How a TALON SUPPORT got GRANDMASTER

[@HappyChimeNoises]

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[@unknownlongforgottenpaths]

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[@Hizsoo]

I want this in a Gangplank video. - Eat power!

[@dodo2982]

Do they ship internationally?

[@williambalk1189]

hee is it possible mordekaiser support?

[@HappyChimeNoises]

First video after the Durability Changes! So please remember - We are currently playing in Preseason pretty much. Every single champion has changed and also likely - every single champion will be buffed/nerfed again in the next couple of patches. The game is going to be VERY random for a while so give the pick a try(In normals first) and have fun! But talons new winrate does look quite promising!

[@DJ_RH]

I should first time it in Ranked.

[@julym.2564]

Too late already locked in Talon *In ranked*

[@mattheww6617]

I remember these good old times when assassin actually worked and were sometimes actually fun to play despite their low durability, but that's all now gone and ain't coming back.

[@JotaG3467]

Hey, there is a player playing full ap ivern top in Brazil and he got grandmaster, i've found his playstyle very interesting, his name is "IVERN LINDO BR"

[@NELTIofficial]

@@julym.2564 Comedy King 🤣

[@Veasher]

'Death is the strongest CC' - This Talon, probably

[@emircanball4994]

Philosophic. nice comment.

[@AkshansYoutubeAccount]

no :)

[@inglesfluente2693]

9:50 just a correction: the bleed damage does NOT reset, it's the passive's STACKS that does.

[@eyjay1508]

I'm confused, the stacks just start re-stackingno? What is resetting?

[@savobrankovic3790]

@@eyjay1508 stacks are not reseting.their expiration time is just refreshed so you can do aa stay in a fight and then put more stacks when cd allows it.

[@hasanic.k3224]

I feel the "Dont's" of whatever pick is being showcased could be helpful for people who want to pickup whatever pick is being showcased. While seeing the optimal playstyle is ideal, I believe learning from mistakes is important.

[@Frostfrau]

If you want to make bot lane even more hell try to play it with a ADC that can cc or someone who can roam with you. I played a lot of Veigar, Talon bot and 1 cage means death, pretty funny. You could also go adc with Pyke support and just kill the entire map together

[@exavier5616]

@Poor Quality Gameplay no pyke was always meant to be a support they just want to keep him there with a thousand locks and chains

[@ItsJustKaya]

I like how still a big percentage can't believe that you can play LoL however you want. Like. Sure pyke is assassin but no fk exept community holds you from doing so (you fks). It's really more fun for to play supp with a unusual support, hence why lot of supports cherished for bard, senna and pyke

[@AzuraeJades]

@@ItsJustKaya Yet there's always this guy telling you you're a troll, he's going 0/10 with his Irelia mid (which was actually an exotic pick before pro players started to play it mid), telling you your pick lost the game alone while he is the only one losing his 1v1 mid. Nice community.

[@Ardkun00]

I played senna + talon. It was fun.

[@Ardkun00]

@@ItsJustKaya That's because whenever someone does it and becomes popular Riot nerfs it. We miss you adc kennen.

[@Alex18799]

This pick is amazing, i have played 4 games (1 as adc) and have gone 10/1/10, 12/9/17, 18/2/7, and 11/11/22. It feels so good even with the durability changes.

[@karenwang313]

I started playing it as a joke like half a year ago, but then it worked every time so I kept playing it lmfao. Same thing with warwick support.

[@Kilorelv]

I used to play all assassins as support with the idea of the best CC being death

[@tjerkglas7683]

honestly 12:03 is actually so true, the balance team is doing their best to balance to a certain extend, but you can't balance something unbalanceable

[@jessehickey3918]

Maybe they would be able to balance it if Riot quit adding new champions, 160 is enough!

[@raysr6112]

Being one of the most aggressive support player in the world and an old Talon main the idea of playing him support drives me crazy.

[@uglyheadass1459]

Sure kid

[@_knighted]

So THIS is why I had a first time Talon support in my ranked game earlier today

[@voguexperimental]

😂😂😂

[@SleepySanOwO]

im definitely not doing that rn

[@HanstheBoss1]

yeah its me the one with the 11/10 KDA Ratio and the highest damage dealer in the game

[@andrebernacchi]

Great video as always Chime! Suggestion: when making a video abot a botlane champion, ask the player which others champions are good to pair it on bot or to better achive the picks goals

[@yudoball]

Good idea

[@derpr00]

agreed!

[@bpaintx2]

Yeah, don't pick it into anyone ranged. You just get hammered. And makes the suggested keystone here absolutely useless.

[@luongthanh105]

Talon is self reliant champion, his job is permanently roaming. So he goes with jihn, ziggs and tristana.

[@manjotsingh-mx9pk]

yesterday i had a senna/talon(sup) botlane and they both went 4/13 and constantly chatting and pinging each other. Thank You!

[@HappyChimeNoises]

They lost on senna, most broken highest winrate pick in the game. I think it's player issue

[@yuuviamvs2440]

What people see : TALON support WHAT i see : Bard 2.0

[@bananabread1231]

BROOOO I CANT BELIVE IT, one of my top 5 support picks is talon. I feel like I live in a simulation. Happychimenoises is a wizard.

[@khanhnguyenbao5962]

recently i've been working on assasin sp with early roaming like twitch talon or qiana, and all worked! Also pretty fun to confuse the enemy

[@derechteeckenkevin7912]

I played Talon sup before this Video and i think he can read our minds

[@webaazul2500]

@@khanhnguyenbao5962 Qiyana supp doesn't sound troll at all, cc, high damage even when behind and good ganks if done properly

[@visigoth3696]

@@webaazul2500 I played that when she first came out, it was good but she got nerfed and the durability patch made it worse for her, so I stopped that and moved to Poppy support

[@agustinmartinez9084]

If you are in melee range, remember Talon's Q reset you AA, so for the combo you can AA-Q-AA for more damage

[@angeljoelfernandezcalleja2012]

and at melee range q does crit dmg so its even more dmg!

[@vsauce1066]

@@angeljoelfernandezcalleja2012 thats why prowlers is meta on talon

[@austinharvey9116]

After watching this video, I feel like ekkk support would be really strong.

[@DeVeDeTheRapper]

this genuinely makes sense

[@Miraihi]

"This is a whole new style of supporting - getting kills by yourself".

[@johnpauljonesisabadass8134]

So it's basically an anti-carry playstyle. Carrying by not allowing the enemy to carry, but he's a support

[@charalargenumber8327]

as an otp talon I played talon supp a couple times due to not knowing how to play other champs, but I didn't realise someone actually made it work in challenger.

[@Azurade]

Death is the most powerful CC

[@xenobolt3459]

Talon support... now this... does put a smile on my face

[@callmeshifu4114]

funny, i actually got into a game with a talon support last week in low elo as an adc he was actually pretty good (wasn't at all because our opponents had no idea what to do against him)

[@elodcsapo592]

Diana support have many similarities with this one, so this type of supp isnt new for me (and yes, it s working)

[@karenwang313]

I've been playing talon support for a long time but every time I do, get a ton of kills, carry pretty hard, and end up losing because top lane fed yet again xD

[@recmonika9751]

3:31 as a akali support player , more people need to play asasins support

[@karenwang313]

As an akali support player myself, I would like the secret to stay hidden xD

[@6six692]

Recently I've picked up Kayn support and this video has been useful to say the least :D

[@TheFenniel]

Love the clip from MIS when talking about vision control lol

[@MrLucajorgensen]

Ahahah, all the trolling i did with my friends with Talon support. Now it's time to master the ways of Talon and play him support right Btw: 9:47. Talon can't reset his bleed proc, it's his stack duration it resets.

[@CurseSasukeLui]

He said TaLoan as in WaterMeloan

[@d.l.ivison6482]

TD;LR: Serrated Dirk is OP

[@thegoldexperience8340]

Thank you for this video Mr. Chimes. Now I'm ready to int my way into Iron Realms

[@TC127_]

3:53 ah yes the forbidden talon+irelia bot lane

[@longanimal1239]

I'm a pyke otp that tried this a few weeks ago. Time to give it a retry

[@mgtow346]

Valoran Tales had a comic strip about Talon supporting a Vayne back in 2012

[@yateslough8178]

Happy to hear about a talon that's not perma-mid laning against me

[@MR0KITTY]

7:44 That's the clip you use for Leona? Nice.

[@SiMeGamer]

12:03 "Champion design team that are terrible and don't know how to do their job." "They are the ones who add the champions with ten different passives and it's just unbalanceable." You have no idea how balance works and why making MORE passives actually makes balance EASIER because there are literally more levers to play with unlike simple champions that are stat-check machines which require incredibly precise number tuning. Old Dr. Mundo is a good example. They added more complexity to his reworked kit and it makes him easier to balance because you can buff and nerf from many different angles without breaking the character too far even if the balance on any particular lever is over tuned. If you buff his regen during the ult too much, for example, it won't be as bad since part of the power budget on the ult is the health he loses on the initial cast, making it balance against itself which ultimately makes these types of changes smaller than they seem in isolation. For this reason Akshan is one of the easiest champions to balance because he has the most levers. Also, who are you to say the design team is bad? Are you a designer? Do you have any design experience? Can you make any objective claim on how the design team is lacking in knowledge on how to do their job? Who the fk are you outside of a League of Legends KZbin commentator (that's all I know you for)? I hate how people dunk on the balance team but for once I was happy someone is defending them but suddenly you made this ugly non-argument about the design team completely unprompted (it has nothing to do with the video - it gave me whiplash when you said that). You do great videos, but these types of comments are not only fallacious but completely unnecessary. You are not a designer (as far as I know), you do not make any substantial arguments about design (never heard you make any) and you are talking down to industry professionals for no reason. Please stick to making these cool videos and abstaining from this pointless ridicule. Talon support looks really fking cool 👍 EDIT: added timestamp

[@nullifiedblank]

Second paragraph is unnecessary, you don't have to be an singer to know when someone is singing badly. Everything else you said still holds value.

[@mistywww3199]

okay bro how much is riot paying you?

[@SiMeGamer]

@@nullifiedblank I think it does apply, because unlike singing, you can't always feel bad design. In the case of League, Akali being immune to towers in her shroud always felt terrible, so they removed that mechanic. It was something that felt really strongly by everyone. It was egregious. But as a general rule, if you add a 3-hit passive to Akshan or remove it, there is no feeling there. It's completely arbitrary. The argument people say is "overloaded" without defining the term or even setting an arbitrary standard. Being a designer of a champion is similar to being an engineer I think rather than an artist. You have to be an engineer to know if a bridge is built horribly. With game design, you need to be a designer or design analyst of some sort in order to make any viable case against a design unless it's really, really bad (again, Akali's early rework shroud). Unlike singing where it's all about feeling (sure, there is technique, but outside of long term form, nobody cares about technique as long as it sounds good) design of champions in LoL is more on the engineering side of things as far as I've analyzed the topic. Also it's important to remember that the design team takes a lot of feedback from the balance team. The balance team aggregates statistics and for big changes hands it over to designers to find alternatives which are often really good (adding a second Q charge to Amumu was brilliant for lowering the mmr skew without changing the identity of the champion). And sometimes designers and balancers do weird stuff to test sht out. You can't know if a lever does anything if you don't change it. There is only so much you can test internally without live server numbers. I just find it incredibly hard to listen to people making arguments against industry professionals without any proper argumentation. If Skooch or smth says "this item is broken" but does not provide any argument except the implied "it feels like it", it's pointless commentary but because a lot of people watch these people, they do shape the view of the game for most people who also have no clue how the game works. Most people are not good at League of Legends and most people have never done any analysis before making some argument. When people says "Yone is broken" but when you look at statistics he has been around 49% winrate in all elos for many patches in a row, that argument comes down to people not taking the time to learn how to play and understand the strengths and weaknesses of a champion and just wanting Riot to win games for them. My problem is that these people are not very good at the game, they have no experience in game design or analysis (as far as I know) and people listen to them because they are the ones speaking out and have a platform and nobody seems to give an alternative. When I lose to a champion or have a problem with a particular match for whatever reason, I go into the replay, reread champion abilities, items and runes and do small calculations and suddenly I'm the one who made a mistake in the game and it wasn't just random bs as it felt in the moment. Feelings are valid if they are constant and if there is no other way to analyze them. You can't analyze a song to be good or bad if you metric for it is sounding good which is completely subjective. But game design can be looked at objectively to a large extent (not fully) and you can make a lot of interesting and informed decisions. I've seen plenty on interesting comments about changing certain abilities in the game and maybe these suggestions are good. But maybe they are horrible and only look good on paper prior to some analysis. Riot are doing a hell of a job (in a good way) and when some rando ridicules them, I find it unfair. Sorry for the rant. I just don't think the point in my comment is false because comparing champion design to singing seems unreasonable. Ty for taking the time to read though :]

[@Jehxn]

time to draft lucian jungle and talon support in our games. thank you happychimenoises

[@TannerWombat]

I LOVE HUEL I USE IT ALL THE TIME. YOU GOT MY LIKE AS SOON AS THE AD CAME ON!

[@Goomity]

If I remember Yamikaze also played talon support on multiple occasions when he's autofilled.

[@HanstheBoss1]

for those who main Talon this pick is 9/10

[@imonutiy]

This is recipe for 10 doges in a row and reports )

[@aidang3746]

Just a btw guys if u want the quick w q r aa combo make sure u hit R while in mid air of q for the fastest burst

[@tempestindustries9446]

I love this channel so much, it feels like the reaper of solo queue because everyone says NO CHIME PLEASE NOT MY LANE PLEASE as if this one video shall unleash the floodgates of cringe offmeta into their plat promos as I sit here, laughing as a draft player enjoying the game or at least as close to that as possible while playing this god awful game that none of us can break free from for some god forsaken reason LMAO love the vids chimenoise keep up the great work I truly advocate for letting people do whatever the fuck they want along as they try even if at moment I think as a meta slave and forget the true goals and missions of an offmeta player, you hold our flag high and at the sound of the chime we strike! and then of course go 0-10 and flame the jungle XD (Cries as jungle support main, the 2 lanes with the least love :(

[@finnporter6144]

i cant wait to 1st time this while being 0lp plat, playing w people in promos mauhahah

[@fredriddles1763]

Heroes of the Storm helped me break away from League once and for all, it might help you get out too!

[@DkKombo]

Followed by yuumi top lane latching onto him and providing damage backup lol

[@Definesleep938]

not gonna lie , ive been watching you for a while and all your videos show one thing..... anything is possible in league , you can play anything anywhere and can rank up. :) thank you

[@user-mf8nu5qe5f]

try yuumi jungle

[@Iasgo]

@@user-mf8nu5qe5f Is this a challenge ?

[@hyperacid8801]

Feels like LeBlanc Support strategy. Make yourself the solocarry.

[@crankpatate3303]

Never forget: Death is the strongest CC! hahahaa xD

[@graveplot867]

Tnx for highly quality content .

[@koefkowfkowef]

cant wait to see talon sup in my comp games

[@emilystalk9438]

wow great video happy chime noises keep up the great work king

[@NathanSMS26]

The moral of the story is Talon works anywhere because of course

[@kangaroo8858]

Anyone remember that Singed player whos been doing exacly same thing? He got perma on ip, i hope it will end similiar

[@MrMasterOfDesaster2]

I used to play him support when he had this silence. Good times, won basically every game

[@Josh-99]

I used to do that too, and if you ask me, he needs the silence back with the durability changes. He doesn't need to do more damage; he needs more utility. I miss the days of bruiser Talon.

[@MrMasterOfDesaster2]

@@Josh-99 i played him full damage support. Bursted the carry down, adc got easy kills and then the snowballing began

[@LunarEdge7]

Impossible challenge: Take a shot every time he says the word "kill(s)"

[@its_seraph]

Finally a talon video

[@Maxemilan]

Cool build... I'm wondering about wandering around the whole map just for heartsteel stacks and titanic hydra.... Worth a try

[@alphazero8775]

We present you: 'Bard'.

[@pableitor2009]

Oh shit, I used to play the pre-rework talon as support too, back when he still had his "shunpo" with silence. Jumping on the enemy support to silence them and then go all in on the adc next to them was stupidly broken. My reasoning was "the best CC support is talon, cause there is no better CC than killing the enemy adc"

[@vcrypt8048]

My first talon game was in aram then I bought him cuz I loved it, and got autofilled support so I instalocked talon support

[@youngdami1550]

from all your videos predator tf support is the best one i played like 100 drafts at this point and its really fun and good when you are bored playing casual gameplay

[@CoachNaylorTV]

NICE! Ill have to do this sometime soon. I have mained jungle since season 1 and hit d3 with shaco in season 9, with a few nunu games when i had to pick for comp. This season all i play is support nidalee, taliyah, shen, shaco, kennen, twitch, lee sin, leblanc. Almost to emerald from silver 4 0 LP on one account xd

[@alanorzelenolist6771]

Wow, I liked it, I love Talon, I will have to try it! Wait for me in your ranked games UwU

[@luc.k7736]

A wise man once said, "The best CC is death"

[@teddyzhang3091]

I mean talon stealing kills isn't even that troll, all assasins steal kills and its almost like pyke supp where ur supposed to steal kills

[@katamas832]

12:06 eeeh... the problem is the balance team is equally inept, as they rarely know why a champion struggles in win rate, and just buff some random stuff to try to compensate. Like Xerath only got damage buffs, when his problem all along was his lack of self peel, and now he simply has so much damage it is viable, but it's also pretty unbalanced when there's sufficent peel. Like, I play Xerath a lot, and his damage is *disgusting.* They also go off of winrate, which is quite a deceptive data.

[@kiwiwiwi2804]

Yooooo thats something i played a lot to have fun with my friend

[@javiergomezdelgado3407]

I feel like every single sponsor on this channel is very useful, I don't know if it is because he sells it really good or if it is because he is very selective with his sponsors but either way is impressive I find my self not skipping them, is literally the only channel I don't do that

[@AT-wz7ye]

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[@juliantrasak7230]

Talon support and you steal all the kills? Sounds like fasting Talon to me.

[@izira6351]

As a talon main, I Just Know there was someone out there that played him as a support

[@Maskiii_]

I did sometimes but to be honest he was a coinflip XD

[@chithanhbach1104]

i don't think talon's autos extend the bleed, they only extend the passive stack duration.

[@CarsFer]

Tyvm everytime you upload a video I queue solo Q and enjoy my Free lp cuz enemy team is first timing talon suport

[@acriest8446]

Finally my 1m point talon can get a use

[@Cauinno]

"they called me a madman"

[@nergset]

That's why I had a talon support going 0/11/2 today

[@maggiefix249]

I recently thought of playing him supp, but since my clash team needs a decent midlaner I have to stay there. But maybe I will give it a shot in some normals or flex with my friends

[@remitsu9715]

i love watching These videos! but some of these titles feels so unreal and fake, but in reality non of the titles is fake, but it's so off meta i just have to listen to what this pick really is everytime a new chime video comes out

[@alexandrubobaru]

Take a shot whenever he says "kill" or "kills"

[@nonameowo9418]

7:35 I never knew Xerath are considered as Off meta support

[@zhtt8613]

I played with a jgl shaco support, smite as one forgot the other, dude invaded enemy jgl and was everywhere, basically 2 jglrs and shaco catches enemy jgl during their clear then kills and steals their stuff, altho i did fine in lane cuz i just played extremely safe, but it was kinda boring as an adc, either way its very interesting

[@eryalmario5299]

This looks so fun

[@iko9584]

I'm so mad at this. Like I'm really so mad. Amazed. Incredibly amazed. But still so mad

[@bpaintx2]

I know you showed the runes in here somewhere, but I cannot find them for the life of me.

[@HappyChimeNoises]

End of vid always

[@Danc243]

I remember you had a a video about Samira but I can't find it

[@zlooxzloox1423]

Next vid "How Gragas Adc reached Challenger"

[@HeadRedShot]

i hate that snowballing is stronger now. every single game after the update theres always been one extremely fed person

[@Sony-ny3xx]

I don't really get how this guy says to steal every kill possible, but then says it's ok to die if you kill a carry on the enemy team. If you're the carry on your team then dying could see the enemy team win the fight, depending on how the game is going.

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Well you want to steal kills but you aren't going to get all of them. You just want to get a few kills to get some items to stay even. But you're still a support pick

[@ChikaJihyo]

"the best cc is death"

[@cosmicbrownie2312]

Thanks I hate it lmfao. As someone who hates assassins I can't wait to see this in my game then immediately rush Seekers Armguards as Heimer apc

[@theblueoasis2848]

3:51 sounds like a jgler to me

[@wizirbyman]

i feel like his gameplay is pretty similar to the way bard plays just instead of utility, you have damage

[@HappyChimeNoises]

great comparison

[@rickmaior9556]

Can u make a video about the off meta tier list after the durability changes, and how each pick fits on the new meta?

[@aleksandarlazinica]

You should never thing of any shake as a meal

[@Kuraikari]

Good thing I won't have a support talon first timing in my team. Because I'm support.

[@aeugh8998]

So instead of CC'ing them ingame, he CC'ed them in real life instead

[@tender0828]

So Bard but no group zhonya's ult?

[@sagaalkeeyo5103]

Be playing Talon supp on bronze efter this game KEKW

[@Apocabacca]

And in a single patch this all went away muahahaha xD