How and Why Ahsoka Changed Star Wars Rebels

[@tristanskywalker1998]

I think people are just fixating too much on it. They gave Ahsoka a staff and white robes in the epilogue to make the comparison to Gandalf more obvious to the viewer. It's just clothes.

[@1idd0kun]

The point is, the change of clothes probably means we'll get to see Ahsoka's emotional growth in the show. Whether that means she will get her white robes at the end of the show is anyone's guess, but that's not really important. The emotional journey and character growth is what matters.

[@trombonegamer14]

I think people are too upset by changes, but fixating on clothes is pretty standard stuff for star wars. It's so over the top symbolic, clothes usually mean a lot.

[@random135246]

Nah he’s definitly just changing it around some so that we see the journey

[@Influence_Force_99]

The robes i could get past. The staff though... Not so much. It is a weapon or artifact of some importance.

[@Influence_Force_99]

Plus the clothes would be easier to get past if it were just the clothes. The gear and weapons though. That is not as simple. Ahsoka does not have her Staff from Rebels, Sabine does not have her blasters from Rebels, nor does she have her Lightsaber from Ahsoka in Rebels. Too much is changed and don't believe that is for no reason.

[@NachoTeso]

I'm on your boat, I think Filoni is taking his chance to actually tell how Ahsoka evolved from Grey to White. Not as a matter of power level, just pure character development. Rebels' epilogue inferred that Ahsoka went beyond from what she was, and now we'll discover how.

[@chewy99.]

I think the epilogue and what we saw in Ahsoka are two different things. When Ahsoka first got back together with Sabine, that’s when she first started training her, but then they went apart again and then met and got together once again, which is what we saw in Ahsoka.

[@benjaminfitzgibbon4506]

In short I think that the epilogue is sabines’ account of events whereas what happens in ahsoka is what actually happens

[@beadymore]

I think this is definitely the case and I think the fact that Sabine's mural looks the same in animation and live-action indicates to me, at least, that Rebels is a story being told from Sabine's PoV and through her art.

[@ephesians.6]

Thanks for this! I'm not one that trips out and overthinks these tweaks in the storyline, but this was a refreshing perspective!

[@zephyr835]

Totally with you on this, Alex. At least some of the shots are identical, and Sabine goes to the mural in exactly the same way. It seems like people are overlooking the presentation of the mural itself, too. If the two scenes are at separate points, that means the mural is already in that space, then it's moved forward for the formal dedication on the anniversary of Ezra's sacrifice, then it's moved back again. It's much simpler, and more intuitive, that the ceremony is the first time the mural is publicly viewable. In live action, Sabine doesn't put her helmet on, but that doesn't make these events separate either, and I think the reason (in addition to the brief exchange with Ahsoka) is clear. Sabine still has an arc of her own. Also, she had drawings on board the T-6 because, yes, she'd been on it before. It's okay for the initial, post-Rebels meeting and training to be off-screen. For Ahsoka herself, the idea of her having reverted from the 'White' stage to the 'Gray' doesn't make sense, especially with the Gandalf comparison. And when she presents Sabine with "how to find Ezra", there's no indication from either character that that's happened before. If it _had,_ I don't think Sabine would've shown the interest that she did in the episode.

[@demetrinight5924]

I absolutely agree. When Rebels ended, I don't think anyone knew what would happen to the characters. Dave Filoni gave us an epilog just in case he never got to play out the stories again.

[@axtagran7504]

tbf maybe in Ahsoka Part 2 when she arrives on Lothal to pick up Sabine (after she's cut her hair), off screen her shuttle was escorted by 2 x-wings and Sabine was just chillin on the tower, and that the T-16 shuttle with the 2 x-wings in Part 1 was just a nod So basically, Ahsoka travelled to Lothal twice, but in Ahsoka the 2nd time, which was at the end of Rebels, was left offscreen in Ahsoka Part 2

[@featgorgon3985]

It’s my head canon that the two events are different events but similar, with perhaps the event we got in rebels taking place after this journey they’ve gone on or something and the event in ashoka happening before

[@OEx25]

Nailed all of it. Especially Rosario’s portrayal of Ahsoka. I actually am having a hard time understanding how SO MANY PEOPLE are complaining about it and not understanding why Ahsoka would be like this. It’s a bit disheartening, honestly. Hope this will help people understand.

[@Compucles]

It's like complaining about the voice acting in "Metroid: Other M" all over again. Yes, the dialogue in that game is even worse than the dialogue in the Prequel Trilogy, and some parts of the story are very controversial, but there were always good reasons why Samus's voice acting itself was so emotionless.

[@randomidk8781]

literally, im watching everyone complain and im just like "did those people watch rebels?" like..😭

[@demon-goat]

1:56 and monty python and the holy grail’s black knight

[@rjgoodman4056]

You are the best Star Wars youtuber when it comes to interpreting and analyzing the themes and messages of the series.

[@robcapuano1994]

This is 100% how I interpret it. Dave Filoni wanted to briefly communicate the concept at the end of Rebels, but now gets to tell the whole story. It wouldn't make any sense for her to have been "The White" years ago and then revert. We'll probably see the white robes at some point in the future.

[@ThatForestFreak]

I look at the animated shows as something like a visual representation of someone relating a story - perhaps to a child - while the live-action offerings are the historical realities. Sometimes you make things colorful when relaying a tale to a child, but once the child grows up and sees the historical record, they realize that no major points have changed, just some of the descriptions.

[@Compucles]

That's very possible, especially since the live action mural is done in the artistic style of "Rebels," meaning that "Rebels" itself might actually be an in-universe production where Sabine herself was the art designer. (Meanwhile, they got Ryder Azati to voice himself.)

[@Jedi_Spartan]

Given how much stuff that the previous animated series retconed (often pointlessly), I just view this as harmless creative licence.

[@MunificentSunbeam]

Examples, please?

[@mr.sniffles7268]

​@jamesparkin9267 One example of a retcon that comes to mind is how the clones take orders. In the movies, the clones were "totally obedient, taking any order without question." Order 66 was simply and order that came from the highest authority, they had no reason not to follow it. In the Clone Wars, the clones are far more independent, and question orders all the time. They even needed control chips to force them to turn on their jedi. It's a pretty big change, I would argue with much bigger plot implications than Ahsoka's clothing. For the record, none of this really matters. Personally, I think people should just accept that a fictional universe will not always be internally consistent.

[@MunificentSunbeam]

@@mr.sniffles7268 I can think of a few more too, but I'm unconcerned about them. I like the canon chip story better, bc it makes the clones' story more tragic.

[@Compucles]

@@mr.sniffles7268 That was the case in the "Revenge of the Sith" novelization and some Legends material, but we didn't see enough of the clones' personalities in the actual movies to be able to tell one way or another. As such, the retcon works with the new canon. A better example is how some details of Depa Billaba's death and Caleb Dune's escape were changed unnecessarily even after accounting for how the Bad Batch were retconned into the story. Anyway, I agree that it's only minor artistic license, and the new canon is at least a lot more internally consistent than Legends was. How many ways were the Death Star plans and Shuttle Tyderium stolen again? And those were only the most blatant examples.

[@brandondodge6040]

I feel like the ending of Rebels might still be canon. I think we could see Ahsoka in white robes and her spear with Sabine in her armor overlooking the tower later in this Season.

[@brianjl7477]

Yeah, I don't see why this couldn't be the case. For all we know, the Ahsoka series will end o that same shot, with a white-robed Ahsoka.

[@SonofCradossk9853]

Yeah, it’s probably Sabine visiting Lothal one last time before visiting the new galaxy to find Ezra

[@garbotoxins840]

​@@SonofCradossk9853 that makes a lot of sense

[@Wackaz]

Bro... Brilliant call 🤯

[@mightheal]

Considering the tower is damaged in the epilogue scene Lothal might be attacked during the Ahsoka show to match continuity.

[@SpaceAcex]

Spot on with the Rebels epilogue changes. It’s the same scene. Dave wasn’t sure he would be able to tell the story of her Evolution. I find it funny how folks would prefer to miss out on an awesome arc just so the scenes can match 😂

[@BIGBMH]

I don't think anyone would prefer to miss out on the arc. If we're assuming that these are intended to be the same moment, in the original version, that arc happened before the journey to find Ezra. I believe the majority of people who want the scene to match would've liked to see that Ahsoka evolution arc as its own story, then this arc of the search for Ezra as its follow-up.

[@TownieGirl1974]

Wait, so you're telling me that there are some Star Wars fans that are complaining about Ahsoka not having her staff in the live-action version? *Shocked Pikachu face*

[@PeterBrown-n1e]

I truly appreciate your explanations and summaries of some of my favorite shows like Ahsoka and the whole Star Wars universe. You are clear and concise and not too "cute" even with your dog. Thank you for all your efforts!

[@1874WL]

As soon as I saw the robes were gray and not white I was like "people are gonna be whining about that"

[@Daniel-Strain]

These are not the same events. No changes were made. The epilogue of Rebels was when Sabine FIRST went to train with Ahsoka. The scene that we see in Ahsoka is years later, and she basically met her again in the same way, to symbolize that it is "time to begin again". These are TWO DIFFERENT events, years removed from one another, at least it seems to me.

[@Sam-nw9ls]

Exactly what I thought.

[@asterlyons8564]

I dont think they would have made it so similar if it wasnt supposed to be the same event

[@Daniel-Strain]

@@asterlyons8564 It was similar on purpose. It is meant to show that they are starting over, just as they did before.

[@sackthebastard]

Pretty sure Dave Filoni himself has said it’s the same scene reimagined

[@Daniel-Strain]

@@sackthebastard Thanks, do you know when/where he said this?

[@OldWhitebelly]

I'll say it first...the epilogue for the current season will be another shot-by-shot dupe of the scene, after the events of the series in which Ahsoka confronts her role in the past and makes the transformation to the white robes, with Ahsoka again picking up Sabine for more adventures.

[@Stablemable2]

Watch the "fans" ruin another quality Star Wars series. Theyre are just hyper-critical viewers who just cant sit down, watch and enjoy the performances without comparing stuff. Dawson is great as a older mature Ahsoka Tano. Dawson is not teen Ahsoka, which a lot of fans thought was initially annoying anyway.

[@fgdj2000]

I think it's Just telling the same story in different ways: while some of the details are different each time, the core/ gist of it is the same. We've been there already with Caleb Dume surviving order 66 and Ahsoka on Mandalore.

[@larkmacgregor3143]

I thought the scene in the epilogue happened *before* the beginning of Ahsoka, and was a previous attempt to find Ezra - the scene in Ahsoka where Sabine boards Ahsoka's ship and goes into a bunk where her drawings cover the wall seemed to confirm that to me. That and the fact that Ahsoka had taken Sabine on as an apprentice, means that the two of them had to have spent at least a decent amount of time together before the show's current time line. Enough time has passed that Sabine had time to grow out her hair after her return to Lothal and before Ahsoka finds the map. Perhaps her failure with training Sabine also fed her refusal to train Grogu when Din asked her to take him on. Anyway, there doesn't seem to be much of a discrepancy to me. She could have made the mural well before the idea of a formal dedication was thought of, as an expression of her love for her adopted family and the sacrifices they all made.

[@LMK-Gaming]

100% agree with you. Those two scenes are not the same because they're set years apart.

[@sackthebastard]

None of that makes sense from a writing standpoint

[@kirank287]

I agree

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Excellent job on this and wonderful breakdown that helps tell how things are.

[@darthpoopsie4988]

Im not convinced its the same moment. I think its just a mirror of the rebels ending, which will be fully recreated at the end of ahsoka and its them going to do something else

[@SonofCradossk9853]

Yeah, the scene will probably be recreated before Sabine and Ahsoka travel to the new galaxy. Sabine will return to Lothal one last time and reminisce on everything, and then the actual scene is recreated.

[@zephyr835]

If they're doing something else at that point, it would contradict the voiceover from Sabine.

[@notmephisto1375]

Nope.. they are leaving the galaxy after episode 4 or 5 and they probably won't be coming back any time soon.

[@kirank287]

@@SonofCradossk9853Exactly. I hope this it

[@AdairCorbin]

I think the moment in the epilogue is years before the moment in the new show and they are just supposed to echo each other. The moment in epilogue is the first time Sabine and Ahsoka traveled together and had their training and then falling out.

[@filipefreitas5365]

I also had that same reading initially, but the Rebels ending shows the mural that supposedly was being inaugurated during episode 1 of Ahsoka. Now I'm pretty much convinced the scene from the Rebels ending is in fact the moment when Ahsoka goes back to get Sabine after she says that she's ready (Sabine has short hair and full armor), which should happen during episode 3 of Ahsoka, or even off screen between episodes 2 and 3 (we haven't seen ep 3 yet). The only thing "off" might be the color of Ahsoka's robes.

[@xTehOwn]

@@filipefreitas5365 i think the series will narrate how ahsoka became The White. So the Rebels finale is basically a visual summary of those events.

[@notmephisto1375]

It's the same moment, just being retold with some changes.

[@BigBadBernatzki]

Omg, Filoni has stated that it’s the same scene and her white robes at the time were a vision at the time. In the new show he has retconned the scene to show her character has more growth. The epilogue of Rebels was always after Ahsoka’s appearance in the Mandalorian S2…no conspiracy here folks, no need to question or hate on the creators because you don’t get it, just enjoy the ride!

[@notmephisto1375]

Exactly. I know retcons can be annoying, but if it means we get a live action Rebels I'm more than okay with it. It's no different or worse than what Lucas did with the special edition versions of the OT.

[@Im_Ish]

Thank you, Adam. I will never be able to unsee Darth Vader as a Balrog.

[@Wednesday131O]

I feel like the epilogue of Star Wars Rebels and the similar scene in Ahsoka are different scenes altogether. Starting off, I think that the timeline might look like this: Sabine and Ahsoka take off, both for the purpose of finding Ezra and also to train Sabine in the force, somewhere along the way they pick up Huyang from who knows where, and over time Ahsoka and Sabine grow frustrated at the lack of progress and regress back to who they were. Sabine doesn't want to be anything at all, either Mandalorian or force user, and Ahsoka continues to search for the way to Thrawn and Ezra, but it almost becomes an obsession for her. She might report in occasionally as fulcrum, but almost all of her effort is on anything and everything Thrawn related. I like this more because it just feels less "charactery". People go on many journeys in their life, they have highs and lows, hopes and failures, but in the end, things usually work out. And like Huyang implies, sometimes you just need to give things another shot. Not everything happens in one go, but every time you start that journey again, there's a chance things will work out. The Rebels Epilogue was the first attempt, and Ahsoka will be the time when things work out.

[@Advent3546]

3:13 You gotta love those Jedi/Sith parallels

[@timothydavidhill2117]

There is a time difference (that the rebel’s episode epilogue happens 3 or years before ahsoka

[@little-wytch]

thank you for putting this out there so at least some people with see it. I swear, most people have no concept of storytelling or artistic expression these days lol.

[@ddwalker3744]

Ahsoka is prob my fav star wars character

[@T4Eagle137]

I can see them doing the ending to Rebels later on in the series, whether this season or another season where we will see Ahsoka in the white robes and Sabine still with her short hair and armor coming to help Ahsoka.

[@StuartLugsden]

All I want to know is what happened to the cain and why they didn’t include it in the final version.

[@sand_is_greaney]

I really hope the closing shot of the series is that of what we saw in Rebels where Sabine and Ashoka meet on that platform, even if it’s to say goodbye

[@darthvipera4276]

Thank you for this , as someone who was kinda pissed about the change I appreciate the new perspective. Also want to add to the similarities with Gandalf, Ahsoka/Gandalf and Vader/Durin's Bane are very similar in that the former and the later are from the same Order or Race (in LoTR) but the former stayed in service of the light while the latter fell to darkness following their respective universe's ultimate Evil.

[@Realderekwells]

It is so silly to be pissed over different clothes

[@darthvipera4276]

@@Realderekwells No it's not. It felt so pointless to change it and I was pissed off about alot of things in the show so it was just like the final thing. Don't be patronising

[@TheWarmachine375]

Ahsoka does look awesome as Space Gandalf the White with a cool staff.

[@EricZaoniteHerthel]

Filoni changing his own cannon, he really is George Lucas successor

[@camdamelio4334]

I think the Rebels epilogue happens years before the Ahsoka series, I think the epilogue is where Ahsoka and Sabine started their journey together and where Ahsoka first started training Sabine, but then their search turned up fruitless and they both parted ways, setting up the events of the Ahsoka series. Sabine returned to Lothal and let herself go, as did Ahsoka who reverted from white to gray. And this series will be about them returning to the peak they were once both at.

[@xTehOwn]

i think the series will narrate how ahsoka became The White. So the Rebels finale is basically a visual summary of those events.

[@kirank287]

I hope this is it

[@robertwild9447]

The live action stuff is always gonna be the most "canon" to me. Any minor discrepancies between the animated shows like Rebels and the live action stuff i can just say is because Rebels is told from Sabine's perspective, so there might be some minor differences. I feel the same way about the animated shows and the live action material having different voice actors for the characters. Minor changes like that are just easier for me to role with.

[@thegrahamdalorian185]

Anyone else think the robes looked a little gray in Rebels and maybe we're all overthinking this?

[@allykat5899]

I think the Rebels series is told by Sabine and she's telling the story and discribing her master the way she wants to remember her. I think that she will become Ashoka the white at some point in the Ashoka series.

[@joe6640]

My head cannon is that Ahsoka showed up to meet Sabine twice at that mural. The first time we see at the end of Rebels and eventually the two fall apart. Years later, the two reconnect and we get the same thing again at the mural at the end of Ahsoka episode two. I’m not especially bothered about the inconsistencies between the two versions of the same scene but rather how what happened in-between Rebels and Ahsoka has gone largely unexplained. This head cannon smooths things over for me.

[@MsElViktor]

omg they removed her staff, HOW DARE YOU DISNEY ?!?! How dare you remove the reference to LOR ? This is one of the biggest retcon in history of retcons

[@joeiorio9654]

I’m more so just a bit worried that this can open the door for more changes. If we flashback to Ahsoka v Vader, I’m worried Ahsoka won’t wear her Rebels outfit and just use the Mando one

[@VastVessel]

I still hope that the rebels epilouge takes plays after Ahsoka season 1 and we'll see that exact white robe -scene replicated in live action at the end

[@derekmak1781]

If Ahsoka starts a Grey Jedi Order at the end of the show, that would be awesome!

[@Ken-1313]

Well said, agreed 100%

[@arch3ddraftsman]

*chuckles* that scene may be the last scene of the Asoka Season 1...

[@Otaku155]

Why did these changes happen? Why did Ahsoka go off the rails? Why did we not get the real Ahsoka show/movie we wanted? Simple... Dave Feloni started listening to Disney Corporate overlords and stopped listening to the fandom.

[@AndrewLawArt]

Hmmm… do you think Ahsokas views on the jedi order could have influenced Lukes narrative in TLJ

[@SaturnCanuck]

Agreed. Nice analogy

[@kirank287]

I think they are two separate events. When Ahsoka got back together with Sabine that's when she first started training her, and then they both split. Now years later the two reconnect which is what we see in Ahsoka. This is what I think

[@noahhenson1669]

Well said.

[@jessehowell1972]

These two scenarios are two separate occasions. The one in Rebels is the future. Remember in Ashoka, they are not going after Esra. In the Rebels finale they are specifically going after Esra. So therefore The Rebels finale is the future to come that hasn't happened in The Ashoka Show yet.

[@empireofengland6039]

I love all opinions. Your ,Alex,and the ones who said it was before or even will be after. Will see which one's true.

[@Derek-le4er]

So why is nobody talking about the Rebels ending having the entrance to the painting room being destroyed looking as Sabine exits towards Ahsoka the White? In the Ahsoka show, it's not destroyed. Perhaps Thrawn comes back and half destroys Lothal like he's sending a message to the New Republic and that scene is Ahsoka the white accepting her role as a Jedi and going out to fight Thrawn with Sabine - two totally different scenes.

[@filipciechanski4063]

This! That is literally the first thing that occurred to me!

[@dmormak]

Because animated isn’t hard cannon. Meant to be changed.

[@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922]

I don’t think it’s a retcon or any one scene is more cannon than the other from the beginning of Ashoka it’s learned that she used to train Sabine given that and given that they had a time jump where they had a falling out it’s in my opinion there separate scenes and no one scene retconned the other

[@cernstormrunner7263]

are we sure the Rebels epilogue isnt when Sabine *first* left with Ahsoka as her Padawan? I mean, when Sabine comes aboard Ahsoka's ship, she looks at some lothcat doodles she made on the wall of what i assume was her bunk, so shes been on this ship before. Maybe one of the reasons they broke up is that all the leads to find Ezra dried up.

[@ormapa1206]

Maybe the epilogue happens much later. It could be the ending of Ahoska because I think the white robes while be her finale appearance.

[@illrated]

I think we'll get another scene similiar to the Rebels epilogue in the future. Long shot but its hard to believe Filoni made such differences when both are his baby.

[@valoliveira8750]

I think that people are not understanding that the epilogue and the ending of the second episode are two diferent scenes and not a retcon, the proof is that it is shown on the scene that Sabine goes on the ship to get the map that she already lived there before (She slept on the lower bunk where she looks at her drawings of lotcats and Chopper). I also think they should had make it more clear for the audience to avoid such confusion..

[@Compucles]

Yeah, we already know that Sabine trained with Ahsoka at sometime during the time skip. That still doesn't prove anything about when the "Rebels" epilogue takes place.

[@MD-sy3iw]

To quote an old jedi, here's a certain point of view: What we see in that scene is not Asoka as she is in the moment from our, the viewers' eyes, but rather through Sabine's eyes. We see her as Sabine sees her--in her "true" form or the form she will be that Sabine already recognizes.

[@roachprime]

The way I see it is the scene in Rebels is when Sabine originally started training under Ahsoka. With the scene from Ahsoka being a reference to but not a remake of that scene. Is there confirmation that that is not the case? Because that's what makes sense to me.

[@notmephisto1375]

It's the same moment just retold with some changes.

[@flightlesslord2688]

ooooorrrr.... 2 different occasions. One shes off training, and they ended up not finding Ezra. This is them 'trying again'. Or the Rebels one is more like symbology. The art style after all is the art-style of the mural. So I picture it as an interpretation of future events/the mental interpretation of Sabine.

[@fredrico665]

Ahoska has been Gandalf the grey since ending of Clone Wars and is just now going trough a rebirth as Ahsoka the white.

[@michaeldemocko443]

Or... the ending of Rebels was when Ahsoka took on Sabine as an apprentice, and the live action scene took place years later when they both agreed it was time to complete their mission.

[@baradmemarkermani2184]

I think that ending of the rebels is when ahsoka comes and train sabin , and it's different from what we saw in ahsoka

[@Spacemonkeynz]

I thought it was obvious that these two scenes were separated scenes years apart. The the end of rebels, Sebine is about to start her training with Ahsoka.

[@scorch9072]

Okay thats nice and all but what if the rebels epilogue was before the point where the series takes off ? Would fill the gap of when she trained sabine and leave room for what ever happend that made them part ways.

[@kylehicks9018]

Yeah, that's nice but what about the staff? It seemed to have some significance other than showing us that she's older.

[@nasser5585]

Very good video.

[@pablosirius5]

I dont think both are the same moment.... I feel the original Rebels ending was the 1st time Ahsoka started training Sabine and looking for Ezra... but since she "failed" that's why she is no longer white and now they are going to try again and therefore how similar they both are, but she is no longer the white, now grey but eventually once they save Ezra she will use the white again

[@samsantanamusic]

I second this!

[@jetryder]

Third@@samsantanamusic

[@kirank287]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@barbwyer5322]

is there anything interesting in discovering that ashoka the white fell backwards to ashoka the grey?

[@Aquarica]

You know , I suppose that makes sense, I honestly didn't think that there was a retcon going on To me it seemed like the end of rebels happened, Ahsoka met with Sabine, they had a falling out, and this is even further down the timeline then what was shown at the end of Rebels, and I was just curious where Hera's kid was I'm fine with it either way, just hope it doesn't get too confusing

[@TueSorensen]

Maybe all Jedi are Grey Jedi now. Daisy (sorry Rey) was Grey (her very name pointed that fact out), even Luke had turned Grey in the Disney sequels.

[@joemanyliberalsalt]

Episode 1 showed Sabine’s drawings on Ahsoka’s ship in the bunks. I think these two events are different, that they tried looking before, stopped, and now it’s time to start again.

[@dylanderyckere8077]

look in the background in both scenes theyre diff

[@TransamJc]

Well said

[@raider_reaper_4194]

I think the ending of rebels scene will be the LAST episode of Ahsoka.

[@ddwalker3744]

Ahsoka takes place AFTER rebels

[@raider_reaper_4194]

@ddwalker3744 that scene with white robed Ahsoka will be the Last episode of the Ahsoka show is what I meant

[@Blinkptx]

​@raider_reaper_4194 That wouldn't make any sense. They were leaving to find Ezra at the end of Rebels...That's what they were doing at the end of episode 2. It's the same scene with different details. It's ok.

[@raider_reaper_4194]

@Blinkptx they will still be looking by the end

[@Cboz1978]

What about the name "Rogue Jedi"?

[@vickelibert5637]

i see people forget this... sabine is almost double her age she was when we first met her. shes now about 30 we meet her age 16 or 17 dont remember exactly

[@slimshady4307]

I’m confused. I thought Ahsoka in white went to get Sabine to train. Then somehow they split up Sabine goes back to Lothal and the scene in the live action show happens after the scene in the epilogue…

[@faxisthefox]

I think these are two different shots - one before and one after. Reintroducing the same scene at different times. Perhaps the staff and robes are something that will come at a later time - grey -> white robes.. or it could just be nothing

[@billyhenson2906]

I dont understand the complaint of Ahsoka being stoic or somber.. she is still continually using the force. She has now seen what happens to a jedi that uses their emotions.. all the claims by the jedi order that emotions will lead to the dark side are now validated. She realized after fighting vader that she needed to keep her emotions in check as she became more powerful in the force.. she is acting like a jedi knight. Reserved.. lacking the showing of emotion.. it makes perfect since to me . If she gave up being a force user then i could see her still having her old personality but she is basically a jedi knight .. possibly master.. in all aspects but title. Even if she doesnt claim to be (even though hara called her a jedi and she never disputed it like previously)

[@czesctojamati3686]

Nice video

[@LadWithNoDad]

I bet a bucket of chicken that they will show this scene with Ahsoka in white robes with the staff again shot for shot, and it will be a reference to the one in the second episode, she will become Gandalf the white

[@ChiefHarris]

I was under the impression these were two different instances

[@MCLegoboy]

I've been critical of how Ahsoka has been acting ever since she debuted in Live Action though, it's not just because she isn't acting like she did in Clone Wars, she doesn't even act like she did in Rebels either! You're telling me that someone who is willing to let the Inquisitors live after they try to kidnap children and are willing to kill their rescuers and anyone else that stands in their way will then go on to slaughter an entire army of Morgan Elsbeth's footsoldiers holding a town hostage for its resources is just part of a journey? No, that's regression. Or at least it is some kind of aftereffect from going into the underworld of Malachor because she is smirking as she takes those guys out, when she was actively meditating before stopping the Inquisitors from striking her down. She's willing to fight Vader, but it's to assist Ezra and Kanan's mission, and then also to face her own fears and grow beyond them, and then she helps keep Ezra from endangering himself again and even quite possibly breaking the universe in the World Between Worlds. She's better than whatever it is that's going on with her in Live Action. Did she still have things to work through in Rebels? Yes, she struggles with the Jedi Temple, she keeps going off to do other things by herself, but when she is present, you can see that she has evolved into what a Jedi is supposed to be, even so far as to letting her enemies live despite how heinous their actions may be (well, maybe not Vader, she wanted to avenge Anakin's death, or at least die trying, which is still noble considering what Vader is capable of compared to his underlings). In Live Action, she's both for the rules and against the rules. She's impatient and gave up on Sabine, decided she was not right for Grogu, but also won't allow Din to "break the rules" either when he goes to visit Luke's academy despite the fact that she breaks from conventional Jedi protocol to achieve her goals, too. She's also violent towards people, almost gleefully so, and that's not very Jedi-like either. I'm not saying she's a saint, sometimes you still gotta do what you gotta do, she's killed before (a great example from Clone Wars is on Carlac where she slits four Mandalorians' throats in one move), but her entire persona is all out of whack from when we even saw her in Rebels. I believe those trading cards of Ahsoka descending those steps into the pool on Malachor are considered Canon, only Dave really knows exactly what's happening there, but it only makes sense to me that something happened to her because this is not how Ahsoka should or would act otherwise. Where as before it was some kind of baptisms and rebirthing into becoming Ahsoka the White, now I see it as some kind of Dark Side possession since it was on a Sith world, and she needs to be cleansed of it by some other means. In Rebels, she was a bit more reserved, perhaps even melancholic, but still sympathetic to the plight of others as she was acting as Fulcrum and providing Rebel cells with missions to help the Galaxy, but in Live Action, even though the Empire is defeated for the most part and she's still working to help others, there's a darkness that wasn't present before, and it's suspicious.

[@josermaiz]

I think this the second time that we got the epilogue

[@HipRapBlack7]

It's clothes people.. Clothes

[@jkwatcher47]

I'm totally ok from going white to grey, I do wish they had kept the staff.

[@kenji6492]

Your reminder to NEVER skip the strike disclaimer

[@tamashorvath224]

Is it confirmed to be the same scene?

[@mikemcdevitt9570]

Why assume these two similar scenes are depicting the same moment in time? The animated version might have been just after the Battle of Endor or even the Battle of Jakku. Sabine has a different speeder bike, she's flanked by Loth Wolves, and her mural is in a room surrounded by rubble, as if from heavy construction or a battle. Unless during this series Ahsoka tells us flat out "I've never owned a staff or worn white robes" or more likely "We've never tried to find Ezra before." I'm going to cling to the literal images and imagine they tried to find him at least once before and it didn't pan out. Maybe all they managed to achieve last time was to find Huyang and lose the staff.

[@mikemcdevitt9570]

Maybe last time they tried this they found a big chunk of the Chimera somewhere and decided Ezra and Thrawn were most likely disintegrated or whatever usually happens if you have no transparisteel between you and the blue hyperspace tunnel.

[@notmephisto1375]

You're making up head canon when the answer is simply Dave made some changes.

[@Ratmandu82]

I just assumed these were two different scenes.

[@kirank287]

Same

[@Victini0510]

What if the Rebels intro is the series finale?

[@lore_likes_dark2508]

I wonder if meeting Luke will take part in he journey to becoming a Jedi yet again. Adding furthermore to return of the Jedi