Horror Themed 5e Cleric & Paladin Subclasses! | Grim Hollow | Dark Fantasy

[@GreyGramarye]

I like the Oath of Pestilence as an enforcer of humility and equality. Pestilence reaps noble and commoner alike.

[@noahmehringer29]

You could also be a Fey-Transformation based Pestilence Paladin, marking the change of bountiful summer, to biting cold of winter.

[@Robert-cl2ft]

Praise Grand Father Nurgle

[@predx13]

Mask of the Red Death.

[@GreyGramarye]

@@predx13 Yes, precisely. Thanks for articulating the reference actually, because it perfectly gets at what I was trying to say and for some reason it hadn't come to my mind.

[@DewayneMcClure-bm2pj]

Could also be an edgy antihero by having them being an avenging angel of death who unleashes pestilence upon the wicked and oppressive IE the 12 plagues of Egypt.

[@harrison3207]

'Would you worship such a God?' 'It'd be pretty dangerous not to'

[@infernodelta70]

Alternative answers to the question: “It was the only one that answered me.”

[@Joseph-ky3os]

I used inspiration from the Oath of Pestilence to explore the idea of prayer not for direct aid but for the mercy of being passed over and spared. The Paladins are those who take it upon themselves to inflict the inevitable plague on those outside of their community. Better them than us.

[@jordan321able]

Yes! Been running Grim Hollow for several weeks and the players love its gritty, challenging and Dark themes. I have an: Eldritch Cleric Fractured Barbarian Monster Hunter(which recently in his xenophobic hunting looked an Eldritch Being In the eyes.) A soman Vampire(rogue, Barbarian) A Plagur Doctor Wizard And more. Love it all.

[@theimperviousfirecracker7934]

You know the Eldritch Domain is such an amazing addition when you remember Warlocks also have a subclass where their patron is a celestial. It's like a total role-swap for those two classes.

[@emmawrites4533]

Ah yes, the oath of Nurgle

[@noahmehringer29]

If you play an Ogresh,, abberant-horror Oath of Pestilence you'd basically be Typhus of the Death guard from 40K. Take a few levels in Warlock and even more so.

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

​@@noahmehringer29😮....🤔....🫨 by the Emperor, you're right!

[@noahmehringer29]

I can imagine an Oath of Zeal Paladin with the Werewolf Transformation as being a Downcast of Maligant whose embraced his rage against the Cult of Tormach.

[@DrAndrewJBlack]

Some super interesting studf

[@tomisabum]

Good stuff. Absoluting bringing some of these subclasses as options or even as NPCs to other 5e settings as well. I've got a particularly tragic twist waiting for a few friends in Exandria, I think, given how curious they've been about the Wound of Ioun...perhaps some former follower of her knows about it. Knows far, far too much than they themselves wish about it. Eldritch option is too good to pass up.

[@tysondennis1016]

Sounds very cool. Currently working on a homebrew project as a tie-in for a comic I'm writing for my cousin. It includes some of the worst classes and subclasses getting buffed, and some brand new subclasses.

[@yuen4817]

I need these classes on dbd beyond

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

I like Pestilence paladin and Inquisition cleric a lot!

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

Realistically, any big church in a grimdark setting would end up looking like the Church of Avacyn in Innistrad. When the three neighboring nations are run by vampires and the dark forest nation is populated by nothing but werewolves, the lone human nation in the middle of the map is going to gravitate towards worshiping any other worldly being that hunts and kill the monsters that eat/infect humans. Though the church itself is strongly themed to favor Inquisition clerics and zeal paladins, the zeal paladin is more of a reflection of what the church and Avacyn became right before her death. With all Avacyn's fellow angels infected by the madness and tentacles of the elder god Emrakul.

[@tea-sus8722]

Does the inquisition domain not get a channel divinity?

[@GhostfireGaming]

Yes! In the time I have it's hard to mention every subclass feature, but the Inquisition Domain's channel divinity is pretty cool. As a bonus action you provide a shield of temporary hit points to either yourself or an ally within 30ft. While having the temp hit points, a creature has resistance to damage from spells and advantage on saving throws against spells.

[@weazywanderer7552]

I'd be so down to use this for my setting. But also wanting to release said setting feels a bit copyright levels bad

[@lynndragon2536]

My group had an argument about the entropy wether by turn it meant every player’s turn or the round of turns, we went round but the book does say turn

[@TheEndKing]

"Because the deities they worship must exist somewhere in your setting. Right?" ...Must they? Is that a requirement? It could be interesting to have a paladin or cleric who is just dead freaking wrong about how their 'abilities' work.

[@origamiknife7556]

In Gygaxian D&D? Yes. The fact that the gods are real and active in the world is a core element of the OG D&D experience. That being said, it's your game do what you want.

[@GhostfireGaming]

I actually agree with you, which is why I left it a little uncertain at the end of that paragraph. 😄 While beyond the scope of the discussion of this video, it's very interesting to me where Paladins or Clerics draw their divine magic from. Are they blessed by a deity like a prophet? Is it sheer belief in themselves? Do they believe they're worshipping one deity when in fact it's another? Are the cosmic forces of good or evil simply bending to this persons will, like a gravity well? The question is intriguing, and the answer probably unique to every D&D game. But I like to keep it vague, with an acknowledgement that the power must be getting drawn from somewhere.

[@noahmehringer29]

the Dungeon Dudes Drakenheim setting kinda take this into perspective where there are no definitive Gods as being confirmed. They're just legends. Paladins and Clerics recieve their magic through sheer force of faith and Zealotry.

[@LupineShadowOmega]

In 5e, no. Paladins gain power from their oath and Clerics can also be the cleric of a concept or idea. Nothing says that you aren't just a crazy person that is magic through faith exclusively.

[@epigreviews5405]

I love this line of thinking. Not all clerics draw their power in the same way. Some from sheer faith others from serving the divine as their holy/unholy champions. Also along with that idea I reckon the cleric class is a better representation of a cultists than a warlock depending on the flavor. A deal with the devil could be made out of necessity rather than power and greed but faith and worship of the dark arts is just plain blasphemy.

[@alisterkold]

Are you guys going to put your sub classes on d&d beyond

[@sambro6657]

When are we getting the final version of the monster hunter? No rush just excited

[@chthonicnoise860]

Why weren’t any of the subclasses added to dndbeyond with your book 😢

[@martymoore755]

Which book are these in? Can I get said book in PDF form?

[@GhostfireGaming]

Yes! These plus more for each core 5e class are in Grim Hollow: The Player’s Guide. There’s also PDF bundles available on our website. PDF link! ghostfiregaming.com/product/grim-hollow-the-players-guide-pdf/

[@radmanramezani7188]

Where can buy the monster hunter class you made. I couldn't find it in any of your three books

[@ferret3423]

I believe they made them free, so just look it up.

[@GhostfireGaming]

The Monster Hunter is still in a long development cycle. You're likely to see more of it in 2024! In the meanwhile, you can find a link to its currently iteration for free in the description of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4ashaeAbKd_mdE

[@radmanramezani7188]

@@GhostfireGaming thank you for the link

[@garrettbeighley187]

Oath of pestilence.... *laughs in papa nurgle*

[@knightghaleon]

Only thing I’d probably do for the cleric is make its spellcasting wisdom or charisma based so warlocks can transition into one

[@Deathmageddon]

Smite is the paladin’s main thing. You sure you wanna make that obsolete?

[@nappahughes4274]

Question!! Can we get the new art from Lairs Of Etharis strait from ghostfire games or do we have to buy it again on Dnd Beyound?

[@diredm3889]

Can we get this cool grim hallow stuff on Roll20?

[@adambaldinger4507]

I would yes, pray to the eldritch horror

[@wileydutkiewicz3569]

Depending on how you view the Old Testament... we already do. So let's goooo!!! 😂 Glory to Takhisis!!

[@irontarkus190]

Is that a picture of jack? Fable?