Hot Jupiter VS Dav's Hope - Easy Engineering Materials

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[@Quincebo]

7 minute video, takes 3 hours to cut/paste/edit etc. Big thanks for all your guides and other helpfull video's!

[@TylerProvick]

Also, in one you are scavenging at an abandoned facility, and the other you are murdering tourists in a lawless system

[@mistahwolfie]

No-one gets murdered in E:D. Everyone makes it to a lifepod and awakes at a station (or in prison) - some of the NPC pilots must also have insurance because they're soon back out there being shot down by me (again).

[@masondegaulle5731]

@@mistahwolfie ...except for the Assassination and Massacre missions of course...

[@chungisyoung4good]

@@masondegaulle5731 That's because they don't have insurance. The poor bastards.

[@OpaqueWindow]

@@mistahwolfie I have killed zap brannigan 3 times now

[@cmdradlervermil6040]

And both methods... suck. HGE farms is better than both and then some. Don't waste time at the SRV track or murder random innocent people. Go find High Grade Emission, particularly from Imperial wrecks for Simp Shielding and trade away. Face it, getting Materials sucks. So always do it in the absolute most efficient manner possible, even if it's slightly mind numbing.

[@vhlps]

im literally farming at dav's hope right now and this video just popped up.

[@maxkolbe3804]

Astro is watching you.

[@reanukeeves1485]

Does davs hope still exist bc it is not popping up for me. And yes i also scanned the nav beacon

[@vhlps]

@@reanukeeves1485 I've been out of the game for a couple days now, but i do think it still exists man, the first time I found it was by coordinates.

[@vhlps]

@@reanukeeves1485 search for this video, it is the one I used "elite dangerous where to find chemical processors/manipulators and various rare engineering materials", maybe try surface scanning the planet first.

[@adamb8549]

@@reanukeeves1485 yes, I just visited it today

[@redthorne2836]

Even if you know how to HGE, even if you know how to Dav's, it's always nice to have another option if you're looking for something different to do. To me, that's the 'best way' to play. Sometimes people mash together "best" as "most efficient," which need not be the case. Best is what works for you, and if that happens to be "being most efficient," then have at it! No right or wrong here.

[@oaklandblocks]

Yeah, I totally agree with this. I'm actually going to try Hot Jupiter since I need mats and more combat rank. Always something for someone. :)

[@theprogram863]

Yeah I think it's most efficient to just stick to mission-running and doing HGE's as I bump into them... but I mainly started doing it that way because it was a way more fun way to play. I just do what I like doing and the materials started piling up faster than when I was grinding and relogging. (The HIP systems and crystal shards for raw materials is still the most efficient, but even then it's a fun trip out of human space and you get to zip around in your SRV. It's a grind in theory but not unpleasant. And you really only have to do it once in a very rare while.)

[@nickpannell9411]

Tried both locations and both just as good for there own reasons, collected enough mats prior to the trip to Colonia hosted by D2EA - Thank you for your fantastic channel and videos

[@cmdrxevaster]

Hot Jupiter might be helpful to new commanders trying to build up combat rank and get more experience in combat while still getting relatively high grade mats.

[@ig6786]

Does it build rank? I do allot of hazrez and my rank doesn't move really, i have allot of experience but that's the one area that i can't reach elite

[@BigDaddyWes]

@@ig6786 The amount of combat xp you get is based on the rank of the target ship relative to you. If they have a significantly higher rating than you, you get a lot more xp. Conversely, *if a target is 5 or more combat ranks below the player, they give no experience at all.* In order to rank to go from Deadly to Elite, you have to kill *at least an Expert* to get any xp, and they'll only be giving you a quarter of what a Deadly target would. TL;DR: Only low combat ranks can gain any combat xp using this material farm. elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Combat

[@duxbellorumdraconis]

No, not really. I'm a fairly new commander and even in my engineered Chieftain, I can't reliably kill a Beluga before it jumps out. Even Orcas are iffy.

[@themits4853]

What I like about Dav's is the fact I can kick back and use my xbox controller for the SRV, making for comfortable prolonged grinding (also each reset takes like a minute and a half once you get the hang of it, so I feel it's a faster method too). But I didn't know about this place until today, so thanks for that! Seems like a nice change of pace for some shorter, high yield farming sessions for those sweet, sweet components!

[@stanleyramsrud5204]

I go just to gank passenger ships with no repercussions, I dont need Hot Jupiter's mats cause Dav's Hope keeps me full

[@xLSU0408x]

One more plus about Dav's Hope is that you can scan the data point each time and get encoded data x1-3.

[@timhartherz5652]

Last time I've been there davs hope was only dropping grade 2 and 3 mats with occasional grade 1 and 4, was just a massive waste of time, i rather go after high grade emissions in fed/imp systems or do robigo runs. Going for a jameson crash site for data.

[@brianthomas906]

Didn't know about Hot Jupiter until I stumbled upon this video. Excellent. I was 41 Conductive Polymers from full, so I jumped over here and filled them up in about an hour! Thank You Beluga's............Uhmm..........I meant TY D2EA!!

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

Thank you for these excellent beginner tutorials!

[@PetesCreativeRecycling]

Settled once and for all! THANK YOU!

[@Musicman247]

I like HGEs in Imperial systems personally. Guaranteed at least 9 grade 5 materials per signal. Empire aligned systems with high population (in the billions) with state none or election give the best chance for the HGEs. Scan the nav beacon, jump to supercruise, check for HGEs. When done, go back to the beacon, log off for 10-15 minutes then log back in to refresh the system.

[@CymBan]

I'm assuming u milk the HGE's u do find. ie raid it. exit game, come back in , go into SC, find it right beside u and Raid it again till the timer runs out? with 20mins I can raid an HGE 4-5 times

[@grahamcrabb7714]

Thank you D2EA had no idea there was another mat farm place near Davs.

[@pluxauag7555]

I did Dav's hope on Friday, however I have located a system which has a rich abundance of quite remarkable signal source drops. I'll compile a list and see if it's as good as the pan colours indicate. Awesome tape as always, most useful to know.

[@bennuwa]

Please do keep me updated!

[@angryman2406]

Good timing on this video. I was taking off today to go fill up.

[@cmdrmaskime]

Great comparaison, very usefull ! Thanks !

[@nfapeng187]

Im a new player, ive only been to Dav's hope so far. Literally first time was earlier today. But i also went to a few ship wreck's. Some base in a b10+ something where you have to scan. Those data sites within a certain amount of time. Im watching this video now but ima see what everyone says in comments after i get done writing my story haha. Thanks for the videos tho man. There is a few good content creators out there that actually have useful details instead of just talking crap. Thanks again!

[@elkikex]

Went to Dav's Hope for the first time last night, it's pretty good. Faster and more entertaining than the crashed Annies.

[@buhatkj]

This is basically exactly what i was looking for. Ive used davs hope a lot, but tbh I kinda hate driving the SRV cuz i stink at it and get stuck all the time.

[@willshepherd4544]

I used to hate it too, but I think practice really does make perfect, because I am Daytona 500 in that bitch now! if you use an xbox controller, it's actually kinda fun once you get used to it.

[@SWIFTO_SCYTHE]

@@willshepherd4544 nothing will make thr SRV fun to drive...we have Mofo flying starships and my wheeled SRV gets stuck on. Rock.

[@willshepherd4544]

@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE lolz, yes but that's why they have boosters. but yes when I first started driving them, I could not make it across Dav's without getting stuck and cussing a blue streak.

[@duxbellorumdraconis]

Biggest thing for me was turning off drive assist. That way the accelerator works like one; when you let off the pedal (button), it comes to a stop.

[@BlackbirdDH]

Great video ... didn't know about Hot Jupiter.

[@ChrisFowlerNH]

Another advantage of Dav's is that it has a comms Beacon that can be scanned for data packages

[@godly109]

hge respawning is still better since you get guaranteed g5

[@abdur78]

What's HGE respawning?

[@ak01ops3]

@@abdur78 once u find a high degraded emission(u find them by scanning nav beacon) you can basicly respawn it after u collected all the g5 materials for better understanding just search how to respawn HGE in elite and u'll find a lot of videos talking about it

[@NiallKearney]

@@abdur78 There are plenty of videos on it but basically you collect G5 materials in a High Grade Emissions signal, do the log out dance like at dav's hope, reenter the signal site and fill up on a G5 material. Go to a material trade and trade down, you can fill up fairly fast. It's like the HIP sites and crystal shards for raw materials.

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

I didn't know about this. Thanks.

[@MinistryOfMagic_DoM]

Davs Hope + HGE combined is the best combo.

[@gautamasakyamuni6688]

Dav's Hope is only G2/3 with a G4 one in a million.

[@Cobb]

Awesome, I was really hating trying to find the high wake signals to get engineering mats.

[@riseandshinemrfriman5925]

Thank you D2EA for this guide on how to obtain engi mats o7. Gonna try farming some mats on Dav's Hope cuz I can't be bothered setting up another ship for just Hot Jupiter farming, especially due to limpet restocking. Not sure if it's still viable and good with Odyssey out, but I'll see. Happy Holidays 🎄

[@ianoag]

Well it looks like I'm going to have to give Hot Jupiter a try seeing as how Dav's Hope seems to have been nerfed in one of the Odyssey updates. Great video, very straightforward and thank for the tip! o7

[@racingtwo7490]

Thank you so much

[@dcsignal5241]

HGE and the Material Trader. Nuff said.

[@NiallKearney]

This. I remember doing the Dav's Hope loop. Driving around and around and around and around. Finding HGE's was so much faster when stock piling particular materials.

[@WoobiewookieBlogspot]

Hey Astro - I know this is a few years late, but still may have some relevancy. Dav's Hope is also way better for starting or reset characters. We have to note that you're using the Cucumber - essentially an end-game ship that probably already has a bunch of engineering. For people looking to bulk up their engineering materials from zero, even Grade 1 and Grade 2 materials can be valuable, since they can reduce time spent traveling between mat traders to cross-trade, especially if you have a small or beginner fleet. Just a thought.

[@TheMorrogoth]

Dav's Hope also has the Data Point you can scan for data each time you reset.

[@feanor3791]

Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

[@lightwoven5326]

My opinion is that Conductive Ceramics is the lowest drop from Dav's Hope, along with Chemical Manipulators. Both are required for Overcharged Power Plants and Charged Enhanced Power Distributor. So if you need to max out for those on ships, the majority of new ships for sure, then Hot Jupiter should be the first port of call. For everything else Dav's Hope gives the best return on time.

[@Squad23jta]

The problem with the Hot Jupiter site is you need a decent ship to kill them quickly enough before they jump (at least I do😀) . I tried targeting their FSD but they run very quickly when you start blasting them. Travelling out here in my combat ships is painfully slow. I think cross-trading from other sources would probably be quicker.

[@agentmith]

Hot Jupiter sounds amazing. Is this relatively new? I’ve never heard of it before. It’s been impossible getting more than 2 or 3 different grade 5 manufactured components, and I always make a list of 5 or 6 prerequisite systems to check and either HGEs don’t spawn or they have < 5 mins left.

[@willshepherd4544]

You are the reason I go to Dav's... honestly, it is a grind either way, so I'll just stick with the original. I like Dav's I'll stick with Dav's. Thanks again for making me aware of it. And I DO like the murder spree, but I do NOT like using limpets... like for anything. I only mine if I am forced to, THAT'S how much I don't like limpets.

[@nuncapasaran9374]

Thanks for the tutorial. I've been just wandering around shipwrecks, but they almost never have what I'm looking for with the chemical processors and each site is thousands of Ls away, so it's time consuming just to get one chemical processor piece.

[@Rykaas]

Dav's hope is my way to go. All you need is an SRV and it gives you pretty much everything you need

[@inspector4133]

I like to take all the pirate missions for one system, then go to a couple of nearby systems that also offer pirate missions for that single system. Take a Python/Anaconda/Corvette/Cutter with a 5A or 7A collector, and about 100+ limpets. Kill the pirates, usually at Nav beacon or at the mission signal sites. You get 1) Mission rewards, 2) Bounties from that system, 3) Manufactured mats, 4) Combat rank. As you get higher in rep and rank, the pirates get better. I'm Dangerous now, and most of the named pirates fly Anacondas and Corvettes. Usually one or two lvl 5 drops. It's low key and doesn't seem as "grindy" as Dav's Hope. Pluse, I've made over 50mil credits/hour with good missions. (Tip: If different factions give you mission to kill X number of pirates, each pirate counts for both missions). Hope this helps.

[@Pharesm]

Those chairs can't compete with my Herman Miller Aeron...

[@marcelogenesis23]

I would never kill civillians for materials.... davs hope still best

[@ventusvero4484]

Exactly. You monsters! (also, I spend enough time flying, not enough time on the ground, so Dav's Hope is still for me).

[@CMDR_Evolution]

Same here. I always build up rep as I fly around too and murdering people from a few minor factions isn't in theme with my 'good guy' ethos

[@vulpophobia3104]

I been killed enough do to beluga's in the card slot, I won't regret taking them out. And seeing I need the heat items well, lets just say its time to go whaling

[@glasshalfempty1984]

I know they aren't real but I feel the same way lol. Just feels wrong 🤔

[@pluxauag7555]

The System I've sat my carrier USCSS Winterblossom is: BD-09 956 and this is one of those systems where exit re-enter will net you up to 10 degraded's in a very small range typically around the major gas giant. Quite alot of Private data double drops as well when they are available within the degradeds.

[@skunkjumper1]

Hot Jupiter, the secret ingredient is crime

[@cmdrTremyss]

We've collected insane amount of goods. All it cost was our souls.

[@sjgoff]

That thumbnail looks familiar ;)

[@Null24]

I'm my experience pirates will also spawn at hit jupiter, and I even once got a clipper and type 10, which can drop grade 5 mats

[@add3406]

Apparently it's been a while since I've done combat (haven't played in over 2 years). I started a new account, went to Hot Jupiter in an FDL, can't kill them fast enough before they jump....

[@robbetts712]

I have to use anaconda with engineered beams and mortar cannons to be able to pop them before they jump out

[@sidrat2009]

It's a nice change up to the process of material collection - shame there's not G5 stuff to make it even more luxurious however.. Certainly not a bad way to kill time and shouldn't be that difficult to get enough G4 materials to trade up to the G5 for that one off module completion upgrade. For materials I've preferred the High Grade Emissions in Large Population Empire systems but yeah it's dull if you do any one thing for too long. Thanks for the video.

[@TenmasSchoolOfThought]

Update: you can now collect davs hope without srv

[@Dragn0d]

One more thing to consider: Driver though a settlement with my SRV my fps drop to like 20. I dont have that problem when shooting cruise liners in open space.

[@picsmics4]

Quick question - why is this particular one better over killing pirates at a compromised nav beacon and such? Do only tourist ships drop engineering mats?

[@Gailim]

This is kind of a moot question as HGEs are more efficient than both. The trade down rates are very good for grade 5 mats. Granted you can't get all class 5 mats and pharmaceutical isolators and improvised components can take a while to find. But the rest are easy to find. And even for the rare ones if you find just two HGEs with 20+ minutes left you can fill all the lower grades on the branch with the first one and get enough with the second that you likely won't need more for months

[@theprogram863]

YES. One HGE turns into an average of 12x G5 mats, no relogging required. With the trader, that is the equivalent of 36x G4 mats, 108x G3 mats, 324x G2, or 972x G1 mats in the same category, all from one HGE visited ONCE, no special trip required. With 187x G5 materials in a category and the Material trader, you can fill that entire category up. On average, that amounts to 16 HGE visits (if relog, you visit the same HGE more than once and fill up even faster). Put another way, even if thanks to ridiculous luck you get _only_ G4 mats from Dav's hope, that's still only the equivalent of an average of 5x G5 mats per run if you trade up or 10x G5 equivalent mats if you trade down. And a more realistic distribution grades make's Dav's look absolutely terrible. A single HGE is better and far more accessible. At Dav's, you feel a lot more productive than you actually are. Even the hard-to-find HGE's like Outbreaks work out pretty well compared to that.

[@technoviking2415]

I thought you would make this. I like hot jupiter better i always seem to get more higher grade mats here like chemical manipulators. And its far more fun.

[@wmgthilgen]

Because the selection is greater, and there's more to gather as a whole; When investing the same amount of time and effort, go there. I farm until I completety full, and go to a trader. One can having thing's they don't need can trade up as well as down to things they do need.

[@Mr.Thicket]

Finished getting materials for fsd and dss and power distributor. After these three and the guardian fsd booster the rest of the grind just to make my phantom a bit lighter just isn’t worth it.

[@BunkMastersGaming]

I chose Dav's hope because I hate carrying around limpets. Unless it's HGE I prefer Dav's hope. No limpet problem

[@cmdroddsockeater611]

Have you ever heard of Slough orbital in Vesper M4 system?

[@davetherave1564]

high grade emissions and trade down by far the best way for mats

[@happydaze6754]

Gathering Occupied Escape Pods at Hot Jupiter: After killing Belugas there's a bunch of occupied escape pods out there. I've added them to my ignore list, but started thinking they could bring a few pennies. Usually when you have valuable materials you get attacked by pirates. Does that happen at Hot Jupiter? I'm sure it will if I jump to an occupied system to sell them...

[@KazutoSAO47]

poor belugas...as Thanos would say, "i'm sorry, little one."

[@lucifermorningstar4503]

Blowing up ships is way more fun

[@mrmalcolm]

Or, go to Sol, scan the Nav Beacon or use FSS to find the high grade emissions. Target the one with the most time remaining. Make the long-ass flight. As soon as you arrive, fire your collector limpets. Once you've collected them, CLOSE THE GAME. Immediately fire the game back up and enter supercruise, the high grade emissions are just behind you. Collect, rinse and repeat until the high grade emissions have timed out. You'll be full of grade 4 and 5 mats in no time. Then just visit manufactured material trader and swap out as needed.

[@AnteSocial86]

Great info as always. Think I'll stick with Dav's Hope though. IMO it's way more convenient.

[@willshepherd4544]

Especially if you are antisocial.... am i right?

[@SecondhandWisdom]

@@willshepherd4544 Asocial, not antisocial. Those guys are the ones murdering tourists.

[@willshepherd4544]

@@SecondhandWisdom Well... I mean have you had to deal with tourists??? Seriously, though, I stand corrected. In my day we never really labeled people like that. We just said such and such was a loner, or didnt like groups or whatever, and we called people who murdered folks "fucking psychos"... I dunno, kinda prefer the old ways. You start throwing labels on people, you get a shit show of society like we have today where if you views aren't popular, they slap a label on you and cancel culture you out of existence. Anyways, good day to you.

[@Banzai51]

Anything to justify being a murderhobo, right?

[@Jenna_Talia]

@@willshepherd4544 The fuck are you on about

[@henryvaneyk3769]

Hi. Really would love it if you can make a video about setting up and mapping Virpil Controls stick and throttle. Just got mine this week and info is quite scarce.

[@CueDriver]

Made a video just for that. I have Virpil controls as well and you will need 2 programs to download to make all the buttons work. JOYSTICK GREMLIN, you run while playing ED. You need [vJoySetup] first then 'joy grem'. Since windows only recognizes 32 buttons. This way you make Windows recognize more buttons. Just letting you know when assigning functions between all your control you will notice 3 [joy 1] while setting thing up. be sure to take notes of what buttons you assign to what. So you don't confuse yourself. Look for his how to setup Virpil controls for ED.

[@henryvaneyk3769]

@@CueDriver Thank you. Eventually came right with that. Just be warned though that there is a download of vJoy somewhere on one of the download sites that contains a virus. You need to download the one from the SourceForge. The one from Softonic has the virus. I am sure there are other sites also with the infected download.

[@icex69rz]

Where's the best place to farm the grade 5 mats?

[@alberto3278]

Guys witch is is your favorite way to get manufactured materials? Is there something efficient like going in HIP 36601 for raw materials?

[@piketchupwarthog3574]

HIP 36601 is for raw, not manufactured. High-Grade Emission fsrming is the fastest way. I'm based off LHS 20 --> Ohm City, so Saranyu is my favorite spot as 1.) Has very high HGE spawn rate, 2.) Gurney Enterprise has manufactured trader, allowing you to restock on limpets, trade down, and continue farming. Here's my list of nearby HGE systems: - Saranyu: Core Dynamics/Proprietary Composites when state None, Proto Radiolic/Light Alloys when state Boom - LP 834-42 for Proto Heat Radiators. Not as common HGE spawn but good to stock up for Efficient Beam engineering - LP 711-32 or -43 for Imperial Shielding, depending which is at state None/Election

[@alberto3278]

@@piketchupwarthog3574 thanks mate :)

[@gabor-toth]

I prefer Dav's Hope. You just go there and scoop up whatever you find. Much less effort and possibly more legal than what you do at Hot Jupiter, Anarchy system or not.

[@mirandela777]

Another - better ! - way is just stacking 5-10 assassination missions targeting the very same faction, and use the same big, heavily armed ship AND tons of limpets. NO waiting time. TONS of materials. TONS of fun. Up to 200 millions or more, in credits, for 1, 1 1/2 hour. Your choice.

[@theprogram863]

I do the same but with pirate massacre missions. I haven't tried assassination in a very long time but the targets kept waking out on me. That plus keeping an eye out for HGE's keeps me in very good shape on materials.

[@mirandela777]

@@theprogram863 - indeed, with massacre is even better.

[@mantabloke8141]

shoot stuff until you run out of limpets and then go to davs hope :)

[@silentjay3272]

That very thought was just going through my head. now just gotta figure out what ship Im gonna use

[@redmoon383]

@@silentjay3272 I vote krait

[@melhiore]

@@silentjay3272 Python with all G4 pulses and 220limpets...

[@n0_re4lreasn.0_o7]

Someone please share a build for that!! That sounds awesome

[@zerogravity2140]

Could alway go with a type 10 full of pulses

[@johnsuri2815]

I was wondering if you know if any planets in Sol will be able to land in Sol Odyssey

[@robinrichards6275]

Also, Dav's Hope has raw material in the surrounding hills.

[@sidrat2009]

What raw materials have you found there?

[@robinrichards6275]

@@sidrat2009 it depends. sometime i hit a bunch of outcrops and metallic meteorites for higher grade stuff and sometimes it's just generic sulfur, nickel, iron, etc....but always a bunch within 2km.

[@fumpfy]

Can anyone tell me how engineered my corvette has to be to do this efficiently? I just got mine, and just finished getting professor palin to grade 5

[@willshepherd4544]

Oh hush, this comment is just a "look at me, I did that mind numbing rank grind and got my 'Vette, plebes!!!! Muwahahahaaaa!!!!!"... ok, i'm jealous. I think your vette will be a soul crusher, ur probs fine. Just look at Dave's build guide on the vette, and Happy wrecking, Commander! :)

[@soldier72]

FSD to max, thats a given, and the usual for all the core mods. Pris shields maxed out, same with shield boosters with 1-2 explosive resistances to handle the mines, lots of shield boosters. Guardian shield booster. You'll want your shields as strong as possible so you can last, even though you wont be shot at very much. In saying that, maybe go the other way and go Bi-weave for the fast regen in between shootouts.... that prob wont shoot back. That will work if you can dodge all those mines, otherwise, go Pris shields if the mines give you a hard time. 2x MCs>Overcharge>Incendiary; in the Huge slots for hull and can also help with shields, 2x Beams>Long Range>Vent; in Med slots for long range shield attack and heat management (you'll over heat with all guns and cells firing), 3x MCs>Overcharge>Oversized (one with corrosive); in Lrg & Sml slots for hull. Sensors on max, not lightweight like we normally would, so you can spot them at long range and start shooting with long range beams, and by the time you get in range with the guns, their shields should be down. "Fire the weapons" "Which ones sir?" "AAAALL OF THEEEEEM!" Scanners on fast scan if you wanna bring them. 10 secs down to 2 secs. And most important, engineer the coffee maker from 2 cups to 3 cups. You'll need it.

[@willshepherd4544]

@@soldier72 ^^^ all of the yes^^^^

[@fumpfy]

@@soldier72 thank you so much i have a good idea what to do now

[@fumpfy]

@@willshepherd4544 i never ask for help, but this game is an exception, theres so many options its hard to decide what to go for!

[@goantasebastian2584]

I think the argument is hot jupiter better cuz you can blow up ships without them fighting back

[@glasshalfempty1984]

High grade emissions beat the ever living crap out of both hot Jupiter and davs hope. A single grade 5 manufactured material will give you about 80 or so grade 1 in the same category. As you go up to grade four, that number obviously drops but even so, grade 5 materials that you can refresh by exiting the desktop and starting the game again just seems so much better. A little annoying that you have to close the entire game but a lot more materials.

[@dekkert5272]

How do Dav's Hope and Hot Jupiter compare to HGE hunting and trading down? Obviously the latter will be better for G5 mats, but for 2, 3 and 4? For reference I usually go for a mix of Dav's and HGEs - mainly for variety (might throw Hot Jupiter in the mix now). Thx.

[@ICKY427]

ive always heard high grade farming is by far better than the others. to the point where even trading one g5 for another THEN trading down is STILL better.

[@AtomicPaperclip]

@@ICKY427 I've done it and it is a HUGE time saver. I don't know why anyone recommends Dav's Hope anymore. One stack of grade 5 mats can be downgraded into full stacks of grades 1, 2, 3, and 4. Cross category downgrading will fill your grades 1, 2, and 3 inventory.

[@powerline4564]

@@AtomicPaperclip i can tell you why. When you are starting out, all you need is like 10 g3s or so. In that regard davs hope is easier i guess and it doestn involve the material trader. But as soon as you want to engineer multiple modules g5, the hge is way faster

[@Hijynx427]

Can you post the system info somewhere on cmdrs toolbox or in the description of the video? Having a hard time hearing what you're saying / reading the system name when you give it

[@DowntoEarthAstronomy]

Its in the first line of the description

[@pluxauag7555]

One Last note, as promised, a list of Materials from the BD-09 956 system. I parked at the first moon of the Main Ringed Gas Giant with an Alexandrite Hotspot. Every exit, re-enter should spawn around 7 signal sources within 1 light second (yes I said 1) of the nearest signal source. Don't bother with the DSS, unknowns on the filtered to signal sources Nav list should give you a massive list with around 12-15 within a total of maybe 4 or 5 within 10, rest within 100 Light seconds. Triple Encoded drops happen every 3 or 4 occurrences from private data targets within encodeds so those are extremely useful. The list is: Mechanical Equipment, Shield Emitters, Heat Dispersion Plate, Galvanising Alloys, Chemical Processors, Hybrid Capacitors, Salvage Alloys, Worn Shield Emitters, Grid Resistors, Conductive Components, Heat Conductive Wiring, Crystal Shards, Mechanical Scrap, Basic Conductors, Chemical Storage Unit. Take collector limpets and use them blatantly, you'll be in and out of signal sources within 90 seconds and take 30 to 45 seconds to reach the next ones. This is quicker than Davs hope this location.

[@dtarr77]

Curious, is this a PC specific thing? When I put that System in it takes me to the exact same place (compared similar systems around it in the video) but a different name and no Hot Jupiter Beacon or even a planet in the system.

[@robbetts712]

Go to that place that it is setting on and then you will have to do one jump from there from your navigation pane

[@Pro-el9gt]

i am going to this system now lets see how good is thus

[@sierraharvester]

Please compare to a haz res or comp nav beacon.

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

Dav's Hope it is! For me, at least! 😋

[@gazoutg]

why not high grade emission?

[@theprogram863]

I hate to disagree with D2EA, since he's so much more experienced and knowledgeable than I, but I don't think EITHER option is very fun or efficient. Here's how I farm manufactured mats (multiple posts follow).

[@theprogram863]

1. The Materials Trader was a game-changer. Within the same category, 1x G5 material turns into 3x G4, 9x G3, 27xG2, or 81x G1. You can fill all grades within a category, completely, with just 87 of the G5 mat for that category. Forget up-trading and cross-trading. IMO, materials farming is almost entirely about collecting G5 mats. The problem with Dav's Hope (and to some extent Hot Jupiter) is that you're picking up a lot of stuff and feeling really productive, but not getting a whole lot of benefit compared to the alternatives.

[@theprogram863]

2. The HGEs which drop the G5 mat for Composites, Shielding, Heat, and Alloys are so common that I no longer even farm them. Instead, I just set my galaxy map to only route me through Boom/War/Outbreak/Civil War/Civil Unrest systems. Then while going whereever I'm going, I make a habit of scanning nav beacons along the way. When I see a nearby HGE, I pop over there, collect the materials, and then immediately jump to the next system. If I really need to stock up or there's another HGE nearby, I might stick around and supercruise over to a few other HGE's, then be on my way. No relogging required.

[@theprogram863]

3. Biotech Conductors and Exquisite Crystals don't drop from HGE's, but they are mission rewards. I get both from massacre missions (Crystals don't just drop from passenger missions as your Cmdrs Toolbox says). Since I stack massacre missions for cash and fun already, the G5 materials are a bonus. The bonus on top of the bonus is that dead PVE enemies drop a ton of materials of all grades and categories. My combat farmer is a variant of your Cucumber, with cargo space and a limpet controller.

[@theprogram863]

4. A single visit to an HGE gives you an average of four pops x 3 = 12x G5 materials. Even rare stuff like Pharmaceutical Isolators becomes doable because a system will have multiple HGEs, it doesn't take many to get all you need, and it doesn't take many more to get all you could possibly want. The trick is to be open-minded and make a habit of watching the systems you pass through. It's easier to bump into the rare HGEs while doing something else than it is to go around actively looking for them.

[@theprogram863]

5. My conclusion is that I don't farm manufactured materials at all anymore. I focus on G5 materials and make sure to integrate the search for them into the other stuff I'm already doing. I scan systems I pass through for HGE's. I stack massacre missions and take the G5 engineering mats as rewards. I make a habit of trading down when I encounter a materials trader. I take breaks between fights while bounty hunting to scoop up materials. It's not just more productive overall, in my opinion, it's more fun. Elite has a lot of grinding, but some of that grinding is stuff we inflict on ourselves that isn't even optimal.

[@damienomen669]

How are you running three beam lasers, with all those auto cannons and not overheating?

[@fureimu_64]

Thermal vent beams probably

[@Zaggeron]

How is this different or better than just doing the same thing at a res site? Higher likelihood of better grade materials?

[@mk2design]

Pirates (combat vessels) drop other materials than transport (cargo/passengers) vessels, military and security vessels are a third source of materials. ED Engineer github.com/msarilar/EDEngineer gives you a nice overview, what material/data can be retrieved from which source.

[@laffuslmao9624]

when i search for the system of hot jupiter, it directs me to this system: COL 285 SECTOR XF-N C7-15. and when i go there, it is just a system with 3 stars and no else body. i dont know where i gotta go now...

[@JohnVideos-wb8iv]

Same. 7 months later. Did you ever figure that out?

[@oldmanquantus7080]

Are you increasing combat rank with this method too?

[@Northlander74]

So are there any guaranteed sources of pure G5 materials? 🤔

[@daddych0pchop800]

Each time I type in the right col system it ALWAYS sends me to (col 285 sector xf-n c7-15) wtf? They have replaced it on my map? I can see all other stars around me as on your screen! Relogged and it pops straight up, wonderful game lol.

[@krisbeal8173]

Can I attack ships at any planet in an Anarchy system? I'm asking because I'm nowhere near the ones you showcase.

[@jakeutley6102]

Dogtooth hights offers all grade 5 doing same grind but more combat

[@chrismitchell7066]

Have jumped into this a few and no matter what I do no ships spawn am playing on xbox but surely that's not the reason. Can anyone offer any suggestions please.

[@9Achaemenid]

At Dav's hope now.

[@sp4rt4ner13]

Alright. But what are you doing on devs hope?

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Dav's Hope or Hot Jupiter? Is it High Grade Emissions (Threat Level 0)? You need to come here in something that can take them down quickly. I just tried it in my combat Python and they always got away. I will have to come back in a Corvette.

[@SirWafflesThe3rd]

I just spend 4 hours yesterday farming Dave’s for the trip please don’t do me like this

[@SangTheCryptek]

You can do this by killing keelbacks, T6s, T7s, and T9s at any compromised nav beacon. Why go all the way out here?

[@stanleyramsrud5204]

Cuz when you kill transport ships youre a pirate, but when you kill Belugas and Orcas, you're a whaler me lad.

[@pluxauag7555]

D2EA, My question after looking around the internet is.....Is there a system somewhere in the Galaxy which has Boron? This seems to be a very, very unusual common material which is nowhere to be found, no listed information, no locations anywhere on the net after looking. My question is, Where in the Galaxy is "Boron"? Maybe Raxxla is where it's located, find Boron and you find Raxxla, who knows but just thought I'd throw that little quirk in. Yet to see a Doug DeMuro spoof of a Ship review yet. THISSSSSSSSSSS is the Gutamaya Cutter...........the door handles are oddly located next to the gun turrets, maybe the mother in law is a problem, Gutamaya's Cutter has the answer......Luggage room is good but pop the Bonnet and....We might need a Doug Score as well.

[@massimosabatino374]

can u share the coriolis of yyouor ship in this video? tnx

[@ebrietasbiscuit]

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