I love these shorts on liches. I have planned a lich as a bbeg, he's the undead king of a sunken city trying to contain a dangerous being within its walls. He's not evil, but he'll do anything to stop anybody from reaching that being.
@omni_lichКүн бұрын
I have conflicts with friends about Liches being able to be good, especially in the grim hollow campaign and how impossible it is, I would love to hear your information on if that is the case for a Lich to possibly even be good at all within a Grim Hollow setting, as my goal in a dnd game, especially if making a good Lich is possible.
@lastationproductions2 күн бұрын
Might be a bad movie with good ideas to use but to me it’s still a fun watch
@mrslasher10642 күн бұрын
I once played a character who was raised by hags,he was abandoned in the woods as a baby due to a deformity that gave him several tangled,twisting horns sprouting from his head,a green hag found him and instead of eating him she decided to take him back to her hovel where he was raised by her and her coven,because of his background he had the magic initiate feat and one of his cantrips was witch bolt,a spell that was special to him because he "learned it from grandma" the other members of the party were expecting a sweet old lady and were shocked when "grandma" was an ugly green skinned witch who eats frogs,specifically people that she had polymorphed into frogs before devouring them...
@Darkness_9.92 күн бұрын
7:20 interestingly enough there IS actually more in the DnD lore about why devils collect souls, at least in the plane shift setting (the setting that added most of the lore about the outer realms). There the demons of the abyss (chaotic evil) just wanna to see the world burn. But to get to the rest of the outer planes they have to go through the first layer of the nine hells (the realm of devils). And so demons and devils have fought the so called blood wars since almost eternity. To try and win this war the devils desperately needed more man power so they started to corrupt mortals to gain their souls who then, once they arrive in the nine hells turn into the lowest of devils and get pressed into service to fight this eternal war. And honestly I love this lore. Gives them a good reason to collect souls and makes it part of a larger cosmic game that questions our morality.
@tariqramadan15212 күн бұрын
It’s like a death knight
@UltraDonny50002 күн бұрын
Wow, you are making munchkin slop on WotC's level.
@DawnFireX3 күн бұрын
To your question at the end : what about Elementals? Merfolks? I'd also love to see your take on the Displacer Beast :D
@bobbobbing42203 күн бұрын
mna, ghostfire games is wasted on D&D. i wish they would go independent
@armorclasshero21034 күн бұрын
Seeing as gandalf was something like level 6 at most according to popular internet discourse, "high level" could be considered as early as 5th level...
@thomaspedersen66614 күн бұрын
warp damons!
@portawop94 күн бұрын
Could also make the thunderclap knock the wind out of spell casters for a turn or two on a failed save, making it impossible for them to cast spells with verbal component's during thaf time.
@sorenrohrbach23615 күн бұрын
4:41 enter the Aztecs
@tariqramadan15215 күн бұрын
Why call it a soul vessel why not call it a phylactery
@diabolicaldylan46815 күн бұрын
because the term phylactery has a specific definition which limits what objects you can use by using a different term they allow for more objects to be used like suddenly the soul vessel is now the lich's staff
@tariqramadan15215 күн бұрын
@ but phylactery is the same thing of what you just mentioned
@diabolicaldylan46815 күн бұрын
@tariqramadan1521 the concept of a phylactery is the same I'm talking about the literal description/definition of the word and it's use by wotc
@tariqramadan15215 күн бұрын
@@diabolicaldylan4681 so blizzard copyrighted phylactery that’s crazy
@natezabinski56155 күн бұрын
No bones about it, this transformation is to die for!
@MarkoSeldo6 күн бұрын
I would highly recommend going to check out Pointy Hat's "Which Lich?" series, where he makes different styles of lich based around each character class. There's a mad bucket of flavour there which could happily be mixed with this wild bucket of flavour to make a giant bucket of fun!
@GhostfireGaming6 күн бұрын
Definitely agree Pointy Hat’s a master of fun re-flavours of monster types!
@MarkoSeldo6 күн бұрын
Wait. I had to use a soul from my soul vessel to like this video? Damn. I'd better go find an unsuspecting victim.
@ZanTheFox6 күн бұрын
Interesting ideas
@Noone-n9f7 күн бұрын
Now I want to be DM to put my friends against druid lich
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo49547 күн бұрын
As someone who has played Warfcraft 3 perhaps too many times, I now envisage a Oath of Vengeance paladin, consumed by a mad fixation to bring retribution to a particularly hated foe, who goes down the dark path of becoming a Memori Lich after finding a particular cursed blade...
@Zer0siks7 күн бұрын
Hey, how much do you have to pledge to enroll in the play test? Wanna support but can't go throwing around stacks rn.
@GhostfireGaming7 күн бұрын
Any pledge tier, including the Digital reward tier, will give you access to the backer survey and therefore the playtest.
@Zer0siks7 күн бұрын
@GhostfireGaming Ty for the reply. Love the stuff y'all are making!
@ZonagonsBlackKnight7 күн бұрын
I remember a while back when my siblings and I were trying to make a Monster Mash Party, my brother-in-law wanted to try the Lich Transformation but was disappointed with the restrictions for it. Thanks for giving us a New Lich to work with. We never got around to doing that game, so I hope we can find the time to do it eventually with the new Grim Hollow books.
@nickmurphy29368 күн бұрын
Yesssss clerich let's gooo.
@Tomha8 күн бұрын
As a big fan of the undead, I always felt like Lich was a suckers game. Sure you get power, but power is a TOOL, not a goal, and the price is too steep for my taste as a Necromancer fan. Maybe it's because I'm a simple creature, but I think Vampirism is much, much more appealing depending on the setting. Especially in ones where Vampires keep their sense of touch/taste. To quote Star Trek... "Latinum (Money) lasts longer than Lust! Rule of Aquisition #229" "Maybe, but Lust can be a lot more fun." Eternity is a very long time, and even an immortal undead needs some form of respite.
@bobiscius9568 күн бұрын
legit my favorite song of 2024
@Dayhunter298 күн бұрын
Hi is this only for the 5e 2024 edition or is for the 5e edition as well?
@GhostfireGaming8 күн бұрын
The updated Grim Hollow books, which will include an update to the Lich Transformation, are designed for D&D 2024. However, due to the backwards compatibility of the system, Transformations will map onto 5e 2014 with almost no conversion required. Alternatively, we still have the 5e 2014 Grim Hollow books available on our website, until either the new books are published or we sell out. ghostfiregaming.com/store/
@tariqramadan15218 күн бұрын
Wow the lich can be like a death knight
@YawgmothofUborg8 күн бұрын
The one im a bit sad from the playtest is , the lich doesnt have as much ability to control undead, it feels limited for this transformation but the rest is good.
@yuen48178 күн бұрын
I feel like at each stage one Boone just stands out more than the others. I feel like it needs minor tweaks be perfect.
@laughingpanda43958 күн бұрын
My god, the amount of edgelords in ttrpgs just doubled i fear.
@memeslich8 күн бұрын
What if I told you I was a lich?
@Sir_Lorekeep8 күн бұрын
Love some good Grim Hollow content
@ashvandal56978 күн бұрын
I don't play 5e; does 5e not have a deathknight/graveknight type monster? That's typically the melee/warrior version of the a Lich. This pathway is highly reminiscent of the Lich Mythic Path from Owlcat's Wrath of the Righteous videogame. I'm not saying it's plagerism or even bad. I love the idea as I almost always play arcane spellcasters, usually evil or at least morally ambiguous, and usually have an end-goal for the campaign or story to be lichdom or half-fiend merged to rule over some demiplane or kingdom. You'd think I'd be bored of it by now, but I'm not.
@dallasmeeker55778 күн бұрын
5e does have a monster known as the Death Knight, but Death Knights are almost always raised into undeath by somebody else and used as powerful shock troops or bodyguards or are cursed into undeath as a punishment as in the case of Lord Soth. They're never created willingly by themselves.
@RoterGamer8 күн бұрын
The video about the old Lich transformation was what introduced me to Grim Hollow. Since then I've been dragged ever deeper into the world of Etharis. The Lich transformation is one of my favourite, and it's so nostalgic to me. I've been looking forward to this new video and the reworked transformation.
@dezopenguin96498 күн бұрын
I love the expansion of lichdom to different origins and classes rather than locking it behind uber-high-level caster classes, but it still does have the one big elephant in the room in that it still depends upon trapping and consuming souls, locking it to use in evil campaigns only. Transformations like the vampire, werewolf, and aberrant horror all have temptations that can pull a character towards an evil path or create a fight for them to keep to a moral code, and even the fiend and seraph retain their free will (we need only look at the Arcanist Inquisition to see how a seraph could fall into moral evil even while fully embracing the "angelic" side of their transformation, to say nothing of more typical "fallen angel" scenarios where they give way to more mortal sins, and a very interesting character arc could be drawn out of a fiend seeking redemption). But the lich actively requires the player character to commit evil acts to use class features (entirely apart from what it may do to a setting's cosmology to make souls into a consumable resource, but that's inherent in the default lore of D&D and getting around that issue already moves into the domain of homebrew), and that places a hard limit on the transformation's as-written utility.
@guyman15708 күн бұрын
Amd vampirism doesn't require committing blatant crimes? Even a relatively benevolent vampire would've needed to enslave a thrall to make it donate blood willingly into blood bags.
@yuen48178 күн бұрын
Could always consume bandits and criminals
@TradePrinceNodnarb8 күн бұрын
To be fair. It's a lich. They eat souls. They are evil
@dezopenguin96498 күн бұрын
@@guyman1570 I'm pretty sure that modern society (and the paranormal romance section of any bookstore) has shown that there are plenty of people who will willingly donate their blood to their local vampire quite freely and enthusiastically. Likewise, in real life in most countries it's quite possible to literally sell your blood for cash at the local blood drive, so in a place like Ostoya I'm certain there's a fair amount of transactional blood donation as well as coercive. Moreover, even if you entirely leave aside those options for some reason, the vampire (again, as written) doesn't need to murder their victims, meaning that they, at worst, are forced to commit assault and battery. Whereas liches are forced to commit the complete erasure of beings from existence. Not just murder, but murder-plus, as it were.
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo49547 күн бұрын
It depends how you spin it. Perhaps your Lich has a particular sense of justice, trapping and consuming only the souls of the most truly, irredeemably evil of creatures as punishment for their crimes, perhaps in accordance with the Lich's religion or as part of a desire to bring retribution to evil doers in a Ghost Rider sort of fashion. Maybe it considers claiming the power of the souls of extremely evil creatures and using that power to protect the Innocent as a sort of enforced act of restitution on the part of the entrapped soul to offset the harm they caused to innocents in life. Maybe you could tweak your Lich a bit and say it siphons off only a measure of a trapped soul's potency without devouring it entirely or doing any permanent harm, , and once the Lich feels the soul has done enough to atone for its crimes in life the Lich releases that soul to an afterlife, maybe even offering prayers to its deity to intercede on behalf of that soul, presenting its time entrapped by the Lich as 'time served' (so to speak) against its crimes when it is judged by a higher power. It would be a dark and morally ambiguous sort of thing for the Lich to do certainly, but not necessarily evil in itself, or at least not more evil than the execution of dangerous criminals which is something pretty commonly seen on medieval fantasy settings.
@samuelshirley3698 күн бұрын
For when all hope seems lost, Ben comes in with another Ghostfire Gaming banger
@jonwooley33708 күн бұрын
I don't think weapons counting as Magical as much or any value in 2024 rules. Maybe swapping out to other optional themed damage types or making it addition damage. Also pointless if you have a real magic item.
@markt71778 күн бұрын
Fun ❤
@natezabinski56158 күн бұрын
I'm personally going for a lich that is trying to grow roots somewhere, but wants as little attention as possible. Gather the funds to construct the perfect soul-vessel-protecting dungeon, but also use as many different pseudonyms as possible. Give the illusion that my party has a dozen different spellcasters under their employ. A rather difficult endeavor with Charisma being my favorite dump stat, but makes a very engaging story. TL;DR: I'm over the moon about this playtest.
@grejny08438 күн бұрын
I am kinda disappointed with the Memori Lich not being its own thing, but it still could turn up great. The main problem i see in the new lich is the lack of boons you have on the subtransformations. Memori lich needs options that the normal and divine have. I would love to see more of The Immortality of the Memori lich when he fights like being able to trade hits, or runing trough spear to cut of the head of an enemy, as a feature.
@EncontheCrow8 күн бұрын
So you want one of their features to either be play as a martial class to "trade hits" whatever that means or have an auto kill feature on an enemy. Think they do just fine in balancing out transformations abilities than doing whatever you're suggesting here. Idk how you're disappointed with this they already made it so you're character can't technically die by normal means this way...what more could you want?
@extaslash70777 күн бұрын
For sure. It kind of feels like they couldn't figure out how to give the caster lich more varied options so just combined them. First time I've been disappointed in a ghostfire decision, it was definitely advertised as a Memori lich transformation, not as a part of the lich
@sykune4 күн бұрын
@@extaslash7077I am surprised they did not make a deathknight transformation but perhaps there is a copy right on the term death knight?
@phoenyxhydra80209 күн бұрын
Time to become the ultimate introvert
@infernodelta709 күн бұрын
Time to enact the Lich Bard baby!
@DominickPerri4 күн бұрын
I rather thought about a paladin or ranger, channeling undeath against eldritch horrors, sort of a villain with a common enemy to the heroes.
@A_Old_Qrow9 күн бұрын
Once a Paladin of Heavenly Virtue, Cast from the heavens above to fall to the hells below.. Lilith, a Warrior of Seluné.. forsaken.. her wings once a lovely white burned black as she fell through the mortal coil into the fire's of Avernus.. She didn't cry as she burned, her pain was silent.. a single tear would run down her cheek before evaporating in the heat of the hells. "Foresaken me for failing in my duties for nought, I will continue to uphold my duties.." As days began to blur, months becoming years.. she'd find herself before an alter of Seluné on the surface; it was old and decrepit.. not having seen use I mean winters.. Three decade ago, the worship of the Moon Maiden would slow fade into obscurity.. it's followers forgetting their tenants and duties both to Seluné and the people of the Upper Plains and the Mortal coil... Lilith, heartbroken would remain determined.. sworn to an oath for the people.. the Ash colored angel would continue the Legacy of Seluné.. A millennia would pass, the Story of the Dawn Maiden would arise.. Lilith ascending to godhood.. would embody the teachings of Seluné..
@dillondewitt395210 күн бұрын
Dragonborn don’t have tails. Those are half dragons, yeah?
@Spinklestein12 күн бұрын
It's pretty dishonest of you guys to have no mention of the kickstarter on your website while still selling the rough drafts of these books. You're not even offering discounts to those who own them...
@sevensword5612 күн бұрын
Not me litteraly looking for where to buy it this entire video only to hear that last line 😂
@CassidyFae13 күн бұрын
Hey, I made a late pledge, and I'm curious how to claim the pdf. Also, I have been a long-time fan of grimehollow, and I love the grimedark setting.
@GhostfireGaming13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support! The post Kickstarter playtests are available through Backerkit. It may take 24-48 hours after your pledge to become visible.
@CassidyFae13 күн бұрын
Okayyyy thank you so much
@couver7316 күн бұрын
I'm sorry, but seeing the title of the first step just sent me. I'll go back into my corner and finish the video now. XD
@jimwalker183717 күн бұрын
Very interesting information! Unfortunately, the Monster Manual only discusses 3 hags (green, night, and sea). I'll have to do some searching to find more stat blocks.