The Second Battle of Cirta, 106 BC ⚔️ | Concluding the Jugurthine War (part 3)

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House of History

House of History

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@anglowarrior7970
@anglowarrior7970 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always! U should make a series on the First Punic War where u cover much of the battles. It is one of the most interesting periods in roman history and very important for Europe and much of the world
@mbathroom1
@mbathroom1 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the romans survived and DEFEATED their enemies when literally completely surrounded and not very prepared. Shows you how incredible their army is
@skyhappy
@skyhappy 2 жыл бұрын
How is it different than not being surrounded, a fight is a fight
@landonlacy1954
@landonlacy1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyhappy is that a serious question? I truly can’t tell as the answer to it Is pretty obvious
@skyhappy
@skyhappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@landonlacy1954 answer if you can
@landonlacy1954
@landonlacy1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyhappy you seriously need this explained to you? Lol very well Well being in a battle where you are completely surrounded. Creates a lot of problems for the poor bastards that become surrounded. Mainly the problem is they are completely surrounded. Lol You have to understand that ever since armies began deploying in military formations. One of the main goals of any military commander was almost always and universally. To attack an enemies exposed flanks. Or to create a situation where the enemy is forced into or tricked into exposing their flanks. The unprotected sides and rear of an enemy formation. This is because large formations of men once locked into a fight. Are almost always fighting and pushing in one direction. Forward. And once an enemy formation is locked into a fight in front of them. It makes them concentrate on what’s in front of them. And causes them to be unprepared for separate attacks from different directions and makes it very difficult for the enemy formation to effectively respond to being attacked in their rear or their flanks. Especially if the flank attack is unexpected. Your fighting an enemy in front of you. Then without warning all the sudden you aren’t just having to deal with the enemy in front of you. You now have an enemy to deal with in the rear and enemies to deal with on both your right and your left. Everywhere you look the enemy is there. You no longer have a way to escape The biggest enemy a formation of warriors faces is not the men trying to kill them. The biggest enemy is fear. Fear on a battlefield is more contagious than any disease or virus, and the effects it can have on large formations of men. Are damn near unimaginable unless you have actually seen it. Discipline disappears and even the most experienced of warriors are valuable to its effects. and individual survival becomes the sole focus of every man in that formation. And once the discipline disappears, so does the organized formation and advantages and protection it offers. A sword can kill a man. But Fear can kill an entire army. And nothing creates more fear on an ancient battlefield. Than being surrounded. The possible disadvantages that being surrounded can create are endless. There is a reason why surrounding an enemy has always been an obvious goal of any army on any battlefield. This isn’t rocket science
@skyhappy
@skyhappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@landonlacy1954 I appreciate the long response. But when a group of men in a circle are surrounded and facing the outside of the circle, all of them are facing the enemy and simply have to fight the person in front of them. The enemy cannot attack them from the rear because the circle is tight and and all these battle animations that I've seen I've never seen the enemy penetrate that circle and attack them from behind, it's always that the enemy slowly makes the circle smaller. You say that it creates fear because all the soldiers see is the enemy but this is the same thing when a soldier is on the front line, all they see is the enemy. In this video for example the Roman army on the left was surrounded but the managed to find them all perfectly fine. Can you give a first hand account of a soldier who was surrounded with his army.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
Won’t be the last time Sulla saves the day.
@RodolfoGaming
@RodolfoGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Think this is the first time he saved the day
@ninjaa6952
@ninjaa6952 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of weird how this battle is not very popular considering it was very bloody with up to 70,000 numidian casualties.
@massinissadz8412
@massinissadz8412 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, a story that will remain engraved. JUGURTHA was one of the greatest resistance fighters against the Roman Empire, his war had lasted 7 years. Thank you again for your exceptional work 🙏🏻
@pyrrhus3445
@pyrrhus3445 2 жыл бұрын
“ Hercules! how cold this Roman bath is! “ Damnn Jugurtha really had a sense of humor!
@Dokja0
@Dokja0 2 жыл бұрын
Another good series.
@HoH
@HoH 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm happy to hear that
@Dokja0
@Dokja0 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoH I found this channel recently and I have loved all the series I have seen. Keep up the good work.
@WeNeedHagiaBack
@WeNeedHagiaBack 2 жыл бұрын
Kings and generals just cant compete with our smooth talking house of history, great job mate excellent as always
@mbathroom1
@mbathroom1 2 жыл бұрын
kings and generals makes some great stuff from time to time but they upload too often and have lower quality than they once did
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't disagree more. Unit cohesion above all else.
@declanruane5588
@declanruane5588 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbathroom1 nahh they have definitely been scaling up the quality while also putting out an incredible amount of content
@nourerrahmanebrahmia4035
@nourerrahmanebrahmia4035 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Algeria, jugurtha is considered a national hero
@ofallmyintention9496
@ofallmyintention9496 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...That was a complete disaster for Numidia.
@MM22966
@MM22966 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that is scary: do everything right, complete tactical surround of the enemy, better mobility, Cannae 2.0 in the making...and the legions just REFUSE to come out from behind their shields & break, until the tables get turned on you. Classic heavy infantry vs. raider battle. Do we have any idea how long the battle lasted, especially the first phase?
@FreeFallingAir
@FreeFallingAir 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Great breakdowns and very entertaining. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Nice to know more about little known time periods.
@littlesaints91
@littlesaints91 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! But came to think about one thing, we know that the Romans changed position of their frontlines with their backlines so the frontline always had as fresh soldiers as possible. So if it would not be to animation heavy to include it would be nice to see the frontline and backline change position, would also show how the Romans could come up ahead when the odds are stacked against them.
@HoH
@HoH 2 жыл бұрын
Really good suggestion, I will see what I can do. Thanks!
@ΠάνοςΚΜ
@ΠάνοςΚΜ 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see some of the battles of Herakleios against Persia
@clarkstartrek
@clarkstartrek 2 жыл бұрын
Some books postulate that Jugertha was strangled and the body thrown into the Cloaca Maxima under Rome.
@oskareriksson2202
@oskareriksson2202 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the bodies of enemy generals strangled After the Triumph often was thrown there in the cesspool. There wasnt Mercy for the defeated enemy.
@anhtran6113
@anhtran6113 2 жыл бұрын
It was likely that Jugurtha could no longer command his subordinates (including his brother). After such a devastated loss in the battlefield, Jugurtha's generals were likely to planned a political coup to shift the Roman's blame on their king. Without a strong political support in his own kingdom, Jugurtha had no option other than bidding on Bacchus I. And Bacchus didn't let his opportunity wasted.
@Thomas_Name
@Thomas_Name Жыл бұрын
If you are reading this, I think videos about early Hungarian and Bulgarian history could be popular.
@harryschlotter3403
@harryschlotter3403 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how Yoghurt was made
@Cacastacio
@Cacastacio 2 жыл бұрын
loved the video
@DeRegelaar
@DeRegelaar 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@anasanas-ky5qm
@anasanas-ky5qm 2 жыл бұрын
Please série for macabean revolt
@SelmaSeptembre
@SelmaSeptembre 7 ай бұрын
Cirta in algeria
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 2 жыл бұрын
SPQR
@johncherskov5755
@johncherskov5755 2 жыл бұрын
Of course it's the african/black king who rode around boasting, and doing things like this. Jugirtha acted as a troll and the stereotype of what you'd expect. People who suddenly claim Africa invented things and was only held back by colonization need only look at the tribal divisions and conduct of any king who managed to unify most tribes together. They surely had access to all technologies and techniques between Europe, the East, even the silk road, and it seeped into Africa essentially freely; so they had technologies, they didn't generally invent, and if ever did, they still did things like this and usually lost in battles anyway with over 2x the numbers and ambushes. Fast forward to today and it's rife with corruption. Makes me wonder why those racists in the west ever claim africa and black leaders should be actually listened to; even their record in the west after parasiting infrastructure then running cities like Detroit and Chicago is not great. Those racists really should shut their mouth unless they want to really see what their history and people do when it's not simply ignored or forgiven like the equal rights movement gave.
@SuperChuckRaney
@SuperChuckRaney 2 жыл бұрын
What makes you think he was black?
@pyrrhus3445
@pyrrhus3445 2 жыл бұрын
North Africans Numidians wasn’t black man
@BlackOps78321
@BlackOps78321 2 жыл бұрын
@@pyrrhus3445 Yes, they weren't capable I guess. Even so it's the North Africa nations/culture, even if it was temporarily ruled by a Muslim, Hellinistic, or other leader, Jugurtha's actions in evading and on the battlefield (then lieing saying 'he killed the enemy commander!' to try to scare people off when he didn't yet, and losing with 3x the numbers) is exactly what you would expect from the African regions, and such corruption continues there to this day. I can see the major point even if the small details are off.
@SuperChuckRaney
@SuperChuckRaney 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackOps78321 yelling "THE KING HAS FALLEN" seems a legit move tho. People would lose heart. These people arent black by any stretch of the imagination. They are a cosmopolitan Mediteranian people, Greek based mostly with lots of Arab thrown in there. (even tho most of the population on the Arab penninsula doesnt consider themselves Arab)
@Zakariya3603
@Zakariya3603 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackOps78321 It doesn't mean much when you consider that Jugurtha had an army of literal peasants fighting a professional army but consider the fact that his tactical decisions were very sound and made a lot of sense in the broader context like at Muthul where he attacked the weak points of the stretched-out 35,000 strong Roman army with only 20,000 men and the Romans could only feint a retreat to save themselves, in fact many historians consider Muthul to have a tactical victory for the Numidians and only strategic for the Romans. Put any great commander in there, Hannibal, Alexander, Napoleon, Frederick the great, Almanzor and they would have fucked up harder than Jugurtha.
@generaltso8278
@generaltso8278 2 жыл бұрын
Can barely hear you
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@danielc6925
@danielc6925 2 жыл бұрын
The Romans had a better cavalry ? That's strange, they usually had a very good infantry
@oskareriksson2202
@oskareriksson2202 3 ай бұрын
In hand to hand combat, the Roman outclass the numidians. The numidians was mainly light cavalrymen throwing javelins with hit and run attacks, then retreat before being catched by a counter charge, but if catched, sometime did happen, a Roman equites in full Amour was like a tank against a car against a Numidian knights armed with a knife, javelins, barefoot and only with the tunic, only the Numidian royal guarda, the bodyguard of the generale was armoured. But was a minority. The Roman equites and gallic thracian cavalry was like a tank passing over a car in a hand to hand combat against such light cavalry. The strenght of the numidians was hit and run attacks, then when the enemy was half beaten by missiles, in loose formation and tired they Attack with knives and Swords , to finish off the job, but if catched by a formation of equites charging in formation, it was a massacre. The Numidian cavalry had no chance in that. Light cavalry vs heavy cavalry.
@youtubedeletedmebcuzisuppo8502
@youtubedeletedmebcuzisuppo8502 2 жыл бұрын
This guy's S are so ssssss
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