HOT MATCH: Chris MELLING vs. Shane VAN BOENING: 2018 INT'L 9-BALL OPEN - Plus Mike Sigel Commentary

[@MikeyD22]

My god, Sigel loves the sound of his own voice. Annoying as hell. Makes you appreciate guys like Jeremy Jones.

[@coldpressedbrickrep]

I don’t get the hate for Mike. I love him

[@kerrmoney]

Accustats deserves the recognition of an Emmy or an Oscar..... Thanks so much for years of putting out great quality matches

[@AccuStats]

Thank you! Glad you are enjoying the matches!

[@sitbackrelaxxx]

Drinking game.... take a shot everytime Mike says the word "I". RIP everyone

[@John_NYT]

i actually found sigel's commentary incredibly entertaining. it's hilarious to hear him say how he would've played every shot differently, like bro, you're in the commentator's booth, you had your time, now respect the current players.

[@gregterkanian5158]

......."but he got away with it"

[@thrashin9ball]

Only Mike Sigel could make a match this good all about himself. The arrogance is staggering. Mike, if you’re ever hurting for money, I’ll pay you to never commentate again.

[@jons2cool1]

He complains about how much luck factors into the game and then in the same breath whines about how luck is too little of a factor with their breaking style.

[@arnoldnatty8887]

Ikr, and then when one of the players makes a good shot he says “woah, that’s a Mike Sigel shot lol

[@tonym2513]

Yeah, when he tried to imply that he invented using three rail position it was laughable.

[@kiko.yamashita]

I don’t usually comment negatively on pool videos because I love to watch them so much… So I’ll make this positive. THANK GOD Mike Siegel is not a regular commentator.

[@agustinsilva2247]

I actually really like mike siegel as a commentator. He makes me laugh

[@XerosDevil]

Please... Accustats... Keep Siegel off the microphone. You'll get more people to watch your videos from start to finish...

[@markabrice]

For God's sake, Accu-Stats, please please don't ever invite Mike Sigel to commentate again. He made this match almost unwatchable. Thank goodness for the mute button.

[@ccnokia5415]

Guys, this is a great match to watch on mute..

[@budachang4496]

Gezz! Talked more than my granny! Men who talked that much are gays IMO!

[@mattfahnestock6178]

Lol. Mike Sigel is intense here.

[@maroholmes9577]

that is why the nickname of mike sigel is the mouth

[@윤동진-b8m]

Definitely yes! The comment can't follow the level of these two great players

[@rrocha61]

Mike reminds me of Skip Bayless from Undisputed on Fox

[@informedcitizen8687]

Sigel never shut up when he played and he continues as a commentator

[@alcoholya]

legend has it mike sigel still to this day is doing commentary on this match, while staring at his own reflection in a pool of serene water.

[@stevenm6200]

Haha

[@tonym2513]

Zero chance water could listen to his bullshit this long without suiciding by evaporation.

[@mudjonns]

@@tonym2513 man, that's cold!

[@lesterweinheimer665]

That is really hilarious and quite possible. Thanks for the laugh

[@kennysharp9230]

New drinking game... Mike says "I don't like that"- Take 1 drink Mike says "center of the table"- Take 1 drink Mike says "I wouldn't have done that"- Take 1 drink

[@3betpanda]

i'm fkn hammered

[@buzzly108]

Any one of those would kill you with alcohol poisoning

[@johnstorton]

In other words, just turn the bottle up until it's empty, then grab another bottle.

[@alexandpool]

I have seen this referee in many matches. He allways looks so humble and nice. And really good referee as well. God bless you man

[@AccuStats]

Kenny Shuman is that really good referee.

[@alexandpool]

@@AccuStats I totally agree 👍

[@lesterweinheimer665]

@@AccuStats super professional Kenny is a killer referee. Super professional. And appears to be a really nice guy on top of it. UNlike one of the commentators. I'd almost bet you can guess which one

[@waynejones2734]

Will never listen to another match with Mike Sigel Commentary. Nobody cares how he would do it!

[@michaelbaker5180]

This Sigel guy could send a Buddhist monk to the nuthouse.

[@cungifungi]

Great match by both players. One thing though, it would be good if Mike Sigel never touches the commentary box again. He doesn't keep up with the modern era of the game, and still so full of himself. I personally think both of these players can beat Mike Sigel even in his prime easily

[@lesterweinheimer665]

He still thinks he's the greatest player on earth. These pool players today would wear Mike out. He's so disrespectful he doesn't even learn their names. He'd have zero chance to dominate now

[@Blessed.2.Teach.4God]

Oh Mark, what a trooper putting up with Sigel... Lol

[@akquicksilver]

Pool was great, but the Sigel show was over the top.

[@stevenpalty2027]

These two would beat the holy crap out of Mike Sigel at any time in his career.

[@sherryblaylock9117]

21:40, SVB is straight in, 3 foot shot, Sigel says -- "I think he makes this". Brilliant commentary.[/sarcasm]

[@oliverkimbi4940]

I can see why Efren Reyes Beat the Hell out of Sigel during his playing Days. Sigel talks too much and sounds arrogant...

[@Strokey12]

Mike Segal is atrocious as a commentator. He does not like that pool has moved forward and players are more methodical now days. Why would someone crush the break when they can hit a more controlled break and make balls?

[@MrPugsleyCat]

The match that Mike talks about with him and Nick Varner where they both got the corner ball 21 racks and Varner misses the ball in the side pocket. I used to have that match on VHS from you guys. I would love to watch that one again.

[@TheDrewable7777]

Your watching the best in the world - It's not 1970 anymore sir, the game has evolved. Don't let this guy commentate if he hasn't watched a pool match since 98.

[@jamesdavis8731]

Jesus H. Christ Sigel can talk. My God. And not only talk but constantly brag about himself. Mike, this is not the 70's, 80's, or 90's. Or even the early 2000's. Pool has evolved and you simply act like a dinosaur. You were a great player for your era but, honestly, I do not think you would be a top 25 player in today's game. They would outshoot you and outsmart you in today's game. But I do agree with one thing: get rid of the jump cue. In fact, get rid of jumping all together. It takes away from the game. Make guys kick out of trouble. That is more skillful.

[@kafkaesque44]

to add to all those who commented - if the people in the crowd wearing headphones are wired to the commentary we heard, look at the couple on the right of the player when he is breaking (wearing black), sharing a red pair of earphones. after about 20 minutes, they turned sigel off.

[@andyfranco7019]

When Shane hit that 1 ball and got 4 rail position on the three, Segal claimed that was a shot he started. He called it a Mike Segal shot! He said he didn't think Shane was that knowledgeable. I think it was the first shot in game 3. Segal is like scratching nails on chalkboards!

[@tonym2513]

The combination of how much Mike talks and how negative he is makes this video grueling. He really turned into a stereotypical grumpy old man. I’m a half hour in and it felt like at least an hour.

[@johnbarrington2526]

He just never stops talking

[@spencermullenaux5642]

I just went to the comments to see if anyone had the same opinion as me.

[@crownstupid]

Mike "the mouth" Sigel

[@spencermullenaux5642]

@@crownstupid Great player. Not my favorite commentator.

[@STEVEAUTISM316]

Mike is so full of himself it’s unbelievable.

[@brycedawson6951]

Mike had me dying😂😂 definitely a different style today

[@lesterweinheimer665]

To hear Mike Sigel talk you'd think he's never missed a ball. Efren Reyes annihilated him in an 8-ball match for huge money and he couldn't make a shot. It's constantly mispronouncing Efrens name. Going to have a talk with Shane after the match and tell him how to play pool . Such a braggart it negates all of his previous titles in my mind. Doesn't even know who Jason Shaw or Chris melling are. I'll bet he never has a repeat customer as a fishing guide. Hopefully they take their sound blocking headphones when they go fishing with him and catch their 40 to 80 huge 3 to 10 lb.bass everyday.B.S. Supersized EGO!!!! He's a legend in his own mind. Saw him in person in the 80s in Dallas and he was a prick then to

[@mannymurillo4706]

The way Mike boardline talks down to Shane as if hes not arguably the best player in the world is amazing to me. “He couldve shot that a little better” as Shane gets perfect position and speed..

[@Poolhawk]

MIke Sigel is the only Player, who never made a mistake

[@spaceage1213]

Man wtf y'all talking about Sigel had me laughing the whole match, it's like nothing looked right to him, everytime Shane shot he had something to say, this guy is hilarious he bitched about his break everytime, he literally had me tears in my eyes. 🤣🤣🤣😭

[@julianxuls]

Full video watched muted

[@robpaultog]

Enjoyable match..... If you watch it on mute!

[@sherryblaylock9117]

Sigel: "Now what happens there?...it's call your shot?" Wilson: "No. This is 9 ball."

[@Blessed.2.Teach.4God]

Mark is doing all he can to tolerate Mike... (and so am I, yikes).

[@jvasquezito]

Omg Mike Siegel shut up already. Really annoying as a commentator. Awesome match though! With audio turned off. Haha

[@jbillyt]

Please don’t ever use Sigel as commentator again! He ruined a good match.

[@theawesomnes3848]

21:36 mike said “who came up with that rule gotta love mikes attitude I’m not even being sarcastic I love his personality when being a commentator he’s not scared to speak his mind

[@Northof49th1]

It's obvious that Mike hasn't watched pool in a long time. The reasons for different rules than when he played is because players are better today. They are better offensively, defensively, they have better fundamentals. And speaking of fundamentals, along with better equipment, they generate more power in their stroke. Which is why, along with faster cloth, they don't need to spin the ball as much. SVB and Melling are world-class players (and play more than just 9 ball), even though this wasn't their best match. And just my opinion, but I don't think Mike, or many older players or fans, can let go of the past. They think that their generation of players are just as good, or better than today. That's just rubbish; ego talking mostly. In all aspects of competition where some type of athleticism is involved (yes, even pool), players today are superior than the previous generation. Bigger, stronger, faster, smarter. That's just the way it is. As far as pool is concerned, today's players would destroy the best players of the 90's and prior. The older players are just out-matched in all aspects. (And I watched many matches in the 80's and 90's (ordered many VHS from Accu-Stats back in the day, and still enjoy watching older matches.) Maybe Reyes or Strickland would do alright, but fact is, it's a global game now. Europeans with their snooker background, Asia too. (Last year Gareth Potts ran 8 racks of 9 ball in a row on a chinese 8 ball table. Goes to show how awesome these guys, and girls, really are.) More players, more competition = better pool, and that's a good thing.

[@EliJolleyBridge]

Yes, you can see Mike's egoism shining through the whole match. He doesn't listen or let Mark talk. And I agree, why put more spin on the cueball than you need?

[@AlexZander688]

Players like Efren Reyes, Ronnie O'Sullivan have shown the greats can maintain playing great across several decades. Old man Bustamante took Shaw to 10-10 hill match earlier this year at the Derby City Classic on the 10' foot table. I think some of the greats from the past could have adapted to today's game.

[@adamzellweger2021]

It was bad enough listening to Mike Siegel while he was playing, he's even more insufferable as a commentator.

[@castileofleon]

Mike siegal most famous words " this is" " I don't know what he is doing" "ahhhh" " He needs to spin the ball more"

[@kethhekel]

So I came to the comment section to share my opinion on Mike, but it turns out I didn’t have to. Glad all the commentators aren’t like this.

[@sonnyf1745]

JJ #1

[@shirsendubiswasshaon2861]

Mike shouldn't do commentaries

[@tyler755]

As much as people are complaining about Sigel's commentary, I honestly believe that he gave the most insightful information of any caster I've listened to on Accu-Stats. He may talk about himself way too much, but if you want to learn a few things from professionals, Mike definitely helped you get there

[@fuadabrahams208]

i loved when efren reyes wiped the floor with mike sigel.

[@mikehopkins7384]

Does Mike ever stop talking lol

[@spaceage1213]

I want Sigel to commentate Efren's matches. 🤣

[@lukezeus1790]

Mike's commentary was basically him saying he's better than svb or chris melling (dont get me wrong mike is a phenominal player, but it's just the way he does the commentary where he sounds like what both of the players are doing is always wrong)

[@kchiang4]

There's always going to be players like that in the pool room too. I hate those kind of players.

[@saifulbordeaux3890]

I swear to God Sigel has at least 3 mouths

[@catfishhero8850]

Sounds like Siegel doesn’t keep up with pro pool these days. He was learning as he went here. At the beginning he says he don’t like it he wants to see offensive pool. Then when they got the break working and started running out he said he don’t like it, it’s not fair. Interesting

[@9BallBory]

The 3 balls must pocket or go past the headstring is to stop the soft break how does mike not know that

[@restorick2378]

Does Sigel "like" anything? Either get with the modern game or get off the commentary.

[@miamiwax5504]

My ears feel like they just ran a marathon 🤣

[@jonathondillman8522]

Mike was a good player, a great hustler, and a complete jerk. Now all he has left is that god awful ego.

[@ericsampson2650]

his jealousy of sbv is overpowering. "women roll, men stun the ball"

[@starlincruceta1008]

Pleaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssseeeeeee Mike make pauses and let our ears 👂 take a little rest of your voice for ones in your life. HlS

[@MrJohnson141]

I understand Mike Sigel has won many titles. But boy he is full of himself.

[@tonym2513]

Back when pockets were the size of trash cans and running three racks was super impressive. Mike never was shit in actual pool, but a clear legend in his own mind.

[@RByrne]

Jesus christ, Sigel makes this all about him and his career. Does he realize he's not the one playing?

[@ReadySetFreedom77]

Exactly they should replace Siegel with Strickland

[@soulmusic775]

Mike Sigel made some great calls on position and in my mind he is still a legend. His mind is geared for pool. I love him as an announcer. And I'm hope he stays relevant as long as possible. Kudos to the players and announcers.

[@craiglivesay6521]

I'll give props to Mike's lung capacity lol

[@AccuStats]

Hee hee hee... :)

[@JO_Artificial]

hee hee hee, dude talks too much.

[@vitoscalleta9814]

Melling is a British pool player. He never relies on the side rails for helping the balls in because the cut on the pockets in British tables are so tight so they have to be very accurate

[@JonesyNorthmen]

I wonder if Segal agrees with the new breaking rule?

[@johnstorton]

I don't know what rule you're talking about, but I'm sure Mike would not agree with it.

[@ashhadgull4905]

Nice video nice commentary can you share videos of Mike sigel vs earl Strickland

[@alexxanthopoulos6251]

Never heard worse commentary

[@davidbehrens4760]

Nobody: Mike Segel: bACk iN mY DAy

[@AdamTreier]

"Yeah, it was a normal thing for us to run 7 or 8 in a row. You would run 4 and miss, I run 6 and miss, and then I knew it was over because you only need to run 5." /facepalm

[@brandonthomas3757]

Adam Treier yeh because they were playin on a table with 5-1/2 in pockets 🤣

[@nwmowalleye76]

I would like to hear how the conversation went after the match when Siegel was going to tell Shane he needs to spin the ball. I bet Siegel talks in his sleep. I feel for you Mark since you didn’t get to say much during that much Mike was even answering his own questions .😂 But still a great match!!!

[@Mickster114]

huh i just noticed emily frazier in the background. I think this was right before she started doing big things for pool with matchroom. Cool to see her spectating a match before she became who she is today for pool lol

[@FirstWayHockey]

Mike segel had a great career. Wonderful player but what is coming out of his mouth is... he predicts always after the facts and... he is so proud of himself. It should be the reason why he is not ask as a commentator. It is sad because he has a lot of knowledge to share is this game.

[@mikemcnamara3750]

Great match and commentary thanks!

[@Joshua_t_]

Silence is golden

[@sociologie4507]

Mike you a legend, but as a commentary, well, you could still learn a lot

[@tonym2513]

He basically does the same thing when he’s playing. I don’t think he’s ever had a thought he didn’t immediately voice.

[@dannyberkabile265]

The magic rack is great to make sure all balls are touching, but in my looking at KZbin 9-ball breaking videos, very little difference is needed between balls to make a big difference in where a ball ends up going. Not only space between balls but slight differences in orientation of balls make big differences. With magic rack, the balls are forced together by the template meaning more pressure between balls is created as opposed to no pressure without the template when balls are just touching. This has got to make a difference where the balls travel after the break. Has anyone even thought of this?

[@EdwardFaust-p5n]

Dude won’t shut up. It’s not his game and that’s all I’m hearing

[@9BallBory]

For mike everything is just easier now, he’s so good everything must just be easier now. I can’t stand him sometimes, great player but a huge ego.

[@troylaxin7100]

I play pool like Mike. I always win unless the table and balls are against me.

[@MrJdsenior]

Yes, and what exactly do you think that percentage is, where they are "against" you? ;-)

[@supermingsu]

Please get Earl back.

[@tonym2513]

That’s an entirely different KZbin account with Earl doing the commentary. Accustats is Mark Wilson’s thing.

[@iwillriseagain1118]

Damn, I'd really like to watch this match, but I'd have to do it on mute because Sigel is unsufferable.

[@Undermin3d.]

Accu-stats. If you guys want people to continue to come back and watch these matches, ya'll have got to be better at picking commentators. Mark is a fine commentator, Mike on the other hand..... Being a hall of famer doesn't make you good at talking.

[@dustinchouinard8128]

Why is sigel commentating he is a clown who thinks he knows it all

[@lukezeus1790]

Exactly

[@DJKW905]

everyone with the headphones on in the first row, are they connected to the commentary?

[@thrashin9ball]

Yes

[@albert333pool]

21:37 "Who came up with THAT rule?" Mark Wilson thinking... "Me" LOL

[@hendrasetyawan4077]

Please explain me about chris's breaking rack no 4

[@der1narr]

i prefer Danny over Mike commentating.

[@tonym2513]

Danny is old and can come off as a carmudgeon, but he knows what he’s talking about. Mike is as cringe at commentary as he was at pool. Pure chump.

[@johnDoe-ue2xr]

I prefer the drunk guy at my local pub over Mike

[@dennisschell5543]

Mike the Mouthpiece....ANNOYING 😠

[@joerobertson7887]

Tried to watch but Mike Sigel is too much to take. Bucket mouth.

[@Lauranyyfan]

Mike Segal should NEVER commentate!! How frick'n annoying...every shot, he complained....oh that wasn't right...I wouldn't have played that!! Go back to fishing.... You're a total turnoff to listening here!!

[@grafton2]

1:41:03 how was that a compliant break?

[@thenattyprofessor9569]

Screw job

[@waynejones2734]

It wasn't but luckily Chris won that rack anyways!

[@joshuamartin6457]

The reason they create the”three ball needs to go pass the head string”beacause of people like corey duel

[@paulromancampos8901]

Good one!! 😂😂

[@duffyrobert19]

I don't know what you mean with the phrase 'like Corey'? I'll tell you this, the people who get beat by something new and either can't, or won't learn it, cry to outlaw it. Sad, little people!

[@parashararamesh4252]

@@duffyrobert19 i think this is referring to the "soft break" which Corey perfected.. He figured out a way to rack it and hit slowly such that the wing ball goes in leaving a 9 ball combination shot with the 2 or 3 ball and wins a rack in 2 shots

[@FirstWayHockey]

True that Mike Siegel he is full of himself but we can learn a lot from him.

[@pjtyra2106]

Can’t stand him, personally.

[@MrJdsenior]

I think the best comment of the entire broadcast was @ 1:51:13 with something like "when your opponent leaves you that, you love it...when you leave it for yourself" (not so much). THAT is actually something worth thinking about...makes looking at leaving the rock a bit wrong like that on rare occasions a different (more positive, better attitude, better chance of sinking) taste in your mind. I think I'll take that with me. I'm GREAT at beating myself up for those. ;-) Melling claps the table twice for Shane's shot...then the face at 31:03 REALLY says it. That was a BRUTAL safety, about the only thing that could have made it worse would have been to lock up the cue against one of those blockers at bad (good?) angle. It was amazing to me when Sigel said "Who came up with that rule?" concerning the three total past plus pocketed on the break. Man, he is really out of touch with recent pool, and the other guy later agrees. The reason was breakers were soft breaking (one in particular..cough..Duel) and he was just DOMINATING everything with that break. In eight ball he developed a break where the opponents balls would be a little knot and his spread over the table...why they can't pattern rack now, either. Sigel doesn't realize there was a very good reason for that rule, and that Cory is very very smart, especially when it came to developing killer break strategies. Not a bad rule, a GOOD one. Van Boening is another breaker at that level, he ENDLESSLY practices them, I think I saw him once say TWO HOURS a day, just breaking. Maybe a "small" hint how important breaks are at this level??? ;-)

[@josheisert8380]

Another great pool match with miserable commentary. I didn't mind Wilson but I only made it to rack 3 before I had to stop. Segal was hurting my ears.

[@ebuzek3648]

Did anyone keep track of how many times Segal said "Lets see what he does".

[@Dee-hi5zj]

A COMPLETE MISMATCH!!! Mike Sigel and Mark Wilson I mean. I permanently lost respect for Mike in the King of the Hill match with Efren. Totally a rude dude. Mark - sorry I couldn't hear more from you. I'm sure glad for whomever invented the mute button on my remote!

[@ponchoalfonso21]

How was rack #18 ( Shane breaking on the hill) a legal break? He only made the 2 ball and only one ball (the 6ball) went over the head string. How is that a compliant break???

[@AdamTreier]

It's 3 - pocketed - crosses headstring > 0

[@AdamTreier]

I watched that shot, you are right... He only made 1 ball (I misread what you said, thought said he made 2 balls, not the 2 ball).

[@Permik123]

Chris probably put Shane back on the table. He has the option.

[@WELLBRAN]

I enjoyed the match but turned off the sound I could not stomach the commentating quite stupid just talking over the game and ruining it

[@kmanpilkers]

What a load of irritating and sexist crap on the commentary. Ear scrapingly awful!

[@shortymack340]

I think mike be exaggerating just alil bit 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@Tannerbandaner]

Yea but who’s the blonde sitting behind melling?

[@edgerat]

Emily Frazer from Matchroom