HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 1x1 "The Heirs of the Dragon" Reaction & Spoiler Discussion!

Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon is finally here! The story follows the House of Targaryen 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones. Starring Paddy Considine, Matt Smith, Emma D'arcy, Rhys Ifans, Steve Toussaint and Eve Best.
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[@0721trb]

the city watch scene was exactly an eye for an eye situation. Hands were taken from thieves, dicks from rapers, and lives from murders. Im excited to see what Matt Smith brings to the Rogue Prince

[@jasonthompson1604]

Could do with a bit of that justice in this world

[@mikered1974]

@@jasonthompson1604 its already happening in Saudi arabia and Afghanistan under taliban.

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@jasonthompson1604 absolutely not

[@jasonthompson1604]

@@AllTheArtsy why not

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@jasonthompson1604 because it's not justice. it's just violence. no human rights. no due process. you think you want this, but wait until you are brutalized by the state with no recourse, and think if you want that in this world in this era

[@zawa7497]

The scene where the hand of the king sends his daughter to the king definitely has a deeper meaning to it but it's also a fact that Alicent used to attend to the good King Jaehaerys when he was sickly and old to help him wash and dress and read to him.

[@yolandapaulino5952]

Yea in the books, remember this is the show

[@SunShine-ve5nr]

Ya. It was only after the queen died. Otto had other motivations.

[@d3vp131]

Let us enjoy this show for the show please.

[@AllTheArtsy]

Reading and attending to a senile old king with an heir and multiple children and grandchildren is not quite the same as "comforting" a relatively young king who has no sons. Otto was pimping Alicent out, or at least beginning to. There's not any other way to look at that scene.

[@sarwatarannya8786]

@@d3vp131 we all know what happens when the show runs out of source material. The only reason these are good are because it has the extensively detailed story of the books to draw from

[@brianwahinya1245]

You guys are right on the money about Daemon.He really loves Viserys,and vice versa,but they'll never say it.Their actions towards each other speak loud though

[@StopReadingMyNameOrElse]

You can tell when he was yelling at Daemon they both didn't want to be in that situation with eachother.

[@aranielleb7718]

And he adores his niece as well.

[@theawesomeman9821]

Viserys is an idiot, always listening to crafty advisors and a jerk for denying his brother the rightful succession

[@AllTheArtsy]

Viserys is insecure about his place. I think he knows Rhaenys has the stronger claim. And even among Baelon's children, Daemon is the one that cuts the figure of Aegon the Conqueror. Plus the fact that he rides no dragon, and only once ever rode on Balerion when the dragon was ancient and dying. Daemon wants his brother's love and esteem. I would be so angry, too, if I knew I was a competent warrior, a natural leader, a loving brother, but my brother chooses to humiliate me with petty positions and listens to an outsider from the family instead

[@chemerej]

“ chaos is a ladder” Otto is giving strong littlefinger vibes Daemon is gonna be a stand out character

[@100EmotionalDamage]

Otto is more like Tywin lannister mixed with littlefinger...Dude's scary!

[@ctpLynae]

Glad I am not the only one who was getting Little Finger vibes from Hightower.

[@mitjahladen6699]

He seems kinda boring to me. He doesnt have the evil vibes that someone like cersei had.

[@chemerej]

@@mitjahladen6699 I think that’s why I like him. He’s a subtle insanity where as we knew early on that Cersei was crazy lol it’s always the quiet ones we gave to look out for

[@BaTmanWhOPlay]

Otto is Big brother of littlefinger Middle finger

[@Rambaldichick]

I didn't want to see the birth scene, either but I appreciate how they foreshadowed it at the beginning when the mother said that the child bearing bed is a woman's battlefield.

[@ina1994]

Im glad they showed it, so people open their eyes to how gruesome things were for women back in those days, she's not even getting to know what they are going to do to her, no choice, nothing. I think it might be an eyeopener for some people. I've seen scenes like this before where the man chooses between baby or mother, and they dont show how grusome it actually is to choose the baby over the mother, which makes it seem less horrible than what it is. This situation is ofc a bit different, as they said both child and mother would die. Idk if they actually meant "both would die or only the child could live" or if the mother actually could be saved if they removed the baby through her normally, but the child would die).

[@Rambaldichick]

@@ina1994 Yeah, I think the Queen was going to die either way. But I was like, dude, at least knock the poor woman out. Why keep her conscious? Just brutal!

[@Siddharth-94]

Baby would have died because of too much milk of the poppy ​@@Rambaldichick

[@timothypolanco8622]

Daemon Targaryen aka the Rogue Prince was my favorite character from the book, and WOW !!! Matt Smith really hit it out of the park with his portrayal of the character. I knew Matt would do well base on what I saw in the trailers, but lord his acting of the character has been perfection in my eyes.

[@stephenking5852]

Can you explain what Daemon is like without spoiling much? From I can tell, he seems like a Targaryen equivalent to Jaime Lannister.

[@sandeepsingh-er8wr]

@@stephenking5852 George RR Martin said that Daemon Targaryan is his fav targaryan. So you can expect the unexpected. Daemon targaryan has some similar characteristics to Damon Salvatore if you know him.

[@choilma7353]

@@sandeepsingh-er8wr what ahahaha but aight

[@sandeepsingh-er8wr]

@@choilma7353 'SOME SIMILAR Characteristics'

[@Ashley_e]

@@sandeepsingh-er8wr actually good comparison. Another is Charles from Black Sails.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Fun Fact: The Throne in this is actually closer to how the book describes it. Nice reactions. Peace ✌🏻

[@Kratosx23]

It wouldn't be Westeros without a "We don't need to see this" moment. 😂

[@ousmanjallow7866]

True

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

or several

[@ncard00]

I can see why you’d ask if Rhaeneyra and Alicent are just friends, but many girls are often very close like this, hugging, sitting closely together, bathing together, and alike, even if there’s no sexual or romantic tension at all. But I think there easily could be, also cause girls mature quicker than boys, but either have to wait long for the boys to be ready for the sexual stuff, to have the experience, or do it with boys quite a bit older than themself. 2 girls can easily just start exploring each other without any romantic feelings, just cause of their friendship, and cause it feels good, wish more people would seperate love, sex, and having children more, cause these 3 things don’t have to have anything to do with eachother at all, and it’s much healthier if they don’t.

[@ivanttulern.1416]

3:05 the Hollywood thing, no not really. They've just finally made the throne accurate to the books.

[@AceHufflepuff]

That birthing scene man. And knowing that women go through that today....sure there are things that can be taken to make sure women "don't feel a thing" but sometimes it doesn't work, so you feel everything. That look of absolute betrayal when she realized that she was going to be murdered....what sucks is she would've said yes if given the choice. But she didn't have a choice.

[@billytessio6326]

There is a massive difference between middle age “science” and what we have today. Women do not experience barbarism like that today in hospitals. Know your facts.

[@tomasalarconchible9729]

@@billytessio6326 and you need reading comprehension. women can still feel an insane level of pain during child birth

[@MrBrock314]

@@tomasalarconchible9729 Additionally, not everywhere has hospitals. So, there are still places in the world where women do go through childbirth without any pain medication (also, those who are opposed). I don't know of any C-sections without much painkillers but I can imagine it's possible in places where medical equipment/hospitals don't exist.

[@zagat2]

@@billytessio6326 oh look - we have another man explaining the pains of child brith to a woman. Why dont you just sit this one out? Women to this day are consistently misdiagnosed, mistreated and misinformed regarding their condition or of prospective challenges during childbirth. The exact same version of barbarism may not be there but women are often put into surgeries when they’re not required, have their pain thresholds ignored and quite often have their needs completely superseded by those not actually involved in the operation of childbirth.

[@IndigoDaisey]

@@billytessio6326 Look into the rate of infant mortality and the rate of women (especially those in lower economic levels) dying in childbirth. Pregnancy is still one of the most dangerous times in a woman's life, even today.

[@amithraj490]

I will not be surprised if hand of the king is the "Little finger" of the house of the dragon.

[@mrHunleashesHELL]

boy are you gonna be on point........just watch few episodes and you'll see what i mean...

[@fayetopias]

You’re going to hate the Hightowers

[@PeaceOfMind8190]

Littlefinger + Tywin

[@herozero7484]

Nah littlefinger is a league of his own at least in the books

[@stannisthemannis7779]

Yeah, he could be, but I think a more accurate comparison would be Tywin Lannister.

[@jayz3272]

George has said that his favorite Targaryen is Daemon and from reading the books, he is gonna steal the show. Expecting him to become everyone’s favorite character in the future

[@theperson8539]

Which book is he in? I'm partway through Fire and Blood, and I think it's still recounting Aegon's conquest at this point.

[@DonHbankz]

Yep 100% I can’t wait for him to do some of the things he does especially in later season when *** happens

[@rzv7758]

@@theperson8539 Thats the book his talking to. The book covers from Aegon's conquest to the events of the show.

[@theperson8539]

@@rzv7758 So it covers the entire Dance of Dragon’s conflict?

[@rzv7758]

@@theperson8539 Yes, and a little more after that. Its a fantastic book.

[@thedarkknight2221]

So on the Inside The Episode feature the show runners said that even though Daemon is murderous bastard and an all around prick that he genuinely does love and care for his brother and his niece. Which I did see. Yeah he want the Iron Throne more than anything but I think deep down he doesn’t want it if it means the cost of his brothers life. Also as much as I disliked the cutting between the scenes of the tourney and the birthing I understand why they did that. Emma said that giving birth is a battle, and she was right.

[@gudhaxer41343]

Well he's had many chances to have him killed so that speaks volumes.

[@manvirshergill1739]

I don't think he actually wants the throne tbh, he just enjoys the attention and the chaos he creates because he sees people for who they really are particularly Otto.

[@mooma0912]

Daemon never wanted the Throne imo

[@agresticumbra]

What stuck out to me was that the tournament arena was shaped like a vulva.

[@ideozublake8036]

i get Loki/ Prince Zuko vibes from Daemon. we might start off hating his character but as the series progresses, we might start rooting for him due to an arc change i feel.

[@sunnydub107]

I’m glad that although Daemon and his brother disagree on everything he eavesdropped on his brother defending him from the Council.

[@vd4538]

I would give this episode a solid 8/10. Very dark, nostalgic and the cinematography is just amazing!

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Same. It's about an 8/10. I'm not giving it a 9 or 10. It's just slowly setting up the conflict.

[@roddur1000]

9.5/10 for me, i love this slowburn dialogue heavy stuff. The only flaw to me is the prophecy being on the nose at the end.

[@Blinkptx]

9.9/10 For me, but I'm a fanboy so take that how you will. If the show was Hodor and Groot having a conversation with the GoT music playing I'd still give it a solid 7/10. Lmao

[@ankursin]

The brutality also 😢 They literally chopped the queen alive like a piece of cake 😭

[@lgt_jne]

@@ankursin thank God were not living in this time period 💀 imagine being the first few people who experience this without anesthesia

[@AllTheArtsy]

Oberyn's death, what Joffrey did to Ros, the entirety of the Red Wedding and all gruesomeness of Game of Thrones aside, I think Aemma's birthing scene is so effective and horrifying because of the intimacy of the moment. She is not in a trial by combat. She is not at war. And the man effectively killing her is the husband who loves her, but also the husband who bedded and got her pregnant at age 13 and who was so in want of a son he kept on getting her pregnant despite multiple miscarriages. The fact that she was not even told. That she died screaming and afraid. The fact that women, today, especially in developing countries, still literally risk their lives to get pregnant and give birth. It hits too close to home. It's too real.

[@mr.plutomartian431]

In developing countries, i hope you are also counting USA where women have less rights than piece of metal.

[@JessYapping]

@@mr.plutomartian431 you can watch something so gruesome and still compare your pity party to it embarrassing

[@handa_panda]

@@mr.plutomartian431 That right there is one of the dumbest comments on the internet people, a typical ignorant American response, comparing the women in US and third-world countries about their rights. Bruh, travel more please.

[@fangko9935]

@@mr.plutomartian431 lol western woman are the most entitled humans on the world, wtf are you talking about?

[@theanirudhagnihotri]

If u don't know... let me tell u that the maester told viserys that he could either save his son or can't save both. So, what he did there, any father will do the same (I hope) who knows the bond between a child and a father, or at least experienced it. He didn't do that to save his "son", he did that to save at least one life, he did that to save his own child. In my case, if I chose my wife over my son... she and I both would never forgive myself for that decision, and that's the bonding parents have with their child.

[@kristi4113]

Daemon Targaryen is a LOT of things, but a bullshitter is not one of them. He thinks Viserys is weak because he won’t rule like the Conqueror did, with threats and fire, but that’s exactly why everyone fears Daemon because he would. Maegor was a horrible King, a horrible brother to Aenys and a horrible man in general, so the Council sees a lot of Maegor in Daemon’s thought process. So much had to happen to bring the Targaryens to Westeros with Daenys the Dreamer’s dream of the Doom, Aegon’s conquest all the way to Daenerys. Elissa Farman stole Dreamfyre’s eggs from Dragonstone, and those three eggs ended up with Dany at her wedding to Drogo. Viserys told Rhaenyra that a Targaryen, with their dragons, is the Realm’s only hope, and that’s exactly what happened.

[@jmoneyextreme3843]

Yes I agree on prince daemon a lot of people try to say he’s meager the cruel but daemon never once ever fought for the throne even in the books he never fought for his sole purpose he could have killed his brother and taken the throne he could have did a bunch of stuff but he didn’t he just feel like Targaryen should be loved and feared and he was that balance that is needed that is how the world is today leaders are they should be liked by their citizens and feared by their enemies. I don’t really get why viserys just went off what Hightower said 3 people like come on they can be lying or he can be lying the king shouldn’t just went off of that. I feel daemon would have been a great king and viserys is pretty much an average king to say.

[@jeffreygodinez9276]

that is ehy during the interview of Goerge R.R Martin of all Targaryen's, Deamon Targaryen "The Rogue Prince" is he's favorite character because Deamon is unpredictable

[@awesimo4684]

"Maegor was a horrible King, a horrible brother to Aenys" How do you figure he was a horrible brother? Aenys couldn't have stayed King for more than a few weeks without Maegor fighting (and winning) all his battles for him. They had a falling out when Maegor was Hand because Maegor took a 2nd wife.

[@kristi4113]

@@awesimo4684 You do know that Maegor and Visenya are the REASON Aenys died, right?

[@awesimo4684]

@@kristi4113 No I don't, because they are not. The sickly King died young. Maegor was still in exile when Aenys died, so I'm not sure how it can be his fault from all the way in Pentos. Maaaybe Visenya did kill him, but Aenys was already sick so it hardly needed some grand conspiracy to explain his death. And even if Visenya did kill him, Maegor is not Visenya.

[@jeffehren]

As someone who never watched GOT, I am glad I can watch this series along with everyone else. I am excited to see how this goes!

[@S_K_J]

That Dracarys gave me chills whole over my body.

[@jLachelle3]

I believe Daemon was being genuine to his brother and meant it when he said he would protect him.

[@RaMraM-zm1el]

I kinda have a different opinion in how you guys see Daemon. There subtleties on the acting of Matt Smith that says otherwise

[@_lime.]

For the record, Daemon wasn't just randomly getting the Gold Cloaks to butcher people, they almost certainly declared a curfew, anyone out after it is by virtue a criminal. All of the punishments they're doing are relatively historically accurate, for example cutting the hand off a thief. I should probably mention that Otto Hightower clearly has other motivations. Daemon mentions that he is the second son of the Hightowers, he is not the Lord Hightower, he has no holdings of his own. Everything that Otto gains he must seize for himself. He's successfully become hand of the king, but by sending his daughter to the king, he could become the grandfather of the future king, and will presumably remain as the hand, allowing him an insane degree of power. Short of somehow usurping the throne himself, that's the closest he's going to get to ruling. Originally Otto wanted Rhaenyra to become the queen should her mother not birth a male heir, this is because his daughter Alicent is incredibly close to her and could be used to sway her. Now that the current queen is dead he's attempting to install Alicent as queen, an even better outcome for him. Granted this is all speculation.

[@abadyr_]

The council said it was a roundup of criminals

[@AnxietyRat]

@@abadyr_ yeah from what other people have said the gold cloaks KNEW who the criminals were... but the king hadn't told them to do anything about the known criminals in the city and so Daemon was like "hey guys let's go fuck these known criminals up, please." And so they did. That's how they knew which criminal had done what crime because they had kind of been keeping track of it but hadn't actually done anything about the individuals.

[@sioparr]

Good point about the prophecy of the Song of Ice and Fire essentially dying with the Mad King. I never even thought of that, had the succession continued traditionally without a rebellion maybe they would have been more prepared for the long night

[@dillonmartin5102]

Daemon not evil. He’s just ruthless asf. He also does love his brother and his niece and he wants the throne but not at the cost of his brothers life.

[@vickster5001]

Surprised so few people immediately see Otto Hightower is clearly a manipulative snake like Little Finger. He’s keeping the brothers apart, keeping himself close and is now lining his daughter up for the king. I expect the king to regret not having his brother close.

[@prathapkutty7407]

The score at the end was beautiful. Easily Ramin djwadi's best work yet.

[@RSmith-wd7zr]

🍜 ?

[@jaisandhu4966]

if you thought Game of Thrones was brutal, wait for House of the Dragon. Fire & Blood (the source material for this show) is SUPER bloody and unfair

[@ankitdubey459]

Ok creep don't destroy the show for us with your vast knowledge

[@agresticumbra]

Do you not remember Cersei and Jaime Lannister, in s01e01, boinking each other in the tower? Jaime then pushes Bran Stark out a window. Not bloody or gory, but violence against a child. Tyrion was also with Ros, but that was post-sex. GOT Kings Landing regularly had sex scenes in brothels, so seeing some in e01 didn’t surprise me too much. Daemon’s sex scene was supposed to be awkward, because he’s stressed/worried. He puts on a brave face, but he has emotions & thoughts that weigh on him. Stress triggered ED. Fun times. 😕

[@DonHbankz]

So a few things The throne in the books in way bigger way more swords and is really towering, in the show esp GOT it was obviously reduced down for practical reason this throne is more accurate to how it is in the books, second Otto the hand is doing that as a power play he hates daemon and at present he is the heir and has the strongest claim. If he can get his daughter to seduce the king esp in this low and weaken state he can virtually become as powerful as the king and if they give birth to a son he will become the new heir eliminating the threat of daemon becoming king. Another point yes Daemon is this macho cheeky pushing the boundaries almost prideful and egotistical kind of guy he actually really cares about his brother and niece and you would see that. I think you should pay attention to the fact we never saw him say the quote because if you remember before it cut away he was very uncomfortable. With Alicent apparently in the chapters this show is based on she is older and she previously helped nurse the previous king, the one in the opening scene when he was dying which is added context to why her dad sent her in the books obviously his own reasons as well added to that(seduce, marry produce a new heir gain power and influence). This show is definitely one where you would need to rewatch it fully to get the full scope because there are even more players coming more twist and turns and time skips which will definitely disorientate you especially if you aren’t clued up like book readers so if you feel confused or lost it’s ok, just know it’s going to be really really incredible and exciting.

[@ninthefrog3911]

The episode was beyond my expectations. I’m obsessed again.

[@Alejojojo6]

Rhaenyra is like Mary Tudor, she was the only daughter of her parents out of many stillborns and miscarriages and she was a woman. If she had been a man, she would have ruled uncontested. She even had a brother (Prince Henry) who lived for 40 days. Very similar to this.

[@keremels]

The Targaryens are famous for having incestuous relationships so the queen's stillbirths were most probably a result of that. I was so disturbed with that scene as well. She didn't even have a choice.

[@GreenFalcon926]

She would have chosen her baby anyway. What sane person wouldn't?

[@azealiabanks5969]

@@GreenFalcon926 its still a choice she deserved to make, plus theres already been a history of stillborns so she would have a very good arguement to save herself

[@-_YouMayFind_-]

@@GreenFalcon926 Well I dont think so in this way. Who wants to be tortured. And you are a guy. She would know the child probably wouldn't survive. After all the pregnancies that she had previously. This was not surprising it would go wrong. They didnt even knock her out. They just made her go through this. Its very obvious when she was screaming no that she didnt want it or at least not when she is still awake.

[@GreenFalcon926]

@@-_YouMayFind_- She was confused and scared, and you're right, but still, anyone would have chosen to save their child over themselves, regardless of the situation.

[@fantasiybooks3691]

@@GreenFalcon926 I would save myself rather than get cut and gutted alive so call me insane idc

[@ArchitCSE]

I am loving your innocence ! You guys really dont know the story which is going to come forward...

[@jackson857]

Everyone seems to hate Daemon. But he speaks truth. #TeamDaemon

[@ladyhotep5189]

I love his character already.

[@viktorstagnetti7491]

Love Daemon. I'd trust him far more than Otto. At least you know what you're getting with Daemon. And he's absolutely right about the council preying on the weak King Viserys.

[@roderickburdett-coutts6432]

When the king was discussing Aegon's dream, he had his hand on the dagger, that Arya killed the night king with.

[@anainescarvalho9937]

The throne in this show is more accurate to the books then the one in Game of Thrones

[@michaelleung4816]

At 6:17 the announcer at the tourney is wearing the Blackfyre sigil, a black dragon on red.

[@AnimeGod501]

the Show isn't set in the year 100, only the beginning scene which was set in the year 101 but the show doesn't have BC - Before Christ /AD - Anno Domini dating system instead BC - Before Conquest/AC - After Conquest, Westeros is Continent in Medieval Fantasy World inspired by Medieval Europe but manly England, the calendar dates are completely different to our World

[@needfood3052]

I still love the back and forth from the jousting and the child birth because the queen told Rhaenyra that childbirth is THIER battlefield, it's absolutely perfect. We watch every ounce of violence when it comes to fighting but childbirth we look away.

[@maxmayfield1637]

I'm telling ya, I already fell in love with Daemon. I have a feeling he will steal the show. I love the first episode, and I'm sorry so glad we're back in Westeros.

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

if you know him from "dr who" then you know he is good at this sort of thing

[@maxmayfield1637]

@@futuretimetraveller8677 Yeah, Dr. Who and a brief role in Terminator Genisys and Morbius. He's pretty good at this stuff.

[@jackson857]

12:20 You're not going to believe it. But she's 22. Milly Alcock, who plays young Rhaenyra, is actually older than Emily Carey, who plays young Alicent.

[@prathapkutty7407]

How old is Emily?

[@annevergara7220]

@@prathapkutty7407 19

[@matthewlee4697]

Facts 💯

[@justinperrone3885]

Quick note: OTTO Hightower is the WORST. He is a not an ally whatsoever. Not even to Alicent

[@tomasalarconchible9729]

That’s a spoiler

[@buzzardbeatniks]

Thanks for the spoiler, just ruined a part of the show fo me. I mean only one episode in and people are already trying to ruin this experience.

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

@@buzzardbeatniks yeah i've seen several such comments; whatcha gonna do...? 🤷🏼‍♂

[@cherrypi_b]

Interesting take regarding the princess's wishes. I think she absolutely has thought about the possibility of becoming queen. But she respected the views of her father (and the general customs) over these thoughts and accepted it as unrealistic dreams.

[@BarelyA1ive]

Jabys smirk at the end lol

[@Blinkptx]

It needs to be next Sunday already!! I'm so happy with the first episode. Feels great to be back in this world. 🥳

[@jefferymojo3761]

Young Princess Rhaenyra (Milly Alcock) is 22yrs but looks 15yrs. Back in those days girls were women at 13yrs,he sent her comfort the king in hope he will take her and she get's pregnant. There will be a time jump cause Olivia Cooke is playing the older version of (Alicent) hand of the kings daughter. Older Rhaenyra is played by Emma D'Arcy, time jump could be 2nd or 3rd episode.

[@Rigomortis84]

Rhaegar DID know about the prophecy. He just always assumed it spoke of him. I think at some point he realized it was about his offspring. Azor Ahai would be of his line, but then there's the whole 'The Dragon Has 3 Heads' thing...

[@childrenoftheabzu]

Not necessarily, Rhaegar had a dream about the prince who was promised. He diddnt know about the winter or the others because of a family prophecy handed down. He knew about the prince because of the legends from the east and his dream led him to believe it pertained to him or his child. probably why he pursued a stark.

[@thefatman2780]

I WISH YOU GOOD FORTUNE IN THE WARS TO COME

[@mcfearsun]

I love the contrast of the wife’s birth against the brutality of the men fighting. I was captivated and horrified at the same time

[@targaryenXoolf]

Being a guy who finished Fire and Blood, I am just gonna say y'all in for a friggin treat! The Alicent Hightower and Rhynaera story is mad crazy and can actually feed about 3-4 seasons easily.

[@KenFromchicago]

It could be even though they are all part of one family that they are like the Starks, where they have split up and spent lots of time in different corners of the world and reunited with different dialects. They also might be doing some code-switching, where you talk one way at work, another way around your parents, another around family, another around friends, another way online, etc. I'm also reminded of Mark Twain saying about characters in his books all doing bad impersonation of each other's Southern accents but rather that they are different dialects of Southern accents, just like there are different ones in the West Coast, the Midwest and the East Coast. As Achara can attest, there is more than one "English accent" but various ones, Cockney, Royal, Received Pronunciation (RP, that news readers often use on the telly news programme), etc.

[@dillonsass6609]

Jaby couldn't watch the birth of the baby scene lol😄. I watched it with my eyes wide open, afraid I missed something 😁. This first episode was good and hopefully it gets better 👍

[@lgt_jne]

Same hahahhaaa

[@ina1994]

How is that funny? I understand her completelyl Literally nothing to be proud of being able to watch it with wide eyes open. Understand that you dont wanna miss anything, I just feel like ur "lol" and ur emojies are out of place here. It was supposed to be a grusome and disturbing scene.

[@ankitdubey459]

@@ina1994 it was an awesome scene loved it

[@ina1994]

@@ankitdubey459 It was both horrifying and a good scene in general to show how women were treated. If you didn't find the scene slightly disturbing, u must be a psychopath. The point was to show how grusome that procedure was back in those days.

[@invictafilms2690]

Apparently in the book GRRM wrote, Rhaenyra was names heir to the Iron Throne at 8 years old. But the actress that plays her is Milly Alcock is 22, so she’s probably closer to 18 in the show. And there’s gonna be a time jump at some point so there’s an older version of the character too.

[@beantownbrandon302]

FANTASTIC EPISODE‼️👑⚔️🔥 WELCOME BACK THE KING

[@TaeSunWoo]

Crazy part is that Aemma(Rhaenyra’s mom) wasn’t old. She was 23/24. She had Rhaenyra when she was 15

[@davidjones272]

To be fair the first episode of GOT features 2 decapitations, an incestuous sex scene and the defenestration of a child. It's pretty violent. That said, expect the level of violence in this story to increase as it goes on. No spoilers, but early in season 2 you should get an event that will challenge the Red Wedding in terms of brutality.

[@CinePals]

Yeah, all the things you described feel very, very tame in comparison. I knew to expect violence but definitely went above anything I could have anticipated. In particular the birthing scene and the town scene with Daemon's soldiers.

[@viper56tl36]

“Are they all criminals” yes. Admittedly it’s a little hard to pick up on especially on the first watch where you’re trying to absorb all the information but he has round up all the known criminals and cut the hands off thieves, the balls off rapists and the heads of murderers

[@centripetal6157]

Otto Hightower is like Littlefinger 2.0 - he wants power and will manipulate people, Daemon is like Tywin Lannister: cold and ruthless but honorable as well

[@mygreentopiary]

Re: comments about the dangers of child birth and the violence of jousting, etc. I totally agree. I do want to point out that the show is a fiction-fantasy so it is not historical (no dragons even in the early centuries in our world). HOWEVER, it is based or partly based on events during the medieval period in Europe making the child birth and jousting, etc. true of the time. More particularly, the time of the Plantagenets (Wars of the Roses).

[@mutalemulenga6635]

they are just best friends....things will get interesting soon

[@BLINDER-di6nm]

Yo to be honest ,when I saw the Tournament of Lance for the first time ,I was like dude can you even see in that helm? I know that helmet or helm is to protect your face and all but what good a helm if you can't see in it? 😂

[@melissaisloud7404]

I’m so glad that HotD got the throne right! It was so much more magnificent in the books then in GOT. This one is much more reminiscent of book canon.

[@CameronJamesPhillips]

The way I look at it when it comes to the accents is not everyone lives in the same area. Paddy Considine is the most isolated being King. Daemon rarely spends time at court. He spends more time in the city as he's commander of the city watch and that night with the gold cloaks was their first night as the gold cloaks I believe. Where he's been elsewhere is the Vale. So all those areas would affect his accent different than his brothers. And as for all the lords. Everyone is from different lands so the different accents are all normal sounding to me. Also it's Milly Alcock not Emma D'Arcy, she comes in later in the season when the time jump happens. And I honestly wasn't really paying much attention to her sounding all that different from Paddy. And personally for me I kind of like when there's a wide a variety of accents with every character. So long as not like too wildly different. Like it would be weird if one brother was English and the other was Irish. But this show I think has casted it solidly well

[@S_K_J]

When I finished GOT the very nxt day trailer for this was released.

[@calm1047]

The King realize that his son wasn't supposed to be born the way it happened and his daughter was a better fit to rule.

[@Ashley_e]

I don’t think Daemon wants to be king. He just wants his brothers love. To be by his side.

[@newtjorden1957]

Milly Alcock, the actress who play young Rhaenyra, is 22

[@matthewlee4697]

Yup!💯

[@L2L732]

14:51 Because he's the hand of the King and he obviously wants his daughter, Alicent to be the new Queen and take advantage of the King being emotionally unstable to have her latch on to him and set her as his first pick and when the issue of getting a new wife comes up in the royal council.....

[@CameronJamesPhillips]

Not gonna lie. It's when Alicent picks at her fingers I have to look away. And only then.

[@itskashkashi]

I do this unconsciously, a type of BFRB. No cognitive behavioural therapy in fantasy fiction unfortunately lol

[@emmanuelmalcom6409]

Guys please watch Emergency Awesome episode breakdown to get clarity on anything you're unclear about

[@fallingintofilm]

They showed the body of the baby before the dialogue. Not sure why they were surprised when she said dead brother lol

[@SE-gs6gd]

For the birthing scene I wish they would've told her what was happening. She could've decided to save her child. it is possible to deliver a breech baby vaginally. Theres always the risk of not being able to drop the head down but even the head can be delivered using different techniques positioning etc that would've given both a better chance at survival. Cutting someone open like that is essentially death and should've been something she could've have acquiesced to.

[@bullsheet88]

I agree with jaby, otto was my favourite this episode

[@stevenspringer1599]

Paddy Considine - "Dead Man's Shoes" 2004

[@dylerturden8018]

15:45 perfect transition

[@daredevil2315]

Alicent will marry the King, and have two sons with him who will fight for the iron throne with Rhaenyra. And Rhaenyra going to marry her uncle Deamon.

[@divinenb4133]

The actress is 22 now so yeah probably 20/21 when they were filming

[@Redfield982]

I love your discussions! But for the record Daemon has always been GRRM’s favourite. This isn’t recency bias, he developed Daemon when preparing the background lore for A Song of Ice and Fire.

[@cloud2451]

Love this show already

[@American_Outcast]

Did Anyone else Noticed ? That Achara Sounded a little bit like. The Stereotypical Western Showdown Whistle song. At (min., sec.) 6:15 - 6:16.

[@tammyk2447]

Just found this..... LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Smiley-ps1yc]

27:10 hehe iam really sure You will keep watching it Jaby Koay ! Because you are already sucked into it too deep 🤣

[@mitjahladen6699]

For me personaly, noone will ever match the evil of cersei lannister. I hated her so much and i loved every second of it.

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

she was awful indeed so beautiful and so unbelievably evil

[@clueless-lassi-joins-internet]

*_The Throne_** Is More Accurate To The Books Now!* *Isn't Rhaenyra Targaryen Supposed To Be EIGHT YEARS OLD?? (Daemon 24)* 😳🤢 *I Mean BOTH THE Girls Are Of Same Age! Even If They Are Supposed To Be 14 (Not The Actresses But The Characters) That Makes Daemon 30 & Viserys I 44? (Unlike The Book Where The Age Difference Between Alicent Hightower & Him Is 10 Or 11 Years!) The Changes In The Show Are STILL ICKY!!* 🤮 *10:27** - I Feel You Jaby, I Just Skipped So Many Parts, Paused Numerous Times Coz... I... Just... So... Ughhh!!!!* *I Hated The Books For Similar Reasons, But Dang! The Show Is Even Harder To Watch, It's Not That The Books Or Shows Are Bad Per se, (Overall It's A Damn Good Series Either Way & All In All Love Them But) It's Just That The Chages Are More Sinister, Vile, The Gore, The Incest & The Icky Subject Matters Were In The Books Too, But Watching These Scenes Are Too Horrific & More Pronounced Because It Is Not A Passing Line In A Book Anymore, It Doesn't Stay With You, But Here It's The More Fleshed Out, Overtoned, Version That's Attacking Your Visual Senses, Which Makes It Too Barbaric & Difficult For Me To Watch!* 😩😫 *Winter Is Coming **_Goosebumps!_*

[@stephenking5852]

14:17 A Feast for Crows.

[@테스트유튜브배우-x5c]

i always miss song of game of thrones it's so nice. episode 1 was good start big story. it's very nice

[@mike90317]

The GOT's fandom has risen once more!

[@Luzarioth]

I can't say that I enjoyed this episode, but this feels like a good Show :)

[@huntress647]

I also cried when Aemma was given up. I thought Viserys would be a good character but…

[@missliss2581able]

In fairness to him it wasnt an either or choice. It was both of them die or we can try to save the baby. Aemma was going to die either way because the baby was stuck (they could have knocked the poor lady out tho)

[@huntress647]

@@missliss2581able fair point

[@manavkhandurie]

in reality to him it was the realm or his wife.He as a king choose realm

[@mooma0912]

There is no good or bad characters in the Song of Ice and Fire

[@dgrmn12345]

@@sree9121 Yet it plays to its themes regardless. Here there are no heroes. Only people. Where good men die and cunning men triumph. Where there is no black and white, only grey and ambition.

[@LaColombiana.88]

L'intrigue est intéressente même si on sent à plein nez ce qui pourrait suivre ... on redoute la violence et la mort à chaque recoin le générique de fin accompagné de sa musique trop de souvenirs de l'ancien GOT 😭

[@rjnnandan7967]

15:45 is "That" happened between them in this scene???? I'm confused.

[@DonHbankz]

Btw the woman daemon brought to touch the dragon is his lover but she is more like his wife/gf that can’t be made it officially if I remember right he confides in her a lot in the early periods

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Isn't Rhaenyra already 15 in the 1st episode? In the books, she was 8 when she was appointed heir. She wouldn't change much in 10-20 years if she starts at 15. Why hire two actresses while using the same actors for the male characters? Milly is 21 when this was filmed. I understand casting Emma because she does look like someone who had a few children while Milly looks too young. Paddy looks way older than being 28 as Viserys. In the books, he marries Alicent just a year later after Aemma died. Alicent was 18 at the time. Alicent is supposed to be 9 years older than Rhaenyra. I figure if Rhaenyra is 15 in Ep 1, Alicent could still be 18 or 24. I don't see it with the latter. Writers probably adjusted their ages for the show. Viserys is probably much older than 28. Then Alicent and Rhaenyra are much closer in age for the show. Most of my knowledge for this show comes from reading Wiki of Fire & Ice for each major character. Not from the books. I still like to keep myself clueless enough to be surprised from each episode. I'm starting to understand Daenerys getting killed off. We knew it wasn't going to end happily ever after with her nephew ruling by her side. It's Game of Thrones. Not a 90s Disney animated movie. Monarchy really does suck. Watch The Crown 👑. You get roles simply by birthright. Not because you actually qualify as a great ruler. Had Dany ruled, she basically has a nuclear weapon 🐲. It's like if Superman or Homelander wanted to rule our world. So I get it why Dany was killed off. Targs are just too powerful thanks to their dragons. I still didn't agree how it got there. She was kinda losing her mind before S8E5 (worst-rated GOT episode) but it still felt like she turned to evil too quickly without much explanation or build up. Still no excuses for bad writing and I was never a Dany fan. HOTD will end better thanks to original source being completed. Daemon Targaryen (AKA Rogue Prince) is going to be popular among the male viewers. He's GRRM's favorite. He's like a Gray Jedi or maybe worse than that. I hear in the books, they're all bad people. Even Rhaenyra. They're all ruthless and conniving. Don't be fooled by Olivia Cooke's good looks. Alicent is not a sweet character. So far, I like Daemon, Viserys, and Rhaenys. Mostly just Daemon. He's like a cowboy. Viserys seems like a good king. Hates conflict. The show's version doesn't seem like a pushover like in the books. Rhaenys ("The Queen Who Never Was") who narrates at the beginning seems like a strong female dragon rider and wise woman like Olenna Tyrell. I'll enjoy her more as the season progresses. I have no problem with a Black actor being cast as Lord Corlys, her husband. It is weird seeing blonde dreadlocks. But in GOT, many of the Black actors were pirates and sellsails like Salladhor Saan.

[@lgt_jne]

Same thoughts

[@missliss2581able]

GOT always aged up the adults and children. Ned Stark was about 35 when he died in the books and Robb was 14/15 when he was waging war. Dany was 13 at the start of AGOT. For television purposes they aged up the kids to make the situations they have to go thru more palatable to the viewers and thusly have to make their parents older as well

[@FuzzygamingRP]

A black valyrian makes no sense based on the discription of the people, it just looks super out of place, but i am getting used to it as the episode goes on

[@lgt_jne]

@@FuzzygamingRP same and I'm confused because didn't they want to keep the bloodline pure .... Idk plus they'll have kids that are half half so it's confusing

[@FuzzygamingRP]

@@lgt_jne yeah they did, but most of the other casting is brilliant so im looking to look over it, ser christian cole is amazing cast in my opinion

[@marquisberry1501]

I locked myself in a echo chamber now read my mind.

[@cherrypi_b]

It's a bit funny that so many reactors say something like "back in those days" :) Of course it takes stuff from our past - but it's still a fantasy story, folks. Just shows how into it the fans are.

[@peteperkins3859]

Daemon isn't evil. He knows the Hightowers (along with the Citadel) have wanted House Targaryen and their dragons destroyed for centuries. Daemon is one of my favorite characters in the entire ASOIAF universe.

[@jayantasarkar2532]

Yes, but 170 years latter a Hightower gives his life alongside the the greatest warrior in history to protect the family of a Targaryen.

[@peteperkins3859]

@@jayantasarkar2532 And which Hightower would that be?

[@jayantasarkar2532]

@@peteperkins3859 Ser Gerold Hightower died fighting alongside The Sword of the Morning (Ser Arthur Dyane) defending the Tower of Joy against a young Ned Stark, Howland Reed and six other soldiers.

[@ShoNuff3K]

She's 22!

[@bensonfang1868]

The iron throne looks more like the throne from the books

[@Ms.Byrd68]

It was not childbirth. The King gave the Maester his permission to MURDER his wife in order to save his son! The only person who can change a murder into a SACRFICE is the *_person doing the dying!_* Even in the Medieval Times it was not uncommon for them to wait until the woman died NATURALLY and THEN try to save the child. I've only seen ONE reactor so far that isn't WASHING OVER that scene trying to make it NORMAL, it is not normal to murder someone. She begged for her life before they cut her! The Showrunners have even said they wanted to HIGHLITE the *lack of say so* the women of that day had to deal with.

[@Enigma427]

Hello comment section !! One question Do i have to watch GOT or is it okay to watch HOD without watching GOT... Pls reply thankyu. 🙂

[@JTJ1810]

Yes you can watch HOD without watching GOT.

[@nkhlmdavi229]

Yes

[@aakarshverma5793]

Ig so...but like watching got makes you fimiliar with some names and places

[@zawa7497]

To get a better understanding of the great houses and the names of the places I would suggest you to watch some videos on youtube and get on with HOTD.

[@Blinkptx]

It's not going to hit the same way without watching Game of Thrones. I'm sure you could watch it without seeing it though. Can't recommend watching GoT enough though.