Horses that Pull Back: Weighted Leather Reins

[@wildaterrile5160]

Thanks! Good videos and easy to understand.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

Thank you

[@jaburch7941]

The weighted reins are meant to keep the end of the reins hanging neutrally instead of flopping around, especially in the latter scenario you describe where you're shifting from 2 to 1 handed riding in a Don Dodge bridge. I struggle riding with non-weighted rein ends, especially if they're short. I've never heard anyone prefer them for being better to whip a horse with, and most of the cutting horse trainers I worked for or rode with had no difficulty whopping a horse. For right or wrong.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

Most cutters are that way. I dont care if they are weighted or not and can't see how they hang any different but to each there own.

[@bryanmontgomery4050]

True weighted are weighted at bit and tail ends, it’s like using light but chains on the bit end and keeps them laying in your hand with the tail end weight. Really gotta understand these reins, they are mainly meant for both in one hand but can be used one over each side of the neck.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

sounds gimmicky as can be

[@hhlagen]

Thanks for the info. I’ve got one that sets back and I always look for a stout live oak tree to tie him to.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

nice

[@emilylewis7642]

I wonder if that question about weighted reins was referring to the type of weighted rein that we often use when showing pleasure horses, that's weighted on the bit end, from the bit to about a foot or so down, so that they hang with a nice drape. Do you know what I'm talking about? I had a pair of split reins like that that were weighted with tiny metal balls in between two pieces of leather stitched together, so they had flexibility but also a lot of weight. Helps give the appearance of riding on a loose rein in a western pleasure class. I bet you're not too keen on that type of weighted rein either lol?

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

I am familiar with those as well. I have a set of Romel reins that have leaded ends, they are not legal to show with in the NRCHA. Yeah not a big man.

[@timandersonhorsetraining]

Sorry. There is more to weighted reins than that. When riding 1 handed on a finished horse the weight of the rein balances with the amount of pull on the bit giving you a neutral feel in your hand which allows for more refined contact with the bit.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

Groovy. I dont ride a finished horse in split reins. Seems kinda silly to weight your reins just so you can feel your bit. Id throw that Kelly away and get a good one.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

Tim. I watched a couple of your videos.

[@bryanmontgomery4050]

Absolutely!

[@joelhamilton6720]

Blessings this Lords Day

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

thank you

[@markmahnken6409]

I saw Justin Wright puts a granny knot on the ends of his split reins. I might try that. Maybe it ads weight or keeps it more still? Not sure. Have you ever done that?

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

yeah I do that, its because they are to long and the horse will step on them when you choke up, but some of those guys claim they hang straighter that way.

[@markmahnken6409]

Truck inner tube takes all their fun away. I use 3/4" weighted split reins harness leather by Weaver for training. 8' for the larger horses and 7' for the cutter types. I'm always getting my reins stuck on either side under my saddle fenders. Does this ever happen to you? It's really bothersome but I haven't really found a cure for it. I'm almost constantly pulling them back out. What say you? Any fixes?

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

I don't know. I dont have a problem with that. Im not that picky about reins, I just roll.

[@markmahnken6409]

@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt So irritating that I"m the only one with this problem. I've asked other good horsemen and they say the same thing.

[@dylaningle3113]

Maybe it's the saddle?

[@markmahnken6409]

@@dylaningle3113 I've ridden about every saddle under the sun and it's the same.

[@normmyers4337]

I've seen a bunch of horse gotten over pulling back

[@normmyers4337]

I've seen a bunch of horses gotten over it

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

Really? Iv not seen many that were confirmed in the habit really give it up.

[@tinoyb9294]

I have a theory that pulling back becomes a habit because endorphins get released in the brain, and the horse gets addicted to them. This may be why the Blocker tie ring seems to work. Your opinion? Thanks for another good topic.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

It sure seems like they get addicted to it.

[@tracyjohnson5023]

@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt😂

[@tracyjohnson5023]

Thing about those tie rings is once they figure it out they'll keep backing up and get loose...unless you tie a knot in leadrope.

[@danemoore2302]

We had a old mare when i was little that had been a using cow horse her whole life she damn sure wasnt dirty broke but you could damn sure get a job done on her. A colt dumped a guy off and run in between her and the fence and she was tied with a get down rope snd and pulled back and that rope broke snd thats what started her oulling back. Grandpa flipped a "war bridle" into a catch rope and thats how she got tied up after that. 3 or 4 times of coming tight with that war bridle she quit pulling back. Dont know if thats the way id always do it but it works

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

Iv done the same. It works but its sketchy

[@betsysmall3576]

That's why war bridles are illegal in some states!!

[@danemoore2302]

@@betsysmall3576 what state?

[@tracyjohnson5023]

We tie all our babies up with that belly rope as described. Very seldom have one that tries it more than twice. I've never done the foot rope but I'm going to try it on older horses that are known to set back. Idk why anyone uses other than a rope halter and tied on leadrope with set back horses. Snaps break for sure. My grandaddy always said tie them up and go to the house for 30 minutes lol. He also said horses that won't trailer load aren't truly halter broke. Smart man.

[@HorsemanshipAsAnArt]

I darn sure agree with the trailer part.