How a COLD-BLOODED KILLER Became one of the Greatest JEDI the Order Ever Had

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

Jedi supporters: "The greatest Jedi are the kindest individuals" Aton Rand: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@geetslys]

Hahahaha!

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

@@geetslys I couldn't resist

[@williamcostigan91]

"Now I come in saying something suitably heroic."

[@ArbitersOfDemocracy]

c'en est une bonne

[@bloodyneptune]

I love that he sassed Kreia. She's a great character, but sometimes you just want you be like, can you not for five minutes? Not every moment is a moment to be mysterious and deep calm down

[@grinningdeathA7x]

This

[@michaelandreipalon359]

And then she counteracts your bullgunk apathy on this with more of her own bullgunk!

[@bloodyneptune]

@Michael Andrei Palon shed drive me nuts, because you're totally right, any attempt to get her to just grab a space Mai tai and chill would just be a prompt for more confusing parables about the force

[@ericcloud1023]

she's an amazing character....but there is no chill in that Woman! Lmao

[@Fuckalope]

True

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker]

It seems like this character was loosely based on the apostle Paul. Attacks Christians, kills them, imprisons them, tortures them, tries to get them to renounce their version of Judaism, etc.; then is literally shown the light, becomes a Christian himself, is avoided by the other Christians because most of them think he still wants to kill them, is eventually excepted, but still spends the rest of his life in trouble with the law and the powers that were.

[@kirkcannon8079]

I was thinking the same! Favorite Saint!

[@gamerboy6787]

Mind blown. That analogy never ever even crossed my mind. Thank you for your perspective. 👏👏👏

[@ravensoath]

Yep yep. Scrolled thru to see if anyone else mentioned this. I remember the first time playing and finding out his past then you help him open to the force and it felt just like Paul’s story

[@HavanaSyndrome69]

I always saw him being based on Han Solo. He talks just like early original trilogy Han which is a good thing by the way. "Han shot first" style Han Solo is an audience favorite

[@TheHumanPurpleTape]

Right? Rand always gave me major Saul of Tarsus vibes.

[@frostburn3736]

_"I'm as Atton as Atton will ever be!"_ Gets me every time. 😂

[@kylopat1652]

Loved Atton, he's the reason I turned into such a sarcastic person later in life.

[@geetslys]

Hahahaha, that’s funny

[@xTK421x]

Did you go full Chad too?

[@kylopat1652]

@@xTK421x always

[@TY-km8hj]

Captured criminal: U can't torture me, it's against the jedi way Atton: Did I say I was a jedi? I meant *Jedi killer*

[@The1980Philip]

Well, the line totally worked for Anakin.

[@Christian-be6eg]

Nah it was the line about hating sand and mass genocide

[@aHEMAfan]

Nah just sand

[@Shadowpack95]

Nice to know that a founding member of the re-forged Jedi order was a dark side aligned murderous torturer, and an adult. The Jedi council of the Prequel era probably would've covered up his existence.

[@noone-ov3cp]

They probably did I mean they denied the dark until Kenobi killed Maul, and refused to train a 9yo cuz he loved his mother Theyd never let someone like Atton be upheld as an example of redemption and potential for an adult, raised in the world, to be part of the order

[@BeauKillaB]

The Jedi exile was actually healed in a pre-Bacta mixture called Kolto.

[@concept5631]

Good point

[@SenVerweij]

So basically, metra surik defeated 3 of the most powerfull, infamous sith lords ever. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Great vid btw!

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

No. They were weak in the lineage of Sith and Sith from Vitius empire were FAR more powerful

[@SenVerweij]

@@bjrnthebootybandit well yea my bad, so were many others. Wasn't thinking about many other; exar kun, sidous and many more

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

@@SenVerweij no worries. She got sonned by Darth Nyriss

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@bjrnthebootybandit Drew K can go right to hell with that. Vitae was just a knockoff of Nihilus that got to keep his sanity by writer fiat. Fuck the Revan Novel, fuck SWTOR.

[@seawind930]

@@bjrnthebootybandit No they were Powerful. MMO's have to make powerful boss enemies and TOR looked at the lore and started pulling them out of their Arse. The writing is so bad it's almost Disney level.

[@Hilversumborn]

What I love about Atton was that at first he seemed like your typical Star Wars scoundrel character, but then your learn he was much more than that.

[@DarkKing009]

When the psychopathic Rogue joins the lawful good Paladin's party.

[@Karlos1234ify]

Jedi being Pure of heart? “From my point of view the Jedi are evil.“

[@TheWarmachine375]

"Oh I'm pure. Pure. Unadulterated. Badass."

[@jadosykes5446]

"Then you truly are lost..." All too easy

[@JacobWhite140]

@@TheWarmachine375 "More like pure unadulterated ego."

[@TheWarmachine375]

@@JacobWhite140 "I HEARD THAT, TRICLOPS!"

[@JacobWhite140]

@@TheWarmachine375 "Is that okay??"

[@Seraco5735]

When you become the very thing you sought to destroy, but it somehow benefits the jedi

[@michaelandreipalon359]

12:54: I do like the Redemption Equals Death trope too, but mostly for characters who've done so much wrong that them living is still wrong for me.

[@legiohysterius4624]

@Flying Kick have u seen shawshank redemption?

[@minkeyandzomble6206]

Like Moash/Vyre. But for me even his death wouldn't be redemptive. It'd just be the death of an irredeemable shithead

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@minkeyandzomble6206 Who's Moash/Vyre again? (Also, where's your comment all of a sudden?)

[@marshalllatta2073]

He must be most wanted man in the star wars galaxy in that time

[@geetslys]

Probably 😂

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Gotta love sassy and witty side characters with a surprisingly dark hidden side that will make you think twice all of a sudden. Same goes for really, really nice, charitable, and expressive characters who have a darker side of actually hurting if not killing people who threatened their friends, loved ones, and other preferred and innocent peoples even in the slightest offense with cold, calculating, and suddenly emotionless brutality.

[@geetslys]

Yep, it’s crazy to think that all Jedi have that side to them. But they have to hold it in!

[@michaelandreipalon359]

...I wasn't actually referring to Jedi here, but I guess this interpretation works.

[@ryanbright1363]

Just your friendly neighbourhood serial killers

[@TheWarmachine375]

2:42 Future Old Lady Sith, ladies and gentlemen.

[@zemilkman5450]

0:01 welp. I like how they called out a movie quote

[@indianajones4321]

Cold-blooded killer: Exists The Jedi Order: Welcome! Would you consider doing false flag war crimes?

[@robertagu5533]

So basically a villain lived long enough they turned into a hero, and probably quite a good or perhaps even BETTER hero then villain too. But then again, thats the origin trope of most villains turned hero

[@MatthewChenault]

Atton Rand’s story echos that of Paul the Apostle. Paul, in a similar vain to Atton, had started out as a Jewish Pharisee persecuting Christians only to experience an epiphany - a vision of Jesus - that changed his entire outlook on life. Afterwards, he became Christianity’s most prolific supporter, spreading the word to all the churches and beyond.

[@mike-0451]

Paul might have been the most based man alive during his time.

[@mike-0451]

He was a remarkable stylist. 1 Corinthians 15 in NKJ is stunning.

[@TheWarmachine375]

4:51 Frieza: "Oh my God. You can grind meat on those abs."

[@blackblack1167]

More on The Lost Jedi, please.

[@amanzeihedioha]

Kyp Durron: Whoa

[@fandemusique4693]

Anakin was 9 when he said the Angel line, so y'all should cut him some slack.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Plus, Jake Lloyd's personal life got screwed because of it. Sadly reminds me of Kelly Marie Tran's trolls and harassers.

[@fandemusique4693]

@@michaelandreipalon359 her character was and is awful, but she didn't deserved to be harassed

[@tristanwood4741]

Yes, please stop bullying Jake Lloyd

[@irvingtiburcio8273]

Last time I was this early, Legends was the only continuity

[@82dorrin]

Still is😂

[@hakusuna]

Bao Dur was one of my favourite characters, soft spoken and a complete badass with tech.

[@julianG1212]

Hard to believe without this guy yoda wouldn’t exist.

[@sean668]

In Buddhism, Angulimala is a ruthless serial killer who collects the fingers of his victims on a necklace as trophies. He murders entire villages and is hunted by kings. At his darkest moment when he goes to kill his own mother, Buddha intervenes and uses his supernatural wisdom to show Angulimala the error of his ways. After a mind boggling waking nightmare, Angulimala declares he wants to be a monk to redeem himself no matter how many lifetimes it takes. He becomes one of Buddha’s pupils and closest companions

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

Did he send his victim's families fruit baskets with their loved ones' fingers in them as recompense?

[@JettQuasar]

Whether or not you're a cold-blooded killer depends greatly on your point of view.

[@zexalbrony4799]

When you say that in context to this, it actually makes me think about that Lego adaptation of Episode 3 done in the Droid Tales story: Obi-Wan: Anakin, you destroyed the Republic! Anakin: I say it was the Jedi that were destroying the Republic and the Chancellor and I saved it. Obi-Wan: Nuun. Anakin: Yeahun. Obi-Wan: Nuun. Anakin: What I said is true, from a certain point of view. Obi-Wan: Anakin, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

What a good series, that. May the VA for Anakin there rest in peace though (he's also the VA for Cole from the LEGO Ninjago series).

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Yes that was sad to hear. On a happier note. I love you're new pfp. That was my favorite moment from the episode.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Why must some people die young and before their olden days? Mine's actually either the Willow and Amity moment (can't believe Willow actually does work out... she looked sad afterwards though, the poor soul) or the phone explanation on the docks (Poor Communication Kills trope successfully averted, great job), but both seemed a bit sad to be worth a PFP... poor Raeda though. Will be planning to use a Star Wars: Republic comic book cover so to celebrate the month of May when it comes out... if only I could get Republic #67's cover art with high resolution and no fonts. Anakin looked awesome and ragged there.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Say, Zexal, did you also enjoy the Rogue One and lightsaber play moments in Amphibia?

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

Yyeeeeees! Atton Rand rooocks!!! Awesome video! Yes please, I'd love more stories in the rest of the crew too!

[@DarkKing009]

I would greatly appreciate the rest of the companions Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2

[@TheWarmachine375]

Bet he still uses his torture methods to get important information from criminals he hunts down. Old habits die hard.

[@Megan-ii4gf]

He uses his torture methods in the bed chambers with mama meetra, gotta keep the spirit pure and all that

[@agentofchaos4441]

Just when I wanted a Video about Atton I got it, this was perfectly timed.

[@marystone860]

WOW! These guys sound like a Companion Party from DragonAge!

[@PutYourQuarterUpGaming]

In some ways, they are literally precursors to just that. Obsidian made kotor 2, but kotor 1 was made by bioware and along with original Baldurs Gate games, was BioWare’s foundational games, and where they first drummed up the entire “trope” as it is now.

[@chadflanaganCFC]

No mention on how much he loved Pazaak? or how that technique of concealing his thoughts was based around playing it

[@EliteWarrior1026]

What is better? To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? Also, is this KOTR?

[@victormontes7007]

Second one the sith lords

[@Sableguy97]

Yeah KOTOR 2 The Sith Lords. If you're going to play it, maybe forget you saw this video since it describes the entirety of what happens in the game

[@darthrevan5609]

At first I thought he was just KOTORS 2 version of Carth and I was gonna hate him always moping and pouting about not trusting anyone, but it was the contrary I actually enjoyed having him around and learning more about him because he was actually willing to talk

[@darkpit37]

Another really cool topic to go into since you're on jedi history would the history of the Barsen'thor title.

[@Yung-plague]

12:20 my man really said “maybe the lost Jedi were the friends we made along the way.”

[@muhamedquraishi]

THANK YOU for making this video he is my own favorite character in the entire KOTOR universe? He’s like Han Solo turned Jedi. One of the greatest written characters in the franchise.

[@jaebird3077]

I was playing KOTOR2 literally last night and thought "Geetsley should do a video on Atton" cause I had little knowledge of his story

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

This guy was basically a Sith style Han Solo.

[@DarkKing009]

Personally my favorite Redemption story Star Wars

[@the_headless_horseman9682]

So basically the real jedi were the friends we made along the way

[@vitorpereira9515]

Atton Rand : Tell me I'm not going to jail again.

[@DarkKing009]

My favorite Psychopathic Jedi

[@andrewgarrett1356]

Atton's entire character arc to me not only reads as a shining example of redemption, but also a blueprint for what Lucasfilm could have done with characters such as Ben Solo in the Sequel Trilogy. Or, they could have done the exact opposite and have Ben fall further and further until he became worse than Atton was back when he was a Jedi killer and torturer. I like a good redemption story, but I love me a well written, pure evil, sociopathic villain too.

[@TheWarmachine375]

5:31 Yet couldn't use it for some reason when Kreia read his mind.

[@mr.b4494]

ingame she shreds his defences after she becomes suspicious of his fear of jedi. Kreia also had the capability of seeing shatterpoints which meant it was only a matter of time until she did.

[@blackfangex6813]

Kreia did mentioned that his mind was difficult to read, it was later using his fear of the Jedi that Kreia manage to use this to read his mind

[@MrEntaray]

If you beat the game three times, when you first meet Atton of Peragus, he'll say "I wasn't meant to be in this game but they put me in last second". This is the kind of character that's put in last second, and he's a masterwork of storytelling.

[@mixmaster3028]

Something tells me he would’ve showed up in Kotor three. Along with reinforcements there was a lot of stuff planned for the third game.

[@ThoraxetheImpaile100]

And to think that this was a character that was added at the last minute.

[@magpen1790]

I think meetra is the epitome of a Jedi

[@lacucaracha111111]

That intro killed me, like hiding "I dont like sand" in random media XD

[@ehhhhhh1885]

Redemption arc of the year

[@lerneanlion]

So if Atton was a Sith Lord, I guess most Jedi will show no hesitation to cut him down, right? But since he is a Sith's associate, they forgiven him easily. Why is this? Why do Jedi showed no mercy to the Sith but are willing to show compassion to those who willingly and voluntarily associated themselves with the Sith? Also, none of these problems will ever happened if the Jedi Order simply do not attached itself to the Republic but merely maintaining good relations with it while secretly fighting against slavery on their own. By playing politics on Coruscant, the Jedi Order became corrupted in the end.

[@Sableguy97]

He thought he was making the scary boogey men who didn't help them when they needed it die and feel what he felt literally afraid of the force

[@dhaburuk6494]

Atton was Force-Sensitive and it showed in his talents and skills, but he was not corrupted by the Darkside like so many Sith - and the Dark-Jedi he broke - because he was not aware of its pull on him, even as he acted in kind with those who were. He did what he did for reasons, and continued for those reasons. He could be saved because he was still able to want to be saved. I'm not sure, but perhaps the Jedi who disturbed his walk did so because they sensed the Darkside had not swallowed him - that he was merely a shallow and wounded soul. Surik could more easily forgive and show mercy - he had turned away from the Darkside already. For the record, it is possible to have compassion yet withhold mercy. A deranged Sith may be a pitiful slave of the ever corrupting Darkside, you can wish that it were not so for their sake and the sake of their victims, and you can strike them down with extreme predudice because of what they will do in service to the Darkside. ... or perhaps that is itself mercy... interesting to think about.

[@harrambou9468]

They probably think Sith “underlings” aren’t beyond saving...or not as far gone

[@johnappleton3446]

And, also to be a sith lord, you are committing yourself to conquering the dark side and to bend it and all life to your will. Bit different than a hired gun who was lost in his desire for vengeance and force sensitivity.

[@XaldirGodofGood]

But they do. There are quite a few examples of Jedi showing compassion and forgiveness to the Sith, bringing them into the Order and showing them their ways of Peace and healing.

[@nickvinsable3798]

🤔 . . . Yes. I’d also like to hear the history from the end of _Knights of the Old Republic 2_ to the beginning of _Old Republic, The_ , i.e. the cinematic intro to that MMORPG (I know there was about 50 years between that intro & the beginning of the players’ journey; only relevant information to how the galaxy rebuilt itself within that time gap & such)…

[@VerdantJedi]

Were there any high council members or jedi masters alive after the events of kotor 2? Because if the fate of the jedi was to be determined by Meetra Surik, surely she would've been the grand master of the order at that time. I've always wondered what the lost jedi did to restore the order between the events of kotor 2 and swtor. They would've eventually been masters and had apprentices. Hmmm... Master Atton Rand... LOL.

[@sukitron5415]

If you mean from the high council that exiled the exile, only atris was alive because Vash died on Korriban and Kreia killed Kavar, Vrook and Zez-kai ell. All of the other dantooine council members died on Katarr

[@VerdantJedi]

@@sukitron5415 I mean apart from the council members that were present during Surik's exile. I'm guessing there were none that were off world. That just leaves Surik, her lost jedi companions, Bastila and the redeemed Revan, minus Atris of course. I would love to see how the jedi order rebuild from that era of the purge. The lack of mention of Surik and her companions who helped rebuilt the order is kinda strange to be honest. I really expected swtor to give a some massive nods to the events of kotor2, it was my favourite game.

[@minir3x729]

@@VerdantJedi The legends book "Revan" showed told nothing about the rebuilding of the order. BUT it did tell what happened to Revan, Surik, and Bastila after kotor ll. Revan and Surik traveled to the unknown regions to try to fight the sith empire before they returned (failed as you should know). And Bastila lived out the rest of her life on couruscant with her son having had force sensitive kids.

[@sukitron5415]

@@minir3x729 The Revan novel destroyed what KOTOR 1 and 2 had been building up to. The True sith were not as they should have been

[@sukitron5415]

@@VerdantJedi there were some scattered Jedi but they were mostly padawans, for example Kaevee who you meet in the Enclave in TSLRCM. I think the Exile gathers these padawans and maybe some scattered knights and masters

[@atlasnorris8670]

Can you please do a clone alignment chart?

[@anthonylis7646]

had no idea he could become a jedi in my first playthrough , i did know about him fighting jedi though

[@P.Subaeruginosa]

This seems to be based off the murderer monk story from Buddhism, he would kill and remove a finger from his victim because it would give him a fleeting sense of fulfillment. One day he happens upon a monk who doesn't fear him he says "if you think killing me will fulfill you then go ahead its my job to help people to fulfillment but I will say that it will not and you will never be fulfilled" the murderer ponders this and realizes the monk is right they talk some more and he becomes a monk, the victims family's attack him everyday but luckily for them he keeps on the path to true fulfillment.

[@Bloodgulchblue]

Kotor2 encapsulated the star wars galaxy in the best way to date

[@TheWarmachine375]

0:10 Wow, that lady is hot.

[@landonfausett9854]

Yes do the rest of them. Mical, Brianna, Bao-Dur, and Mira.

[@SuperOnePieceMaster]

Please do Meetra Surik's other companions.

[@Themrine2013]

Some times those who have the brightest souls, know nothing but darkness, and only need to be shown the light!

[@declanhandley-byrne4335]

That opening line Good to see that Star Wars had a sense of humor about its cringe even back in the mid 2000s

[@Mael_Str0M]

He’s as Atton as Atton will ever be!

[@honooryu5374]

Take that Vader, this is the best redemption arc.

[@pennpaper723]

oh my god how did this whole video go without you mentioning what game this is

[@earlware4322]

@Wookie hunter 69 THANK YOU!! I thought I had played this before, but did not recognize about 30% of the scenes... Was the Xbox version that different from PC??

[@Nufhtets]

@@earlware4322 Haven't watched the full video yet, but the video might showcase cutscenes from the Restored Content mod on PC.

[@PutYourQuarterUpGaming]

@@Nufhtetsit does (binging them, mention it in the newer by now kotor 2 story vid). Otherwise can say for sure the two retail versions are identical

[@Atriox2004]

3:07 Meetra looks just like Ana De Armas. Lol

[@heavensfugitive6447]

If Saul was a Star Wars Character…

[@arezdracul8650]

Awesome vid brah! Yes, plz more vids on the other companions

[@ethanpowell16]

Atton rand gotta be one of the best side characters ever in any game

[@AndromedaCripps]

God I forgot how good the plot of that game was….

[@ggt47]

Funny this came up. I was just picturing me and "Atton's" wedding.

[@kurtshirvinski836]

I really wish there was a mod where you and Atton gang up on Kreia and force crush her. Would be so satisfying

[@DarkKing009]

Atton "pour pazaak"

[@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233]

One of my favorite Kotor characters next to Jolee, Canderous, and HK-47.

[@overweightgerbil6747]

This is the stand alone Jedi game I want a game studio to do. Aton could be the perfect main protagonist

[@bhiei]

Great story, I thoroughly enjoyed it

[@Todzilla386]

My favorite character from that game! He deserves his own kotor of you asks me!

[@nch2004]

Pure pazaak.

[@personc6122]

I know a lot of people are going to be annoyed by this, so first of all I really like the channel and enjoy the videos. Second it's the ebon hawk not the eeeebon hawk, also please stop saying nucular, it's nuclear.

[@AZRAELIV]

That start lmao

[@Otababallin]

Kinda like a Star Wars version of St. Paul

[@domonator5000]

“UhM AcTuALlY iT’s a KolTo tAnK!”

[@jonathant9175]

"Pair-uh-gus" Tell me you never played KOTOR 2 without telling me you never played KOTOR 2 lol

[@HistoryCultureFiction]

Yes I would. I loved those games and I am curious what happened to them.

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

That’s twice that the Main Character has left thier group! We need a Kotor 3, I wanna know what happened to The Reborn Revan and Meetra, and if their companions ever saw them again!

[@NightcallerZ]

Watching/listening to this has made me wanna restart KOTOR 2. Aton was one of my favorite characters. Just like Carth was in KOTOR :P

[@lifelessperson1993]

Other lost Jedi please! Mira next.

[@brokenbridge6316]

It would be nice to hear about that other lost Jedi. So please tell us about them.

[@Trylen]

If you ever listen to the rhythm of the name of the Smuggler's moon, think of a muppet moment. Mahna mahna. Everything you've said "Narr Shaddaa" I've done that.. thank you for getting away from the Hutts.. when I played SWToR my guild tried to ban me from even saying the name of the Smuggler's moon, heh heh.

[@Foxtail190]

Hell Yea! Kotor content is always approved by me baby!

[@samhinnant4416]

Is Attons duel with Sion not in the original game? Is it just in the restored content mod?

[@TY-km8hj]

Yes unfortunately

[@midzik48]

Easily one of the best Star Wars games ever (after installing the Restored Content Mod). I think my favorite part of the game is arguing with Atris or the battle with Darth Nihilus' invasion force.

[@sambridgers9543]

My boy Atton! How did I miss this video?

[@Dewicre]

It was a kolto tank.