Horten XVc "Pappenheim" flying

[@dinkmartini3236]

That was a smooth touchdown.

[@johnfranborra]

The Horton brothers were brilliant. And they were little more than kids when they began developing and perfecting these designs! As a frustrated glider pilot, I consider their later, high aspect sailplanes among the loveliest machines ever to take flight.

[@tifosaurus]

Magestic flying wings, for sure.

[@HerbertHaag-l1f]

A wonderful Plane 👍

[@tifosaurus]

Indeed. And it flies wonderfully also at model scale. Watch my other video with the RC Horten XVc I have built: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWGYp4annJxgZq8si=XwNCl-GpyUr8oYZg

[@thefrenchcommander5770]

Looks like one of the time machines from Meet the Robinsons

[@rubenlopez4344]

Rieman Horten se radico en Argentina despues de la WWII. Alli construyó para la Fabrica Militar de Aviones un prototipo de esta ala volante, que se puede ver hoy en el Museo Aeronautico de Morón, Provincia de BsAs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKLbf42fd5tkd7Msi=gKfwJOVBmLxxaCwJ

[@enedenedubedene4811]

Was hat dieser Flieger für einen Antrieb?👆👆👆👆😀😀😀 Viele Grüsse aus Germany

[@tifosaurus]

Kein motor. Es ist ein segelflugzeug und wird mit einem Katapult gestartet.

[@DD-uf2uo]

What powers it?

[@EdwardKelly-vi9sg]

I DIDN'T NOTICE A PROPULSION SOURCE....

[@dr.wilfriedhitzler1885]

Fuselage like the P 38.

[@tifosaurus]

@@dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 Yes, kinda...

[@luke_skywanker7643]

I wonder how that thing does in a flat spin?

[@jstephenallington8431]

Answer: VERY badly.

[@billbunting4253]

What was the propulsion on this prototype?

[@tifosaurus]

@@billbunting4253 It was a glider.

[@billbunting4253]

@ Towed, I thought so. A fully operations aircraft with similar wing earlier, and one of my favorites of all time, was the Waterman Aerobile. One hanging in the Smithsonian.

[@tifosaurus]

@@billbunting4253 Yes, it cannot be seen in this video, but apparently there is a towing winch in the distance. Waterman' s Aerobile was a completely different beast: it was motorized flying wing, intended as a "flying car". So, the wings were removable and the wheels powered just like in an automobile. The Horten Pappenheim in this video, was intended to be a trainer glider from the beginning. Of course, it was also a flying wing, like the Aerobile, but the similarities end here.

[@billbunting4253]

@ True to all you say. I was really thinking of the technological level at the time. From an aviation perspective. Commonalities were the swept back wing for both distributed lift, yaw and pitch stability, hence no rudder required, and the dihedral for roll stability. The Aerobile was developed up to 1935. It was incredibly stable to fly and could not be put into a flat spin nor stalled unintentionally. There was a simulator file for FX10 which I flew a number of times. It was not fast. The Horton Papenheim would have had very similar flying characteristics, except that the center of gravity of the Aerobile was lower and it had small wing tip rudders so the Horton would have been somewhat less stable.

[@tifosaurus]

@@billbunting4253 Provided that the Center of Gravity in the Pappenheim was correct, then it would also be very stable. It was reported as such, at least. In general, the correct CoG placement for a swept flying wing is one of the most critical aspects for its success, whether it is with endplates, or without. I really love these aircraft.

[@g.k.4067]

Pappenheim bei Treuchtlingen?

[@tifosaurus]

Ich bin kein Deutscher, das musst du mir sagen! :)

[@kutlachakela]

This flew but 229 couldnt?¿?¿?

[@tifosaurus]

@@kutlachakela Also the 229 flew. What do you mean exactly?

[@EarlHare]

Butter

[@tifosaurus]

@@EarlHare Butter? With crisps?

[@soundtrackmusic9111]

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