How a "Bad" Pokemon Was Once Overpowered in 2014

[@lory3771]

Being reminded that Fletchinder and Moltres were in the same tier was like a punch in the face.

[@llkieowek4652]

What gale wings does to a mf

[@butteredsalmonella]

I miss Gale Wings...

[@prestoncole1862]

Make Gale wings great again

[@BrendonCap]

Damn yall clowning Moltres fr in these comments.

[@vanesslifeygo]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LawOfOne_Elris]

Unbuckle the Shuckle

[@andymurray5045]

Hell nah shuckle the cuckle

[@gonfftheprince]

Shuck about and find out

[@khub5660]

Don't fuckle with shuckle

[@DerGeringverdiener]

unload the toad

[@pazzoeo]

Shuckle unshackled

[@bohanxu6125]

Video idea: "When lower stats are better" examples: slow u-turn, lower attack against foul play and confusion, lower speed for trick room, lower stats for hidden power, etc.

[@Dragostorm21]

Lower stats for hidden Power isn't near as cool as the others (imo it isn't nearly as much of a choice since if you want hp ice you don't really choose much afterwards. Unless you mean weird hp distributions, in which case sure)

[@NasJuiced]

add investing 248 evs instead of 252 into hp on hazard weak mons to get an extra switch in

[@Ze_Carrot]

69

[@FoxxPlushie]

But pokeaim already made that video idea.

[@Bustin_cider00]

@@FoxxPlushiejust because someone already did it doesn’t mean someone else can’t

[@SuperEljafru]

i love the graphic at 4:10 showing the pros and cons of sticky web setters and leavanny’s just sitting there at the bottom with its only pro being it has webs

[@megamanzero29]

Always remember: Don’t Fuckle with Shuckle

[@sceptile2794]

That's why the saying goes "Don't fuckle with the shuckle"

[@frankyquilavafireblast895]

The very definition of seize your moment, because you never know when it will happen, but when it does, you take it

[@KekleAlex]

As I was watching the start of the video I thought “man that looks like my-“ then I saw my name lmao. Great video as always!!

[@davidwindsor2579]

Freezai’s gonna have to make another one of these once Shuckle gets Body Press

[@ashmyoshi3912]

Its not gonna tho

[@mme.veronica735]

just wait

[@enoyna1001]

Straight to AG

[@davidwindsor2579]

252+ Def Choice Band Tera Fighting Shuckle Body Press vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garganacl: 404-476 (100 - 117.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[@rythvicr3240]

Would it even manage to use it off effectively though? Sure it's an absurdely powerful move, but it's walled by ghost types and is on one of the slowest mons in the game. How much value would it be able to get from it?

[@nerdicusdorkum2923]

I'm slightly sad it wasn't power trick shuckle. Though, it isn't good. But it's certainly funny to see a shuckle turn into rampardos

[@PrinceSilvermane]

Power trick trick room shuckle will have its day, I swear.

[@LukeFaulkner]

Can someone explain to me how the base 20 health yet base 230 sp/defence thing works? Is it that it takes a lot to knock off a HP but it doesn't have many? In which case, would this be the same as having base 40 health and base 115 sp/defence (ignoring EV/IVs).

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

With base stats it's a bit iffy because they don't 100% depend on base stats, but yes if a mon had 200 hp, 500 def and 500 spdef, it would be exactly the same as 400 hp, 250 def and 250 spdef. 244 hp and 614 def, which is the maximum shuckle can have, is equal to 488hp and 307 def, which you'd get with 142 base hp and 90 base def. So Shuckle having 20 hp and 230 (sp)def would be equal to having 142 hp and 90 (sp)def. Its bulk is ultimately similar to Vaporeon if its spdef was as high as its defense, or generally Umbreon.

[@l4zybo1]

307 def is 91 base defense. 306 and below is 90

[@sythrus]

Shuckle is also good for bug monotype teams, as most of the good bug types are perfect with stealth-web support

[@ttttttttttttttttt.]

Theres also gen 7 mix and mega where it was a similar case....with ampharosite. basically most teams then relied on either sablenite, zapdos, landorus-t (which later also got banned from holding mega stones), or mandibuzz to hazard block, since most hazard setters couldnt get through magic bounce, but shuckle could while punishing others with toxic. ampharosite also giving shuckle a good matchup into standard primal groudon also meant that it could punish anything from it with relative safety while scouting its sets, and webs teams could afford to trade hazards with it. it was only further helped by the reliance on zygarde in the tier as the premier altarianite (pixilate) extreme speed user that made it over the top, as you couldnt win by simply being faster and dragonite was restricted while arcanine and entei couldnt ohko before being ohkoed by +1 stab thousand arrows or just +1 thousand arrows into extreme speed. pdon was also just kinda crazy with it too and that was the best mon in the tier that also checked a shit ton of mons so you couldnt exactly remove it either. zyg is/was still debatably broken in that tier, but the ladder is now gone and the banlist was locked at the end of gen 7.

[@agentblackbird9435]

Deadass never knew other Pokémon used Mega stones as a strat

[@solitare4602]

@@agentblackbird9435 They said "mix and mega". It sounds like anyone holding a mega stone can evolve into that mega. So if Shuckle holds an Ampharosite, it can mega evolve into Mega Ampharos. It sounds like a really interesting format.

[@lucayaki]

​@@solitare4602Mix and Mega is a permanent Other Metagame, you can still play it if you want. Basically, each stone gives the mon what base stats the mega gained and the ability + any type changes (for example, a pokémon holding a Glalitite would get +40 attack, +40 special attack and +20 speed and the ability Refrigerate)

[@nellewoodruff6337]

​@@solitare4602 That is bonkers and i love it

[@gallalameblook9911]

@@solitare4602 You don't properly evolve into the mega you used, but you do get all the type, stat and ability changes that the normal pokemon get when mega-evolving

[@timtabutops]

My takeaway is that Shuckle was reliable at getting it up. Thanks Freezai.

[@lucaslennan3356]

I have uncovered a patern in which sticky webs are good in meta games with an already powerful Ghost/Steel pokemon and an offensive Defiant staple.

[@chardawg5911]

True but Kingambit almost always runs Supreme Overlord in singles

[@lucaslennan3356]

@@chardawg5911 okay you got me, I admit I don't play singles

[@magicalgirllaurie]

I used Shuckle in a Shield playthrough, and after many attempts, I swept Kabu with it. One of my favourite moments in a Pokémon playthrough, that was fun.

[@jackslaven-hahn2959]

Bro you can beat Kabu with an unlit candle

[@Raymanlegacy]

@@jackslaven-hahn2959 litwick?

[@nellewoodruff6337]

​@@Raymanlegacy unlitwick

[@jackslaven-hahn2959]

@@nellewoodruff6337 he become lit when he absorbs fire moves

[@toaster7426]

The editing is fire my guy. Such ane asy vid to watch, keep it up g

[@Slenderquil]

Shuckle is my favorite Pokemon, it's already great to see getting love. It would be a menace if it got an evolution that evened out its hp with its defenses

[@jonathanwilliams225]

Power split is an underrated move It basically halves either attacking stat, isn’t reset by haze, bypasses magic bounce and clear body, and is generally a great tool for shutting down a powerful attacker Guard split is really useful in doubles for bolstering a teammate’s defense, just be wary of follow me I used a dual split shuckle with encore and protect in gen 8 doubles and it was really fun Giving shuck speed with speed swap ribombee allowing it to disrupt opposing mons was the core idea of my gen 8 monotype doubles team and it worked decently well

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

The main issue of Power Split is that when opponents switch out, which they usually do, their stats reset but due to Shuckle now having far too high stats, it can't reliably use the move again. It's essentially Charm/Eerie Impulse if it was a one time only move, and overall it's worse than Noble Roar, which can at least be stacked. Guard Split was once a (not even that good) gimmick with Chansey, but aside from that it's not too great. Basically you give up a turn for a +1 to your partner's defenses on average, and for that you turn Shuckle into glass.

[@jonathanwilliams225]

@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 It’s used to kill their momentum, plus if it’s their last pokemon they’re done

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

@@jonathanwilliams225 that holds true for Noble Roar as well, just even more because it can be stacked. And Noble Roar already is a pretty bad move.

[@jonathanwilliams225]

@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 like i said, main difference is that it bypasses abilities like clear body and magic bounce. Good for catching Hatterene off guard

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

@@jonathanwilliams225 that is an extreme niche case. Again, Noble Roar and its variations already are bad moves. Power Split is an inferior version to that since it can't be stacked and can't be used properly when an opponent switches out until you switch out again. Its literal only use is when your opponent has a last mon Hatterene, and even in those cases something like Perish Song would be far superior. So it's worse than an already bad move in pretty much any case besides one insanely rare care, in which it's still worse than other moves. That is not an underrated move, that is an awful one.

[@Raymanlegacy]

I love shuckle all my homies love shuckle

[@hamishstewart5324]

Gets even crazier when it evolves into Shuckthehellup. Organ Harvest is such a broken move.

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

And then the *other* time Shuckle was overpowered was in VGC, when it had the perfect storm of not just team support but rulesets, it could use Power Trick to give its defenses to an Eviolite Chansey and then stall the opponent out of time.

[@nicolaistuhlmuller8718]

You mean Guard Split? That was never game defining though and always a gimmick strategy.

[@Endershock1678]

It wasn’t overpowered at all, but it was very… VERY irritating to deal with, because it wasn’t just a guard split Chansey, it was a Guard Split Minimize Chansey. You dealt like 2% a hit and all of your moves have the accuracy of Fissure.

[@NoobsailerRBH]

The move Heavy-Duty Boots. Ah yes.

[@CanadianPianoMan]

Boomburst Secondary Effect: IT HITS HARD This got me good

[@JohnDoe-gp3vu]

I got to #400 in the world on ubers using shuckle as my lead, i would use mental herb or custap berry, custap allowed shuckle to outspeed if hit down to its sturdy thus setting both sticky web and stealth rock, id always try to bait out their zacian and then throw choice scarf ditto(he gets zacians intrepid sword twice, essentially turning into scarfed swords dance zacian, funny enough the best counter for this strategy was oblivious quagsire who i started to see more and more as i went up in tiers

[@Jadex56]

Really appreciate how you explain the meta

[@yourdagan]

Shuckle also had a very prominent place in gen 8 bdsp ru. And yes, it was paired with Exploud, which dominated the tier post its initial bans.

[@ClearCubess]

Your music choices for these videos are always peak

[@danielhale1]

The Dorkly Bits Shuckle will always be the canon Shuckle in my mind. I hear that voice whenever he pops up in one of these more serious Pokemon videos. It's permanent.

[@yoshimeier3060]

Can you imagine playing a Draft League. Your are a gifted player, love the weird and crazy and creative sets of Gen 3. Also you make well edited videos. I think Id love to watch you do Draft :)

[@RealShades7]

"If you control the speed, you control the game" Perish Song be like:

[@palestjade]

Speed still matters there but ok

[@rifk_]

fun fact this wasnt the only time shuckle had tiering action against it! in gen 7 mix and mega in like 2017 shuckle got restricted from mega evolving due to its ability to get webs up guarenteed regardless of what you do because of mold breaker after mega and sturdy pre mega

[@TheRenaSystem]

Buckle up, knuckle down, and don't fuckle with Shuckle or you'll have to struggle

[@starflight]

Don't fuckle with Shuckle. The eternal phrase holds true.

[@grub..]

Shuckle is a fan favourite pokemon

[@v_effekt8984]

I was not prepared for the awesomeness of Freezai putting an effort on the music

[@MacAnters]

That background by Coromon at 1:48 is beautiful!

[@bobjob2514]

My favorite moment in all of showdown: my zeroark got the final KO in a very close game… disguised as dynamax shuckle! “Shuckle used max DANKness!!!”

[@CoffeeHype7356]

4:31 It really is a godlike Usmash Trust me I know

[@Breloom286]

hey, the production value has been on the rise lately. congrats

[@Mr-eo6hu]

Today I learned Freezai is a Sonic enjoyer

[@aidandenley4391]

I LOVE SHUCKLE YEEEEAAAAH LETS GOOO

[@IconicTristan]

One day shuckle will get an evolution and eviolite shuckle will be born

[@Rafikichu]

Nice Pokeathlon music. :)

[@Rippimations]

"How the fuck do you kill him?" "How the fuck do you kill him?" "How the fuck do you kill him?" "Well gg shuckle"

[@thehawaiianpunch1769]

I wanna use a gen 6 ru team on the nat dex ladder to see how far I can go. Gen 6 RU was legit the highest I’ve ever gotten on the ladder (337)

[@robertm5110]

Look at that, Dorkly

[@chardawg5911]

Ngl Shuckle would go crazy in Gen 9

[@LUKEKICK1]

Ubers ƯU would make a fire video

[@DrShnig]

LOL THE KRICKETUNE BIT

[@jonathanwilliams225]

I used a shuckle with sticky web, power split, encore, and toxic in old gens

[@nishant9289]

The first three seconds alone make for an instant like

[@CaptainJLinebeck]

Shoutouts to Shuckle also being a prominent Sticky Web setter in Gen 8 Ubers

[@bryanbreadstick]

Moral of the story: Don't Fuckle With Shuckle

[@nethax2188]

Omg seeing footage from flamingspade bring me back old memory

[@CountGremlin]

SHUCKLE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@zerocell2657]

3:54 ah yes, heavy duty boots, my favorite move jk, great vid

[@YacubCubby13579ZR]

Seeing old clips from TheFlamingSpade brings back memories

[@protonjones54]

Love that thumbnail

[@cheddarsmith6568]

Only two shuckle's ive ever used was in gen 7 (i was weird there, sash marshadow, psyduck, riolu...). One was lvl 1, sturdy berry juice for free rocks webs, and a contrary shell smash for maniacal laughter

[@xindrcz9392]

I was naming every pokemon and i was missing one i gave up it was shuckle if I clicked to youtube i would have seen it this was the first video I saw Great video btw

[@elmago2808]

Yo Freezai! Just a heads up, at 7:24 it says HJK is 100% accurate. That would be kind of crazy lmao

[@greek1237]

In gens 6,7,8 I used it as a web steath rock setter. The thing carried me to many a win.

[@jaotrx7163]

Shcukle need a paradox form that inverts his stats

[@notlsa]

this is the best day of my life

[@EMPMagic]

Shuckle is a fan favourite pokemon.

[@slickTMC]

could you make a vid on mega-banette? personally one of my favorites, and a really interesting rise over the years

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

The time where Shuckle is in OU after gens ago is the time where the world was shocked

[@niteuqrellin5312]

Ran sticky web shuckle on a HO bug team in gen 8 monotype, with final gambit it was a pretty decent suicide lead

[@copyrightinfringement9472]

I used shuckle a few times in sword/shield vgc, and my favorite moment was when he eventually beat a registeel in a 1v1 because my opponent ignored the infestation for too long

[@Lachy1407]

"And Kricketune is Kiricketune and nobody will ever use that pokemon." That line made me crack up

[@ameer9653]

U mean crick up ?

[@asinikill4138]

Shuckle ❤

[@justarandomdood]

Dont fuckle with shuckle 😤😤😤

[@ThePumpkinHeaded]

You don’t fuckle with Shuckle.

[@Thanatossssx]

Some sound effects area a bit too loud freezai! great vid

[@TSfish94]

Shuckle was clearly listening to some Eric Thomas lectures in gen 6; “the opportunity of a lifetime means nothing if you miss the lifetime of that opportunity” and then he hit the 90s Jordan “I took that personally.”

[@T4N7]

Would've been nice for the offensive Shuckle builds to at least get some mention in the starting section of this video. It isn't a solely defensive Pokémon. If u can eliminate an opp's physical attackers, u can swap Shuckle's massive def stat with its abysmal attack stat n get an insane sweeper to clean up the opponent's special attackers n support Pokémon. Worked best in doubles where u could use Follow Me or Rage Powder to pull aggro from physical attackers n controllers to allow Shuckle to set up n then sweep with Rockslide

[@CFgenesisv1]

Shuckie with 20 atk but being able to deal the most damage of all pokemon

[@Zlacxi]

Don’t Fuckle with the Shuckle

[@twotamatos]

The best thing about shuckle is guard split in doubles it makes evolite Pokémon unstoppable u can genuinely make little cup Mon sweep legendaries with that 1 simple move

[@Trilobita98]

Power trick shuckle wya

[@Moonumbi]

"Shuckle is bad!" Shuckles defense: are you kidding me right now?

[@pranavmahendran5982]

Hey there, been a long-time fan. Vid Idea: Mons that are good in RandBats, but aren’t in normal tiers

[@arielli9489]

POV: When shuckle switches defense and attack and uses sword dance.

[@evaboeglin5690]

Sticky Web is also a popular strat in Little Cup

[@pmnt_]

Sticky Web, a U-Turn type support move.

[@wezen89]

4:20 that was so personal

[@Sanninsuplex]

I remeber watching Joe wreck the gen 7 ladder w/ shuckle. Good times

[@dff8088]

Fun fact: Shuckle would've been ubers in gen 8 if ubers was a usage based tier. Also, shuckle got banned from gen 7 mix and mega as well.

[@samuelcho5884]

Are we going to get the rest of smogon champions league?

[@gabrielmarchena1755]

Do you remember when galvantula got sticky web in gen 6 and it become a ou stable😂

[@ezvioc]

My only non-iffy shiny (from a gen 6 friend farm)I love shuckle

[@kingshuckle9832]

Hail the king!

[@daoluke476]

What's the song at 7:40

[@pranavg1487]

3:55 "Also, it was a generation where heavy-duty boots was introduced, a move that makes you immune to sticky web." Alright, Volcarona, use heavy duty boots!

[@Major_Nuance]

The true homies know the power of power trick shuckle

[@AM22Salabok]

Didnt know that heavy duty boots was a move

[@chachasmooth5863]

Hit her up and asked her to shuckle below the buckle

[@mr.redeyes2583]

To quote dookieshed: Don't Fkle With SHUCKLE!

[@averagetectonicplateenjoyer]

we need to make sure to keep shuckle viable otherwise nintendo might give it an evolution

[@burritoman2k]

Eviolite shuckle would be heat, it better get an evolution