How 2 Girls Destroyed PopularMMOs Life

[@ShamPee]

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[@IslaRoseAtkinson]

Honestly though It’s gonna be quite hard to believe who is telling the truth, Elini and Liz or Pat since the two girls denied Pat’s statement and Pat denied both girls statements

[@lisahilton2426]

He's back it seems like he's doing well in life.

[@sebastiannguyen8269]

​@@lisahilton2426 Who knows for how long thou, I hope pat can get jen back for some Minecraft lucky block video and mods.

[@Snout-kg2mi]

​@@sebastiannguyen8269 Ngl I think jen is someone who has the power to help the situation and fix pats mental even if they don't get back together just if they get in touch

[@FlappyFiggleBottoms]

can i drink you

[@AUDuBs]

man whats up with childhood youtubers and either being exposed for horrible stuff or just going down a rabbit hole of misery. its lowkey kinda sad

[@csm.playmate2861]

I didn't watch the full video but heard of the accusations he received and im assuming that you're referring to that. They're false. And have been proven so.

[@AUDuBs]

@@csm.playmate2861 thank goodness for that, but those accusations are gonna stick with him for quite a while i feel :/ but im also regarding to other ytbers who seemed to have gone down some nutty paths in life

[@atomic2920]

We can still circle back to Dan tdm if it all goes to hell at least

[@Leafeater09]

@@atomic2920 Oh god I hope Dan doesn’t have things go bad for him.

[@atomic2920]

I don’t think it will cross our fingers, he’s a good guys and his family seems to be doing really well

[@PhoenixStarYT]

I'm not gonna lie, I am genuinely sad for Pat. This whole situation he's gotten into honestly makes me wish he can just catch a break, and I think he's doing great giving himself as much time as he is going to need to recover from all the crap that happened, and find himself again. This whole thing quite frankly is disgusting. Pat's community for constantly harassing people that he genuinely cared about, his girlfriend seemingly being extremely abusive to him, him even getting arrested despite having absolutely no intention to hurt anyone, it is all just very heartbreaking to see. I really hope that he's in a much better place now, and that he is taking all the time, and maybe even getting some much needed help to recover from it all. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for this amazing coverage of the topic. This story is something that many of us really needed to hear, myself included. And it's great to see someone finally did it proper justice after all this time. Keep up the good work, and you will make it big, I promise you that. -Koen Kist

[@EnergeticSpark63]

hey

[@Earthenchant-u5t]

All I'm just gonna say he was more happy with jen

[@PLASBEZ]

Cool name

[@EnergeticSpark63]

@@PLASBEZ hey

[@EnergeticSpark63]

@@PLASBEZ hey

[@Somewhere_Bagel]

PopularMMOs is currently engaged to someone who is also a bit of a gym nut like him, he made a legacy, has some great friends, made a podcasts for funsies and still on good terms with Jen and has his cat Cloud. even with the false allegations and fake Drama commentary channels try to start for views. he's still trying to live his best life. I say we get out of his face and let him live the rest of his days relaxing with his family and friends

[@Wasab1841]

Cloud still alive that makes me so happy man

[@MrGamer-rr9oj]

Exactly, leave our minecraft dad be. I'm an adult now but i'm proud to say he raised me and a number of people into adults with good personalities and morals. Don't start or spread things like this video that's just about making money and gaining attention off of someone else's misery and problems.

[@hybrid4770]

How do you know he’s engaged to someone?

[@Somewhere_Bagel]

@@hybrid4770 his socials and videos.

[@Donovanyesyeysysyeyes]

hes not engaged

[@sophiaisabelle027]

Abandonment is the worst feeling. Seems like you've been left out midair and nobody would ever catch you.

[@Iamprotected44-l1h]

💯

[@rileyandtylerdoesplayhome]

I miss him and Jen, but I know why they broke up. Ever since they broke up, Pat could never catch a break. All this is probably what unmotivated him. He is getting older which means he might want to not post as much or at all. I understand that and I hope you all do too. Everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect. I hope he knows he was my dad and Jen was my mom. They made me happy when my own parents couldn’t. They cheered me up after fights with my mom/dad. They made me feel good inside. My parents always asked what was so funny while watching their videos. I told them nothing when really it was them.

[@Apex.vcfx.]

Pat didn't want a kid 💀

[@azurotheazurerider8637]

@@Apex.vcfx. man, shut up. Yes he didn’t want a kid, but to many fans he’s like a parental figure. Now shoo

[@Apex.vcfx.]

@@azurotheazurerider8637 bro I put skull emoji bc it's the dumbest reason ever. I'm not judging pat decision because there's many reasons for it

[@azurotheazurerider8637]

@@Apex.vcfx. yeah yeah, still rude.

[@zncl..jac0b]

i feel you man, i really do

[@XN_starboy]

5:14 He fell asleep outside, got locked out, woke up, and magically had a knife while the doors were locked.

[@shibiki1361]

Right?

[@quarts5519]

women can easily ruin a mans life with their words, its the truth.

[@hyacinth_enthusiast]

Yeah, like what????

[@Mynameisntimpor1ant]

They trust woman more than the evidence

[@penguingamer2457]

That’s what I’m saying!

[@holypickleninjagaming]

I loved his channel, I watched it all the time as a kid. I never realized the poor man was going through this.

[@Reboppin]

Me too, I just learned this now, and I hope the guy gets better soon

[@Snout-kg2mi]

Yeah I don't think Pat is entirely in the wrong he is in a bad mental state and I hope he gets better.

[@lylevillanueva8624]

People grows, you grow, I grow and learn whats burried inside.

[@kayaksims]

I obviously believe the police reports about the knife thing with Pat and Liz, but if he had just woken up on the sidewalk and the doors to their house were locked, how did he get a medium-sized knife and how did the police not find it on him? The report states "the victim described the knife as..." how did they not find him with the knife. Also, if she had opened the door to come check on him and he started chasing her, wouldn't she just run back into the house? If she ran down the street she would have to deliberately run right by him. Not doubting the police report just saying some stuff doesn't add up.

[@RemnantsPvP]

my first thought

[@thegongoozler8539]

I am doubting the police report

[@INACTIVE12678]

@@JoshhGamess Pat had the knife without getting into the house, it wasn't one from his house if it was even there

[@XTotter5505]

Oh yeah he went and grabbed his secret knife int he bushes that he conveniently had there. Seriously, the police department should have talked about the holes in the story in the report

[@oz_jones]

A woman lied? Shocker

[@falsehope4421]

So pat drive home drunk, fell asleep on his lawn, woke up and pulled out a knife from nowhere as he was locked out of his house, slashed the tires of her car, and ran away? Ngl, that sounds kinda made up

[@Stelly_nails]

Fr how did the police not question if more

[@falsehope4421]

@@Stelly_nails i have no clue, i guess its because he admitted to it so its kinda just case closed after that, but i feel like he might have just given up on fighting it and took a plea deal or something instead

[@KujiraJrBake]

​@@falsehope4421 considering everything that happened to him he probably was just getting used to it or feel he didn't deserve to fight back

[@wafflesaucey]

Weird shit happens when you're drunk. My guess would be that he had some kind of blackout and forgot that he did indeed enter the house. He grabbed a knife and went outside with the intention of slashing the tires, but fell asleep. Then he slashed the tires and when she came outside, he got angry at her and shouted at her, because she was drinking and driving earlier. That would be my guess.

[@gooseti]

This sounds like a case from ace attorney. Just without the murder

[@rngesusthethird5082]

As someone who’s reliving the nostalgia and have kept up with the drama in recent months, this video is really well done. Honestly surprised to see anyone still discussing his absence. I’m glad you laid out all the facts instead of other crappy coverages like everyone did with Chris from Mr. Beast. Thanks for the great vid. Where did you see that post he made asking for support and when was it because he mentioned he’s considering returning on his community page 5 months ago

[@ShamPee]

I saw it in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmS5npp-q8dggM0

[@vloggingwithsam4811]

It was deleted

[@Emmi_Ok]

And this is why, I hate drama. I really miss pat and Jen, hearing what pat is going through...I want to meet him and give him a big hug... I I really wanna hug him soo badly.

[@JakeRFD123]

He did not abandon us he took a break he deserved after what happend to him

[@JakeRFD123]

I’m sorry but true fans will let him live his life he is trying to get better in life and he deserves that chance I have been watching basically since he started and I’m just saying let him rest in life…..😢

[@MoonlarkSpirits]

@@JakeRFD123 I can't lie and say I won't miss him... but I agree.

[@Xylospring]

Pat is actually trying to find the Milk, but that past 300 stores are all empty.

[@MrGamer-rr9oj]

​@@JakeRFD123 I agree, after raising 17 million kids he deserves to take his time and enjoy the rest of his life. I'm still waiting for him to come back, but him leaving his youtube career behind is also better for him❤️

[@imadking11]

Ever since Eleni existed in the videos, I knew exactly what was going to happen, but I never thought it'd get that bad after that

[@Stelly_nails]

Fr ever since he brought eleni to the chancel I always got a bad feeling from her and what makes it crazier is that most of us that didn’t like her where kids which is crazy bc kids like everyone

[@larfrineno.7249]

When I learned that news, I could obviously tell that it was a pretty bad decision to begin with since you're going through a divorce so why not, ya know... Spend and appreciate some alone time and do some self-reflection before you head back to the dating world? Even if you moved on, what about the audience that hasn't? Since the one you've broken up with was an integral part of the channel; the sudden shift of the channel's identity is inevitable. The audience as well as Pat, needed time to grieve but then instead, suddenly came in a new partner... It reminds me of that punch in the gut where your partner immediately finds another partner a couple of days after your break up with them xd

[@obsessedwithcats]

@@Stelly_nails To be fair, they probably just wanted Jen back, hence the hatred

[@bluefirefoxowo]

@@obsessedwithcats I never wanted Jen back their relationship was over without hard feelings

[@obsessedwithcats]

@@bluefirefoxowo Yeah, I thought so too, but others disagree. Honestly, I'd love to see Pat upload some videos by himself, or with other friends. He has a very likable personality, he'd still do very well. All the comments about missing Jen are annoying though, it's probably hard for him to move on since Jen, a major part of the channel, has been lost.

[@Bamni]

To me personally it seems like pat is just trying his best to find a replacement for Jen, she was perfect they were perfect such amazing chemistry and after they broke up you can see that jen was happy and pat was not he was just masking that he was alright with it, he was trying to find a replacement to feel the same way used to with jen she was his everything after that he descended into what he is now he is happy now as seen on his podcast but he has been under some bad influence and while Jen has moved on and now has a child Pat is still seeking out what him and jen used to have

[@adventurekitty101]

I feel like KZbin didn’t really help with Pats mindset after his breakup with Jen either, just because of the people begging and screaming for the old chemistry between him and Jen to return, and so he felt obligated to find that again because KZbin was his livelihood. I still feel sorry for him.

[@StarYTTT]

only Stampy stays out of controversy and is still with us

[@Swaxol]

what about Dan?

[@DeamonDragoon]

Except the L for Lee drama

[@StarYTTT]

@@DeamonDragoon true but he did handle it very well

[@StarYTTT]

@@Swaxol true true

[@goldenclasher8287]

Ik this is late. but ssundee also tries his best even if he targets a more younger audience now.

[@Sundrey438]

Its so sad to see one of my childhood heroes get wrapped up in a controversy that we don't know much about

[@isaac2986]

The thing is, i could tell immediately that Pat was a gentle giant. The only thing that was the problem was that he was buffed, the fact that he was buffed worked against him in the abuse cases. I also could tell when someone was bullshitting at an early age since i like to think before i speak (i was pretty introverted back then so it was literally i dont speak until i have something decent to say lol). I could also tell when someone was stressed out or tired just by Pat's voice and body language, as well as energy. All he literally wanted was to make people happy, especially his fans. He literally was borderline desperate to do so... He was always so genuine, as well as Jen. Seeing the other women in his videos, it didnt feel genuine at all and i can see some stink eye, or scowling from Eleni and Liz when they were in his videos. I honestly felt like Pat and Jen were like older siblings to me when growing up, i really miss them and wish that they have a happy life. From what i heard, Jen has had a happy life getting remarried and has kids, which im very happy about since she genuinely was happy. I'm just sad that Pat didnt get the happy ending that he deserved too, maybe he is now (i sincerely hope he does, id probably cry a river if he still hasnt). I'm honestly praying and hoping, borderline begging at this point, that he can finally catch a break whether its being single with lots of friends, or with a nice lady and kids..... Maybe even just moving to some other city and starting a new life to reset and move on from his past...

[@KauriYouTubeAdventure]

To be honest the reason why Pat and Jen broke up after having such amazing chemistry is because Pat didn't want to have kids, but Jen did and she just couldn't keep the relationship going if they weren't gonna have a kid in the longrun.

[@kaspas5511]

All this to basically say you have para social relationship😭 you don’t actually know how he was in person, bc I doubt you knew him in person. I’d like to also believe what you said but we actually won’t know 100%, we can only assume by what he says and then edits from his channel right.

[@ak47epic94]

@@KauriKZbinAdventure And that was a wise choice they made. Having a kid is a big responsibility down the line, and if Pat knew he couldn't bear that responsibility with Jen then all they'll have is a life of building up stress and disagreement, which would also negatively impact the kid's life A lot of cases where parents who don't love/agree with each other tried to stay together "for the kid", which gradually made them more stressful and hateful, finding unhealthy ways to vent, until they couldn't take it anymore and lash out, leading to a bitter divorce But Pat and Jen dropped out early on that, as a result they're still on friendly terms

[@ryei4k]

Watching his lucky block series back when I was a kid literally took me into memory lane. And ever since he broke up with Jen, I don't see him like ever before. Best wishes to Pat

[@EjCrafter]

sad to see him go, he defined my childhood

[@diamondplayz2145]

I miss Pat. His channel was my childhood.

[@blu3.Jay_]

I feel so bad for Pat. Sure, he made mistakes and he even owned up to them, (no one can be perfect or a saint) but a lot of it sounded as if it all started after him and Jen separated. Some of the fans weren’t happy about them separating and had to express their thoughts about him finding someone else who made him happy. I genuinely hope he is able to get the help he needs to recover. It’s sad hearing what he’s gone through after the separation.I hope he is able to get back on the right path and find his happiness.

[@Carl_Is_Tired]

I have no words. I remember watching PopularMMOs when I was little, I even named a Roblox account after them. Pat and Jen were like our parents, making us feel loved when our parents couldn't. When I found out that Pat and Jen broke up, it was fine, and I hoped that they would stay friends and continue to make videos together. But I had already grown distant prior to hearing about the break up, and even after hearing about it, I still didn't watch PopularMMOs. And now having to hear that a person you watched in your childhood ending up doing bad things, and getting arrested, going down a spiral of misery... I just hope that Pat will be okay, he doesn't need to come back. I just want him to find happiness.

[@jakethesnakeytd9938]

He is back well made a brief comeback and posted two vids on his account as well as make a podcast channel about his time away

[@Carl_Is_Tired]

@@jakethesnakeytd9938 yeah...but it's not the same as it used to be. I haven't watched him in years so it doesn't matter, I just meant that it's alright if he decides to take a break to get his life together. And if he didn't come back it's okay.

[@jakethesnakeytd9938]

@@Carl_Is_Tired yeah I hope he does I feel bad for him

[@gerawrd_way]

Thats a lot of words for no words

[@gamingevolvedkg30]

He was my childhood. It sucks to see horrible women came by and ruined his life. He is still a good man and I know he is but right now. Let him rest for now. He been through a lot. It makes me angry to see Elline channel growing when many people doesnt know whats she done

[@No-OneSpecial000]

Pat is back and he looks to be doing a lot better now 🙏

[@ChexzMix]

Update: he gone again, plus I’m pretty sure he got a podcast channel now.

[@No-OneSpecial000]

@@ChexzMix apparently he’s been gone again for a bit cause he lost a drive or smth with a bunch of vids

[@ChexzMix]

@@No-OneSpecial000 Ah that sucks, I just really miss the old Popularmmos but his old fanbase are adults now which kinda feels unreal.. Edit: Idk what I’m yapping about

[@zdot_lazy]

@@ChexzMix you’re good honestly I miss being a kid watching pat too especially when it was late nights and early mornings before school started so many memories.

[@SecureHandle]

@@zdot_lazyI miss him too. You could tell after the breakup a lot had changed, even about the videos themselves

[@axelbenedict3301]

i dont feel abandoned. he has his own life, and his last few years online were horrible. he needs a break man.

[@vividphantom7391]

great video, amazing editing, and honestly i’m glad you took the time out of your weeks to defend a kind soul like pat when he couldn’t himself, as fans it’s important to think logically and fight for him knowing he can’t himself. being a fan of his channel since 2013, it’s truly sad seeing him go down this road, hopefully these allegations aren’t true and he can just return to being happy.

[@SebastienGendron-uk4po]

I agree, it's so easy for someone to label Pat as just another abuser on KZbin without further context. I have to admit though, was it really a good idea to show off his new girlfriends on KZbin each time a breakup happened (I understand that people can move on, but Jen has been an iconic figure that it's impossible to remember Pat without her, I just think there are some things could have kept out of the spotlight). Revealing a new girlfriend(s) to an audience that has grown accustomed to a previous one for years is a little jarring.

[@slothboss9482]

This is why I struggle to have relationships. They make you argue with your companion and then you will be depressed after you break up with them because they ruin your life.

[@Yunglex313]

This is why you scrutinize who you give your time to. As a human being, not everyone gels together, and people will always have disagreements, but being a responsible healthy person means knowing when things get too bad and getting out of a bad situation as soon as you notice it. You do this and learn that relationships with anyone, whether that be friends or partners, do require compromise, and you'll be fine.

[@LiteByt]

And then there's the threat of your partner lying and getting sent to jail.

[@slothboss9482]

@@LiteByt Ikr??

[@wafflesaucey]

just say you're scared of women

[@rip_xander2922]

This genuinely broke my heart and hurt my soul Two of my childhood joys are in legal trouble, and its genuinely emotionally painful. First Dennisdaily was evading taxes, and now its PopularMMOS. I seriously hope they can get emotional and physical help, because these two were in fact, my favourite of the bunch. I don't know what made them so scarred, but they need help, and fast. I cried halfway through the video because Pat was the one who made me laugh and cry tears of joy.

[@Not_Sam17]

I think Pat, as of now, is hosting on a podcast with two other people (maybe three). I'm just glad nothing more is adding to this (even though it was 9 months ago)

[@thedoronilafamily2434]

As they say, "empires rise and fall" Pat's empire was huge, it was one of the biggest gaming channels at the time, but many things behind the scenes of the videos cost the channel slowly fall apart. Luckily Pat announce that he wants to start making videos again, we can only hope when will that come.

[@SecureHandle]

When he gets his life sorted which probably means at least another year judging by how long ago he made the statement and how little progress he’s made towards it

[@askunnakuku4007]

@@SecureHandleFirst step is to ignore finding a new relationship, hope he learned that much already.

[@MrGamer-rr9oj]

​@@askunnakuku4007 I feel like he's doing that for his fans, i'm guessing he feels bad for his fans because he can't create and show the content he/they made before and that is why he keeps looking for a replacement.

[@antonitocotter447]

​@@MrGamer-rr9ojThen that was his first mistake. There's no way to replace such a bond, only to preserve it as part of your history with them. Instead of looking for a replacement, he should've looked to how he could keep his channel going strong. He sought a new relationship too fast after that break-up. Not forgetting he ended up choosing the wrong people to date.

[@DarlingKuromi]

Sad to see channels abandoned. Popularmmos and SisVsBro were my absolute favorite channels when I was younger. Now people like me are left to wonder if they are well in life..

[@celina617]

With sis vs bro, they literally just grew up, dont think there’s any bad blood there, can’t imagine still doing the things I used to do with my brother now that we used to do when we were younger, bcos we both grew up, same with stampys world ending, all the viewers just watch to get a hit of nostalgia, bcos we grew up

[@SecureHandle]

⁠@@celina617Yeah I remember watching Ronaldomg play bedwars many years ago on hypixel and that started my hypixel journey. At the current moment I received a 3 month ban for a boosting offense that I didn’t do and my appeal got denied lol. Ronaldomg and popularmmos were my childhood

[@Lexendor]

hearing how his life is going breaks my heart. he used to be so happy making videos with jen. i’m not sure if their relationship was always good but they really seemed so happy. i understand their break up but these new girls are accusing him and taking advantage of him. he is doing everything he can to stay in a healthy relationship but they beat him and cheat on him. they accuse him and blame him for their own disloyalty. he doesn’t deserve any of this. all of his problems are because of those girls. he just wanted to find someone like jen. you can tell he never wanted to break up with her. he loved her so much and the videos they made together prove it. again, i understand their break up but pat isn’t okay.

[@WrathVirus]

Fun fact: that "last video' he posted on Nov 10, 2021, wasn't his last video. he posted a video about him and a friend daring another friend to jump into a baseball field during a game which he had done plenty times before. It was privated because it could be seen evidence or something when Pat, that friend and the other friend were arrested for jumping into a football game and getting caught. The video is back up on his channel now.

[@modernmiderntown3241]

It looks to me that the best thing to do is for him to stay single and stop caring about what Liz is doing. When I care too much about someone then it makes things get really bad at times and then the best thing for me to do is stay away from the person I cared about and after a while I feel a lot better.

[@pressuredorbitz3832]

its so sad because these you can love someone so much that the pain and misery that you go through doesnt even get acknowledged in your brain but subconsciously it destroys you

[@DarkEntityTheory]

great video, underrated as hell, and i grew up with this guy and vanoss, and markiplier, so its sad to see his downfall

[@stuffylockmiller3918]

stampylongnose,lforleee to

[@lostpapyrus]

not trying to hate my i get the feeling elline is the kind of girl that thinks a guy having friends that are girls means their cheating, even if its just a platonic friendship.

[@crayzieartastic6440]

i think it’s also the fact that he’s on good terms with jen, and continued to include her in videos after the divorce. and it’s actually very common for people to think that is weird for exes to stay in touch after a breakup. i personally don’t think it is, especially if you spend a good part of your life with someone like that and breakup mutually. but a lot of people are really just too insecure to look past the fact that there was a reason for the breakup and consider not going completely no contact with an ex “not moving on” or having “feelings”. it’s not necessarily a bad thing, but i think that if someone is uncomfortable with their partner being friends with an ex, then they shouldn’t pursue a relationship with them, and it’s unreasonable for them to expect their partner to drop them as a friend entirely just for their sake. for me personally, i don’t have a single ex i’m not on good terms with, or no contact with. there will always be a form of love there, but it’s mostly a love for the good moments or “highs” in the relationship, and that doesn’t mean that you want to be with them or you not being over them. i think that’s what makes exes such good friends, because of the intimacy and vulnerability of a relationship. you both know the best and worst parts of each other, and you can definitely make a future friendship work, which is what i think pat and jen did. and if elani was uncomfortable with that, she shouldn’t have gotten into a relationship with pat. and i think what happened was she used the fact that he’s on good terms with jen as a weapon.

[@SecureHandle]

@@crayzieartastic6440Yeah he broke up with Jen because they wanted different ways to proceed in life. Jen wanted kids and pat just didn’t

[@redblackjacket3786]

His life was so bright with Jen but it went downhill ever since they broke up. Jen doing better which is nice but seeing Pat like this is just sad. Hope he find some help soon.

[@brotherkhrayn3525]

Holy shit… I haven’t seen Pat’s videos in years, but oh my god… I feel terrible for him… I hate that he went through that. I hope he’s doing ok now…

[@DarkGamerdarkgamer0926]

I never knew what was happening, I heard about his first ex after Jen being a manipulator and a liar and him clearing the air which I thought was the end of it, boy was I wrong. It breaks my heart that my favorite Minecraft creator from my childhood has fallen victim to two girls who couldn't just love him for who he is and absolutely wrecked his life. I hope beyond anything that Pat gets help and these girls get what's coming to them, thank you for clarifying Pat's situation.

[@chizobaokolo3934]

Honestly i feel like Jen was the healthiest woman in Pat's life😢

[@TheGl1tch]

wish we could turn back time to the good old dayyyys when mama sang us to sleep but now WE'RE stressed out.😢😢😢

[@xhu9675]

I think you should’ve mentioned when Jen said the years her and pat were together he never laid a hand on her.

[@doctorspindash2.086]

I used to watch these guys every day when I was eating dinner. But one day I forgot about them now. I hear all this stuff about them. Man getting old sucks😢

[@Devilhand21]

Pat was a KZbinr I watched when my family and I were basically forced to stay in a bedroom 24/7, only ever coming out to get whatever leftover food that was left by my (not blood related) aunt and uncle's family, to go to the library or to go to school. Whenever given the chance, I would watch Pat, Sky and many others that brought me small bits of happiness in a hellish and nearly suffocating environment I spent years in, watching at the local library until I had to leave, at high school during breakfast or lunch, or secretly on a phone connected to their internet. It feels really bad after seeing so much of my childhood and teen years of watching favorite KZbinrs get ruined in one way or another, especially when it comes to Pat because of the hell he went through, a hell he didn't deserve to go through.

[@alexrawls5217]

All the videos I watched on this topic _never_ not _once_ shared pat’s side of the story thank you for doing that when channels twice your size didn’t bother.

[@joshy8007]

Jen kept Pat sane because she was healthy and kind person to be around. I Wished he had stayed friends with Jen and made videos together just as friends though i feel like that would've brought down a better path

[@sombraafiada]

7:29 the fact that this is an incident, involving "love making" with those... details 7:35 (something i used to hate as a child) which then lead to one of my favourite youtubers from back then on his career's end is something so traumatizing...

[@xXWolfKittenXx]

this makes me wanna cry so much. I dont really know him nor have heavily feelings towards him as a fan but how much he is suffering and going through all of this, a lot of people or some people, are posting videos of him and Jen and it's kind of sad. I remember watching him when I was younger, but I really didn't really know much about stuff like that since I was young, but he was funny to me and Jen.. I hope he's OK now and I am now following him

[@dr.tickler9641]

This stuff is so depressing, I mean I remember the days I’d watch his videos and be like that’s the mod I want know damn well I couldn’t get it on my iPad so I bought a laptop downloaded Minecraft and got really damn confused when I didn’t see the Godzilla spawn egg

[@Westonbbg]

real haha or buy a scam mod for pocket edition using your dads credit card and he gets mad

[@turtlezest]

“It could’ve changed my life”

[@isaiahquiatchon]

Jen was the one but the only reason why they broke up was one thing that they didn't have in common, And it was kind of important, Eleni was a gold digger and Liz has PTSD which caused pat to get arrested 3 times, If he was still with jen non of these would've happened, I'm not saying that pat and jen shouldn't be happy and not make their own decision, But I'm just if pat stayed with jen and jen stayed with pat everything would've been the same.

[@SebastienGendron-uk4po]

Seriously, you can't force 2 people to stay together. Pat and Jen's break up (as sad as it was) is kind of justified. She wanted a kid and Pat didn't want one (taking care of a child is a huge responsibility and it takes sacrifice). Unlike Pat's other girlfriends, at least Pat and Jens's break up was a conscious decision between two adults that acknowledged they want different things, and it didn't end in abuse.

[@isaiahquiatchon]

@@SebastienGendron-uk4po Um I'm not saying I'm forcing anyone to stay together bro.

[@SebastienGendron-uk4po]

@@isaiahquiatchon apologies, I may have read your comment out of context

[@the_chosen_one1235]

You're slow, kid. Liz having PTSD caused Pat to get arrested 2-3 times.@HaileysCometYT

[@Stelly_nails]

@HaileysCometYTit depends how bad it is and don’t forget that she’s also been to a mental hospital

[@ashhabimran239]

Something which I don't feel gets criticised enough in this situation is that fans. The completely childish, unwelcoming, and unsupportive way they acted when Pat and Jen broke up and he tried to do different thing, it was all just "wE mIsS jEn" or "bRinG jEn baCk", even though she's living with her new family now

[@rendismowerto2481]

His fanbase is mostly elemetary and middle school kids

[@Kyle_Gaming09]

Im really sad after seeing this video, i mean popularmmos was one of my pillars of nostalgia along with alot of stuff, my favourite videos were the jens house tsuname stuff or the giant spongebob vids, i just wish that i could travel back in time and experience watching them again and maybe make them still be the fun and family friendly channel they used to be.

[@avery_is_here9054]

It's so unfortunate that pat got handed a bad card deck after they broke up. I'm more on the side of believing pat (maybe that's just child me wanting to believe he's not bad but idk) He got into two bad relationships, got abused, said somethings, did some things that he's aware are not okay but can't take back, drinking, got sent to a hospital. It's clear he's suffering from depression or a form of depression. It's been about 5 months since he posted, i can only hope pat will make the decision in getting therapy for the things he's experienced.

[@the_dualwielddivine1004]

It’s sad this KZbinr was my childhood from 2014-2018 I hope he gets better

[@Agrandmonkey]

This is all so wild, who would have guessed

[@Tra3hG0blinz]

he did make a community post that he was thinking about coming back.

[@blackberyy3450]

That was before he made the post about Liz

[@Tra3hG0blinz]

@@blackberyy3450 really? Was it on another social or did it get deleted?

[@blackberyy3450]

@@Tra3hG0blinz it got deleted because pat was getting his family and his girlfriend in trouble

[@Tra3hG0blinz]

@@blackberyy3450 oop. Alright good to know

[@starrythestar]

The guy deserved better, he just wanted to play for fun. People just berated him and seemed to only care about his girlfriend. He made videos that included his girlfriend from time to time and then people saw his Jen as comedic so they made more videos together. Pat did most of the hard work to edit the videos and was still respectful to his fans. The reason I stopped watching was not because of Jen but because he was literally not making videos for fun anymore. His fans were just being toxic. I see him as a nice fellow who just wanted to make good videos and not for his girlfriend. He is loyal to the few he bonds with.

[@starrythestar]

This ties in to how I see Minecraft now. I used to love Hypixel because it was just another game server that was not owned by some AAA company. Now it is owned by the Chinese company Tencent and it’s not fun anymore. Players kept asking for too much and when they did not get what they wanted, they just blamed Microsoft when all they did was try to enable Minecraft for more platforms. I can’t even just enjoy Minecraft at all. Netherite Armor may be powerful but takes away from the fun. It’s gone to shit with the fandom. I hate fandoms.

[@Endy_3639]

When I was little I used to watch him for days then for a few years I forgot about him then I searched him up and there’s so much drama and is so sad 😭

[@Noodly9879]

God i feel so bad for him.. I used to love him as a KZbinr Having all these problems he has faced, god he must be in a bad place May he find peace 😔😔😔🫡🫡🫡

[@Dinosnake76]

I still love him and I hope he returns to content creation with a better mindset and after getting the right help. I understand the pain he's going through. He just wants to be happy, but he can't find that. Every kid that was on his youtube channel was talking about Jen not being there and his views dropping, i can see how unmotivated that can be. And now, Jen probably wants nothing to do with him.

[@newbie3914]

I feel like it doesn't matter how you explain a situation like this once a girl labels as a bad person the whole world turns against you

[@lugismansion2400]

yea, just look at what happened to Johnny Depp, he was accused of doing horrible things to Amber, yet he was able to win because A. he's CAPTAN Jack Sparrow. B. he showed enough evidence to prove her lies and C. his EXES stood up for him! why would the ex stand up for their supposed abuser if they had the time to actually call him out? and there's many other happenings where the innocent dude goes to prison for LIFE because of fake allegations that he won't have the money to fight it, not to mention their names being slandered everywhere and making him a social outcast before he is able to explain his side of the story!

[@NatanAyele]

Dan.. the last one left 😢

[@tiannamichelle7750]

Loved the vid!! Very well done, Im suprised you dont more followers hoping more people get to see your content ^^

[@Cassiesibbitt]

Pat and Jen were my whole childhood. My heart breaks for Pat, Jen is doing so well with her new husband and a beautiful baby. I hope Pat is okay.

[@TreatMySoul]

If Pat just agreed to have kids with Jen, imagine how normal and happy his life could've been. That one decision ruined him and it sucks to see him go this path.

[@antonitocotter447]

I don't think it was the fact that he didn't want kids, and more that he didn't think he was ready to have one.

[@ak47epic94]

Eh, that's a bad idea. If he agreed to raising a child he doesn't want to, he'd end up a lot worse than now

[@CatholicCarlismEnjoyer]

​@@ak47epic94Marriage is naturally open to sex, and such having children. If he has no desire to have children, then he should have remained single.

[@feenixdeez1526]

You know its a damn shame they were some of the biggest influences on my childhood and I miss the old days I miss getting up and watching the new video I miss it dammit but when I watch old videos its like i'm home. I am sorry about all of this pat I wish I was there for you more I always enjoy watching your videos thank you so much for making this one I haven't been paying attention to what's been going on and this sums it all up perfectly. You all have a wonderful day to whoever may be reading this if you're one of the OG's who watched them back in the day you know who you are.

[@rizuchingt2427]

I always Miss the old Pat & Jen vibes.. but its Good while it lasted right? And besides, AFTER all the drama going on I think Pat should really take a break for himself and try to move on slowly

[@AnimalsVehiclesAndMore]

Many years ago, when I was younger, PopularMMOs/Pat was my idol. I wanted to be just like him. Heck, I even started playing around with mods in Minecraft because of him. But, now, he's a shadow of his former self.

[@АлександърЖарков]

Just wanted to point this one Pat is back and has a new channel it seems he is doing fine

[@BigScoutFlag]

What's his new *channel name?*

[@АлександърЖарков]

@@BigScoutFlag Popularmmos Podcast sorry for the late response

[@Lvl1partyhat]

I usually think of downfalls as an effect I like to call “The rotting tree” think of PopularMMOs as a tree, now anything happen to this tree, PopularMMOs was doing good at the start (tree sapling growing) it was doing so good until it goes down hill (tree decaying from a cause) everything almost falls apart (the tree falls) and it continues until PopularMMOs stops posting (the tree decays until there is nothing left)

[@concavacatbc]

Im so glad my gut feeling about this situation being not quite right was correct, and that he is in fact not a bad person, there was just so much going on

[@xXxwdswgscoprxXx]

I feel so bad for Pat. I absolutely hate seeing someone who I would deem a second father. Being so beaten down As much as I hope he returns. He should focus on what is the best for him. Though I will always support him

[@kindplanet1]

Popularmmos was the best with his epic proportions series, I watch every single Season and they were the best. Especially Season 8 with Captain Cookie

[@kiengermann9835]

It sucks to see a lot of my old favorite youtubers are dying out or quitting youtube. This is genuinely so heartbreaking..

[@AtomicF640]

Hit me like a f****** truck when I learned that he wasn't married to Jen anymore I want to see that they still had a nice healthy relationship afterwards though (I mean still being friends with each other) not to mention she came to his defense multiple times and that shows that she still does care for him in some form of way

[@dennixL]

This video deserves more recognition.

[@liverpoolchanunnunthasumre2785]

Liz entire story straight up just sounds made up 1) punch on right arm (no injuries found) 2) got chased by pat but pat caught up to her cutting her heel then somehow outran pat with an injured foot (Outran a pat while injured who outran her while she was in her best condition) 3)Pat was outside the house how could he have gotten a knife( unless there’s a knife in his garage which maybe open their no other way he could have gotten a knife)

[@Stelly_nails]

Fr how did the police not question if more

[@lovelydovely_]

Seeing Pat and Jen breakup was like watching my parents get divorced all over again

[@Winter0mega]

Everything was perfect until 2 girls popped up in his life

[@sabinacabanero4862]

Not gonna lie, I remember the video he and Jen had when they reacted to celebrity baby names and when they reached Steven Spielberg's baby Destry, he said I was gonna name our kid Destroy if we ever had one. Well that aged pretty sadly

[@LeviFunk-FunkyTime]

ok, i try so hard to take this seriously and then i see the name "ShamPee" and die laughing

[@hmhmu671]

Officers believed the no bruise right arm and how exactly does he get a hold of a knife outside the house, locked up, and just awoken?

[@Kagenou_CidV2]

I miss ya, Pat😢...he was the first MC youtuber iwatched when i first heard about Minecraft. I miss the old Pat&Jen duo so much... it's not the same anymore.😢

[@FreshO2]

Yeah... feel sorry for Pat. I'd still wish that Pat and Jen were still a thing. 😔

[@Fixer48]

Pat just needed some help,therapy and a friend

[@thedork5277]

If I remember correctly, the reason why they broke up (or have a divorce because they were married) was because Pat wanted kids and Jen didn't? Correct me if I'm wrong. Edit: It was the opposite. I was in fact wrong.

[@sabinacabanero4862]

It's the opposite, Pat didn't want kids but Jen did.

[@thedork5277]

@@sabinacabanero4862 mb I shoulda done more research

[@bestlobjagamer348]

it must be said that Jen his old girlfriend kept defending him

[@jadeross497]

jen has known pat since jen was 16, i think its safe to say she could have been trusted with defending pats name aswell

[@Waterbottle-c8f]

Pat and Jen were one of the very first KZbinrs I’ve ever watched and seeing everything happen to both of them is really sad. I’m sure we all want to go back in time when Pat and Jen we’re still together and making really good videos that made us all laugh

[@ironwolfthegamer7800]

I highly doubt Pat would get super violent in a drunken rage

[@twist_ending7545]

So you know everything about him?

[@patrickbicking4933]

@twist_ending7545 Don't put words in other people's mouths. Watch the video.

[@twist_ending7545]

@@patrickbicking4933 what

[@KujiraJrBake]

​@@twist_ending7545 they said to watch the video, don't be like those girls by putting words in people's mouth when it's not what they said at all. You come out as just wanting to stir the pot as well

[@twist_ending7545]

@@KujiraJrBake Two Weeks.

[@drakegotcakelol]

popurlarmmos might not ever upload again , but he will forever be a part of my childhood. Survival games was top teir back when I was a kid

[@OzzieBo]

PopularMMOs is a bit like Top Gear. The chemistry and the moments shared between the presenters. After they left, Top Gear crashed; the introduction of new hosts only worsened the problem.

[@RileyGoss99]

I saw one of this guys video yesterday, that video was from 6 years ago. I remember watching the videos all the time.

[@Marcsworld2012]

Yeah I left after Jen quit

[@Propulsion4]

The fact that everyone in my 8th grade class would never call them poppularmmos, but pat and Jen. Then once they broke up we stopped caring, and then he just went more down the rabbit hole of controversy

[@ginnyevilshadow1458]

It's a bit sureal seeing my reddit comment in a video essay-type video lmao In case anybody cares I wanted to shed some light on it(cuz ya know, it was years ago). I wanted to like Eleni and be supportive of Pat's decisions but I just had a bad feeling about her in particular that I couldn't shake. Considering what eventually happened with her and Pat, I think my insincts were corrrect. It's really sad what Pat has had to deal with these last few years. I watched him since I was super young and I was(and still am) very loyal to his channel. Even his videos after the breakup and before the drama(especially the tycoon-esc videos in particular) felt forced and like he was making them because he felt like he had to. If he does want to come back, it would be great. While it wouldn't be the same without Jen, I do believe he could make some really good content on his own. I just hope he gets the help he needs and can get out of his spiral because I care about him and it hurts to see him go through stuff like this.

[@3valyn.__.__]

I actually found one of his book in one our bookstore the other day. I was looking for another book that I wanted to read so bad. I was excited and sad at the same time. Its just doesn't feel the same anymore. I'm still watching his old videos that I download on yt so I can watch it offline. I really miss the old day😔 Edit:I didn't remember what's the name of the book,I didn't pay attention that much since I have college that day and I go there before my class started. The bookstore and my college were not that far away either so I can just walk there.

[@mansongamingz7559]

I was very disappointed because Pat and Jen were part of my childhood same as for my little sis. Why does Pat keep getting girlfriends just to add drama to his life? I really wish Pat could be what he used to be the same person years ago. After breaking up with Jen, It really made a big impact on his KZbin channel and his Life. Why not just stay single after breaking up with Jen? Pat did post a vid on his channel of him getting arrested. Another thing I don't understand is, just accept that Jen wanted kids. If Pat and Jen had kids, they would have helped both of them grow the channels they have even faster.

[@TheChristianWood]

can you shup up, real fand would want pat and jen to be happy, and to respect thei5r decision.

[@mansongamingz7559]

@@TheChristianWood Wow, calm down. That's just my opinion on the situation. I respect them for their decision.

[@jakekiper9294]

​@@mansongamingz7559You talk about having kids like it's a business decision, and how it would cause the channel to grow faster, and while that part is true, the channel would've grown faster, they're still people, and when people are young they form this dream, and in that dream the either want kids or they don't, and sometimes they end up with someone they fall in love with, but then that dream is conflicting, and that's what happened. Now you could say "oh but why didn't Pat/Jen just change their mind" except that dream can't be changed, I learned that on July 22,2023, when an amazing girl told me how she actually wanted children the whole time when I didn't, it sucked. So to whoever you are, random internet person, remember that dream can't change and no matter your opinion, always find out opinion on kids before you start dating someone

[@mansongamingz7559]

@@jakekiper9294 this is the longest comment I ever read. Sorry for my opinion, I used to be a huge fan of Pat.

[@jakekiper9294]

@@mansongamingz7559 I think everyone watching this video using to be a fan of pat, and I used to be under the opinion someone'e opinion on children could change, anyways, good on you for being so nice to me and the other person who had something to say, honestly maybe I was too aggressive? Idk, I just feel bad for pat because I went through a similar thing (minus the marriage part, and everything after the breakup), also I reread another part of your comment and to answer "why did pat not just stay single after breaking up with Jen?" Well for one thing the popularmmos channel has almost always had more than just Pat, including now with the podcast, but that was likely an after thought on Pat's part, to answer it more concisely it would probably require me to explain a lot but to put it simply, just like you, me and everyone else after Pat was broke up with he probably felt like a piece of his life was gone, like there was an empty space, so he decided to fill that space, he just didn't fill it with the right people, but if you look at his community tab and the podcast channel you can see that he has a girlfriend, according to the community post she's loving and supportive, so just like a puzzle missing a few pieces, he eventually found the right ones, and put them into place