Cole was not picked to be Hand, he was chosen as the new member of the Kingsguard because one of 7 Kingsguards was old and died of sickness. Kingsguards swear vows of chastity (similar to the Night's Watch) and they serve for life. They cannot lay with the members of the royal family they sworn to protect.
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
20:50 I actually think Sophie made a good point - if Otto didn't tell Viserys as soon as he knew, he'd be failing in his duties. 1 - Viserys would be angry if he LATER found out Otto know for a long time but didn't tell him, 2 - Otto hates Daemon, and neither Otto nor Viserys would be pleased to let Daemon continue to SEDUCE THE HEIR TO THE THRONE
@Lostmonster Жыл бұрын
Mair is correct. All Otto wants is to take the throne. He will do and say anything to keep Daemon and Rhaenyra from from it because he knows he will be kicked out with either of them as King or Queen. So yeah, it was a boon for him to find out the info about Dae and Rhae. He never would have kept that to himself. If it was in his favor he wouldnt have bat an eye keeping it a secret. He doesn't work for the realm only his own bloodline; he's failing in his duties by doing so.
@cedricmcconnell6074 Жыл бұрын
@@LostmonsterPerfect explanation!!!!! Otto has kept PLENTY of Secrets from the King. He plotted a whole COUP for YEARS!!!
@Caraxes_RoguePrince Жыл бұрын
Daemon isn’t trynna seduce rhaenyra tho Lmfao
@secicu11 ай бұрын
@@Caraxes_RoguePrinceNo way youre serious? He did it ever since childhood, jewelry and caresses secret glances etc The whole point of taking her to the brothel was to besmirch her honor and make it impossible for her to marry anyone except Daemon.. Thats why he removed her disguise and all but announced her presence.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince11 ай бұрын
@@secicu yes but the writer said he didn’t want to do that to rhaenyra and he legit wanted to marry her and not use her lol Otto don’t want daemon around because he can’t control him and that would only make rhaenyra more formidable in Otto eyes with daemon around..
@cedricmcconnell6074 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra and Daemon did not have sex
@Samantha-ek3pb11 ай бұрын
Technically Rhaenyra didn’t lie to Alicent. She found the loophole and exploited it. Alicent was asking her if she had sex with Daemon and she technically didn’t. Alicent didn’t ask if she was still a virgin, she asked if she specifically had sex with Daemon and Rhaenyra didn’t. Alicent just assumed that because she didn’t have sex with Daemon then she was still a virgin. Also, even if Alicent did ask her directly it’s completely understandable that she would have lied to Alicent. At this point Rhaenyra only just made up with Alicent the day before. In her eyes Alicent is still the girl who lied to her for months, snuck around with her dad and then took her mother’s place (even if Rhaenyra realized that Otto coerced her into marrying him then that just proves that Alicent is Otto’s puppet and will do whatever he wants even if it means hurting her only friend). She had zero reason to trust that Alicent wouldn’t have run off to Viserys or Otto and told on her.
@mariacavanaugh1010 Жыл бұрын
Allicent is definitely just a vessel, i.e. a baby-machine with Viserys, their "love making" is probably very different than it was with Aemma. Even though Allicent has a connection with Viserys, it is not rooted in real sexual affection.
@TraceTrace25 Жыл бұрын
Otto is not some good dude doing things just because he’s a good guy. He’s calculating 100% of the time 😂.
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
1:15 House Blackwood and House Bracken? _(giddy)_ oh, they’ve been feuding since the Long Night thousands of years ago… This must be setting the up for season 2, they mention them again later in season 1. They’re big recurring characters.
@superkoopatrooper4879 Жыл бұрын
In ancient Rome, the theater and the plays functioned pretty much the same. Actors were considered the lowest of the low and weren't respected. It was basically ancient Fox news and CNN.
@violette3096 Жыл бұрын
Daemon told him in episode 1 what Otto was trying to do and Viserys ignored it, and now Rhaenyra tells him this episode and he finally begins to listen.
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
About one year passed since the previous episode, but it’s not considered a “time skip”; they say Rhaenyra's been on tour looking for potential husbands for a year
@jerellmccall1790 Жыл бұрын
So we really gon act like sophie aint just say "plan T?" 😂
@dreadredj9548 Жыл бұрын
Mair's face at that had me rolling.
@Bonviewkellee Жыл бұрын
PAUSE😅..I think yall are missing a huge point. Visaries now has a son. Technically Rayneria should not even be an option. Ottos plan was to have that all along, hence the spies. Anything to discredit the "named heir" .People really do not want her as queen. Remember the play?
@Targaryens_10 ай бұрын
I really like how yall can see the signs of daemon and rhea because it was so clear whilst other reactors didnt catch on at all yall been knew since ep 1
@Karasuno86 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra and Daemon chose each other but Viserys' stupid ass was against it lmao
@Targaryens_10 ай бұрын
Fr kinda wish they married a lot sooner but they didn't marry till like 13 years after this which was dumb
@t.j._fury Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you guys got this or not, but when Rheanyra said "for my hand," she meant her hand in marriage. Not her hand as in 'hand of the Queen'. Also, Rheanyra and Deamon didn't 'go all the way'. In the behind the scenes they say that Damon had 'performance issues' and that's why he didn't go through with it. Which is something they showed before (in the previous ep.) when he was with his girlfriend/prostitute (called the white worm) and she asked him if he wanted her to bring in any younger, golden haired 'maidens'. This is something you should keep in mind, since it will come up one last time. Lastly, I think a lot of ppl would disagree with the person who said they thought Allicent wanted to "date" the King. In saying that, everyone is entitled to their own interpretation and opinion of course.
@tblack6974 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Allicent did not want that man.... 😂😂😂
@Caraxes_RoguePrince Жыл бұрын
The writers literally said daemon couldn’t go through with it because he didn’t want to use her to get back at viserys lol also he couldn’t do it with mysaria because he thought viserys was trynna replace him as heir.
@kellifranklin9872 Жыл бұрын
Viscerys has leprosy. Basically he’s rotting away. As far as Daemon and Rhaenyra go-Targaryens are gonna Targaryen. You have to sort of immerse yourself in this universe where incest is acceptable. Showing the difference between Alicent bound to duty and Rhaenyra able to enjoy a little more freedom, especially as the heir, was well done in this episode. I’m still team Daemon! I’m team Rhaenyra too Mair.
@phines Жыл бұрын
just cause incest is common in the series doesn't mean you have to excuse it. GRRM is literally trying to criticize incest
@kellifranklin9872 Жыл бұрын
@@phines It’s really not that deep. He based these stories on the actual War of the Roses that took place in England centuries ago and families married each other to keep the blood lines pure. It’s just a fantasy story. It’s okay to suspend reality for a little while and ponder alternative points of view.
@phines Жыл бұрын
the alternative pov being incest is okay... @@kellifranklin9872
@bastianghartey5132 Жыл бұрын
Mair is the only reactor who actually understands rhaenyra ...i appreciate someone seeing it from my perspective
@neonoires Жыл бұрын
I watched this episode with my mom and it was so awkward lmao. And whoever said Alicent wanted to marry him left out a ton of context which is normal because most people don't like her but she was a 15 year old doing what her dad told her to do. That really was Plan Tea not poison. That scene was basically saying that Viserys doesn't trust fully trust what Rhaenyra told him and is making sure he weds her off to Laenor Velaryon without a bun in the oiven.
@keef5 Жыл бұрын
She was picking a husband not a hand
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
This was the first episode in this franchise with a female director since GoT SEASON FOUR in 2014!! They wanted her to handle the sex scenes better than the morons in charge on the old show.
@PastLifeVillian4 ай бұрын
Cringe. The sex scenes in the other show were almost never romantically fueled scenes like the one with Cole, there was nothing “moronic” about how they were portrayed in GoT lol. Women are not better at creating sex scenes just because they’re women.
@keef5 Жыл бұрын
Otto absolutely loved being able to tell Viserys about the heir to the throne going against tradition and duty because he wants his grandson to supplant her as next in line.
@ACinemafanatic Жыл бұрын
He’s a coward he was scared of daemon and made an even bigger enemy of them by making it a war for it not to be Rhaenyra as the heir.
@queenieb.4160 Жыл бұрын
They named it House of the Dragon so we could call it HotD 😆
@patbau96 Жыл бұрын
We already call it HotD lmao
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
3:45 I want to see those amazing tapestries from Norvos and Qohor!
@EmphaticNod Жыл бұрын
This the episode where it truly becomes inescapable fact: Targaryens gonna Targaryen.
@icechoc Жыл бұрын
The man was rude to the boy because he was from House Bracken and the boy is from House Blackwood. They have a legendary rivalry that's lasted centuries and still continued in Game of Thrones but we never saw anything. It is talked about in the books though. The Red Keep is filled with secret passageways that were built by King Maegor the Cruel. He killed the builders after they built them to keep them a secret. Only some know about some and less know all of them.
@RavenStillBeguiling Жыл бұрын
I think we women tend to absorb more romance (movies, books, etc) so we're more familiar with romantic undertones and can spot them immediately. Daemon took Rhaenyra to the pleasure house (and removed her hat) so that people would see them together and her reputation would be ruined. He was trying to force a marriage between them by taking her virginity but couldn't go through with it in the end.
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Rhaenyra was "manipulating" her father into firing Otto but made a logical point: "You want me to be heir and marry to secure your lineage? Fine. But we both know Otto will try to undermine me at every turn to advance my younger half-brother. So if you're serious about me as heir, you need to get rid of Otto"
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
29:35 it’s called “Moon Tea”, it’s an abortion drug. It’s mentioned more in the books but didn’t in the GoT TV show
@Itzbeavs Жыл бұрын
Watching you two who didnt read the history book is amazing. Your reactions to everyything 😅👍
@nanireactssss Жыл бұрын
Good for Rhaenyra for living her life as she wants but she’s creating a storm in her path. Viserys broke law naming her heir & instead of her living up to it she’s out having premarital sex & acting a fool in whore houses. It’s just more ammo for ppl to rise up against her and want Aegon, Viserys’s first born son as heir. Also she lied to Alicent & swore on her dead mother. Her and Alicent both have lost their mothers so I’m sure it’s something they connected on, and for Rhaenyra to lie like that it’s a huge betrayal. Alicent defended her blindly because she was her best friend only to be a fool. And then she got rid of her father for speaking the truth.
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
Agree with all of the above except Otto deserved to be fired although that alienated Alicent even more and furthered her growing resentment (justifiable) for Rhaenyra.
@Samantha-ek3pb11 ай бұрын
Viserys didn’t break the law, he broke precedent which is very different. Any king before him could have named their daughter as heir they all just chose not to. If they wanted to name their youngest child heir and skip over 5 kids then they could have. People just didn’t like that he chose a girl, he was well within his rights to do so. And Rhaenyra didn’t lie to Alicent. Alicent asked if she had sex with Daemon. She didn’t. Alicent just assumed that because Rhaenyra didn’t sleep with Daemon that it meant she was still a virgin. She didn’t ask the right question (“did you sleep with anyone?” Or “are you still a maiden?”) so Rhaenyra did not give her the whole truth. That’s not lying
@nltoriola89 Жыл бұрын
Come on Mair, Sophie's plan-b (plan-tea) joke was kinda funny. 😂
@sidneyogungbemi4454 Жыл бұрын
It was good. The crowd loved it!
@blackeyedlily6 ай бұрын
Really good discussion about the episode at the end!
@kevh96106 ай бұрын
Where Rhaneyra sneaks out I wonder if that was the same hidden door they snuck Tyrion out of when he was on trial for Joffreys death
@sidneyogungbemi4454 Жыл бұрын
Great reaction as always. Yall had a good indepth breakdown! 🤙🏾
@t.j._fury Жыл бұрын
I ❤ how much Mair is on Rheanyra's side 🎉
@Cavpal Жыл бұрын
I don't like simps.
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
I love how Sophie isnt
@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын
26:13 but Laenor is not attracted to Rhaenyra!
@CarrCab11 ай бұрын
Alicent did NOT want to date him. Alicent has a legion of haters that will say dumb crap like that, do not listen to them. She was a child pressured by her father to spend time with him. If they were getting it on on his Lego set, then sure Alicent was game. They were not. She did what she was ordered to do, and then suddenly the King of the Seven Kingdoms proclaimed he wanted to marry her. What was she supposed to do? Saying no was not exactly an option.
@philliesfan3414 Жыл бұрын
Legend is the iron throne has to accept its subject. The chair is rejecting Viserys
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! I love that Sophie is pointing out whenever Rhaenyra f*cks up. The ass kissing for that character is nauseating. They are all gonna make mistakes (ALL OF THEM) and it's okay to call them out. Remember from GoT: nobody is 100% good or bad.
@monlovchel Жыл бұрын
True - however, Rhaenyra never went after Alicent at all, and Alicent did…
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
@@monlovchel well what do you mean by that. Would you consider relentlessly gaslighting someone as "going after" someone?
@CarrCab11 ай бұрын
@@monlovchel Rhaenyra gaslit, girlbossed, and gatekeeped Alicent in this very episode lol, and in 1x7. Get real.
@jenliz6248 Жыл бұрын
Plan tea 😂
@fabiolaliano8620 Жыл бұрын
the “birds” are mysaria’s
@blovelyee8997 ай бұрын
the thing about the tea is, if she told her dad and allicent that she didn’t do anything to put her virtue in jeopardy then there would be absolutely no reason for her to drink it. but you and i AND rhaenyra know that she did something with cole. so the either doesn’t drink the tea in order to keep her lie alive and risks pregnancy… or drinks it and gets caught
@bathory313 Жыл бұрын
Funcle Daemon!
@postshanna Жыл бұрын
Y’all were cookin this ep 🤣
@penguin8711 Жыл бұрын
Nice! This is where it gets good... and keeps getting better.
@ljnohlgren6 ай бұрын
Please remind yourselves that this is thousands of years ago and not today. Times were simply different.
@allbutperfect Жыл бұрын
Sophie, you look like a queen! I love y'all's reactions 🥰
@FixaMHD3 ай бұрын
2:59 saying unrealistic in a fantasy TV show battle is mad LOL
@Santino39894 ай бұрын
He carries 'dark sister ' and rides caraxes, of corse he must feel he should be king
@shilohauraable5 күн бұрын
Otto told the king because if Rhenerya had sex before marriage she would be considered "soiled" for any official marriage & therefore Otto's daughter's sons would be the obvious heirs! That's how it works! You cannot judge their morals by today's standards. A queen - or any wife - was supposed to give the king - or any husband - an heir or noble daughters to wed to other noble houses to create THEIR heirs. If the woman had more than one sexual partner - not a virgin - there would be no guarantee that the children belonged to that king/man. So a woman who was "tarnished" or "sullied" could no longer be considered for marriage & were often sent off to convents or became prostitutes. Virginity of the woman used to be so very important - and in some cultures it still is - that there was a committee that would watch a king & queen have first sex on their wedding night to verify the woman bled when hubby broke her hymen during intercourse! One reason women used to ride horses with a side saddle was fear of breaking her hymen if she rode a galloping horse in straddle position! It was THAT important! Woe to the young girl who fell wrong or broke her hymen in an innocent way. Some women even snuck small amounts of blood into the wedding bed with them to ensure there would be blood on the sheets for the witnesses to see! I'm so glad I wasn't born back then! 😅
@fabiolaliano8620 Жыл бұрын
team sophie
@prico3358 Жыл бұрын
PLAN T 😂
@phines Жыл бұрын
like yea its fucked up but rhaenyra needs to realize that she is a girl so if she wants the throne, she needs to be smarter and she was not this episode (or last or ever). also daemon wanted rhaenyra to get caught so she'd be forced to wed him and he could essentially become king. alicent was trying to be such a good friend and her father got sent away and she was left alone :(((
@bastianghartey5132 Жыл бұрын
wasnt her business who rhaenyra was fucking
@Caraxes_RoguePrince Жыл бұрын
Why are you lying? He did that so viserys would marry him to rhaenyra because he wants her lol the writer literally already confirmed daemon never wanted the throne. Plus if Alicent such a good friend why didn’t she tell rhaenyra Otto been plotting for years to usurp her? You just a Alicent stan lying
@AbbyUnEarthed Жыл бұрын
I have now been calling it 'House of Dragon' in my head cuz Sophie's right it sounds better lol
@kellifranklin9872 Жыл бұрын
Same. Who cares if M and S say House of Dragon? People focus on the stupidest shit sometimes.
@slopez6258 Жыл бұрын
Plan tea 🫖 😂😂😂
@NoShiiitSherlock Жыл бұрын
1:44 - TALK SH*T - GET HIT
@kellifranklin9872 Жыл бұрын
I knew y’all would love this show! Lol
@DianaJG8 Жыл бұрын
Dahmon and his neice never had intercourse...
@daniellylima55684 ай бұрын
In Game of Thrones we saw incest between Cersei and Jaimes and this is very wrong and not because they are brothers because in the Targaryen family there is a lot of this and it is normal in the family for example Daemon's countries and Viserys they are brothers and they are tired and Viserys is married to his cousin who is a mother and Rhaenyra so incest is super normal but Cersei is Jaimes there yes and wrong Because they are not Targaryen if it was Targaryen then it's ok they can be together but they are not Targaryen that's why na series they hide it because they know it's wrong What are they doing that is incest they can't, but if they were Targaryen then no one is bothered by them but they are not Targaryen so they can't have any relationship it's only Targaryen that can do incest because it is the Targaryen family custom to do incest The Daemon likes Rhaenyra the daemon wanted to show things to Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra doesn't know anything outside the kingdom the daemon's plan I believe the daemon wanted people to see them together and that they say the princess entered a brothel with her uncle so much so the daemon took off rhaenyra's hood and hat before entering the brothel but the daemon gives up and leaves what a shame because he left her alone and rhaenyra and christian's relationship was also wrong because christian he is a knight and he soiled his white tunic, remembering that Christian is older than Daemon, so age doesn't matter in this universe, just as incest doesn't matter because it's normal in the Targaryen family. I'm already used to it because I read George Martin's books and the stories he tells about the Targaryen family all contain incest. Incest is the most normal thing in this universe 21:26 I didn't like the way Alicent spoke to Rhaenyra if she wants help friend no and just like you approach a friend Alicent is jealous of her Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra slept with whoever she wanted, she doesn't have to sleep with an old man, you'll understand yet but later Alicent is jealous of Rhaenyra's life in the book shows more 12:00 See the difference in the scenes when the daemon talks to Rhaenyra, talking even though she is married, he can feel pleasure with whoever she wants in the scene with Alicent and viserys Alicent is not feeling pleasure in the scene with Rhaenyra and Daemon Rhaenyra is feeling pleasure even if it was the kiss but she likes it more after she sleeps with Christian and she feels pleasure and you can see 23:43 In the throne scene, when the daemon says that Viserys can do whatever he wants, because he is the king, he rules over him and the law, he is a Targaryen, this is true, as it is also true when Viserys tells Alicent that the daemon and Rhaenyra are dragons are restless this is also true.
@TieLand Жыл бұрын
I feel like Sophie should go back and rewatch the 1st 2 episodes. After listening to your opinion at the end, you're not too far off the mark, BUT you're further away from it than you think about Raynera. Mair on the other hand is right on track!! And why would Otto send her the tea? It would work in his favor if she were pregnant and disqualified as the heir to the iron throne! Her father sent it to her because he didn't believe that her and Daemon did not sleep together. 🤷🏾♀️
@kristymcdowell6185 Жыл бұрын
Ayeeee the Aladdin episode minus the incest
@Cenforge Жыл бұрын
Bravo.
@bluegypsy71 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂I’m sorry, but if my supposed “best friend” came at me demanding an explanation for my behavior when she was secretly riding my Dad and kept that from me, I’d lie to her face too!!!
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
1. Not friend, Alicent is her QUEEN, meaning Alicent is above Rhaenyra 😉 2. Not "secretly riding my Dad" she was forced to marry that corpse...
@monlovchel Жыл бұрын
That and she didn’t lie - they (Damen) didn’t have sex at all. Alicent only asked about Damen.
@bluegypsy71 Жыл бұрын
@@jema.flores 😂still gonna lie to that shady “Queen”, gimme a break she approached her on the down low, after sneakily eavesdropping on a private conversation, and if that’s your argument, than the “Queen” is committing treason by even positing that question to the heir
@ackerose Жыл бұрын
Deranged thing to say about a 15y old being pimped by her dad to a grown ass man.
@CarrCab11 ай бұрын
Please never have children or be responsible for anyone else's if you think a 15 year old being pimped out by her father and forced to marry a King (saying no is not an option to a girl her age or even really any woman) is something to blame her for and liken it to joyfully riding his old D. You need be on a sex registry if that's how you think.
@life_with_laurie3 ай бұрын
Why do the Targaryens always going insane? Too much incest bro.
@kimcottingham8043 Жыл бұрын
Mair I 1000% agree with just about everything you said this episode. Sorry ms. Sophie not with you on most of this but still love your reaction!
@prico3358 Жыл бұрын
Sophie, dont let mair convince you... Rany sucks, your feelings are right. Mair, stop beign such a Rany enabler.
@Nymphette_ Жыл бұрын
Who's rany..
@prico3358 Жыл бұрын
@@Nymphette_ rhaenera
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling shes gonna switch sides haha I hope not. 💚
@prico3358 Жыл бұрын
@@jema.flores oh hey!... wanna be my internet wifey?
@prico3358 Жыл бұрын
@@jema.flores we already both love game of thrones ..