Horse Racing Experts Shocked By Derren's System | The System | Derren Brown

[@lostsoleful]

I bumped into Derren Brown on a London street once. He's bloody amazing. It wasn't even him.

[@AsocialMelon]

Must have been a right mare filming that 1.48 billion times

[@LionPaw.Rastafan]

amazing to string all that together from one move! D.B. is truly the greatest showman of our times.

[@grahamyates2490]

What a master of your dark arts you are Derren, wonderful stuff. The "random" envelope choice was a bit obvious - in a video that we can rewind anyway - but the choosing of the photos is brilliant. I assume that was a 'force' based on the structure and layout of the suspended photos but I could be way off. It could just be actual magic so far as I know.

[@GreenDistantStar]

In previous encounters, Derren has infiltrated subconscious cues to the subjects beforehand. Could it be that the faces they chose were shown to them previously, like in a magazine, billboard and/or other means? Working from there planting the numbers is subterfuge, he knew that already.

[@thememaster7]

The 1 in 24 I can understand people not getting so I won't reveal that. But in regards to the rest, since he relied on his skills to have them pick a name with he same initials (admittedly I don't know how but wouldn't say if I did), the only valid way to calculate the odds after the first 500, 499. 498. 497, would be in relation to other cards with the same initials but with different numbers on them. But none of those cards existed. If they did, it could have gone wrong.

[@danhitchcock727]

So which horse is going to win the 1:50 Newmarket?

[@helddominance5033]

He touched the overall winners picture in 'The System' in this scene. Lucky touch or filmed after the episode was made? 2.25

[@grimmriffer]

Alright Penn and Teller, figure that one out! 😆

[@markbutcher4100]

He told me to put a tenner on Basura in the national but it turned out to be a rubbish tip

[@lesman9686]

The SECRET on Broadway was genius . We went to it twice and my husband still doesn't know how you did it...I know, but wont tell...brilliant presentation.

[@lesman9686]

All your shows from across the pond are absolutely crazy phenomenally awesome.

[@kellingtonlink956]

Absolutely brilliant! Is it a trick or not … pure mathematics? Either way, brilliant. Thanks for the video.

[@Xt3rmn]

I tried this the other day and managed to pull it off..... No sweat

[@TheOriginalDeckBoy]

1 of the top 3 people alive i want to meet... Derren is next level...

[@michaeldevaney5728]

I would really love to know how he did it

[@SteveSalisbury]

"Skip this if you don't want a discussion on how it is done". I guess my points for discussion: The amazing part of this is the force for the paticipants to pick the pictures that they did. The rest is clever but not quite as impressive and is effectively set up as soon as the pictures are forced. Firstly the red envelope; this would be very impressive if a particpant was asked to remove it and display its contents, yet Derren removes it and then does what seems like killing time for the purposes of altering the contents of the envelope, holding it in quite a strange way and with a few camera cuts. It also seems less impressive as, when the numbers on the back of the pictures are revealed at the end, it is not asked for in that order (1342) but in numerical order suggesting that the order was not quite as predictable. The next point is that Derren, in the envelope reveal, asked "Who mixed the envelopes? You mixed the envelopes, you handed them out, you each took one...". This is distorting their memory of what happened. Yes, she mixed the envelopes, but she handed them back to Derren who then distributed them. I would assume that the envelopes are marked so that Derren knows exactly who to give them back to and the rest is, as I said set up for the end. I just can't see of any way that he could force that choice unless there was something else that happened that we were not privy to including other potential rules of how to pick. One intersting point is the numbers on the back of a lot of them are 5, 6, 7 and even longer-digit numbers, and for the most part, separated by spaces, yet the ones chosen were 3/4 digit numbers. I just can't see of any other way to force that unless something else I'm over-looking happened.

[@pugh.joseph]

He said it was very important to focus on not choosing based on attractiveness or their names which makes them focus on those two aspects subconsciously influencing their decisions.

[@Boab689]

He did something similar I’m sure where he showed the “random” face to the person without them realising in the days and weeks leading up to the show. Making them gravitate to that person for some reason when it comes time to choose. This has nothing to do with picking horses but I still love his shows.

[@mohammedalnayar]

Interesting.. Also, most people are drawn to objects that line up with their eye level. If he knew the height of his participants before hand. He could change the location of the polaroids to tailor their heights (one is shorter compared to the other). Reason why most known brands can afford to pay a premium to have their product at the middle of the shelves in a super market.

[@VisualPrecisionLtd]

OK. There are a few holes in this. There are 500 photo's, but I suspect they're not all different, and neither are the numbers on the back. Each of the 4 participants has been conditioned over a few weeks to select the photo of choice, they've all been exposed to the image many times - they just don't realise it AND there's also a number on the front of the photo for some unexplained reason and this also holds significance to each of the 4 participants. We all lock-on to numbers that mean something to us, a ping of recognition happens when we hear certain numbers. The bottom photo's on every string can also be discounted as they're not easy to read and there are easier selections. Standing in a specific order was neat, but not impossible (obviously) and there was some type of conditioning to this as well. Once you have forced the participants to select the right photo and stand in the right order, the rest falls immediately into place. It's a slick trick but what it's got to do with horse racing I have no idea.

[@guusama3404]

is it related to the brain unconciously driving us to pick what is more similar to our name or our persona or our characteristics? and all the math being just for show? I will meet you one day sir and I will ask you questions xD...

[@spencermackay9020]

I've had enough. That wee nod he does, it's got something to do with that.

[@jenniferhumphreys8636]

Matt Cardle - Letters ((Acoustic Performance at Church) [Colour] [Live])

[@nickharmer3049]

Amazing.!

[@gggggggg3542]

I can remember actually watching this..... now before I start, I think I'm reasonably smart, I figured out every single part of the show, eg the coin tossing, the winning "lucky"" punter, and even the part where he seemingly changed his mind "picking" the winner.......... but this part still to this day I can't figure out. Coin tossing, eventually you will get 10 in a row, even if it takes hours to do it Picking the lucky winner, is all about having a big enough pool of players to eliminate multiples at a time, until you get to 1 Winning ticket, sleight of hand giving the actual "winning" ticket, bet all the horses in the race and you are guaranteed to get a winner............ how much did he earn from this show, she bet £4k, there were 5 runners so he bet £4k on each of them, gave her a winning ticket and lost £20k out of millions he made when the show was broadcast

[@michaeldevaney5728]

Absolutely unbelievable

[@audionut614]

Derren Brown is simply the best. Would love to see him "catch on" in the States... I've seen his Netflix specials, but these BBC shows are simply amazing. Would love to see him live as well..

[@garyneville1141]

Whilst I agree that Darren is brilliant at what he does, I still challenge him to actually go to any race meeting and predict all the winners. In other words with all the variables of the sport, ie trainers running thier horses down the field to get a decent handicap mark for a future target and non trying jockeys it still is impossible!!

[@michaelegan6037]

I can't pick 4 winners in a luky15 he should be rolling in money now billionaire

[@dougaltolan3017]

Be careful with the wording of the challenge... "any race meeting" could leave the choice of meeting to Derren. Never a good move with someone so devious. Better to make it a meeting of your choice.

[@andrewcottrill6272]

He'd win on the losing ticket anyway, like he did at the dog racing.

[@Trebor74]

Why pick the winners when he can convince the bookies he's got a winner and get them to pay out?

[@grimmriffer]

If you watch the full episode, you'll see that his system was in fact flawless.

[@greer2402]

Im not buying it. They were told in advance what picture to pick. No one could predict how it turned out

[@jwr04CFC]

Yeah,impressive but can ya tell us the winner of the 2 o’clock on Saturday…haha

[@jackhillman1955]

i had the national winner last week!

[@TheGloriousUncertainty]

Yes….. very improbable 🤨

[@donaldharrison6066]

box 2 3 4 5 6 , you will win

[@davidc7475]

They definitely werent told what order to stand in before filming or what photo to choose 🤔🤔🤔

[@cliveashton5895]

I have a similar system that Is guaranteed to work every time…. Only my system is to pick the losers….

[@StefanReich]

So the trick is that every participant chose the name with the same initials as their own, subconsciously? This whole thing is very odd.

[@jamesguffogg7119]

90...

[@michaeldevaney5728]

How for the love of jesus do he do that

[@michaeldevaney5728]

Frightening

[@savicaldori6637]

It's not from this earth, i think he has an alian brain 😮!!

[@AntQuick1102]

I got too bored with how long the process was --- pick pictures, dont worry about numbers on back, stand on black dots....talking, talking, more talking......I have to turn to something else in the middle of this clip now.

[@lesman9686]

You're too complicated to understand for some...I get it...I'm just autistic and understand...lol I love you so much and f the guy in Las Vegas ... you're so much more talented... I'm also a "Magician" and I've been to your show twice on Broadway...love you bro. My husband was also impressed with you,and he's an opera nut... I just love you...mentalist are so hard to become,and you're the best...You are the BEST. Nobody compares to you. You're the Master.👍✌👉❤

[@lesman9686]

You should stick to watching Fool Us...lol

[@lesman9686]

That's ment for Tony Quick.

[@lesman9686]

@@roninsdog261 do you really think you can out think him? I've seen him live and I know how he does his live events.... Can you beat him?

[@roninsdog261]

@@lesman9686 What the hell are you talking about?

[@nothingisnothing8580]

Hey. Hopefully this makes it to 'Derren Brown' --- Metal not 'mental' records. Regarding 'the metal vinyl recordings of our absolute physiology natural arrival documents'; therapy for 'those, who would prefer different truths documented'. (animal welfare and how 'mentality of being a reptile' makes more sense but it is 'easier to deny that we are lied to... and told we are primitive and divided as species') The idea of 'mental or 'metal' is about the word 'wonk'. It means 'work'. It was an ICC joke language game that made 'banx' because 'banc' wasn't 'bank'... thus, conker /conquer means work. 'Maybe Vladimir Putin didn't 'conquer' all across europe and spain but 'worked'.' but the 'work' was spelled 'con'qu'ered'; the context was 'k' is 'kombat' but 'c' is 'combat'; so, 'real combat is with a 'c' and fake combat is with a 'k' (kombat)'; like differencing 'role-playing and dramatized fighting' from 'real disturbances'.'

[@nothingisnothing8580]

a ‘blank certificate of deposit’ and how much it ‘really costs’.’ --- ‘the museum artifact' cost of the 'blank certificate of deposit for the 'metal vinyl recordings of 'humanity' and construction and physiology'; the credit default swap of quadrillions of dollars or more (From empires) could be 'about how much a 'single copy of a blank cd' truly costs'; something like 'a few cents' compared to the 'cost of the cds being used currently'.' like 'every cd is forced to have a copy of the 'pure signal-recording of the metal vinyl record put into mp3 format'.' 'gift from the 'emporers' who made it; and a 'costly thing for the 'emporers' who didn't chose to use their 'own' blank cds'.'.' --- like 'each one of the blank cds costs as much as the full credit default swap of 'hundreds of quadrillions or more'.' --- because 'that is how much the persons who 'made it' are charging per 'blank-certificate of deposit'

[@DanOC1991]

Seek help

[@Eddie_Booth]

Nice Trick Dez

[@debagusadi3626]

Hi derren i"m your fans, biden, trump & vlamidir putin. I have friend yongki jewelry stone in satria market denpasar bali. My name is I Gede wira adiputra, born thrusday16december1993, from penarungan bangkiangsidem mengwi badungbali. Job sales, real estate broker, food. Every weeks i,"m go to bookstore, bar & beach bali to running

[@thehowlingterror]

Horse racing is a dirty business from top to bottom.

[@KerryOki66]

Only because you don’t know how to win ! 100% fact

[@BJ52091]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX2Vc2B3dtOmftE

[@richardtoewater3113]

Good try D Unfortunately not impressed But. You fooled most Good man

[@FlameFlickers]

Good try at writing a comment that makes you feel superior. Unfortunately, not impressed. And. You're fooling nobody Good man

[@Real_vizion]

@@FlameFlickers 😂😂

[@kellyjordan6440]

This is super old footage he actually has hair...

[@livrementehipnoseclinicaby5778]

Sou Brasileira e não falo inglês, fico esperando alguém dublar ou legendar pq vc é incrível

[@nightowl7459]

@LIVRE MENTE Hipnosecp Clinica By Luiza Marquez That's okay, I don't speak Brazilian.

[@livrementehipnoseclinicaby5778]

@@nightowl7459 💚💛🇧🇷

[@livrementehipnoseclinicaby5778]

In Brazil we speak portuguese

[@nightowl7459]

@@livrementehipnoseclinicaby5778 Well that's something I certainly didn't know.

[@peterwilson2342]

hes also excellent at making objects like choods and helmets disappear up his choccy starfish

[@peterwilson2342]

how much did he win ? oh yeah absolute f all.