HORUS HERESY TACTICAL SQUAD BUILD OPTIONS - Weapons & Parts Included - Warhammer Age Of Darkness

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HORUS HERESY TACTICAL SQUAD SPRUES - Weapons Included & Build Options - Warhammer Age Of Darkness

[@danroberts007]

@ 5:37 that piece you didn’t use on both sprues is the Augury Scanner wargear upgrade which you will probably want to include on some of your squads. It’s not mentioned in the rules on the back of the assembly guide, but it is in the Liber Astartes/Hereticus books and is fairly useful gear to have on your squads to deter flanking & Deep Strike attackers from getting too close.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

Ah, the "you're not taking my backfield" wargear.

[@robertstrong6798]

As this is a legion tactical squad I don’t mind the lack of heavy and special weapons. My one pet hate is the lack of a bolt pistol arm for the sergeant and chain sword for bare bones 🦴builds. Cosmetically far better I love them 😍 just two important options missing

[@Theenragedone]

I completely missed that, as I pulled hand flamers out of a Black Templars box for my two Salamander Tac Squads. The lack of bolt pistol, and chain sword shouldn't be too bad if you have been playing awhile, but it will hurt new players, and that sucks.

[@afriendlyonionbro4621]

Aye, I found this pretty annoying aswell. Feel they could have extended the smaller sprue to give the chains words, bolt pistols and combi weapons. I managed with mine as word bearers by giving them corrupted chainswords from the csm range. But to players without existing space marine or csm forces this would suck.

[@bobdole8830]

I think for a set that comes with 40 MK VI miniatures, just having 5, more or less, monopose Marines with hardly ANY options is pretty shite. I had to add a ton of bits from other kits to make it look somewhat varied and get together a decent loadout. They should at least have added one of the Special and/or heavy weapon sprues and maybe just throw in 30 Marines instead.

[@Theenragedone]

@@bobdole8830 it's a Legion Tactical Squad. There isn't a reason to put special weapons, or heavy weapons in. They don't have the option for it. It would have been nice to have a Thunder Hammer though.

[@flak1939]

Apparently bayonets cost 1 pt (from the actual liber books), it's a typo in the box game.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Nice one, thank you. That's a quick update to the rules 🤣

[@TeAXIIIT13]

Actually the datasheet in the liber books is quite different, there’s a lot more options available

[@lokalnyork]

Yeah, at 0 points there was literally NO reason to not take them.

[@dekai7992]

The reason why there are no special weapons in this set is, well, because Legion Tactical Squads cannot take any special weapons, apart from the combi-weapon the Sergeant can choose.

[@brunneng38]

I’m thinking it’s probably having to do with someone at GW saying “we can charge $35 per box and trick these suckers into buying a special weapons set AND heavy weapons!

[@obitomkenobi7758]

@@brunneng38no it’s just cheaper on us to buy just tacticals if you want just tacticals rather than paying more for special weapons

[@Gary-gq2le]

I just got ahold of this box set and used it to build true scale firstborn deathwatch vets and they are soooo cool with a few extra pieces this kit gave alot in return

[@PZY.Studios]

Are they bigger then normal tac marines

[@mrdelaney4440]

40 Bolt pistols and 40 chainswords we do really need that kit ASAP.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

100%

[@olly123451]

I’m considering putting together some MKIV Marines for a kill team because I think these models are super cool, and could be a lot of fun to customise.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Very cool models, would be great in Kill Team.

[@from_nothing_official]

Thanks for this vid! I'm completely new to warhammer 40k/30k and these are going to be my first models ever! I'm super excited for when it comes in!

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Thanks for watching! Have fun with your box set when you get it.

[@lordchancellorhatton1910]

You have to make sure you put the thinnest bit of glue on those studded shoulder pads, or else it just seeps through

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Great tip!

[@aidanwhite1123]

@ 3:17 what are those two little pieces in the top left corner that look like gas masks? Do they just get glued onto the hip or can they be put on the no helmet heads?

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

I don't know what they are but they get glued onto the hip. I thought they looked like gas masks too. I'll ask around and get back to you if I find out.

[@jappmayo1220]

Great video covering all the details anyone could want to know about these kits 🙂 definitely tempting me to buy some for myself

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Thanks, Gabriel!

[@MardukRish]

Hi dear! Big regards from Moscow! Thanks!

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Thanks for watching!

[@anubis1416]

can you use special weapons with tac squads? I didnt think you could at all, that instead they were a different squad altogether?

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

When you add the weapons to the tactical squad models, it changes them to a Legion Tactical Support Squad or Legion Heavy Support Squad.

[@nicholasoneil2016]

You can run squads as veteran squads which act like “modern” tactical squads. They are usually elite but can be used as troops with a rite of war.

[@bombarded15]

That's the real question I have looking at the box set and the special/heavy weapon expansion packs, I'd want to wait to assemble all 40 of those bodies

[@jonridley]

It’s been giving me a bit of analysis paralysis what weapons to put on my marines and also which chapter to go with (I.e in terms of the options in the box, which legions do they work well for and which will require extensive conversion). I was thinking night lords but then realised I’d have to buy a lot of forgeworld stuff in terms of weapons, pauldrons and ´faces.´ About the only thing I’m certain on now is a: I’m definitely going traitor legions as I bought the codex and b: I managed to get one of the weapons packs (the plasma and flamers etc) but not the heavy weapons… now I’m thinking I need the heavy weapons too before I start and also not entirely sure how to compose my squads in terms of how many special weapons etc snd finally which traitor legions best match up to the box and which ones don’t. I was kinda torn between 3 (after abandoning my night lord idea) of either sons of Horus, world eaters or thousand sons… I like all 3 thematically and in terms of colour schemes . It’s a hard decision 😂 if you do have any advice I’d appreciate it … I’m kinda leaning towards fast strike, speeders, bikes and dreads. One other thing that’s feeding into my analysis paralysis is that I’m not a massive fan of the Horus Primarch model and like the other 2… hmmm

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

I haven't got the army book yet so hard to say. I'm the same, I still don't have the heavy weapons either, so I reserved 2 sets of tactical squads to build later. I'll be mostly playing this lot in 40k so I'm keeping my Horus Heresy options pretty simple. I only know a couple of people near me who will play it. Sons of Horus paint scheme is stunning, but for fast strike I wonder if any seasoned players here in the comments have any ideas?

[@travisvance619]

its important to note that if you take chain swords your bolt pistols count as combat weapons so that's +1 attack (for having 2 weapons) and shred for 5 points at str 4 but. chain bayonets are str 5 with a shred

[@timniederkorn5825]

Nice review! Is it possible to put the body together and put the arms/gun together so those two pieces can be painted separately (sub assembly style)?

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Thank you! It's possible, but could be fiddly.

[@timm2428]

Im not sure what Im gonna do with the 40 tactial marines yet. ATM Im thinking 2 5 man tactical squads,some kinda vet squad or two, maybe a couple assualt squads....ect planning on putting these into my howling griffons force.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Nice! Mine are now Dark Angels for 40k in a Fallen Chaos army. Have fun getting yours ready for battle!

[@timm2428]

@@tabletopskirmishgames Oh I will theres so many conversion possiblities with that many troopers.

[@abdulhammouda4884]

Well this is a lovley little video mate well done

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Thanks Abdul!

[@andreweckford6319]

Minor ask - are the sets of arms/bolters interchangeable across different torsos or do they really only work with their default pose? Ie - can the arms from marine C on the sprue go onto marine D torso or they will be in an awkward position? Just wondering if I get some additional squads if it’s going to be as much variety as was possible with the firstborn tacticals. GW pics of the horus heresy box were the same 5 individual painted models copy pasted 8x over :-)

[@rlauder7210]

I tried swapping some arms around and it sort of works, but sort of doesn't. They torso's are designed specifically for the set of arms that are with it on the sprue, but with a bit of knifework and fettling, you can get other arms to fit. However as the poses are all so similar, once you've got 20+ beakies all made up and painted, I really couldn't tell which ones I'd swapped the arms on.

[@pascal9055]

Where is the chainsword for the sergeant?

[@HeyBenRichards]

Are Vortex grenades back?

[@Kinaro666]

Kobold like crow person, he give advice to kobold on how make little plastic humans! I rate channel a big shiny gem out of a pot of green moss!

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

🤣 Nice one Kobold!

[@wesguemmer4181]

Are blackshields going to be Thing in this edition of the book?

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

I don't know, but hopefully someone here in the comments can help.

[@zanefrag8269]

Can you mix the bayonets mmm. I might

[@dking6021]

Btw the points in the pamphlet are not accurate, bayonets are 1pt each in the actual book, some with a lot of the stats of the weapons

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Nice one, thank you for posting that out.

[@connorwright26]

If the heavy or special weapons upgrades are used on a squad of the tactical marines, does that take away the "troop" unit category away and turn them into heavy support or elite? Or do they stay as tactical marines but cost more points?

[@Luke-ic8qi]

If you give them the 40k style 1 heavy & 1 special they need to be veterans (which can be troops with a specific rite of war). If you give them all special then the special weapon support squad is still troops (can't be compulsory) and all heavies is the heavy weapon support squad which is heavy support.

[@GimbleOnDew]

Only 5 sculpts for 40 models is pathetic. Is this digital age it cost next to nothing to do 10 sculpts instead. Really why I'm going to start printing my next armies

[@fizzyheart2486]

Im buying the tactical squad box and making 40k killteams out of it. Should be able to make 3.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

Nice one!

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

These are fine miniatures. But this is as usual. What really upsets me is that I expected much more interesting works using new Horse Heresy models for Warhammer 40,000. But so far I have found only three in the web. Everything else is endless copying of SM Legions.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

I was happy to get so many beak helmets!

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

@@tabletopskirmishgames I understand. I used to collect such bits myself a long time ago, asking all my friends and acquaintances about it. But now I think it's best waz for ANY Warhammer miniatures to be helmet-less with uncovered heads. It is extremely important to break the feeling of "plastic toy soldiers".

[@UndeadKing_5150]

Tac squads can't take special weapons.

[@tabletopskirmishgames]

When you add the weapons to the tactical squad models, it changes them to a Legion Tactical Support Squad or Legion Heavy Support Squad.

[@UndeadKing_5150]

@@tabletopskirmishgames kind of. Those are separate choices. They also have to take all the same weapon in the squad. So you can't just add two meltas they would need to take 5 in the support squad which again are separate from tac squads