Hot spinning a new product on my lathe?

[@TimothyDyck]

UPDATE: So I guess I wasn't alone on this one eh? SOLD OUT! You all rock! Thank you to everyone who placed an order! I am looking forward to building these guys for you, and will get some more in stock in January 2023!

[@hannable3871]

Holy crap that was fast I just went to the site and gone guess I shouldn't have finished the video maybe net the time. Tim I think you might have something here bud fingers crossed.

[@calholli]

One thing you can do to punch these out quickly is to preheat your discs.. Just lay them on your wood stove so that they are already hot when you first put fire to them-- or you could even have them slow heating in your forge, so that once you throw them on the lathe and put the fire to it, it should already be ready to start working it.. Then you could punch them out at a much high pace. You'll just have to handle them with tongs since they are hot; which is nothing new for you. Cheers.

[@81selfmade1]

4 hours and sold. Disappointed haha. I'll definitely order a couple when you have more

[@SpuddyLlama]

I didnt see this comment before I went to the website and seen they were gone already, dangit. Not surprised they sold out quickly as because they look incredible and also the price isn't bad at all when you consider the time, resources and risks involved.

[@calholli]

@@81selfmade1 This was just a trial run to test the idea (plus he promised to get them out before Christmas, so he didn't' want too big of an order. I'm sure he'll take a preorder list on the next video.

[@woud99]

Love the product and love to see you iterative process. I also love your statement about price "I'm a blacksmith everything I do can be done cheaper, they are buying the process" I do leather work and do everything by hand and run into that same issue with pricing. Thank you for making that clear simple idea that it isn't just about the product that you are selling but the process and work that you put in to it.

[@ronsimpson143]

Hammer out a handle and silver solder it to the side. The rough finish on the cup would pair well to a rough hammered finish.

[@kasnitch]

Great idea .. I would purchase one of those .

[@bulldozer7656]

We all love you Tim. Great creativity and drive. Thank for bringing us along. I bought your first candle. Definitely very cool. And I'm over 50yo...

[@TimothyDyck]

Thank you! It really means a lot to have you supporting me and my family!

[@grantriehl200]

Woohoo! Another build vid! Great to see it. Can’t wait to see what super creative stuff you will dream up in your new shop.

[@miked.9364]

Here's an idea for ya Tim....... Whisky Tumbler. Make you candle here the same size as a whisky tumbler. That allows people to use them as they see fit. Keep filling it with wax or, fill it with whisky.

[@WayOfHaQodesh]

Amazing creative craftsmanship on display. Loved the candles....

[@amsmithonline]

I love watching the creative process at work!

[@kzarnold3678]

I really appreciate your creativity and craftsmanship. You are also a man of good character you understand the value of a your time but still keep the value of your customers dallor in mind. Good time's nicely done.

[@bulldozer7656]

Thanks!

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

I'll have to wait till January I see. Looks like a winner Tim! Great idea.

[@verdantpulse5185]

Re the cracking: wax shrinks a lot, roughly 10%. Figure on multiple pours as the norm. Makes for some interesting mechanisms. Auto engine thermostats and automatic greenhouse vents are actuated by wax volume change on melting.

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Awesome Job timothy. Keep Forge Lit. Forge On. God Bless.

[@PingDK1]

That candle is FRIKING AWSOME you could also make a bell out of it too 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗

[@Excellmetalspinning]

Just came across your channel, we use the Metal spinning process using purpose built lathes 😀 using heat is so important for certain materials and material thickness to help them form!

[@MrHitman47pb]

That would make an awesome cup or mug too! The candle idea is epic too!

[@Vikingwerk]

Really neat product, i think you could even do a multi- wick arrangement, still use two of the big wicks, but parallel to each other instead of overlapping endwise.

[@stevebrown3159]

I love the candle thing. The whole hot spinning process is fascinating. I happen to be a Potter, and you're right, it's an oddly similar process. It reminds me of pottery too! When you tapped that cup with your finger and it rang out it made me think of bells. I like bells. Bells are good. I'll bet I'm not the only one out here who likes bells. Keep up the good work. Craftsmanship is important. Thanks for your great videos.

[@TalRohan]

all the best ideas come along like this...awesome new environmentally friendly product

[@JeraldDelventhal]

Looking forward to the restock of the candle.

[@itatane]

Looks like the beginning of a nice mug, Mr. Dyck. I reckon if you want, you could forge a handle for it. Something that hooks over the top of the rim or goes around the bottom. Like a Bormioli espresso cup.

[@evebrassard3105]

Love it. At first, I was also seeing a medieval wine goblet. Sorry I missed the release of this video, can't wait until January to order late stocking stuffers Lol

[@jasonlopez75]

Thats a great idea with the candles. I'd buy one.

[@TheFarrier]

I didn’t know I needed one of these 🕯️

[@hartlieb1]

this is so cool and so spontaneous! I ordered one, part of my Timothy Dyck collection!

[@davidsnyder2000]

That a beautiful candle Timothy.

[@davidsnyder2000]

When making the bowls and candles you kept mentioning it reminded you of clay….it reminded me of something also, but I couldn’t think of the name… But Rea Dunn. Those products made of pottery clay……bowls, cups, etc reminded me of what your making in metal, Totally awesome Timothy👍🙂

[@FZR650]

I need a large frying skillet. 18” round and 2.5” deep with a rim angle around 15 degrees. And long handle.

[@FireCreekForge]

I think if you got some stainless steel discs you'd have some pretty cool cups if you tack on a handle!

[@guatBush]

Ooh, now I want to try making some ceramic thrown candles. Ideas!

[@geoffheith]

Love that Tim! Great work as always!

[@bfg1637]

I used to have a candle making biz when I was younger. My brain is exploding with info and cool ways to manipulate wax. Your not alone.

[@benjaminpolson30]

Absolutely awesome would love to have a set of hiballs like that.

[@georgekirkaldie5603]

Just bought one. It will go good next to the bottle opener I got last year

[@Noginblue81]

Hi tim To help with the cracking if you cover over the candle while letting it cool it should stop the cracking

[@garetkonigsfeld2]

Next to the axes. In my opinion these are one of your better projects. Really cool job. Thanks for sharing 👍.

[@andrewneilson227]

Very cool! Couple of thoughts.....mokume gane or damascus steel would loom so cool in a bowl/cup

[@bocajred11]

Just bought one of your candles, it is well worth the price to own one of your pieces. Looking forward to getting it.

[@armandbarbadaes9827]

Cool coffee cup

[@_bodgie]

I like it too. A citronella blend would work well for the summer months.

[@tonyrobbins6714]

6:23 Could be good for a small camp stove, boiling water. Just attach a couple places for some tongs/sticks to hook on to and you'd be set for boiling water on a small fire.

[@Hydrazine1000]

As for the wax cracking issue, try to let it solidify with a cold bottom while keeping the top warmer. So after you've melted the bees wax, take the cup out and put it on a thick metal base plate while you also put some insulating cover on top. This works for large ingot casting, so it might just work for wax casting too. (Though that's just insulating the top, not putting it on a metal base)

[@r3nmgod]

He should have also kept that very small amount of wax unmelted on the edges for insulation so its not hot to hold

[@nealc5579]

I melt wax for making wood polish in an old crock pot I bought at a thrift store, melts well and doesn't make a mess of the stove.

[@JakeWellstattoo]

Looks like a good start to a bell.

[@bigbird2451]

That's the first Square Space add I've ever sat through. Well done Sir. And yes, great idea. I'd sign up right now if I had the extra cash. As a poor college student in the early 90's I used to heat my room by candle until I almost burned the house down. It was a huge 100mm sucker that I would leave lit while I was at class and it would be livable when I got home. But I guess there was an air bubble and it melted out the side. Luckily it burned itself out. I came home too; a melted candle, thick char marks on the furniture, a puddle of green wax on the carpet and smoke damage. But horror story aside, that thing is sweet! It must throw out a ton of heat! (While carefully supervised of course.) But what if it gained a bit of stability to help against spillage? Three little legs or a small flat plate under to store other aromatics? Cone incense or sage or roaches or what not?

[@GordonSanders]

Darn... already sold out. Well done Tim. I guess I will have to wait til January

[@htownblue11]

Tim, love the candle idea man. You are a skilled artist with metal bro. Bravo.

[@angrydragonslayer]

i fully get your dilemma and agree with your opinion i could probably make something very close-looking for maybe $10-15 (at scale) but doubt it can get that same feeling

[@White_devil1980]

It’s a cool new direction for your shop 🥰🥳

[@TheWhiteWolves]

wow that sold out fast, guess ill have to wait for next year, great looking product you made there tim

[@dirpdanger8839]

I would totally buy a candle holder with a raw edge. They look awesome.

[@stevenaubin74]

Those sold out fast.... Amazing. I've always wanted Al Bronze dishware... But I'm not there yet. I've made lots of Al Bronze soo far but only in coins and bars.

[@VeX-hr8yr]

Been looking forward to this 🤓 , amazing candle holder would love one but the shipping to the uk kills it lol. Love seeing this creative

[@hatchet0711]

I’ve never used bees wax but I used to leave about 10mm from the level I wanted and let the wax harden and pour in more wax to the level I wanted and then put aluminium foil on the top and that stopped the shrinkage for me 👍

[@FeuerToifel]

someone probably pointed it out already. but if not, the cracks form cause the wax shrinks when it cools off. it probably could be avoided if you pour wax in layers instead of filling it all at once. ofc that would make it even slower.

[@edb3366]

awesome new idea!

[@dhgodzilla1]

@6:05 it is a literal Goblet of Fire

[@FeelingLikeThatNow]

I think if you add the wax in two stages you could deal with the cracks. Fill it most of the way first stage, let it cool and crack and then pour a small amount to finish the top off and hopefully avoid cracks in the top.

[@bigc7t]

Nice big cup.

[@joshclark44]

These are awesome! Such a great idea! I like that you did some science and experimented with the size of the Wick and the bowl. Did you try using the cross shaped wick? I think that might make a bigger flame and get it hot enough to have a wider radius too. I think the bowls came out really nice although I'm not a fan of the irregular top. What you could try though, after you turn the bowls, is forging little details around the edge to make it wavy or put a bunch of corners on it so it's curvy star. Maybe try seeing if you can make some horizontal grooves in without deforming the bowl shape. It would be cool to see you forge the molds that you bend the bowls around too. The tooling that you use to make it. I'm not surprised a mere 20 sold out already tbh and I think many people would be interested in more lol maybe open up some pre-orders so people could at least order them as Christmas presents and have something to say "it'll be coming soon". I don't know how long it'll take you though so that'll be up to you. Maybe show off your website where you sell the bowls with that fancy squarespace tool I've been hearing about 😉

[@tripsauce2462]

Just found your channel recently but I just want to say that I think your content and attitude is wonderful. Keep up the great work

[@jakekerr1189]

That is a cool process

[@sircrutch]

Hey boss man! These look amazing! I won't be able to get any until April though :( fingers crossed the hit off because I am hoping they are still selling then!

[@Lynkah]

I love it, I'd buy one and use it as a cup afterwards or just a container for nicknacks on my desk. Something like that!

[@fifty-plus]

This would be an awesome coffee mug.

[@henniebasson515]

Nice! Only to far for us in Africa. Suggestion: What about small rocket stoves! Kind regards.

[@gabrielc6252]

15:00 why don't you put the wax inside while it is still hot? will melt and also cool it down

[@Woah-Ninnick]

I want that as a mug

[@Moondog-wc4vm]

I reckon that is the holy grail of candles. $100 is a bit expensive though, for that price I would like four candles. No matter how much spin you put on it. 😉

[@chrisallen2005]

None for you then. Off to Walmart.

[@Moondog-wc4vm]

@@chrisallen2005 lol! I like your reply. It’s honest and true and well intentioned. You may have missed the gentle irony and pretty strong references to very strong comedy sketches however. Maybe I should have also mentioned lumberjacks considering Tim was talking about axes.

[@Protocol-X]

You should look into building and induction coil heater that can be used to heat the disc's as you turn them into candle holders. You could set it up on the same side as the torch, and ilt would be much cheaper, and safer. It would limit your raw material selection though. Also the cross wood wicks work better imo.

[@chrisallen2005]

@@Skedge Where is here? He lives in Alberta, Canada.

[@drthmik]

@@Skedge it isn't the gas that pumps the cost he mentions in the video that it is the Oxygen

[@drthmik]

@@Skedge it doesn't matter what you meant, it is the OXYGEN he is adding to the gas to increase it's temperature not the gas he is burning

[@FullSpeed_only]

Multiple (Propane) Torches with compressed Air instead of a single one with Oxygen might work out.

[@BernardSandler]

Gorgeous. Love the organic forms. You know, turn that over and you could create the core of a windchime of deep sexiness. I'd absolutely love to see you do a series of things for the garden. Candle, windchimes, trowels, small rakes and hoes. Gardeners are sentimental folk who like things that last. Good market.

[@matttaylor2747]

or a whole set of table ware plates, bowls, mugs, cups, etc

[@afg122602]

wow. sold out in 2 hrs? awesome

[@dantone1952]

Spin some Dutch ovens and frying pans ! They will sell better then the candles I bet ! Mini Dutch ovens would be a unique item !

[@auroraborealisknives4019]

With this technique you could make Viking style ale mugs 👍

[@DragonsFireMetalWorx]

I'm never disappointed when I see you're sold out Tim...that just means your stuff is top notch...and I have to be quicker 😂... I'll keep checking in 23'

[@otterconnor942]

With bees wax, it needs to just barely be molten for pouring, then it needs to cool slowly.

[@Makesmefeelgood]

Oh man! I want one!!

[@OOOHBILLY]

I’ve had metal candle holders. Hate to say, I’m not a fan. You can’t light it and take it into another room with you if you wanted. Unless you also make a wood base for it…could be epic. Otherwise, it’ll be way too hot. Edit: after watching, your wax didn’t melt on the sides, which could be useful in insulting it.

[@ulrichmachtle4864]

the cup is cute, try more. or is it a bell for a windspiel? bcs of the nice pinnnnnnggggggggg

[@trevorchouinard7474]

Hey Tim! Really neat concept, especially since I've got some experience with metal spinning. Would making a mandrel to turn aginst be helpful? It would likely take away some of the individual uniqueness each candle has, but in my experience it could be faster, better tolerances and maybe bring cost down. Plus I think making a spinning mandrel for the candles would be a neat video.

[@TimothyDyck]

Very cool, have you ever spun hot against a mandrel? Does it work well?

[@trevorchouinard7474]

I have only done cold spinning. I started with thin laser cut disks and slowly worked them into cones. A roller on the end of the tool with some anti cease did the job. Definitely need to build up a feel for the process. I imagine heat is essential for thicker material.

[@calholli]

@@TimothyDyck One thing you can do to punch these out quickly is to preheat your discs.. Just lay them on your wood stove so that they are already hot when you first put fire to them-- or you could even have them slow heating in your forge, so that once you throw them on the lathe and put the fire to it, it should already be ready to start working it.. Then you could punch them out at a much high pace. You'll just have to handle them with tongs since they are hot; which is nothing new for you. Cheers.

[@calholli]

@@trevorchouinard7474 It's better with the wild nature of each piece, rather than injecting uniformity into the equation. I honestly think that would take away some of it's value, IMO.

[@trevorchouinard7474]

I completely agree. I figured I'd throw it out there to address the high price concern, if there was any.

[@armandbarbadaes9827]

Can you make those flat plates out of Damascus then spin them into a coffee cup

[@B.McAllister]

You should try making goblets or tankards adding a handle to it. That would be awesome.

[@deemstyle]

It's a bit outside my price comfort zone, if I'm being honest- but I *do* very much think the concept is a winner and hope you sell a bunch of them. The fact that you even tested it and adjusted for better performance says all. Great work, even though I'll not likely purchase. Good luck!

[@TimothyDyck]

I totally understand, thank you for being here and watching!

[@eulerizeit]

Have you considered using metal shapped differently. you could have wonkey cool corners

[@jameslebner4247]

Shipping to Australia is as much as the candles. Sorry Tim. Not this time. Super cool though. Would love to have one!

[@chrisoliver1327]

Cool ideas!

[@gemmaallen437]

when its hot, can you use a brass tipped forming tool to lay down a "golden" ring?

[@derekhartley4480]

Hey Tim, how do you feel about the idea of a hot spun stainless glass or mug? As always, great work!

[@glennwiebe5128]

Hey Tim, I've been a blacksmith for over 10 years. However, due to health issues I've not been able to make it my life's work. But, all excuses aside, I'm groovin' to your candle project since I've had so many wonderful things that forked magnificently to something else. My question, which now sounds so pedestrian, is what, at 8:35, are the two nearly identical machines against the wall near the compressor?

[@andrewcotterill7863]

They are upsetters for upsetter forging

[@mike1877]

would it be cheaper to buy a bar of round strock, cut it into size, and lathe out the pocket?

[@caseyleedom6771]

I've seen this kind of process being done before, but believe it or not, without heat. They use a tool like yours, but with a roller on the end instead of just a hunk of raw steel. That doesn't leave quite the markings that your process does though.

[@caseyleedom6771]

See for instance this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4XdpZ-mdsicptU

[@onestopfabshop3224]

Make a type of metal strap for a tea cup handle. That'd look cool.

[@ltwade8522]

Yeah, love the candle idea, but you could also clean up the edge... not too much, add a forged handle, and bang!!! Coffee mug.

[@fharelson4]

I’d pay $100 for that. Big candle geek. This is badass. Perfect man candle. Can’t wait for the restock

[@r0llinguphill483]

What type of steel is the bowl and can it be seasoned like cast iron so it can be food safe?

[@ericwhitmire4610]

You could treat it like scentsy and make most of the money on refills. It would be a high initial cost to consumers but relatively inexpensive to buy refill kits.

[@josiahruss6963]

Hey Timothy dyck what about putting a handle on them? Make a mug?... Just a thought

[@White_devil1980]

I’m watching this on dec 3 it’s a great new idea if you put the steel pot in a saucepan with a bit of water to bring it to a low boil to heat the bees wax to get rid of the cracks 😏

[@therealme613]

Don’t you need a bearing to push on and form the metal so it spins with the rotating material??

[@marvinkuhn2873]

Have you considered an induction heater to use with the lathe?