How a little water killed a 2025 Toyota Prado Altitude | Auto Expert John Cadogan

[@AutoExpertJC]

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[@entropyachieved750]

Merry Xmas John hope the chemotherapy is going well...

[@mark-wo2wj]

SATANS PRADO......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gavinhenderson5862]

I used to skip ahead on the ads, but now you have Ming Molls in them I was unable to do so.

[@davetaylor4741]

Before they had electronic everything Toyota made reliable tough vehicles. Now they join the modern ranks of all vehicles packed with electronics. Basically Shit.

[@markbennett2170]

Totally agree! If you want reliable transport, Buy an old Toyota!

[@pkjmfineart1593]

98 Hilux 3L non turbo diesel 2wd here! Less than 200,000k. O what a feeling! \0/ 😂

[@mondotv4216]

Today's cars are a lot safer - and the airbags, forward collision detection, cameras and most of the safety systems all rely on ... electronics. The biggest gripe isn't really the electronics, it's the fact that to most people they're just a complex black box, so diagnosing and fixing any electrical fault is beyond them. We tend to look at the past through rose coloured glasses but the stats tell us vehicles built back then with mechanical points and carburetors were much less reliable than modern cars.

[@davetaylor4741]

@mondotv4216 Very debatable. Road traffic accidents are going up not down. As are road deaths. Incidents of car caused accidents from so called driver aids and safety features. Tesla's are very good at hitting things on their own. In car distractions are also a major contributing factor to accidents. The old tanks I drove as a kid were so solid they hardly bent in an accident. Plus the simple nature of the things made them easy to fix with no special tools. My son in law is a mechanic. Specialising in all the electronics. And not only are they always going wrong. The cost of repairing the problems, often writes the cars off prematurely. So I will keep my 25 year old Ute with no electronics and annoying habits. And it is very reliable. Plus simple to work on.

[@davetaylor4741]

@markbennett2170 I own two. 310 000K on one nearly 450 000K on the other. Start, drive, repeat. That is all they need to do.

[@buckrogers3727]

After years of buying new Toyota’s, I concluded that there are no good new cars. Next up I’ll be buying a 80 series and completely refurbishing it.

[@CobraMade-]

Yuck

[@gregdean8441]

Great choice.

[@markmcgrath9098]

Better use if your money imho.

[@adifferentangle7064]

those corolla/camry hybrids will all still be on the road in 30 years. Most probably still with the original owner. The hybrid system is brilliant for mulling about on inner-city roads. The mistake they've made is trying to stick all that shit in things that are going to get thrashed about in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere. They used to actually test their cars in the middle of the Australian outback, which is one of the reasons they gained such a great reputation. Whatever that thing was, it obviously wasn't tested on anything other than a track.

[@harrywalker968]

why do you toyota guys buy so many.. ??..i had a ford bronco for 24 yrs. never any probs. cost 3.5k.. i fitted a d44 solid axle d60 rear. cost $1,500. raised about 6''. 35.s.. wheel base between toyota & nissan, but wider. more stable.. cv,s are a paint in the ass. why do japs continue with them. u.s. trucks have uni,s. $26. & 1.5 hrs to change, & no greesy mess..toyota lost the plot between the 60 & 80.. 60 had leaves, they fixed that with coils.. but they omitted the trans brake & went in disc.. also, the radius rods rip off the diff & chassis, as there thru bolt, not thru eye bolt. like nissan.. best thing about an 80, is low range 1st. nearly as good as my s/duty. 4.2tdi.. 02.. owned 9 yrs, never touched it. 700nm.. 180kw.. 14 lt 100..tows 4.5t. up hill in 5th.. mate has an 80. he,s scared to use 5th as they blow.. one of the hundreds of reasons why i wont buy a toyota.. too expensive, too gutless.. too cramped. too noisy. especially the junk 79 series. mate re built his 80 series calipers, he has 2 of them, they didnt fit the other.. ????... frigin jap sht.. '' but all the tracks are made for toyotas.''.. no there not. land rover made them.. IF. you bought an 80, & a gu nissan. you could have best of both worlds.. a decent 4x4.. seeing toyota use nissan diffs.. nissan have shorter coils tho. toyota has a better low range. better body..

[@frednurks8528]

Amazing how Toyota can diagnose a problem in a relative instant on a new model but a few episodes ago we learn of a poor gentleman waiting over six weeks of Toyota procrastination before they admitted the guys engine is stuffed and needs replacing under warranty.

[@terrijones1689]

The supposed diagnosis was just a cover story for design and engineering shortfalls, which Toyota doesn't presently understand, and doesn't intend to fix anytime soon.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Well that depends. I wouldn't say problems can be instantly diagnosed, anyone who thinks that doesn't know how the real world works. Sure you will get an error code, but there could be a number of things causing that code.

[@graemeandrews5535]

One of their problems is they can’t diagnose problems at the dealership.

[@DanielSan-ch7dr]

​@@graemeandrews5535even with video evidence of the prado sounding like a bag of hammers trying to exit engine they still focussed on blaming fuel pump injectors and fuel LOL. Drained oil and found a sparkly mess😢.

[@OverlandTravellers]

“How the actual fuck can water in the air filter effect the 48v generator” 😂 took the words right outta my mouth

[@jamesh7395]

Lifelong Toyota fan boy here. I don't mind paying a premium for a superior product, but the value equation with Toyota has fallen so much, it's now beyond a joke. Same old motor, a token hybrid that adds little except complexity, the extra requirement of ad blue, less fuel capacity, and a messy boot set up. All for an extra $10K. So I looked at used Prados, but even then you're looking at $40-50K for a 5-10 yr old car with 100K on the clock and you run the gauntlet of injector or DPF issues. So for the same price I bought a brand new Mitsubishi Pajero Sport with 10yr warranty, super-reliable, great off road and good fuel economy... Very happy.

[@davidnobular9220]

You forgot "couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding"

[@ibd1977]

I'm a happy owner of a brand new PJS,GSR, even though it's also full of electronic gizmo's which could be an issue if pushed hard off road.

[@jamesh7395]

@@ibd1977 congrats - they're hard to beat for value. Loving mine as well.

[@rickb314]

100% agree that The Golden Rule is NEVER BUY THE FIRST MODEL OF A NEW VEHICLE. Always, always, always wait for the mid-life update when the manufacturer has fixed the issues, ironed out the bugs and listened to feedback.

[@dalehutchence5752]

Well if everyone did that no manufacturer would sell any cars and they would eventually all go broke

[@rickb314]

@dalehutchence5752 then you go right ahead and be the early-adopting fool who supports the fault-ridden, subpar, not-tested-as-extensively- as-it-should-have-been brand new models from car manufacturers... enjoy!

[@stephenw2992]

Like software companies, car companies now beta test their latest plastic crap out in the market place on poor unsuspecting consumers

[@rickb314]

@@dalehutchence5752 sad thing is there are plenty of f00ls out there who have to be "the first to buy that new model" and these early adopters pay the price... I'm happy to sit back and let them tbh!

[@wigs1098]

Perhaps an analysis of this is in order. If every new model was that bad no manufacturer would still be in business. Logically some vehicles will have faults but common sense suggests most new models both past and present will be ok. The problem now is, with such short model cycles and cars being disposable items, R&D isnt about improving durability, but just getting the vehicle to last for its designed lifetime which probably isnt much longer than the warranty period.

[@peterwilliam4681]

Funniest thing is that Prado will be on the lot as a demonstator model soon.

[@80six30]

Yeah , low km’s dealer demo🤣

[@southerncharity7928]

Your wife’s boyfriend will probably buy it

[@zorbakaput8537]

@@southerncharity7928 Troll alert!

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

"The manager's own personal car. He's only used it going to and from work". "The service department manager was going to buy this one but regretfully had to let it go for reasons that were beyond his control".

[@brettrogers8482]

Rego = 2BB2MA (Vic). Give it a wide berth.

[@ritual64]

The Christmas gift we all needed, JC having a go at Toyota. Thanks John, I needed this. Oh what a feeling.

[@Rockbottomsurf]

While we are at the “bogan Siri” development, can someone explain why we need a scan tool in cars today? I mean, we have a computer screen the size of an iMax theatre on the dash so why doesn’t it tell us every diagnostic a scan tool can do?

[@dn059]

My guess would be they don't want the owner/Customer to access info about the car themselves. They want to make it difficult so it has to go back to the dealer to diagnose any issues ($$$)

[@davidwild66]

Most people can't even be bothered to open the owner's manual.

[@Rockbottomsurf]

@ then the car companies should have no reason to blame owners when things go wrong. They have the ability to diagnose faults but keep it secret from the car’s owners.

[@dn059]

@@Rockbottomsurf 💯 agreed

[@zopEnglandzip]

Have you ever done a scan, pulled a code then used that to repair? All the diagnostics can tell you is which component isn't happy or which parameter isn't being achieved, you then have to figure out why. If you want that capability just drop a few quid on a scanner but considering most drivers in developed countries don't even attempt to change a tyre what's the point in having that function built in, itd be as pointless as carrying a spare tyre.

[@RedVMember]

And right away Toyota warrantee department saying "Not covered" lol

[@jamessmyth5949]

All vehicle manufacturers are exactly the same, no exceptions. Their salesmen come across just like the best friend you lost touch with years ago if you walk onto the dealer lot to buy one of their overpriced vehicles. When it comes time for a warranty claim though, the niceties are over and they refer to the fine print in the sales contract that states that your vehicle engine problem isn't covered under warranty for any number of irrelevant issues, like you failed to polish the door handles at 10,000Km.

[@bitey6709]

Not Covered. You're not supposed to take it off roading. It's only meant to look like you can.

[@Kamo442]

You can take a Hyundai N out on the track and use all the track mode rev matching, you'll still be covered

[@jeppo1185]

Deny. Defend and Depose

[@FredPilcher]

A friend of mine recently bought a Land Cruiser to tow his aluminium shitois to DPC. It got from Canberra to Wagga Wagga when it went poopie in its metaphorical trousers. Long story short, the dealer in Wagga diagnosed the cause - he'd driven it over a dirt road, which apparently you're not supposed to do. It took three months for a replacement engine to be obtained and fitted. Let that be a lesson to us all!

[@AutoExpertJC]

Pathetic, obviously.

[@Ful-OGold]

Just wait until they force us into electric utes

[@zakuraayame5091]

I say it is a misunderstanding of the name; your friend heard 'Land Cruiser' and thought it could cruise over any land ... no, no, no [chuckle], it can only Cruise on Land that is paved, if it hasn't rained for a few weeks; it isn't a Sea Cruiser ffs.

[@ballsyau1974]

If you read the uses manual. You will find Toyota landcuiser and Prado are not meant to go off of the black top. It voids the warranty 😂

[@wax333]

Every 4x4 company says that. But then all it's marketing material is shown off the tarmac ​@ballsyau1974

[@chrishewitt1165]

It's also important to leave the stereo on full volume when you return it😉. The hire companies love that too

[@MrChriswoo26]

A clean Prado....in a shopping centre carpark.... sounds like most Prado's I know! Next stop the school carpark!

[@larryjimbob]

Come on, they might have a gravel drive to surmount 😁

[@ianmansfield8885]

I get sick of people believing that all prados are shopping trolley.. all mine have been used all over Australia and never an issue used and abused carefullu

[@ianmansfield8885]

And mine get cleaned back to immaculate on a regular basis

[@wenhuahuang8274]

@@ianmansfield8885ppl calling prado a shopping trolley because of the hatred from LC 300 owners that they had to justify paying 50% more for car that practically has the same functionality

[@marcelallenke26]

​@@wenhuahuang8274basically everyone that can't afford one 😅

[@trainwreckinadumpsterfire]

This is making my 20+ year old Land Rover Defender look ultra reliable. Keep up the good work!

[@daweigo6851]

😅😅

[@robgw]

Also 'New Defender' now 5 years old. All quiet there as they have proven to be very reliable!

[@samboelliott1]

I don't know what it is with your timing, but these video uploads of yours always seem to arrive at the best time. Cheers John.

[@AutoExpertJC]

Cheers, Sambo. All the best mate.

[@angusrainbow8853]

Suspect it’s mud interfering with brushes on the 48v alternator/starter and they didn’t want to give the reason away. This is exactly why that WA 4wd reviewer said a sealed alternator was his favourite upgrade on his 70 series. Fyi all military alternators are sealed, probably the first upgrade you should consider if you’re going off road on a new 250.

[@0HOON0]

Isn't the 48v motor generator inside the transmission?

[@ben7020]

I wonder the special 48v alternator cost

[@bubbleboy468]

Totally agree. But my Toyotas just shat themselves this week in heavy flooding rain. Other cars got through no drama but my taxis have the alternators at the bottom and were destroyed by flooded roads. Oh what a feeling.

[@mondotv4216]

@@angusrainbow8853 Not an alternator - it's a 48V Motor generator connected to a 48V battery, so a hybrid drive train. Like everyone else I'm confused how water in the airbox gets into the 48V Drivetrain. I can only assume it air cooled and not liquid cooled.

[@grug5259]

@angusrainbow8853 none of the in service military vehicles I work on have sealed alternators

[@jackbarnes6929]

Never mind the water ingress, this can be easily fixed by avoiding water but wait till the 2.8L engines start to fail due to bearings and crank failures whilst heavy towing.

[@davidhayter8516]

Why would anybody who knows anything about towing heavy, buy a Prado?

[@jackbarnes6929]

@ yep, but muppets know SFA

[@Wdeane1957]

@davidhayter8516 It's the ones who don't know anything about towing that buy cars like this based on their claimed towing ability. Forget about GVM and GCM, its just the 3.5 tonnes that gets their attention.

[@Saphire0437]

You know this 2.8 has been around for 10 years right? It's been towing all that time just fine. It's also in a bus and a light truck. What is supposed to be happening to them?

[@rob7385]

☝️ I’ve seen a few that definitely weren’t just fine with relatively low kms😂

[@ro...valverde1622]

Blows my mind that the Land Cruisers have their alternator on the lowest part of the engine!

[@markrainger6817]

Why worry about the air intake as a vehicle manufacturer when we know that the first thing you do with a 4WD is put a stainless steel 10” intake on a new vehicle. We all know that makes everything better.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Unless you don't seal every little crack and join in the entire intake system....

[@cze33e]

lol.

[@GlenB1963]

John for F sake stop working and have a beer. It's Christmas 🎄 ❤

[@davidwild66]

Happy Birthday to baby Jebus.

[@MichaelSuter-s9k]

@@davidwild66 🤣🤣🤣

[@chrisscott558]

Money to be made. Chill

[@hellohello8556]

🙊🙉🙈🐒

[@mini_steve]

I'm fairly certain you can actually type fuck. We all know what it means. Also, I guarantee that he or possibly she (nobody knows what John got for Christmas) had a great break.

[@mattgriffith7146]

Obviously the alternator was located in the air-box...you know to protect it from water.

[@scotts8283]

😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@scotts8283]

That's fukn hilarious 😅😅

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

if you are serious re a waterproof alternator see Perth Diesel site as they make a water cooled alternator that is totally waterproof and can run underwater... just for your Toyota.... but might be a damned good buy if you go miles offshore in your little boat that has a diesel engine....and you don't want to run out of electrickery way out there....

[@mondotv4216]

@@mattgriffith7146 Funny but it's not an alternator. It's a 48V motor/generator/battery hybrid system. So I'm guessing they've couldn't put it up high because the motor has to be low enough to connect to the drivetrain?

[@mattgriffith7146]

@@mondotv4216 Thank you for that correction. I am also fun at parties.

[@Mark-qn9xl]

Makes me appreciate my 12 year old Prado 150

[@robg6485]

Oh what a shafting, toyota! Straight in, no kissing. YESSSSSS!

[@pkjmfineart1593]

Rear main seal covered by warranty? 🤔🥴

[@ajstevens1652]

​@pkjmfineart1593 Not covered. Not supposed to get it dirty.

[@RogerM88]

If John is this hyped criticizing the Toyota's choice to locate the intake, just imagine if he took a look in some UK water crossings videos, with cars having their intakes low in the wheel arches.

[@peterwilliam4681]

I did motor reviews for Holden years ago with their press cars.Holden head office had a blacklist of motor journalists who valve bounced and thrashed the crap out of their loaners.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

That's a pity... they should actually have retained them as car testers on their own staff for finding the sort of problems that Holden should have been countering at the factory.... before the problems got out into the public.

[@Low760]

​​@@JohnSmith-pl2bkexcept abuse is different to testing enthusiastically. Ve's and VF's were very publically tested.

[@lukeclifton4392]

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk… building a quality vehicle was never the ethos of Holden engineering anyway!! Hence why they had a blacklist for those who pushed the engineering beyond its “purported quality” limits!😂

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@lukeclifton4392 Yeah, I drove Holdens (and Fords) at abnormal speeds (but legally for "The Job" ) for 24 years. There is nothing like setting up for a corner at 180kmh...and having the rev limiter arbitrarily decide to cut in...and out...and in...and out.... Mind you the driveshaft felt like a piece of liquorice flailing around under the car. Nothing like arriving (after flogging the 202 mightily ) at "a scene" and seeing and hearing the Holden spew 3 quarts of coolant on the ground as the radiator gives up...and the person to whom you wish to be seen as being in control...falls to the ground from laughter. Forward motion slowly ceasing as the Trimatic becomes Traumatic... Slowly coming to a halt as the 5 burly passengers in the new, much-promoted 1977 HX Holden with Radial Tuned Suspension .....weigh down on the rear suspension enough to pinch the fuel pipe closed... But I digress...

[@EARTHROMR]

Hire car companies also have the same for those who smash the rev limiter before the oil light goes out in front of them...

[@cruiser207]

I visited a Toyota Dealership to check out the new Prado. After chatting with a salesman he suggested that I not buy one for at least 18 months. Go figure 😮 I am sure his boss would love to hear him make that comment.

[@sheldonlea]

An honest salesman. WOW! What a refreshing change. Good to hear. I agree with him.

[@Murrayhewitt1967]

Good guy. I would buy from him. We ain’t all stupid.

[@creperanch8968]

Toyota have been resting on laurels from a time when it was a novelty to have a car that didn't break down every Thursday, and they have been overtaken on every single metric by multiple other manufacturers long ago. Even 15 years ago when i was selling new Toyotas it was the same, and nothing has changed since.

[@Marks.Reviews]

You would think “if” a journalist in the very limited time of having a vehicle can cause a vehicle to become inoperable as a result of using the vehicle for its intended purpose, that the testing the manufacturer did, wasn’t very thorough. Also Car sales could have chosen not to reveal this experience that left them stranded. So good on them for letting us all know despite the consequences that may face from Toyota. Also like many have said, doesn’t matter which brand, there are always concerning issues with new product in at least the first year of it’s production.

[@davidkelly3779]

“Toyota reliability is a brain virus”, that is pure Gold.

[@dr.killjoy5001]

Yes, and every 2-bit aussie has it.

[@GuitarsRockForever]

Toyota used to make the most reliable cars. When reliability is the most important factor, Toyota used to be the king. That was why it was the car of choice by terrorist groups, warlords, rebel groups, etc around the world. I remember one of US military general (or some sort of high authority) said when Isis was at its strongest point (on how to easily defeat Isis): if we can magically replace all their Toyota with one of American truck.

[@Ful-OGold]

Were you going to do a video on Nissan, Honda and Mitsubishi joining together?

[@stendecstretcher5678]

That would be interesting.

[@davidnobular9220]

@@stendecstretcher5678 The death knell for Mitsubishi. Vale Delica....

[@80six30]

Maybe he was buying mangoes for the jaGuar Christmas Party 🤔

[@BradKarthauser]

What is wrong with new Toyotas? My 2006 Toyota with over 206,000 miles (331,000 km) is still going strong.

[@kennethprocak5176]

That’s correct 2006, can you speak for something else, no.

[@totwallybaba]

DEI engineers

[@johnvanderwerf4327]

My 2005 100 series 435,000 no chip standard muffler still going strong paint work a bit faded

[@EARTHROMR]

2005 Prado V6 6 speed manual, 326000km, original clutch, great vehicle

[@BradKarthauser]

@Earthworm The Toyota Highlander with a manual transmission has not been offered in the USA for a number of years now. Even finding a decent used one is very difficult. Manual transmission cars in the US are known as anti-theft devices because 99 percent of teens can't drive one.

[@Angler233]

The Toyota haters gonna hate, oh but it lasted longer than a ranger.

[@dr.killjoy5001]

That doesn't mean we have to love toyota...

[@robd2096]

Well obviously it didn't, did it.

[@davidnobular9220]

AdBlu

[@robd2096]

The 48V front drive booster fried in the mud puddle, "Oh what a feeling, Toyota".

[@Lxone-12]

Oh is that a new shape for Prado , it’s only been about 15 years since the last change . Toyota , reliable but oh so boring designs and interiors

[@MichaelRobinson-hy8ms]

What a wonderful video to bookend a year of your scintillating reviews and commentary. Love your work. Have decided ‘shopping trolley’ is now a verb given your adaptation. Well done.

[@Low760]

Most of the new prados and the Lexus gs I've seen are driven by people that most likely came from the same country as tata and Mahindra. Most will not even see a wet road until the second owner let alone go off road.

[@michaelguerin56]

The original Land Rover V8 (Series III) vehicles had the starter motor right down the bottom. If the driver did not drive steadily through a river/stream crossing and allowed it to stall, he had to be towed out and wait the water to drain out of the starter motor, which happened quite quickly. Our female sappers actually listened to the instructions😁! Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.

[@commonsense7754]

Does the intake cool the battery?

[@davidnobular9220]

Only in an EV.....

[@michaelperry4308]

17:43, totally agree, that's why I loved it when Tobacco Companies paid to sponsor Moto GP and F1 so I could watch it for free, and not even buy their product, those were the days.

[@sustainart5207]

You can move to Switzerland and watch for free because the Swiss are too poor to pay to watch it.

[@arnonmus1]

Cicadas producing industrial levels of noise!

[@AutoExpertJC]

It's deafening outside.

[@fredfred2363]

So that's what the noise I can hear is...?! Aha. Must be warm in Aus. 👍🏻🇬🇧🎄

[@doomslayer4276]

There's something called "active noise cancellation " look into it or pay for an AI tool to seperate your voice

[@alwayscrapontv]

But I need to have the new model before the Jones's. I'll spec the snorkel and she'll be right mate! Right?...

[@kevinbarry71]

Toyota sends its most dishonest executives down to Australia. I'm not sure if it's punishment or self-defense

[@MattBlack6]

Still haven't managed to have any airbox problems on the 80 series diesel. I don't know if I can pin it down, but I get the feeling that in the mid nineties, Toyota were making a lot bigger attempt at durability and quality than they are now.

[@Saphire0437]

I don't have any airbox dramas on my 2018 hilux either. Makes you wonder what else these people get up to.

[@YZJB]

Those are clearly mangoes, not peaches, John…

[@davidkennedy4845]

...or very large apricots!

[@82MLPGTS]

Definitely. Maybe peaches have more comic value? I dunno.

[@AndyM...]

Engineers need to go back to design school and have ALL the basic functions that require a vehicle to start and move hard encoded into the engine management system as a get you home function (I know some vehicles have a limp mode !). Even if you have to click an ''I Accept" button on the dash that'd be fine by me. To have a car completely not start at all (here's where I am not buying Toyotas cloak and dagger explanation for this event) for a seemingly minor sensor detection is abysmal. There was another vehicle that was out bush when a rear wheel speed sensor wire got snagged by a stick and had broken the cable. The car would not drive at all after this. I get it that the ABS and traction control would not operate as designed, but to leave a vehicle STRANDED because of this, is design incompetence. Similarly a dash notification and "I Accept" option with an explanation of the issue and consequences would be far superior than being stranded with thousands of dollars in recovery costs for a broken sensor wire. I love high tech stuff, but it has to be as fool proof as possible for the BASIC vehicle functions.

[@wapphigh5250]

Agree - except the road recovery business the car manufacturers probably make additional revenue off would all go out of business?

[@pkjmfineart1593]

Like jAgUars limp mode? 😂

[@AndyM...]

@@pkjmfineart1593 LOL, well they have just given "limp" a whole new meaning !!! 😆

[@pete.i7057]

Sounds like loads of ex-Boeing 737Max engineers were hoovered up by the japanese car giants to assist with their new models. Agree though, that all issues should have a 'getyouhome' bypass.

[@davidnobular9220]

They don't get to be an engineer unless they pass "Built in obsolescence 101"

[@albertkang1052]

Unoffcially, JC's Upload of the Year (UoTY).

[@PSmurf107]

Yeh JC, Jesus Christ man!

[@mattigower1479]

Why am I suddenly inspired, to go looking for a Holden Kingswood to buy, or an XW (is that one?) Falcon? Aaah, we just didn't know when we were well off, or how well off we were. Now look what happened. . . .

[@MrTonaluv]

don't know about Kingswood's but XW Falcons are rare! good luck finding one in any condition.

[@brettpowter6010]

Exactly why the old pre computer stuff is crazy prices ive been looking for years for late 70 s early 80 s jeep cherokee v8 wagon but they sell as soon as they hit the market simple, strong, powerfull, comfortable, great turning circle , and no bloody computers n sensors everywhere to fail and a unkillable petrol v8... The 75 grand u save will buy petrol and servicing for 50 years...

[@RoyFJ65]

Engines blowing up, dying in mud, what a sad end for Toyolet.

[@AutoExpertJC]

It's a covert operation. Fooled you.

[@sgtkabukiman9411]

Well it is a Lady Cruiser, it's not meant to go off road. The only water fording they're meant to do is crossing gutters going into driveways, and the occasional pothole on the school run or shopping trip. Plus, it looks just like the type of vehicle you'd expect to do this.

[@RavenAutoPartsCo]

I can't believe Toyota has gone so far down hill in quality and warranty. The only Toyota car I actually owned was a Celica and also 2 Hi Lux pickups. Never had any major problems. Basically tyres, brake pads, oil and filters with one pickup requiring tie rod end and ball joint. Even when they were worn out and my mum gave me her Corolla...no problems. I thought the fuel injected motor would get cranky with some kms on it but no. With 360,000km on it it was still doing well. I changed to Mitsubishi after that and never had trouble up to this day.

[@D0zer122]

7:27 margarine? FFS use butter! Lol

[@AutoExpertJC]

I am just following the official guidelines, dude. They're in the Constitution for a reason.

[@D0zer122]

@@AutoExpertJCja nee, if I immigrated to ‘Straya, I’d make margarine illegal and rewrite the Constitution. Margarine cannot be good for your ‘constitution’ at all.

[@RM-au9mm]

Hey John, that scratching on the paint is called "bush pin striping"

[@belowme4927]

NEVER BUY A FIRST YEAR VEHICLE. YOU ARE THE TESTER FOR THE COMPANY.

[@Ryan4by4]

I've done multiple deep river crossings in my 2016 Prado and have not once had any "malfunction". It's the pointless 48v system and the half arsed implementation of it that's the problem.

[@Saphire0437]

Funny, I thought he said it was the airbox leak and that the engine was dead. Something doesn't add up. It's the same old 2.8 essentially with a beefed up electrical system. The 48v system crapping itself shouldn't brick the motor its bolted to. The battery sits in the car and the system under the hood is at the same level height wise that the electrics have always been. So firstly, how does an airbix leak affect any of this? And secondly, if somehow the 48v system is the culprit, why is the whole car "dead"? There are some porkies being told here somewhere.

[@blitzdiesel1870]

Congratulations john,I have now succumbed to the safety of incontinent pants after shitting myself with laughter after this gem.boy was it worth it.

[@Dubious.Bovine]

I dunno, I'm pretty happy he gave it a wash before going peach procuring. It looks heaps better all clean while being loaded on that tow truck.

[@AndrewChandler-zp6nf]

Toyota must have done a collab with ford on how to let water into places it shouldn't be My 2005 fiesta was getting water in the spark plug valley from water dripping down from the window washer sprayers and also the top of the drivers side strut tower which has rusted the the nuts and bolts of it which i think may be due to the plastic trim at the bottom of the windscreen

[@retiredsparky4814]

😂😂 Just finished a swing in the Pilbara my hilux dash was like a xmas tree flashing lights and 3 different visit the dealer messages after we had rain

[@headmondronary2127]

Shit really. We're just about to replace our reliable 70series fleet with new hiluxes. We do regular trips out to the Gibson, little sandy and great sandy. It seems that the comforts are more important than reliability these days.

[@davidnobular9220]

@@headmondronary2127 Yeah, but doesn't everyone want a 200 inch LCD screen with Apple Carplay and Android Auto, with triple overhead chrome dingo cams, heated/chilled leather seats, 27 star safety rating with airbags on every flat internal surface that is more than one square inch etc etc..... Oh wait......

[@Saphire0437]

What are you doing to them? 175,000km on mine and yet to see a light. Blokes on the n80 page doing heavy vehicle escort work up north just clocked 800,000km.

[@cayne1]

Peaches? I see mangoes.

[@davidnobular9220]

They're southern mangoes.....

[@vudu5vudu]

100 Series. The End.

[@ozbassman11]

Thanks for the video. I thought my aircon was faulty watching this clip, but then checked and realized that there is a hissing sound in the background through the entire video. Might want to check your setup.

[@AutoExpertJC]

It's the cicadas, mate.

[@goldfools5445]

Is the tilt tray more than a 12% hill. 🤣

[@Danger_mouse]

14:37 - I discovered this on our first V8 Land Cruiser Minesite vehicles 15 years ago. We would have to seal the filter element edges with Denso tape to stop dust passing around the filter to the engine!! On the water entry to the alternators via the air filter, sounds probable to me that Toyota has ducted air from the housing to alternator body for cooling... Must have chosen the bottom of the enclosure 🤣🤣🤣

[@PlumbBob-FGX]

Whats going wrong at Toyota? 50 years of durability and reliability being pissed up against he wall, for what?

[@burnside9]

Emission requirements

[@bravelyHomoSapien]

On the 7th day, God realised that water inappropriately added to the electronics of cars, would render them dead. 💀

[@DJTrumpMAGA]

To be fair, Toyota is still the most reliable car maker in the world. However if they keep going the direct they are now, that will no longer be the case. Simplicty and reliability go hand in and. I am just glad I bought a 22 Hilux Rogue without the 48v shitbox.

[@Glenny_J]

Designed like a brick from the 80's with the resulting drag coefficient. A boot with a lip bigger than Andrea Ivanova. An engine that has been rubbish for over a decade. Now add in a 48 volt airbox and a circa 100k price and yet people are queueing up to buy them. Oh what a feeling.

[@Andre-yu3qs]

I hope you had a Merry Christmas John!

[@OutbackOutlaw]

I love Straya. Cicadas in the background throughout the video. The best video to discuss the Prado…instead of crickets…😂😂😂

[@dylanwebb421]

Why have I never owned a Toyota? Can't imagine why.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

You've missed out on an average, reasonably long lasting motor vehicle... beloved by the conservative penny conscious motorist. I must admit that I resemble that remark... Having also, at least once, owned a Bedford, a VW Beetle based kit car and a Jaguar... I am utterly grateful...for my sensible Toyotas...

[@Hillzy_Eighty7]

Cant afford one?

[@davidhayter8516]

You know fuck all about automotive engineering?

[@brentonl2631]

And people pay a $100000 for these. As Morgan Freeman once said in Batman Returns, "Good Luck with that".

[@kristofergobbe4838]

Not smart. At all. But drove my ldv v80van through about 500mm of water near buckety/lagarno, Hunter valley. Stupid yes. But stupider was driving out there without enough fuel to turn around. So kinda had to take the risk. Thank the all mighty that we got through. But a Toyota Prado should be able to go through some water without issue.

[@benreid7567]

Funny how a supposedly crap chinese shitbox can wade through 1/2 a metre of water when a premium Japanese off roader cant go through some mud. Sounds like Prado driver could have saved $50,000 and got literally a tonne more payload and 7 more cubic metres of space.

[@Saphire0437]

It can. It's got a 700mm wading depth. You can't legally put that on the ad if it can't do it. It's either a manufacturing defect with that specific individual vehicle, or they've told a porky after doing something dumb with it.

[@Max-jt3ld]

Why generate 48 volts? Am I missing something?

[@theairstig9164]

Mild hybrid runs on 48V

[@jasonfields2793]

Just enough to call it hybrid without having to actually invest anything eeal into it.

[@davidkennedy4845]

Higher voltage enable the use of lighter cables due to lower current draw for the same electrical load. With regard to hybrids: I can't tell you anything worthwhile.

[@warshrike666]

I noticed in the comments questions like "While we are at the “bogan Siri” development, can someone explain why we need a scan tool in cars today? I mean, we have a computer screen the size of an iMax theatre on the dash so why doesn’t it tell us every diagnostic a scan tool can do?" I can answer that 1 way, my 1983 EX Falcon Manual told me how to set the timing among many other things. My 2022 Kia Stinger Manual has a warning label across the front telling me not to drink the fluid out of the battery. Seeing as how 3/4 of Australia's population has been brain washed into buying these absolute POS's (I include ALL 4wd's in that). After working for a mechanic for 20 years and seeing the cost of tyres maintenance and all the bullshit that goes into a 4bee you have to be insane to own 1 period. Now i know all cars have issues but ffs stop buying this crap and subjecting the rest of us to having to deal wiith the moron haulers on the roads. Cant do a speed limit, cant park, or its a P plater who thinks they are Micheal Schumacher in a Fing truck. Enough is enough, i have 0 problem with tradies or rural people who actually need these vehicles. That is not who buys them tho is it? Be honest you know who i am talking about you see them on the roads everyday. 4wd's in Australia need to be restricted bigtime.

[@danieloneill4356]

Use the doll to show where other people's vehicle choices hurt you.

[@warshrike666]

@@danieloneill4356 After having to deal with them almost everyday for 20 years mate u will need 1 Fing big doll. Obviously you own 1 of said vehicles and are not a Tradie or Farmer who actually has a reason to own 1. Did i hit a little to close to the mark perhaps. roflmfao :)

[@kennethprocak5176]

Toyota was sent to the wall in early 2000’s in US because they were crap, and they avoided fixing or recognition of said crap, for years. It’s like the resent DPF, turbos, injector, shit show in Australia. If you keep buying a narrow range of vehicals from only one or two makers you don’t know what’s really around.

[@Saphire0437]

Dpf dramas happened to a lot of manufacturers. I must have missed the turbo/injectors debacle though, had a 5L, a 1KD and 1GD, the first 2 to over 300,000kms, the 1GD currently at 175,000km. Did my vehicles miss the memo about the problems they were supposed to be having? Never had a DPF drama either just as a side note.

[@GregMcCall]

'Oh, not a feeling'. And while I like my 2019 Prodo vx, my doubts of picking a Prado next time are looking doubtful

[@davidnobular9220]

Soooo....no doubts then ?

[@Saphire0437]

I wouldn't put too much stock in old john here. He delivers this kind of 'news' with far too much glee to be taken seriously. Probably find this is the only car it happens to and that they've hit the water at 60kph. Not worth worrying about. It's the same engine that's been around for 10 years now.

[@markmcgrath9098]

Wonder how much they paid Lego for the design? Lego missed a golden opportunity, they should have had Lego kits available for sale at Christmas this year for the aspirational buyers.

[@andreileonov2921]

Dear John. I have a question. Is it possible to to add a water (HHO) generator/water cell to a conventional internal combustion engine as an ADD ON in order to save on gasoline. Not to completely replace gasoline. But to lean out gas supply by 10% and to substitute the 10 % by HHO produced O2 and Hydrogen. Very respectfully, Andrei from Murica.

[@walking_in_the_shade]

Is the Prado electric? Did it catch fire? Does it have piss poor range? Do the tyres wear out quickly?

[@nedV33]

Sweet vid! Merry Christmas.

[@rellett1]

Maybe its still a 12v alternator, but they have a dc to dc convertor to bring the volts to 48 and maybe they are using the air box to cool it, thats the only way i could see the airbox causing the issues

[@lorenzotalarico8630]

John, you should be doing stand up comedy!! You really a wast of talent 🎙️🎤😂 and your auto advice platform is A1 no bullshit quality, thanks for the honesty buddy !!

[@robertthomas3777]

Family down on the farm got their Landcruiser with 60000k on the clock bogged. Needed a tractor to extract it from the paddock. Would only function in limp mode. Local mechanic couldn’t fix it. Sent to Albany (W.A.), Toyota dealership couldn’t diagnose or fix. Trucked to Perth. Fixed. All sensors full of sticks, mud, sad…etc. $5000+.

[@gasgaslex_photos]

But it never rains here in Albany 😅

[@kenpickett9317]

It’s clearly designed for driving up hills and mountains and not through water. It’s in the name dude! 😂

[@marklittle3551]

48v means it has hybrid assistance?

[@AutoExpertJC]

Mild hybrid. Basically, a joke.

[@Alex-tu9bh]

The weight of the system probably kills half the benefit

[@RodneyW]

@@Alex-tu9bh The 48V systems enable the engine stop-start system to be more assertive in the ADR / WLTP fuel consumption and emissions tests (urban cycle). This can make the lab test fuel consumption and emissions a fair bit lower - the latter of which is important in the context of NVES. The fact that it is pretty much pointless in the real world is irrelevant when you have regulations to deal with!

[@dalejustins7117]

Reminds me when Wheels mag rolled a Kluger in car of the year testing back in the day. Standard test all the other cars passed yet the Toyota decided to tip over. Will be interesting to see Toyota’s response to this one.

[@robd2096]

As soon as I read about the 48V electric assistance on the front drive I thought, shit how long is that crap going to last, what a stupid idea. And here we are. When I look at the new 250 "Son of Prado" all I see is that crap FJ Cruiser with the round bits ground into a square shape. It's got "loser" written all over it, and Toyota says "Trust me"???? Like hell!

[@johnmeuwese9850]

Wbat does the 48v system charge johnno???

[@AutoExpertJC]

It's a kind of fake 'mild' hybrid system where the alternator doubles up as the starter motor. So, overwhelmingly useless.

[@johnmeuwese9850]

@@AutoExpertJC Cheers for that M8. Im a retired Auto spark n was thinking WTF?? lol

[@markbeazley3853]

Can't even escape the noise of cicadas watching a john cadogan video 🤣

[@leonardfleming723]

"all the neighbours know about his peach problem"...😂

[@patriot388]

It's much better than the Shark EV crap! 😂

[@brettrogers8482]

Love your work John, that was very funny, too. Not sure you haven't missed your calling as a comedian mate. Kudos to Mr Tor also.

[@RoyBlake-m5o]

Have had a35 year old ford maverick carby model for 18 years now only mod electronic ignition regular oil changes , the basic maintenance stuff I can do myself and it will still go anywhere these electronic disasters will go and no dust in the system,royb

[@TimDousset]

A long shot, but is there any chance they are using filtered air to directly cool some of 48v system or the motor/generator? Chances are they are just flat out lying though.

[@davidforbes6250]

They been taking taking advice from Land Rover for many years if you hadn't noticed.

[@Mambey]

Filter for cooling fan for the battery amd stuff?

[@sa2591-p5d]

What a great idea… a 48v system 🤔 Same power same torque as the old one double the complexity and that 3rd row seat.

[@Saphire0437]

It's not double the complexity 🫢 it's just a large alternator with a battery. Jesus christ

[@paulargent1003]

Motoring journalism has dropped off since the cross dressing Peter Whereisit retired .

[@ajstevens1652]

Can't work out what's worse. That once venerable Toyota, brand new, can't survive even a car review, or that people pay luxury car money for these thinking they have ultimate reliability.

[@markusurschel1086]

This is one of your best videos does the hybrid really make that much of a difference how many kms would i have to do to make the hybrid pay for its self