK’S ORIGIN STORY AND I HAD A CRUSH ON HIM, SEEING HIM MENTIONED AS SOMEONE WHO INFLUENCED AN ACTUAL MURDER GAVE ME SUCH WHIPLASH

[@kngxn7437]

Frfr most of the famous creepypastas has had some kind of case related to them. It's absolutely crazy tbh

[@michealhardgraves2860]

bro you had a crush on him wtf what was the appeal i dont get it?!

[@SakuraAsranArt]

While getting messages from a deceased loved one on social media is creepy as hell, the reality is that if a dead person is messaging you, it's probably a Nigerian scammer and you should not respond to them.

[@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic]

Ummmm... definitely not.

[@Crawfishness]

If you know what you're doing you can respond to them and maybe waste their time.

[@adderae]

Whole thing was sort of believable in that essence, I was thinking it was scammer accidentally making a cryptic mistake, up until the picture of his room 😭 that sort of derailed any illusion of realism. but it’s a clever idea for a horror story.

[@RandomDrawer_tm]

*Me responding anyway and scamming the scammer*

[@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic]

@@RandomDrawer_tm Thats how you do it!!

[@666mojo999]

Morgan & Morgan needs to put you on a Billboard. That was great.

[@warbossgegguz679]

As someone into mental health (and with my own issues) I always feel kind of upset for how Morgan is portrayed by both the media and the court system. The fact her schizophrenia manifested as early as late childhood (when it normally doesn't manifest until late teens or early 20s) is an indicator that it was EXTREMELY severe, but rather than look into any of her odd behaviors or delusions school officials and her parents just labeled her as awkward and a troublemaker (which admittedly strikes a very personal chord with me based on my own experience being similar). I also think the fact Anissa was let off on the basis of Morgan's testimony being discounted as coming from "an insane girl" in court is pretty sick. If you watch the actual interrogation footage it's noticeable how little Morgan shows any real signs of self-preservation or attempts to avoid self-incrimination, but on the SOLE GROUNDS that Anissa was the "sane" one, any contradictions were written off as delusions or deflections. Meanwhile Anissa's testimony from second one seems to be deflecting blame onto Morgan. Overall it's a situation that gets turned into this sensationalized horror story about "2 psycho girls that tried to kill their friend over slenderman!!!1!" when in reality it's just really really sad to me. None of this should've happened, but nobody gave a shit about Morgan except Payton and because of that she was nearly killed for it... And according to the courts Anissa was just there and dindu nuffin I guess.

[@RedSpade37]

Yeah, it's heart-breaking, all around. I think about this case a lot.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@RedSpade37 It just really bothers me how so many "horror" and "true crime" youtubers and viewers paint this situation and similar cases like Vincent Weiguang Li where the they portray Morgan and other schizophrenics as "murderous timebombs!", "freaks!", and "constant dangers to society beyond rehabilitation!" when that's a gross misrepresentation of mental illness. People are happy to change the perception of mental health when it comes to anxiety or depression, but when it's something that makes them "too uncomfortable" we revert back to acting like children about it. A mentality that ironically typically LEADS to those kinds of situations. Because nobody wants to have themselves or their children labeled as "nuts". Watching how content creators cover the situation and the audiences reinforcing that sort of perspective always makes me really depressed. Note: I'm not schizophrenic, but I do have depression, epilepsy, dyslexia, and ADD, and my school gave my issues the same kind of treatment (ie I wasn't acting out because of issues, it was because I was a "troublemaker", etc.) so hearing that kind of stuff about Morgan's past kind of hits home for me. I'm by no means justifying what happened. If anything I'm saying I wish a girl didn't have to suffer such an incomparably traumatic and life threatening experience just for her issues to finally get addressed. The fact she tried to kill her best friend since childhood because she was detached from reality is beyond sad, and like most people who do similar things during a psychotic break, I'm sure she's not proud of it. But people like to make her out like she's Patrick Bateman or something.

[@ald7282]

right? she was clearly a VERY ill child and it wasn't taken seriously until something terrible happened. i had a psychotic break as a teenager, and while i didn't hurt anyone, i was trying and trying to tell people what i was seeing and hearing (dead pets, banging on the walls, shadow people, voices yelling in my ears) and how scared i was. i didn't get properly treated until i crashed my car into a ditch and the cops found me 3 miles away scared out of my mind.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@ald7282 Looking through the comments on videos about this always depresses the hell out of me, because it's always full of people making her out like she's an inhuman killing machine monster, ignoring Anissa, and then going on tirades about "muh internet addiction". Ironically, if you're looking for a lack of empathy the "sane" people looking in on the situation are a great place to start.

[@Seinsmelled]

stab stab stab

[@spitfire7947]

currently in my creepypasta hyperfixation and watching this. Jesus, i was never this bad, even if i'm obsessed with Ticci toby. i hope these people are ok.

[@72horses75]

After watching the whole police interrogation, Morgan was shown in the interviews to not know what was going on, and it was quite clear that the likely case was that Anyssa has some form of condition and completely manipulative, pushing oonto morgan her beliefs and coersing her by using her schizophrenia. People who are schizophrenic are easily manipulated especially when their paranoia is fed into, or someone feeds a new paranoia into them.

[@letterlily]

I feel like I wouldn't want footage of police finding me chained in a storage unit being shared around the internet.

[@bluchismoon]

Yeah, that did feel pretty invasive.

[@letterlily]

@@bluchismoon at first i was bothered there was no trigger warning but it just seemed fucked up to include it in the first place. love ur vids wavy but this was so wrong.

[@Crawfishness]

I'm hoping the footage was released with her consent in the first place.

[@letterlily]

@@Crawfishness ugh that’s so upsetting.

[@truerandomchannel]

i would

[@spookieboogi6161]

Mental illness needs to be taken seriously this is proof of it for crying out loud if your kids hearing voices time to go to the doctor

[@MillyOfTheValley]

the first slenderman stabbings story really put it into perspective in my mind how they had just seemed like your average kids you'd see in class when i first heard of it, how seemingly normal people, even children could be potentially dangerous

[@ScrimmyBingus42]

Stories like these used to make me really nervous about sharing my interests as a young teen. I was into the creepypasta scene in middle school, as were my friends. I became interested in things like SCP and unfiction. But i was always seen as the weird kid, no doubt im sure some of my peers were suspicious about me, deapite me never having violent thoughts or urges towards anyone but myself. I was treated by school officials as a genuinely dangerous person at one point, and was suspended because of it. They even were calling for a psychological evaluation of me, my parents having to intervene so the school resource officer wouldn't search my stuff. Im still very deeply interested in horror media, and I've used it as an effective tool to cope with some childhood trauma and ongoing mental health issues, and as ive gotten older im more comfortable sharing this darker interest. I guess the moral of the story is don't alienate people because they seem weird or scary, at the end of the day they're still people, dealing with just as complex issues as you are.

[@lazyrmc]

The slenderman one is just a huge tragedy. I feel like there were many warning signs for both of the girls and their mental illnesses fed into each other. A dangerous combination that might have been preventable, but still disturbing in how it turned out

[@Phoebe5448]

Iirc the dad was also diagnosed with schizophrenia, and as she had an onset at such an early age, could it also be genetic? I've heard having a parent with certain mental illnesses such as depression causes a higher chance in their children. Really sad either way.

[@Kayla-eh5fb]

​@@Phoebe5448it probably is genetic. Usually a psychologist will ask if any of their family members suffered from any mental illness as its more likely that they develop it.

[@PattyMarshall-l8v]

Kids with mental problems often find each other.

[@rusi6219]

​@@PattyMarshall-l8vwell they have no other choice if their peers bully them and the supposed "adults" enable the bullying

[@6b6ris6]

i used to think that slenderman would appear in my living room if i sat there with the lights off for too long.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

Have you learned to tie your shoes & cross the street since then?

[@6b6ris6]

@@ClickClack_Bam unfortunately not. still terminal.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

@@6b6ris6 Call Morgan & Morgan & ask if someone owes you compensation for this injustice.

[@xoxojessica_]

@@ClickClack_Bam💀

[@cellanimation]

I once got into bed and then saw a big three headed shadowy creature which resembled slenderman standing by my door, staring at me. It eventually sortof slunk under the door as a shadow. Anyway my point is, you're right. Slendy was waiting for you

[@banana_1_]

dude you're like my favorite youtuber now, objective and informative, no bias and just entertaining

[@Civoe]

My step dad had something like the Facebook one happen to him as well. His friend from Maine who had been dead for about 3 or 4 years had messaged him from the dead friends Facebook account and my step dad responded "You do know he's dead right? " and then the person stopped responding, leaving him on read. People are so sick

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

Why? maybe it was the ghost?

[@Civoe]

@@SeanHartnett-t8c that, or my step dad believes someone had hacked his friends Facebook not realizing he had passed away, but I'm always down to think it was paranormal!

[@rusi6219]

Lmao imagine being the scammer on the other end 😂😂😂😂

[@Civoe]

@@rusi6219 if I was him I woulda shit a brick 💀

[@wolfhawk1999]

Imagine after all of that seeing the door open and a team of rescuers coming in to save you. It must feel surreal

[@SquishyTheVampire]

JT needed serious help and the people who were supposed to help her failed.

[@SedriqMiers]

These kids lacked direction and responsible adults taking an interest in their childs lives. Dont get lost i recommend How To Change Your Life By Journaling In 2024 (Ask These 3 Questions) | Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

[@Poptomist]

I feel really bad for the people that had to live with the fact that their stories have directly caused the end of another’s life

[@Beavisofficial]

I think it's cool tbh

[@bigotis9042]

​@@Beavisofficialbro what 💀

[@Poptomist]

@@Beavisofficial what??????

[@Beavisofficial]

@@Poptomist I got hacked bro 😰

[@4thScrivener]

​@@Beavisofficialit's more believable that Superman commits a crime out of impulse, Just own it dood, you made a bad wording/take

[@emo1ife]

I remember being a creepypasta kid back on the internet since ya know unsupervised internet access on my tablet at the time (along with other weird/not made for kids hyperfixation’s that a 8 year old me shouldn’t had been into 💀) so when the slenderman killers blew up all over the news and whatever I didn’t know what to think at the time really. But I’m glad the victim ended up surviving still a wild story that feels like a fever dream

[@Truimens]

when a stab wound is called "not a serious injury" relative to another victim you know it was bad

[@Drakestorm87]

This is why people like Dr. Sherman from the KZbin channel site-42 and the SCP fandom always stress that what we’re doing isn’t real but role-play. Because we don’t want stuff like this happening. I’m all for showing kids horror, but you still gotta be careful on what you show them. Never downplay a child’s fear.

[@gotenblack2542]

is really great to see the girl was able to live even after all that pain she must have gone though this is why taking fandoms to far is a bad thing

[@warbossgegguz679]

I mean, most people aren't undiagnosed schizophrenics or borderline sociopaths, but I get you. Ultimately I feel terrible for Payton getting to suffer through that just because she befriended the loner girl... But I also can't pretend I don't feel bad for Morgan. She showed signs of schizophrenia going back to early childhood, but got labeled an awkward troublemaker by school officials and parents rather than getting the help she needed. Just really sad all around. I also still hold to the belief hat Anissa was much less of a bystander than she claimed, based on their peers', parents', and school staff's description of their "friendship". But when the person testifying against you is legally insane, it's easy to get the courts to write off any counterevidence as just delusions and hearsay.

[@vacuumblink2300]

Don’t you think this goes far beyond “taking fandoms too far?”

[@AnniePannanie]

Definitely it is more than a fandom taken to far. I mean, all involved children/Teens were obviously mentally ill

[@TheProfessorTex]

The case with the two young girls trying to sacrifice their 'friend' to Slenderman still gets me. Especially now that I'm binging on almost exclusively body cam and JCS type content here on youtube. I don't usually say stuff like this, but maybe Morgan's parents should've sought some more help for her especially if her father was a known schizophrenic. I watched their whole interrogation....Props again to that female detective. I remember a lot of people expressing their concern that Morgan's friend was well aware of her diminished capacity for empathy, and that she should've been a better voice of reason; however I'm still leaning towards the idea that peer pressure played a significant part in the crime here, and that it's more than possible both girls stowed their fear and doubts about committing the heinous act because neither one of them wanted to seem like the scared one if that makes sense.

[@Slurpgerk]

My advice to you is to honestly stay away from True Crime stuff as much as possible. Exposure to that kind of media for too long will leave you a very apathetic person.

[@TheProfessorTex]

@@Slurpgerk I appreciate the advice man, but tbh I'm a military vet. that came home and worked for my state. I've been around. If we're supposed to actually be that (democracy described in the constitution) then more people need to quit hiding behind the judicial branch, and law enforcement in general when it comes to tough calls... /mic idek..

[@Slurpgerk]

@@TheProfessorTex I'm sorry that you saw whatever you saw

[@ShenDoodles]

@@Slurpgerk What Tex is saying seems like the opposite of apathy to me. He's assessing the situation realistically, understanding that the world isn't black and white.

[@Slurpgerk]

@@ShenDoodles I'm saying that overexposure to media like true crime desensitizes you to violence. Are you noticing that barely anybody is talking about the Maine shooting? Everybody forgot about it in like a day.

[@piratebear3126]

One of my coworkers was actually a teacher at the school where the Slenderman girls went. I am glad that the girls got the help they need rather than just throwing away the key on them. There’s no reason they can’t be helped at that age.

[@bluchismoon]

There is one reason, but I don't think they can't develop empathy, so it doesn't apply here.

[@souleater4242564kodd]

Debatable

[@Synflood-dot-txt]

Or they reject the help ?

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@Synflood-dot-txt No. Morgan had multiple instances of very clearly having some sort of mental illness that the school and systems in place did jack shit about: An instance where she literally had to be held down by school staff because she was crying, screaming, and lashing out in the office that they were gonna kill her; she brought a rubber mallet to school for "protection" and was suspended; she would play with HER OWN BLOOD in the bathroom and hidden away at recess; she straight up said she would hear voices in her head... the list goes on. But instead of intervene, the school literally just labeled her a problem child and awkward, and dismissed the parents' concerns. Yeah, most of the time she just seemed like a normal but awkward little girl, but these accounts are ABSURD to ignore. Not blaming OPs coworker or anything, but the administration of their school MASSIVELY fucked up. Though based on my own experience with public schools and mental and learning disabilities, it's far from uncommon.

[@elikenny1075]

I hadn’t heard the whole of the first slenderman story, but I was incredibly relieved to hear that the victim had made it out alive.

[@BoxOKittens]

I was a 90s kid and it's wild to look back and remember the things we believed in. I remember being convinced that the candyman was real and other things. Thankfully none of it ever turned violent.

[@arkansawasmr]

Perfect timing! I was just looking for something to watch while I’m sick at home today 😭Thank you, Wavy! 💕

[@nostalgicumbry3279]

A friend of mine actually had a house shown to her by Todd a bit before he was caught. She was (understandably) a mess on facebook when she realized the situation and what could have happened to her.

[@marleyfehr9324]

in the Kohlhepp case, the bodycam footage in it's entirety is heartbreaking. Kala starts reciting this litany of everything that happened and you can tell she had been rehearsing it for weeks.

[@dogoinc8074]

these stories about creepy pastas could be their own creepy pastas

[@fionameany5077]

If only someone listened to JT when she talked about hearing voices. She could've gotten the help she needed.

[@SedriqMiers]

errrr hello mcfly....... her daddy had a history of schizophrenia so he was probably in his own world or on meds. This is when you need relatives or friends to notice the signs but i guess no one did, nvm back into your social media virtual reality world.

[@Cupcake123Cupcakke]

What if a demonic entity?

[@rusi6219]

​​@@Cupcake123Cupcakkeprobably was but people in the west are not ready to be told the truth about their so-called "mental health crisis"

[@gloomiiii]

I feel so bad for Peyton, it’s a miracle how she’s still alive. Edit: Holy shit thanks for the likes-

[@cryofigment4949]

Slenderman didn't want her stank ass soul, lol

[@warbossgegguz679]

According to the surgeons that took care of her, she was a matter of MILLIMETERS from near instant death. Thankfully, the situation was made at least a LITTLE BIT less tragic in that regard.

[@astroknott5263]

This isn’t Reddit

[@Hate-e30]

Idk how old is she nowadays?

[@yuritheperson]

month late and unrelated, but i love your profile picture :D

[@takeshiyamamoto3473]

... i'm gonna be honest. if i ever carried a child for 9 months, gave birth, and raised them for thirteen years... and they turned around and tried to kill me... i don't know if i'll ever be able to look at that child with the same love as before.

[@Yesthatsmyfirstname]

The ex gf one freaks me out a bit because I had someone do this. A mutual friend un-alived herself and the "friend" who introduced me to her either had access to, or gained access after the fact, and messaged people, myself included, from our dead friends account. It was so sick. I hadn't thought about that in ages, still upsets me.

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

Isn’t that the plot of a horror film?

[@Yesthatsmyfirstname]

@@SeanHartnett-t8c if it's not it sounds like it could be. Sadly this was done in real life though. Don't know what was going through this chicks head.

[@chrise8275]

The creepiest pasta I ever saw was some dude putting ranch on their baked zitti.

[@Isabellacarrillo22]

i live in the town where the slender man stabbing happened. bella recently graduated and she is doing really well❤❤ we are all super proud of her and the progress she’s made.

[@ma-0xff0000]

Would love to an episode covering all the origins of creepypasta images since a long time has passed and people made it their hobby to uncover them the photoshopped images

[@RadikAlice]

I forgot all about Laughing Jack, that was a _serious_ throwback. It really surprised me how recent the case was, thought he was ancient history. God, I remember the Kohlhepp situation, it was wild. Slenderman stabbing one infuriates me, because Anisa got a considerably lesser sentence because they seemed "sane" despite being a manipulator, stigmatization of mental illness 101. Morgan deserved better

[@whispywhiteboy8598]

As a waukesha native i burst out laughing when i heard you pronounce it. Nobody ever gets it right i do admire the attempt though love your videos man keep up the good work

[@shlumhum4912]

Wa-keh-shaw

[@Fogblitz]

Lmao same it hit me out of left field hearing this mispronunciation

[@illumizoldyck6488]

Me who lives in Wisconsin also his saying it I also burst out laughing I loved the way he said it

[@sageisnotaplant99]

I’m glad I’m the type of schizophrenic who wrote weird songs and poetry as a tween and not the type of schizophrenic who stabbed people because of slenderman as a tween

[@Davidledonkayy]

i dont know what i am i have paranoia in my opinion its way worse than actually having something my iteration is: the fear, that something will happen, i have a fear of events or consequence all of my other fears stem from this im afraid of the feeling of my stomach dropping so i hate rollar coasters. im afraid of someone watching me when i cant see them i even halucinate them staring at me through my nonexistent perrephial vision oh. yes. i dont have perrephial vision. yet i see things out of the corner of my eye.

[@jan-Pala]

​@@Davidledonkayythat sounds like it might be an anxiety disorder to me but i am nowhere close to a professional, you should try to get an appointment with a therapist if you haven't already

[@Davidledonkayy]

@@jan-Pala paranoia SUCKS ;/ like ever stared at fhe ceiling for FOUR HOURS bc u feel like if u close ur eyes the evil monster demon will eat ur face?

[@jan-Pala]

@@Davidledonkayy i have anxiety myself (diagnosed at 7, on meds) and i get where you're coming from; i often hide under my blankets or run to the light switch at night because i feel like there's something there, and i can't look at mirrors in the dark because i feel like the reflection isn't me when it's dark :P

[@CallSign_Tweek]

Parents need to check in on what their kids are looking at online. If your child is reading up onto something that isn't real, hearing voices and is distressed by things that aren't real. Take them to see someone and get professional help. Schizophrenia is a very scary mental illness and I heard many stories of how the persons delusions made them do terrible acts.

[@nekoprankster2184]

I've heard the first Slenderman story multiple times before, but I never knew that bit about the SkyDoesMinecraft mod showcase. I remember watching those - there were a few Creepypastas that I only first learned about through the video. There was one that specifically terrified me after that one, I think it was something like the Seed Eater or the Seed Man or something like that? Something to do with "Seed" in the name. Anyway, that just stuck out to me as crazy. I know the story already invokes to some that feeling of "something from my childhood being linked to something so horrific", but that detail made it all the more intimate and specific to me. The fact that Sky later on got into a whole trove of trouble on his own just added another layer to the "damn this just feels so surreal" moment I just had.

[@ProfessorPolymer]

It took a bit, but I remembered watching a video about the "Amazon Review Killer" (the /NoSleep story) and the interrogation following his arrest. He actually bragged to the police about shooting the four people in the bike shop! That was its own form of internet horror, especially with his creepy Amazon reviews that hinted towards it being used to commit crimes.

[@UmbraBorealis]

That girl not showing emotions at Bambi's mom dying made me laugh because I don't have a criminal record, I just didn't grasp the concept of death for the longest time as a kid and thought 'oh she's just gone :) She'll be back :)' and went on with my life. Kids are weird, don't judge too quickly lmao.

[@Davidledonkayy]

HAH i grasped reality way too fast. waaaaay too fast. i was hyper aware of everything since preschool i could read perfectly recite with perfection i was fearless but now i am a sniveling, sobbing husk of what i was before overtaken by my mental issues. i dont want to ask for help yet i need it yet the people that help me frustrate me SO MUCH.

[@christywakeen229]

I was a teenager when I discovered Creepypasta so that is probably a small part of why I was never dilustional enough to think that the creepypastas I were into were real.

[@Reallylikesclowns]

As a 12 year old who quite enjoys the creepypasta fandom, with my favorite being Laughing Jack, I am horrified that children my age were convinced that these fictional horror stories led them to do the crimes that they did. I send my condolences to those victims of their own children, friends, ect. ect. ❤️❤️

[@incarnateflame3462]

please be careful and dont talk to people who arent within a couple of grades of you ok? there are groomers and other people that would just as soon hurt u as they would thank you for your fandom.

[@Seinsmelled]

bros so young

[@mosshivenetwork117]

​@@incarnateflame3462how motherly lol

[@lordnazar6382]

@@mosshivenetwork117 Always good to make sure kids are staying safe.

[@KomaedasOneTrueHope]

She has DID shares her body with another person

[@linkerman400]

as a person who has lived in FL for all my life and seen morgan and morgan comercials on tv all my life.. i had to use them when i got hit by a car walking .they only got me 7 grand and i still owe medical bills from it .they took 5 of my 7 grand i guess the natural 33% .my lawyer basicly said that we couldn't get any more money. even though the ticket i got from the cop was thrown out and that judge who through out my ticket said to the guy he had better have witnesses cause he is fucked if i sued. MORGAN AND MORGAN SUCK DON'T USE THEM.

[@poopookaka2831]

Thanks for the truth man. People are so blind these days that its almost sickening. I wish you the best man

[@bravomyylife]

As someone who grew up in Wisconsin, I just wanted to let you know Waukesha is pronounced Wa-kah-shaw. It's one of many Native American named areas in the state 😊

[@tannerjohnson6327]

I cringed at “Wah-koh-shah” I can understand Wa-keesh-ah but my goodness 😂

[@bravomyylife]

@@tannerjohnson6327 one of my favorite past times is making my hubs try to randomly pronounce Wisconsin city names cause he grew up in the PNW. He's horrible at it and it's hilarious lol

[@poramentatoes]

Was looking for this comment. I couldn't even tell which city he was referencing from his pronunciation until a screenshot of a news article came up. No hate, but that's the real creepypasta of this video.

[@SniperCyanide]

@@bravomyylife Some of my favorites to get people to try to pronounce are Ashwaubenon, Oconomowoc, Iola, Shawano, Wayauwega, and Waunakee. I mean... they're pronounced exactly like how they're spelled, people! ;)

[@Mspicey]

I live in Wisconsin and I was like “wow I have never heard of Wakoshaw”😮

[@bloom9075]

you are CRIMINALLY underrated man i love your videos

[@tnctbone]

Is he? He's got a million subs and almost a mil on every video

[@bloom9075]

@@tnctbone that’s not much nowadays

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

17:40 sometimes murderers who obtain their victims' login information (e.g. one of a victim's devices having them stored and not requiring authentication to use the device) will keep posting from the victims' social media accounts to pretend the victim is still alive to obscure the time of death, lure in more victims, possibly get money from people the victims knew, etc..

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

yep.

[@Bread-oh3xw]

the wisconsin case happened near my hometown. it was detrimental to the community. talk about creepypastas was banned from schools, friends and classmates not allowed to have sleepovers whatsoever, new curfews, etc. i was just starting to get into the stories myself, and being around the same age as the people involved didn’t help.

[@Bread-nx9fo]

Imagine hanging out with your so called "friends" only for them to stab you. I'm glad Peyton survived that nightmare.

[@KingKrouch]

I remember when I was in middle school, working on a KZbin channel with a few friends, and one of my videos playing modded GTA San Andreas with Slenderman and I made a joke about the Slenderman girl murderers (because I found it absurd) and my friend didn't release the video because it was in poor taste. Whenever I hear about that case it brings me back.

[@pc881]

Wavy, you are easily one of the BEST content creators on this platform, always a highlight of the week when you upload

[@souleater4242564kodd]

Except when he gets information wrong and misrepresents the girls in the Slenderman stabbing as being 1 sided when they were both as egregiously responsible and reprehensible for their crime

[@Forrest-s9s]

John Morgan from Morgan and Morgan was a notorious drunk driver in the neighborhood I grew up at. Dude wrecked the gates into the community 3 times while I was there

[@TVForFree7063]

Peyton is a badass. Stabbed 19 times and still determined to live, dragging herself out of the woods. I’m so glad she lived

[@wht-rabt-obj]

I can't even imagine the nightmares poor Kayla still has about that piece of shite, Tod.

[@HatKidTime]

Nah but how did Slender Man tell those girls to do that? Bro has no mouth

[@Engel-07]

Schizophrenia is one hell of a thing ig

[@supersardonic1179]

@@Engel-07 Slenderman is schizophrenic? What a misunderstood soul

[@pentagrin4157]

The girl had schizoprhrenia. If people actually took mental illness seriously instead of letting it go and getting worse and mocking people for being smptomatic until they pull stuff like this-

[@warbossgegguz679]

I hate that this made me laugh.

[@matthewgarner7215]

Telepathy

[@ChargerPlays]

I was always a fan of creepypasta (still am) and i knew that these crimes would be the downfall, i always wanted to write a story but was always scared somebody would turn my story into a real life crime, either that or it would become a sonic.exe and crash to the ground and burn, i always looked up to the popular stories like the ones in this video, but if i could do anything to bring back the popularity of creepypasta's, i would, and make sure these stories wont happen with anybody's stories and tarnish their names

[@bluchismoon]

There's no way you'd be able to prevent people from doing something like that from happening with the stories, though.

[@ChargerPlays]

If i could, i would@@bluchismoon

[@souleater4242564kodd]

Don't let the fear and threat of the mentally unwell curb your artistic talents

[@bonnietelocole6777]

Fellow creepypasta fan here, just make and post your art. You can't control what other people do with what you make, so it's best to not hold yourself back. I want to see this fandom thrive, even if it's a lot smaller than it used to be.

[@christywakeen229]

If you create a story, and someone took that story and went and committed a crime, it wouldn't be your fault. You were using your artistic expression and that shouldn't be tainted by some nit-wit who doesn't know right from wrong, or the basic concept of creativity and fiction.

[@ScottyPimpinATL]

A 7 year old girl told me that she had thoughts of jumping out a window from a video on KZbin. She said it was a hypnosis vid. Her dad didn't even understand why I was so upset about him thinking it wasn't a good idea to just give your child a KZbin babysitter. Dude has since lost custody of both his children so I can say there is some good from that story. This was only a year ago but has stuck with me knowing our children played together a few times. Im not that parent who just lets his child run willie nilly with other children until he is mature enough to make rational decisions. He told me that girl was weird anyway 👏👏👏🫶

[@SaalatOffical]

If that is true that shits fucked up. Imagine being at such a young and having dangerous thoughts like that. The internets crazy.

[@bluchismoon]

​@@SaalatOfficalYeah, and parents who let their kids have unsupervised access to it are crazier. The things I have found as an adult on here after growing up with no Internet access are honestly not great. That's why so many people are growing up desensitized and lacking empathy.

[@stardusst]

unfortunately since these cases have come out, the internet has become even more accessible to children. it's bizarre to see how parents went from "don't tell strangers on the internet your real name and location" to giving complete unsuperviced access to mere six year olds.

[@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736]

Is his children in the foster care system?

[@ultimatewitcherfan6677]

If you notice that your child is showing signs of mental illness (talking to themselves, hearing voices, seeing things that aren’t there, etc), get them evaluated by a psychologist and don’t allow them free reign online. If your child has been officially diagnosed with a mental illness, it’s even more important to limit their online access. The first case should be a lesson to parents with a child showing symptoms of mental illness: DO NOT IGNORE THE SYMPTOMS!!! The poor girl in this case killed her stepmother because her father kept ignoring her symptoms until it was too late and the girl had a mental breakdown which resulted in the death of the stepmother. Children under 18 should not be allowed to read creepypastas, imo.

[@MageLexYT]

laughing jack was one of my favorite creepypasta, did bunch of fanarts of him. but i think i also related to this character, jack was once a colorful rainbow clown that got forgotten by his owner, leaving him alone in his box for years until his colors faded to a monochromatic palette. and at the time i felt alone and was in my early depression stage

[@mathieuleader8601]

love the spooky clown mask in the background for Halloween vibes in this episode sets the mood nicely

[@delusi0n]

That family in the first story failed so hard to get that child psychiatric help.

[@SMCwasTaken]

I think they did I feel so bad for the Dad having to deal with that evil gremlin

[@GreenRasqberries]

⁠@@SMCwasTakenthey clearly didn’t. She’s been saying she was hearing voices and they never thought to take her to a psychiatrist

[@md-fi7zt]

​@@SMCwasTakenok well i think the fire was started by jfk

[@itsasquid]

@@GreenRasqberries I don't know their circumstances but it could also be that they couldn't afford it. Healthcare in the US fucking sucks and if you're not well off enough to have insurance or to front the bill, you're fucked.

[@GreenRasqberries]

@@itsasquid that too, which is terrible. If that’s the case then I don’t blame the parents at all

[@Alej0731]

Grab the popcorn, new episode of wavywebsurf is on ❤

[@TheDerpyBoi]

I’m having mints but ok

[@teknomax7883]

I'm terribly sad for those kids in the Slenderman stabbing, both the victim and the killer. At that age I'm looking directly at their parents that didn't treat them properly and with enough love. These things will keep on happening until we realize that as a society we are failing these people,ñ. To aid them before they break apart and do damage to others.

[@Yaboigallade]

your voice is somewhat calming, you're the only reason i can bare these stories.

[@ieattrash1149]

Ok, so the slenderman crime story scared me as a kid. But, as a kid, i still thought creepypastas were real. So when i saw a documentary about it, i was insisted that it was, in fact, real. Took mw a while to realize that no, slenderman isn't real, and he didn’t tell some psycho middle schoolers to stab their friend. I really do hope that girl is doing good now

[@S1ayer585.]

The girl is still doing good

[@ieattrash1149]

@@S1ayer585. that's good!

[@Chillikilli]

Average medic main

[@JaggedBird]

Im glad Payton and the mother in the second Slenderman story made it. None of the victims of these monsters (the killers not the stories) deserved what happened, but I'm glad someone pulled through

[@warbossgegguz679]

I hesitate to call Morgan a monster given she was EXTREMELY mentally ill and nobody intervened until it was way to late (and also the entire internet and media already dogpiled her in spite of this)... but the rest, yeah.

[@Chordata7]

​@@warbossgegguz679morgan is a monster mental illness should never be an excuse for attempted murder.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@Chordata7 I never said what she did was ok, I said she was both legally and psychologically not in control of her actions. If a Nam vet or someone else with PTSD had a flashback and nearly killed someone, would you have the same tone? Because from both a clinical and legal stance it's a similar situation. You can condemn her actions without making it a character judgement. Why is this so hard to comprehend beyond willful ignorance of both the legal system and mental health? Also, HER psych issue can be fixed with meds and therapy while Anissa literally walked with almost no corrective action. And if you buy her bullshit "I was being dragged into this" story, you clearly haven't read anything about this case beyond Tubers and mainstream media.

[@Chordata7]

@@warbossgegguz679 "im paraphrasing your question for me. "would a nam vet or someone else with ptsd did something similar would i judge them rhe same way.?" Yes yes i fucking would. Mental illness shouldn't be a literal get out of jail free card for attempted murder.

[@Chordata7]

Also you're pressuming i dont think annisa is also a monster? Nah both of em suck and shouldve gone to prison. Kids or not they knew they were going to kill someone. They had a plan, they made an attempt and permanent traumatized a peer for a stupid monster on the internet. Fuck both of em.

[@Daemonkill22]

So I'm just starting the Slenderman stabbing part now, and a lot of the focus seems to be on Morgan. It was likely the other girl who masterminded the plan, Morgan's mental illness and instability was the reason she just went along with it, she didn't even seem to know much about Slenderman. The other girl seemed to be the one obsessed with him.

[@SeanHartnett-t8c]

Wasn’t ir an episode od law and order SVU as well.

[@HauntedBogWater]

Im convinced that parents who doesnt care for their children's mental health are just narcissists who doesnt want to believe something can be "wrong" with their children