The Perfect Wife Isn't So Perfect | House M.D..

[@docproc144]

Cameron was insufferable for this entire episode. She told the husband he was a bad person for being angry that his wife cheated on him. The husband was completely faithful to his wife and was by her side the whole episode right up until he found out she was unfaithful. Not only that, but she cheated on her husband with his close friend. That’s pretty shitty man. And Cameron still tried to convince the husband to stay and that his wife loved him. The husband was right when he said, “How can you love someone and do that to them?” I hate that they narrow cheating down to something simple by calling it a “mistake.” Cheating isn’t a mistake, it’s a deliberate choice. Accidentally backing over something in the driveway, that’s a mistake. Banging someone that isn’t your spouse, that isn’t a mistake, you chose to do that. She’s not sad that she did it, she’s sad that she got caught cause she was willing to die to keep it a secret from him. Good on the husband for leaving her, I would’ve left her too tbh.

[@thechildofgodalmighty]

For real

[@RisingTidesAC]

20 likes. If you had just said, cheating is not a mistake, you would have gotten tens of thousands of likes. KZbinrs are weird.

[@SuperNintendoGamingLeague-]

This is why I think arranged marriage should be mandatory, no one can pick good faithful partners

[@ElentariRose]

​​@@SuperNintendoGamingLeague-oh, come on, as if an arranged marriage is a guarantee that partners stay faithful.

[@paulschaaf8880]

Exactly. The husband did what any man in this situation should do. Cameron was maddening to watch in this episode.

[@jakepullman4914]

Is it weird that I prefer House, who tells everyone they're terrible, to Cameron, who only selectively tells people they're terrible?

[@FREDfan105]

Cameron can be very hypocritical and overly self-righteous. So no, I can understand why you would prefer House who is crappy but at least he's consistent. Not that he's in the right either for everything he does.

[@tiheera]

What good does Dr House's honesty do, that's the question id like to ask myself before I force my opinion upon someone who isn't yet ready to accept my version of truth or isn't capable of accepting it because it conflicts with their basic understanding of life matters or their defence mechanisms. And yes it is an opinion even though it's coming from "The Dr House" and there's always another way to look at things.

[@JaySee8866]

Why would it matter to you what we think of what you prefer? Are you that thirsty for validation?

[@DarkSpells87]

@@JaySee8866 woah slow down, skippy, his question actually makes sense. I know you are big fan of Cameron, and I get that, I like her too, but her chatacter has shown great amount of inconsistency especially in the early episodeswhen her borderline zealous self-righteousness clouded her judgement number of times. In this case, for example, she doesn't know if wife made a mistake or intentionally cheated yet she is quick to judge. So OC's comment is due for validation.

[@JaySee8866]

@@DarkSpells87 I’m not even a fan of the show. Just pointing out someone’s need for attention.

[@swimfast724]

Cameron always acts so high and mighty and on her own moral code than anyone else's, but her "code" changes whenever it benefits her

[@orppranator5230]

@@numanch4413 Sounds like a lot of people in the western country I live in.

[@winry2357]

@@numanch4413 sounds like humans in general. People are selfish creatures that expect everyone else to hold the same moral values. Doesn’t matter where you’re from.

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

One of the reasons I didn't like the character.

[@GIBBO4182]

Agree…she was no Thirteen

[@mherndon]

Sounds like most people I have ever met.

[@Ckbruinfan]

Cheating on someone is never a "mistake". Leaving the milk out is a mistake. Waking up late for work is a mistake. Having sexual relations with someone who isn't your SO isn't a mistake.

[@FunkyFyreMunky]

Having romantic relations with someone you shouldn't requires not only a long series series of "mistakes", but almost constant re-evaluations of those "mistakes" and deciding you're okay with them enough to continue.

[@awwastor]

Romantic relationships can’t be a mistake. Sexual ones can

[@meltingface2558]

@@awwastor wrong. That would require MULTIPLE "mistakes". Which doesn't make it a mistake at all but WILLFULL.

[@dory032]

@@secretsuzie you should

[@narutomax1101]

@@secretsuzie What? What is wrong about that fact?

[@iRazenrak]

It doesn't make him a terrible person because he's not actually wishing that she won't get better, he's preparing and expecting it because he believes in her faithfulness.

[@aDespondentThespian]

Yes it does, you psycho.

[@misterp768]

Yeah. I always get confused of why he is suddenly the bad person. Ofc he wants her to be better. Just without proving she was cheating on him

[@TheBusyHoneyBee]

That IS not It. The paradigm is she will die from the treatment If she was always faithfull to her husband OR she Will get better If she caught a desease by cheating on him. The Guy is hoping she dies because that means she was always faithfull rather than making a Full recovery because she cheated. Either way he will not live with the wife he had until now, either she will die or the image of the perfect wife will be shattered for ever. He preffers the First. If he were a good person he would not wish death upon a cheater, he would wish her to survive even if he divorced her latter.

[@iRazenrak]

@@TheBusyHoneyBee i don't think he's HOPING she dies, but rather, he's expecting it because he can't fathom the alternative.

[@TheBusyHoneyBee]

@@iRazenrak " a big part of me doesn't want her to get better" that is verbatum what he said.

[@q.l.1363]

Glad to see everyone dislikes Cameron's hypocritical overly righteous attitude as much as me

[@QueenOfTheNorth65]

He actually said “Part of me doesn’t WANT her to get better. Does that make me a bad person?” I would have said the same thing as Cameron.

[@spdadventurer1754]

@@QueenOfTheNorth65 🙌🙌true that

[@sfprivateer]

@@QueenOfTheNorth65 Yep, but I would have added "...but the fact that she never told you she cheated on you makes her WORSE person."

[@life.with.too.many.animals9411]

@@sfprivateer sure . And he didn't ask that lol

[@hamzazar3623]

@@QueenOfTheNorth65 bc if she gets better with that treatment that imples that she cheated and it will end their relationship like it happened, so he hoped that that treatment fail to cure her and get some other cure for another illness.

[@brianbernstein3826]

Ah Cameron. Judging everyone, demanding they meet her impossible standards, all while using and manipulating both House and Chase repeatedly

[@chriskelly3481]

Yeah. Generally I liked the character of Cameron, except when she was being extra naive and judgemental.

[@randallmcgrath9345]

Definitely one of my least fav House characters.

[@lorizoli]

XX7 license to kill.

[@hraith]

I always found Cameron as annoying as she is attractive.

[@thekeefchief3616]

Let’s not forget in this same episode she wants to shame the husband for leaving his cheating wife

[@cheetamcu644]

That is not a mistake that was 100% a decision she stood by so much to the point she was willing to die to keep it a secret.

[@oTouchMe]

An accident is an incident that is unintentional and unexpected. (not your fault) A mistake is what happens after you've made the decision to do or say something that turns out wrong.(your fault)

[@Jani-js]

I think she was sorry for all she did to him maybe because she realized that the one she got is the best one for her and that guilt might led her to feel like she should compensate for it...... And may be the fear of loosing her husband (her true love) was big enough that she was ready to die as if she'd accepted it as her punishment.. I think Cameron wasn't completely wrong after all...

[@orionefx]

​@@Jani-js are you literally justifying a cheater ? No one is feeling sorry for her. Cameron was wrong because she sided with a cheater and is emotionally abusing and manipulating the man to stay with the cheater.

[@Jani-js]

@@orionefx you're right! but I thought the story could be seen through a different perspective .... by giving her a second chance .... may be this could have a happy ending ...

[@annyjoseph6162]

​@@orionefxI don't think cheating( which is wrong) deserves death penalty.

[@justaloe]

Cameron has some nerve telling a husband that basically he should be OK with his wife cheating on him. To make it worse this woman cheated with his best friend. You can't get any lower than that and the Husband doesn't even know that part of it. Imagine how he will feel when he finds that out.

[@caglayantilsim]

@ justaloe She doesn't say he should be okay with cheating. She just said that if he prefers her wife to be dead and loyal over alive and cheated, he is a terrible person. Cheating sucks, but desperately wishing your wife to die just to prove to be loyal is worse.

[@AverageLeagueHack]

@@caglayantilsim her act is one of deliberate betrayal and he's hoping that it's not true. He wants to believe the best in her which is not the case if she survives. He's hoping his entire marriage wasn't a sham which unfortunately it was. He doesn't want her to die out of spite.

[@CasaNovack]

@@caglayantilsim i don't remember the episode too much but just from that clip i don't think the husband has the dillema of " he prefers his wife to be dead and loyal over alive and cheated", but rather he'd like the situation to be different. it's like if Your SO was arrested under the suspicion of murder and the only way to prove he/she didn't kill someone is to prove that he/she's been cheating on You at that time. The husband didn't even phrase it in a way that should make You conclude that he desperatly wishes for her to die just to prove that she's been faithful. He said that big part of him wants to believe that she didn't cheat on him and so the drug shouldn't work because of that, not because he thinks that she's better off dead rather than unfaithful

[@CasaNovack]

@@AverageLeagueHack seems i was just a little late :D

[@jaimhaas5170]

Honestly women can be heartless....seen it and been there.

[@maynardperalta3188]

I think people are misunderstanding the line “a part of me doesn’t want her to get better.” If she gets better, it proves she cheated on him. If the treatment doesn’t work, it would me the diagnosis was wrong and she most likely didn’t cheat. By him hoping she didn’t get better, a part of him was hoping the treatment didn’t work which would be proof of her faithfulness.

[@chereejohnson2400]

Thank you for the clarity! 👏👏👏👏

[@micaelaritchie4751]

Okay but would you rather your spouse be dead but faithful than alive and knowing there was infidelity? No matter what, I would prefer to have my husband alive regardless of the mistake he made

[@sarethuskami5082]

@@micaelaritchie4751 Is that ABSOLUTELY true? Look let's be clear here. The husband did say a "big PART" of him wished she was faithful even if it meant her death. He did NOT say that was the ONLY thing he felt. Obviously the OTHER Part of him felt differently. That's the thing, he was stuck in a horrible situation and felt BOTH ways. The best outcome for him would be his wife living while being faithful. That was not happening. Human beings are complex and often contradictory especially when it comes to feelings. He obviously felt BOTH ways. Wanting his wife to live , wanting her to be faithful...

[@marden3761]

@@micaelaritchie4751 yes

[@marywindt902]

Oh my goodness, how MANY REASONS are there why a Humon would cheat? But then, where does the actual BLAME go to.? It takes 2 of anything to make Good, convenient or unhealthy. It takes 1 to not be paying attention because their world IS PERFECT FOR THEM, it takes 1 TO FEEL THEY ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT to the one that should be apart to their life. ???? Somethings left out, when someone seeks some acceptance, approval outside their relationship. Communication seems to be feared, among those that say their aware, that they pay attention to their relationship. Dont think so.

[@bryanbrigaudit5690]

husband: does that make me a terrible person? Cameron's answer should have been: it means you're human

[@philwaller4379]

I disagree. Cameron was correct. Husband has "part of" him that wishes his wife wouldnt get better. Thats selfish. So...if she cheated, she must pay the price, but to wish her death because husband can't face the truth? No one is saying wife deserves a 2nd chance, but death is permanent. Wish her the best,....then move on.

[@priscillajimenez27]

@@philwaller4379 he Hope's she doesn't get better proving she was faithful. If she gets better it proves she cheated

[@chimaijemikekeonwu7345]

I honestly thought that was what she was going to say...

[@jacksongraham2212]

@@philwaller4379 I disagree with you view on the matter. If he didn’t want her to get better so he wouldn’t have to face the truth, he would’ve never allowed the treatment to go through, instead of letting happen and forcing the truth to the surface. What I get out of this scene is that a “big part” of him wishes that he that was wrong and that she never cheated on him; that his wife was really perfect and that he never should’ve doubted her. Of course he wants her to get better (again, he allowed the treatment), but he also hopes that she didn’t do something so horrible to him, and that instead he was that made the wrong decision. Though that feeling itself is selfish, he can’t control how he feels about it only how he acts, and he choose to face the truth and save her life which is unquestionably selfless.

[@5wheels178]

It's not human to hope someone dies. Seek therapy

[@rockandguts7877]

Such a good episode. At the end, the man manages to keep his compassion and asks for his wife to please not die even if it meant the truth of her infidelity. It then concludes with him leaving her and shutting down Cameron's nonsense about the wife loving him. Cheating is just about the worst thing you could do to your spouse, especially when they cheat with your best friend.

[@scottys1423]

The flaw in this episode is how the heck the guy doesn't know his best friend had travelled to Africa. He should have had an immediate aha moment.

[@tjjordan4207]

It's said that if a woman cheats on her man, it means not only is she unfaithful, but she doesn't love him anymore.

[@steppy3736]

​@tjjordan4207 if a man cheats on his woman he's not only unfaithful, but he never loved her to begin with.

[@claytonwright2416]

@@steppy3736 The same could be said of anyone, either man or woman.

[@johnwinchesterp2963]

​@@scottys1423usually to believe someone you care about did something inmoral you need more evidence than you would for a stranger. Imagine how much you would need for two people you care about betraying you. Sometimes you may subconsciously miss evidence to avoid the truth.

[@ottokarl5427]

You know it must be earlier (probably even first) seasons when House is still kinda nice to patients AND Wilson has to narrate everything House does.

[@CaseNumber00]

I mostly know due to Foreman having hair.

[@haylee7695]

Its great I love the throw backs 😌

[@dars5229]

Nah. House does care about his patients. It's the best kept secret in the universe. If people knew he cared, they'd hold him to it. Then he'd have to treat people he can't save. Or worse, people who don't have it all that bad. He'd end up like Cameron. And no disrespect to her, but it would be a waste of his genius.

[@carlousmagus5387]

Cheating is never a mistake; it requires a specific sequence of choices and decisions. You can't trip fall and land on someone's else's d**k. You choose to give yourself to another Person. It is a choice and we are accountable for our choices.

[@sillyking1991]

@@carlousmagus5387 choices can be mistakes...mistakes aren't the same as accidents.

[@cuentaoficialmentesinnombr3613]

Kinda funny how Cameron tells him he's terrible for feeling bad that she cheated on him when in season 2 she admits that she cheated on her DYING husband

[@OperationDecoded]

Only a person who cheated before would have called it "a mistake". The actress played this beautully, showing that Cameron has empathy for the wife cause she's done worse before.

[@DrDecadence]

She didn't cheat on him. She tells Wilson about the bond they had as her husband was dying but she never pulled the trigger. I only know this because I actually watched that very episode last night lol

[@a.g.m9078]

@@DrDecadence still it kinda is emotional cheating, its a level and if she didnt recognize it she wouldnt defend tje wife

[@TheGoodandBadJuju]

No she called him a terrible person for saying he didn’t want her to get better. Despite that meaning she was faithful, it also means she dies… For him to rather her be dead but faithful than alive but cheated does make him a bad person.

[@5wheels178]

She tells him he's terrible for hoping that she doesn't get better. Newsflash, that's terrible

[@ForbGrott321]

Never liked cameron but this episode cemented the fact that she would forgive cheating and try to move past it and then calling him terrible for hoping his wife didn't get better hoping it means she didnt cheat

[@elistari1050]

I think him wanting her to not get better is both understandable and awful. But overall, him not staying makes sense and I think if she really cared about him, she wouldn't have cheated. Now, for all we know, it was one time and it wasn't anything serious, but also for all we know....it was an ongoing affair. Why she would cheat with his bestfriend? And why his bestfriend would do that to him?! I don't even know...

[@rowdyreidgirl]

I adore Cameron. There's something about her...

[@Devilmaycry-Joker]

@@elistari1050 I skipped to the end and didn’t even know the context, If I knew that she cheated on me with my best friend. I’d take a selfie with her and put a caption R.I.P Bozzo + Smoking that cheater pack.

[@Fireguy97]

Yet Cameron is passing judgment without a long term relationship or husband.

[@ravador]

It actually more likely means she did cheat and wants forgiveness.

[@Stumbo99]

cameron was 100% wrong about it being just "a mistake." it might have been just a mistake if she did it and IMMEDIATELY told her husband and begged for forgiveness, maybe. but the fact that she did it and then lied about it shows selfishness, and borderline maliciousness

[@hardwirecars]

selfishness i can see maliciousness i would say not as a default everybody lies people get scared of the answer and cover the smallest of stuff up so it stands to reason a big thing like cheating they would cover up but not nessisarally out of malice

[@jorgevilla8068]

Who hurt you

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

@@hardwirecars define malice

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

@@jorgevilla8068 perfectly reasonable point

[@hardwirecars]

@@jacksonconstantine5740 intentionally trying to hurt someone physically or emotionally or spiritually.

[@shiddharthokarmaker47]

Wilson cheats & Cameron be like "you're a douchebag". When the female patient cheats, Cameron to the husband "SHE MADE A MISTAKE. FORGIVE HER. GIVE HER A 2ND CHANCE". 😑😑😑

[@ForbGrott321]

Honestly tho i hate cameron for these exact reasons

[@shiddharthokarmaker47]

@@ForbGrott321 I don't hate her bud. But sometimes I find her double standards intriguing

[@daimhafizy]

She's damaged, remember?

[@AverageLeagueHack]

The default position of women is if he cheated it's his fault and if she cheated it's his fault.

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

@@AverageLeagueHack nice generalization, dude

[@XOXheartErin]

I've always kind of hated the moral assholeary that Cameron has. Her telling the husband that he's a terrible person because he doesn't know if he can forgive his wife for cheating and doesn't want her to get better because it would be proof of that, it just....she's always seemed like the kind of person that would gaslight you, youknow? That passive aggressive backhandedness? Maybe I read too much into it but yeah, I've never liked Cameron's "moral superiority" attitude.

[@mrroboshadow]

oh just wait till the dictator episode Cameron: that dictator is horrible, he doesnt deserve treatment!!! (aka he should die) Chase: *pretty much kills the dictator to avoid a genocide* Cameron: how could you let him die, you're horrible!!!

[@vilefly]

@@mrroboshadow I've met people like this. Good believable character development, eh?

[@zamoraaz7392]

Fully agree, she seems to be all high and mighty about her morality only when it’s convenient rather than stick to them consistently

[@AllinWhenPlaying]

Agreed entirely. Never liked that two faced, bleeding heart, high horse riding hypocrite. Taub, as scummy as he could be at times - at least was either aware of his vices, didn't care about them but acknowledged them or actually reacted to people showing him who he is. Not to mention the whole "terminally ill crush syndrome". I was actually disappointed with House momentarily going for her.

[@AlaskanGhost]

@@mrroboshadow Oh no, Chase straight up killed him and Cameron called him ruined, she was just looking for an excuse to leave him.

[@shelbyrea9898]

House: i need youre written consent before I can start treatment. Husband: i don't know... House: good enough. I'll go start treatment

[@pastorcodymitchell1456]

lol i didn't even notice that

[@Jman7phxaz]

Doubt, In this instance, is good enough.

[@CasaNovack]

After watching the entire episode i don't get Cameron's logic at all. The only thing she says to House after calling the husband a bad person is that she married a dying man and sticked with him till he died. The husband does literally the same thing. He puts his trust in her, and stays with her the entire time hoping that she didn't cheat on him. He says that a part of him doesn't want her to get better because that part hopes that she wouldn't try to solve marriage problems by cheating. Only after she gets better and presumably tells him about the affair with his BEST FRIEND, he feels like she crossed the line and leaves her. There is a reason for rule "best friend's significant other is a no go" to be sacred rule of friendship. People saying that husband is bad because he wishes for his wife to die, only to prove her loyalty should turn on their brains. How would You feel if You got cheated on by two most important people in Your life, who then pretended that nothing happened.

[@smithsmith1956]

You expect vvomen to have logic?

[@urao.o2340]

Honestly, I feel like women in love are going to forgive their cheating spouse in a blink of eye. Especially when they formed deep commitment with this person. If the cheating person is genuinely sorry, it wouldn’t change their relationship much for women. I think some study showed that women mind spiritual cheating much more than physical cheating; and men tend to mind more about physical cheating instead of spiritual cheating.

[@b.c.9358]

@@urao.o2340 Do you mean emotional affairs?

[@shuepsx652]

Everyone understands the husband not wanting to discover that she was unfaithful. The problem comes when you put one option against the other. Would you rather your partner having an affair or having them die? If the answer is the latter it can be read as putting more value on faithfulness than human life, the life of someone you supposedly love. Again, I think the husband's mixed emotions are understandable and probably what would happen to most people in his situation, but it's not very admirable to prefer someone to be dead rather than you feeling betrayed. Cameron seemed to focus on the last part and add her own trauma to the situation

[@amazon7891]

Where did you watch the entire episode?

[@habsfan8768]

He doesn't want her to die, he just wishes it didn't prove she cheated...and it in no way makes him a terrible person. A terrible person would call cheating on your happy spouse a "mistake" and nothing more...

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

That's what people fail to understand

[@GBU61]

The foundation of a healthy relationship involves trust, honesty and respect. She broke all three and did it with his friend. One of the worst things a wife can do to her husband.

[@marywindt902]

And how much of his Perfect life was he paying attention to? Or was it that she's always been there, without recognition. Just because.?

[@brmbkl]

@@marywindt902 cheating definitely solved that

[@RealRocdad]

Been there... Divorced, 30 years later still untrustworthy it's not about love or forgiveness simply about trust...

[@gabrielbjornursidae]

@@marywindt902 If you're unhappy, leave. Don't be subhuman scum worthy of a bullet.

[@oTouchMe]

An accident is an incident that is unintentional and unexpected. (not your fault) A mistake is what happens after you've made the decision to do or say something that turns out wrong.(your fault)

[@andrewmcbridemusic]

Cameron called him a terrible person for being human. If any of us were in his shoes we would have the same feelings. Cameron would too. But he can admit it to himself and Cameron can't. Cameron is projecting her own hatred of that part of herself onto him

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

do you know what day it is?

[@surlespasdondine]

Cameron hates herself for wanting her husband to die, so she was actually talking about herself.

[@PJOZeus]

Cameron's not defending the wife, she's defending herself. She has committed and goes on to commit plenty of heinous things. The wife betrayed her husband. Cameron's angry and depressed that she can't get away with it.

[@johnwinchesterp2963]

Well she had an emotional affair but she didn't go all the way. So you are right that she might project herself to the wife a bit.

[@PJOZeus]

She's had more than an emotional affair, certainly sleeps around enough even if not@@johnwinchesterp2963

[@joshuaperez9147]

“She made a mistake” No she made a choice.

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

Exactly, mistakes are only made on accident or when there's not enough time to make a decision

[@shuepsx652]

Choices can be mistakes, they are not mutually exclusive

[@Smasho8000]

@@shuepsx652 cheaters' gonna cheat.

[@RiteshSingh-po7tm]

@@shuepsx652 true, but some mistakes require repercussions, cause given by that logic every person should be pardoned for anything they do cause its all choices that were mistakes as for cheating its best to keep this rule, if you feel like cheating then please leave you SO and then go ahead with it, cause yes people might cheat by "mistake" but many times then naught its not the only time it would happen again Also please treat cheating men same way as cheating women, cause see any video where gender role is reversed and husband is vilified to the ground, while people by sympathetic to the woman and treat it like the guy's fault that she cheated

[@shuepsx652]

@@RiteshSingh-po7tm I didn't mean to imply that because they are mistakes they should be forgiven or there should be no consequences. No one is entitled to that because they are able to recognise that they made a mistake. Regarding how people react to someone cheating depending on their gender, you'll find both comments giving excuses for the person and comments demonizing them regardless of the gender. The personal feelings and biases of the people commenting are usually obvious and we (the readers) have our own biases and might remember more the comments that unfairly target our gender. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, cheating is breaking a promise to someone you supposedly love or at least care about knowing that it would most likely hurt them while benefitting the cheater. It's a shellfish thing to do and fixating on gender and other factors only helps to keeps focus away from that

[@atrumluminarium]

Differentials with Wilson in the room have such a flow to them it's amazing

[@musical_lolu4811]

Turns out she was doing her husband's gym friend who had caught it doing a woman in (probably) Angola.

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

does it make you a terrible person?.... ... ... ... ... yes...

[@spxdel8520]

For anyone wondering she did start recovering and he did leave her for it and good on him if she told him I'd of had more sympathy but the fact that he didn't find out until her life depended on it is awful and he deserves better, if that was me I wouldn't have even talked about it with her if she had years before hand to bring it up and talk about it and decided to hide it and let someone walk around without knowing there was someone else theres no need for him to sit down and talk about it with her when she didn't afford him that decency

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

Ikr? Just look at Will Smith, he talked about it.

[@marlonecampbell1750]

I find it amusing when the female cheats and the man can't deal with it, can't forgive, has to leave. Its not usually so the other way around. I think sometimes the other person, especially the woman doesn't tell because they feel ashamed or fearful of losing the relationship. I think its hard to bear but can be overcome especially if it was not a continuous affair.

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

@@marlonecampbell1750 No one should cheat period. Also no self-respecting man is gonna stay with you after you cheat, so you might wanna re-evaluate the kinda men you're dating

[@marlonecampbell1750]

@@The_Cringe_Connoisseur Good I'm not dating!!. I was referring to the usual expectations . I think there's place for forgiveness. The Bible speaks to divorce due to the hardness of hearts. But that's another matter.

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

@@marlonecampbell1750 The Bible also speaks against adultery, and I never said a man shouldn't forgive, that would be for his own good anyway. It's more personal that, what men don't like to admit is that it's always their fault when they get cheated on, usually because they were too weak to gain the respect of their women. Still doesn't change the fact that leaving some one that cheated on you is the right thing to do, or else the relationship will be abusive. Would you stay with a man that cheats on you?

[@scottys1423]

Its not just her cheating, even if only once. This woman risked a high probability of dying rather than admit her affair. How do you ever trust her again?

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

you thought she was perfect you thought wrong kiddo🤣💀

[@tentayeprimo6674]

I can't help but feel Cameron was projecting a bit

[@victorpradha9946]

A bit? Cameron later says that she had an opportunity to be unfaithful to her dying husband with a friend that provided her moral support as he got worse. She did NOT take the friend up on the offer. On some level, Cameron wished that she had. Thus, she's sympathetic to the wife, but oddly UNSYMPATHETIC to the husband. Why? Because if the husband rejects the wife for her infidelity, it would like Cameron's husband rejecting her had she actually gone through with the offer posed by the friend. Cameron insinuated herself into the position of the wife in her mind.

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

DUHHH

[@matthewhall7976]

Ya know it's funny, house convinces a lifetime partner in a minute she cheated on him on a passing thought but I say it and prove it and he's no longer my friend😅 "people are idiots" -House.. Lmao

[@AsianShadowrunner]

House has that "gift" to prove *everybody lies.* In real life, people tend to shoot the messenger. It's a hard truth to swallow.

[@Evans327]

House did it, as a doctor, to save her life tho. Idk why you did it, but I imagine circumstances were different.

[@birichinaxox9937]

Shoot the message is unfortunate a true human instinct

[@j.dragon651]

Never tell a friend he or she is being cheated on. It never goes well.

[@justinlong977]

She payin her own hospital bill lol

[@FiyaAnt]

The beginning of this episode with the husband running with his wife's cheater. Your replacement is always closer than you think.

[@EternalWarrior1988]

and that is why "bro's before hoes" is a saying, because we all know it's not true. That's the deep seeded truth behind most sayings, an attempt to convince yourself of an untruth.

[@Vince-tt1uj]

Dude should return the favor and sleep with his friends' wife now.

[@yosutzuhruoj]

All women cheat at some point, that's just a sad fact of life. The replacement is generally someone they deem "better", but as usual, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

[@avastinnett9447]

It's always interesting to see the early seasons of this show. Hugh Laurie really grew and relaxed into the character of House. Phenomenal actor, as are the others.

[@marlenathorvald]

If you're wife cheats and lies about it " it means she made a mistake no one is perfect and your a terrible person if you leave her" but If men cheat they are scum... That's interesting how tv pushes that

[@jonnyenough1531]

Who controls the media??

[@marlenathorvald]

@@jonnyenough1531 😉

[@silverreverence6176]

You’re right it’s so cringy

[@fruzsimih7214]

Cameron is a very flawed and questionable character on this show. She's not exactly a moral compass.

[@coffee5862]

​@@jonnyenough1531tiny hats

[@Nashia_zzz]

8:24 No. That doesn’t make you a terrible person. You have every right to get upset when your partner cheats on you.

[@nathananderson7962]

Cheating is never just "a mistake". It's a conscious choice. He didn't want his wife to die, he just didn't want to find out she was cheating on him.

[@jaimhaas5170]

There goes Cameron...lobbing rocks from her glass house.

[@starguy2718]

If Cameron didn't have double standards, she wouldn't have any standards at all.

[@Tristum1970]

‘I hope she doesn’t get better ‘ - Left alone with patient

[@marlonecampbell1750]

Lol

[@Roddarzz]

😆 🤣

[@nickniehaus1763]

True

[@BlueberryPlays_]

Bro was cheated on and got called a horrible person wtf

[@hermann5347]

Women logic. It´s always his fault.

[@koyomiararagl]

yep, when i saw that scene i was like "????" is that france for some reason where everyone cheats and paternity tests are banned?

[@urosasin8979]

What makes this episode even more heartbreaking is that the wife slept with the husband's friend from the beginning of the episode.

[@hafeeez87]

His "friend" already has a family too. Which made it more messed up.

[@surlespasdondine]

when do we learn this?

[@jeffmoodie6144]

The correct answer was, “No, it makes you human”. I honestly was expecting that would be the answer.

[@vickikurniawan3870]

"Is that make me a terrible person?" I would say. "No it just make you a person. Not good not bad. It is only natural'

[@s.f.f.f.t11]

7:54 Whilst I am against violence, Cameron always makes it very tempting

[@tjjordan4207]

Cameron: "It means she made a mistake." Seriously, why is that always used as an excuse?! Yes, it's a mistake. But it's one she knowingly made, which makes it a betrayal.

[@bill6]

Lincoln broke out of prison and made his way to House

[@greypilgrim228]

No Cameron, it makes us human. None of us want to think of the one we love having cheated on us, it doesn't make us bad people to hold out hope that it's not true. Clearly he doesn't want her to die or get worse, it just means he's hoping that his entire marriage isn't build on a hill of lies, yet resigned to the fact it most likely is.

[@kirtipriya12]

Not everyone is same. I don't care about cheating at all. Rather I care about the person whom I love and who would have died. She already got punished, she didn't need more punishment by him leaving her.

[@matinaki1644]

​@@kirtipriya12he left for his sanity and dignity. You can stay all you want, you can't make others tolerate lies and deceit.

[@TheMonkeyyBusiness]

Watching House MD in 2022 for the first time and I am screaming my lungs out to everyone to watch this masterpiece!!! ❤️

[@musical_lolu4811]

Never too late. Never gets old. Welcome.

[@TheDustifiable1986]

Lol parts of it are almost funnier now then they were when they aired, mostly cause of irony

[@dianehenkel9088]

Isn’t House the best? Used to watch and try to figure out the illness because I was a nurse. Loved his saying everybody lies, saw it a lot.

[@jaimhaas5170]

It has powerful mojo for those who can dish out as well as take it.

[@channelwonnews4322]

yeh = )

[@ZackyZombify]

Dude, that’s Dracula. Someone should warn House

[@tyrannosaurusrex4600]

Forman was wampire too in dracula 2000

[@annaw1298]

I’m with the husband.

[@michaelmcdoesntexist1459]

Congratz, he was kinda hot.

[@victorpradha9946]

@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 In a refined bruiser kind of way!

[@The_Cringe_Connoisseur]

@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 I need friends like you

[@grahamguthrie2423]

I wish these video's were not cut short we don't ever see the outcome, it's like reading a book without the last page.

[@Guanda70]

Cameron. Always thinks people don't deserve the punishment. Only mercy.

[@jreeves1666]

He should get himself tested and get a divorce attorney.

[@starwarfan8342]

House seemed more polite and tactful in earlier seasons. Quieter, but still managing to get the message across.

[@JasonCDrake-cx3wl]

He doesn't 'seem' more polite. He was written more outrageous from season 5 onward to keep views up. Remember when he drives a monster truck

[@michaelmcdoesntexist1459]

Is not a matter of views. House gets bitter because his life and the choices he made all those years made him bitter. He broke up again with Stacy, the leg pain got worse, he was incriminated by a corrupt cop, he got shot by a stranger, Amber died, Kutner died, found his father wasn't his father, alucinated, failed detox, broke up with Cuddy, got to Jail, etc. I'm not saying some of those things werent his fault, but him becoming a worse person is actually understandable

[@andreil1313]

@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 it’s perfectly on character

[@adreak9868]

@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 The cop wasn't corrupt. House was guilty of everything the cop accused him of.

[@boraaksitozgun9912]

Cop was a criminal technically. You can't trip up a handicapped doctor because he used mean words against you. What house should've done at that time was sue instead of "probe". And Wilson opening up to some bad cop like that was the height of betrayal in a friendship, find some other way to "save" your friend instead of giving more "gifts" to a cop who takes pleasure in incriminating your friend...but yes, House was guilty

[@sn.m]

Cameron is so self-righteous here. Mistake indeed!! And no compassion for the husband who just got the news.

[@koyomiararagl]

no woman will ever have any compassion for any man in this world never, if they seem they do, its a lie

[@tristen_grant]

@@koyomiararagl Who hurt you?

[@kiara198923]

The only docs I know of who gives their own patients the meds, counseling, etc.

[@juliehealey2579]

Dr used to do all that

[@stiles217]

Cameron is the face of hypocrisy

[@zovalentine7305]

"I don't NO" Perfect answer

[@Vinicius-ux4qx]

Patient: Nobody is perfect. Cameron: I guess 😇

[@rafrecon]

This reminds me why I hated Cameron. The fact she says he's terrible for basically saying he wouldn't want to be with a wife that cheated is insanely stupid. It makes her, to me, one of the morally worse characters in the show.

[@caglayantilsim]

Why?

[@arjunholmie]

no, she said hes terrible for wanting his wide to not get better, aka to die, just because his wife cheated

[@jeester27]

No he's saying he wishes she didn't get better so it means she didn't cheat. He already chose to accept the procedure to save her life. Whether she lives or not cements his trust in their relationship. If she died, he might get to live widowed by a loyal wife. That is his literal best case scenario at this point. That sucks.

[@rafrecon]

​@@arjunholmie True, I mispoke. But it isn't just that. At least the way I would take it is that he wishes that it would be something else, because if she gets better from this, then it's proof she cheated. He also sayd he couldn't forgive her (or unsure if he can) right before, so it is also about being together.

[@rafrecon]

@@jeester27 Yes I wrote it incorrectly. Still, like I said in other post, he talks about if he would be able to forgive her, and doesn't know if he could. So it is somewhat also about their relationship afterwards

[@docproc144]

What makes this worse is the fact that later in the episode it’s revealed that she cheated on him with his close friend. He ends up leaving her, and to be honest, I don’t blame him at all.

[@catherinewilliams9680]

Excellent American accent. The husband is actually Australian.

[@55Quirll]

A good actor from ' Prison Break ' and Blade Trilogy

[@nightcorekensington8841]

@@55Quirll It's funny both prison break actors were on this show, then prison break, one was on ghost whisper, then both ended up in the arrowverse for a while

[@55Quirll]

@@nightcorekensington8841 I don't recall the second actor, only Dominic Purcell

[@nightcorekensington8841]

@@55Quirll Wentworth Miller

[@fredhughes4115]

This show was always notable for a flawless american accent from an actor who was decidedly not american.

[@kingraiden2525]

I think the beauty of it is how varying the flaws are... Everyone has their own set of thoughts and it can be good or bad. Cameron too was flawed

[@jerlaine1638]

Absolutely does NOT make him a terrible person, and just goes to prove what a witch Cameron can be for supporting it

[@mey7614]

Doesn't even matter your stands on cheating, he is grieving. He is grieving his relationship and his partner. It's not weird to experience intense emotions, be that rage or sorrow, what matters most is what you do with those feelings. He is allowed to feel hurt and betrayed, as long as he doesn't actually kill her who can blame him. Extreme situation, extreme emotions. Makes sense to me.

[@NarcolypticNinja]

The fact remains, she cheated. He's not a bad person for wanting to walk away.

[@briansamaniego-howard1806]

The number of things that have to happen in order for you to go through with the act of cheating, makes it not a mistake.

[@Just_Pele]

"It means she made a mistake." No. A mistake is leaving a red sock in with the white towels and turning them pink. Being married and getting pounded by a stranger isn't an "oopsie".

[@brenna7757]

Gotta say, that was the freakiest thing when the spiders started bursting out of her arm🤯😬, I was NOT expecting that!

[@edwardwatts2566]

Cheating is never a mistake, it’s a choice. If a spouse cheats the only option is divorce

[@Plethorality]

when you are hallucinating, i bet those sceaching violins don't help.

[@amandamachado9500]

it doesn't make him a terrible person, it makes him a human being 🙄

[@blacktimhoward4322]

Dr. House: I can't start the treatment without your written consent Also Dr. House: Your 15 seconds are up, I'm starting the treatment

[@abaskasem69]

Yeah, he isn't a terrible person, she is. Imagine someone betraying you and lying to death to keep you in the dark and somehow you are the bad person. Victim blaming at its finest.

[@Chet73]

Bingo

[@rayunited2010foryou]

Wife: Nobody's perfect, right? 1:12 Cameron: 'I guess, but I think I am'

[@barrybritcher]

House was a great series. Wow throwback to the good days

[@my75laguna]

If the wife cheats she just made a mistake and he should forgive her but if the husband cheats then he deserves to die.

[@alexanderelderhorst2107]

8:20 I disagree. I take faithfulness very seriously. I'm not married, but I would not be able to handle my wife cheating on me and would leave her, because I put every effort into not sleeping with anyone already due to my christian faith, and IF I get married I would be solely hers. Men are chastised so much for being unfaithful and you wanna throw double standards and say it's fine for women to do it because it's a mistake? If it's not r*** then she actively chose to defy you and break the bond between you, abusing your trust in her. If she did it once then who's to say she won't do it again? I cannot even fathom trusting my wife after she betrays me in the worst way possible. So no he is not a bad person for valuing faithfulness and trust in a partner. And wanting her to not get better from this treatment as proof in his mind that his trust was not misplaced, as a way to cope with the situation and potential discovery, then no he's not a bad person. He wants her to get better, but if it means she did cheat on him, then if it were me then the relationship would be over as soon as we walk out of that hospital. Or if she needs me to stay to care for her for a set period of time, then I will stay until she is fully recovered. Some people are WAY too open and accepting of one of the most disgraceful acts against your partner, where's your value in marriage these days? Again, men are chastised so often about one "mistake" and then you're going to throw that "mistake" bs at him? No screw you he is NOT a horrible person.

[@amandaconstanza]

"I put every effort into not sleeping with anyone" I found that interesting, why do it if it is such an effort? I am just asking out of curiosity.

[@richardclaus4751]

You folk know that Cameron is a character reacting to lines written by 2-3 other people?

[@jbtechcon7434]

Logically, the husband should have *refused* to approve the treatment. If she dies, it only proves she cheated on him, so he'll get to collect life insurance and start a new life instead of going through an expensive divorce.

[@StreetDrilla]

But its a bit selfish since, by that proposition if she dies then yes its technically her fault, if she doesn't then she was honest. What about the chance of still saving her even if all of this is her fault for lying. But is it better for the world she lives? What if she hurts more people?

[@jbtechcon7434]

@@StreetDrilla But if he approves the treatment and as a result she lives, now what? He has to choose between living this life with a lying cheater or losing a lot of his money to her in a divorce. He doesn't deserve either of those fates, let alone to be forced to choose between them.

[@StreetDrilla]

@@jbtechcon7434 He can do whatevers best for him. I guess when you think of it like that, then just “trust” her by not approving treatment.

[@DiveroftheDepths55]

Cheating is and will never be a "Mistake"

[@KaiserBruh]

dude if it was the guy who cheated, Cameron would have been absolutely petty and condescending to him but bc its the husband saying he is afraid that his wife is cured bc it'll mean she cheated on him, Cameron glares at him, saying it was "only a mistake", that he's a bad person for resenting her SHE CHEATED ON HIM HOW IS HE THE BAD PERSON I HATE CAMERON

[@Goibniu001]

💯

[@markturner4219]

Gotta love how when a guy commits adultery he gets to be called a cheating scumbag or worse. When a woman commits adultery - it's always a 'mistake' that the guy has to forgive or he's a terrible person.

[@jdm1066]

Cameron is and always was absolutely Insufferable. Feelings over Facts... Style over Substance... House wanted to tell people the truth no matter what. Cameron wanted to lie to make herself feel better about life.

[@joannebohan2243]

Lol my cat is so concerned for the patients well Being !!😂😂😂

[@neonnwave1]

Cheating is never a mistake. It's a conscience decision made by an individual. The only time it's not is if the person was drugged unknowingly or deceived by a predator, which is rare.

[@vert2552]

8:40 Does fck no. This part got me mad. I fully underatand this guy. Hevreally loves her and its not like he wants her dead, but at the same time with orospect of her cheating on him, his partner, the one he trusts, with idea of that, part of him hopes HE is wrong and she is loyal, making him the bad but with extension of her getting worse. That was so fucked up to say by Cameron

[@gabrielbjornursidae]

"It means she made a mistake," No, it means she made a choice and that she doesn't love him. Big difference, Cameron.

[@ascent8487]

Cheaters are people who’d answer yes to that question.

[@froggiman1]

So she cheats, he feels bad, and he's a terrible person. Got it!

[@AmericanHollyTree]

He's a terrible person for hoping his wife would die just so he wouldn't have to deal with the fact that she's human and makes shitty decisions sometimes.

[@sozbdulrhmanli3300]

👁️👄👁️

[@monarkjain613]

@@AmericanHollyTree I am sure you would be this understanding if the roles were reversed.

[@dani0479]

@@monarkjain613 i’m a woman and I agree with Holy and would still feel the same even if the genders were reversed. Despite the hate, anger, and betrayal, a person shouldn’t wish death to another especially to a person they love for a long time. He can get angry with her, divorce her, leave her but he shouldn’t wish her death. Two wrong things does not make one right. Makes one wonder if he really did love her or just loved the perfect idea of her .

[@monarkjain613]

@@dani0479 tbf he did say a part of him wishes. I just think it's difficult to judge this unless you have been in that position.

[@EdFuller]

"Does that make me a terrible person?" "For tv programming purposes, yes".

[@ericgarcia4745]

If I remember correctly, it was his best friend that she was having an affair with.

[@mindfulbynicole]

I don't think it makes him a terrible person.. It just makes him human. He doesn't want her to die, but getting better means that she cheated on him. Alternatively if he agreed to the medication - based on what we're told about it, she would get so much worse and he would have signed off on it based on his lack of faith in her. The love of his life is dying. His emotions are meant to be running haywire, thinking of all the possible scenarios. I don't think he doesn't want her to get better out of some sort of revenge for what she did, he just doesn't want to believe she would do that.

[@tatakae1981]

Cameron’s “Mary Sue” act is as annoying as it is hypocritical. She thought that the husband was a terrible person for not wanting his cheating wife to recover. I’m certain that if the shoe was on the other foot in which he was the cheater, then Cameron would thought the wife was justified.

[@ArtificialQT]

You know the disease is terrifying when the “cure” has to be transported in a glass case with “Biohazard” logos plastered all over it.

[@D2RCR]

Melarsoprol is nasty stuff. It really is basically arsenic in antifreeze (it's not water soluble, so it has to be dissolved in propylene glycol).

[@entcraft44]

That prop looked really cool, and the glass syringes are actually necessary - kind of. You could use plastic syringes if you work quickly. (I did look it up because I didn't quite believe it.) The drug is called Melarsoprol. The thing dissolving plastic in the drug is just propylene glycol, literally the main component of some antifreeze (since the drug is insoluble in water and propylene glycol is nontoxic (side remark: That doesn't mean that all the stuff in all antifreeze is nontoxic, don't drink that!)) The biohazard symbol is not applicable, unless they would transfer the used glass syringes back in that case. It is clearly just for effect in the show.

[@biibris9950]

It's not easy to trust someone who did you like that. It's just not possible, unless u have no self respect.

[@obliquelycod]

What bugs me about this scene is that what he's expressing is a reasonable feeling. Emphasis on feeling. He's expressing a struggle with the idea of her infidelity and subsequent dishonesty, that he can't work through yet because she's not awake. While he waits for her to get better he's just stuck stewing on it. He's human too, in an incredibly stressful situation - his wife is dying in the hospital, and the only proposed cure both has a 10% mortality rate and only works if she had an affair. He's not at his best, he can't take the time to go to therapy right now, and he really just needs to be reassured that it's reasonable to feel conflicted and to struggle in this moment. If he really would rather she died he wouldn't have authorized the treatment. It just sucks to dunk on someone who's in the worst moment of their life instead of reassuring them that their dark thoughts (not actions) are human and they can choose to be better than them later.

[@StreetDrilla]

The character doctor lady I'm pretty sure has cheated or something and that patient reminded her of her so thats why she had to say that since she felt attacked or exposed

[@catherinewilliams9680]

Watching this episode and then watching Cameron in the 7th and 8th seasons you see her growth as a person.

[@misanthropos6211]

Love finding a comment section where everyone is united. Cameron's hypocrisy and self-rightousness infuriated everyone.