How Are MTB Saddles Developed And Designed? | Inside Ergon HQ

[@gmbntech]

Have you found your perfect saddle or are you still trying out different shapes and styles?

[@bobbyhempel1513]

Still looking, getting expensive.

[@palioman]

Yes, after many I got ergon. Super happy! Good job our German brothers! 🤟

[@DerrenWeekes]

went thru many - found a WTB Koda fits me well (in wide fit) - also has the advantage of being quite cheap!

[@allenjanes5976]

I'm ok for about two hours on any saddle. But 3 to 4 hour cross country races are brutal. Only ones that don't hurt are the wider gel saddles. It's ridiculous how wide and heavy it is.

[@jamess3417]

My fucking ass hurts

[@Whitehawkvisionfilms]

This video was VERY helpful. (I have loved Ergon's grips FYI on all my bikes) I have been in Saddle-Hell for sometime and realize I have probably been sitting too far back on my saddles. This video taught me about Ergon's R&D, but also about where my sit bones belong on the saddle which is something no one else on planet earth seems to explain clearly. Thanks GBMN Tech and Ergon!

[@Allison_Burgers69]

I am a Industrial Design student wish me luck to achieve my dream job which is to design the future mtb or components. ❤️❤️❤️

[@awesometuscaloosa7203]

Anonymous Ph so cool mate! Cheers!

[@gmbntech]

That's awesome! Best of luck we hope you get it! 🤘👊

[@PinkPanther1402]

Where mate?

[@lauritsziersen3458]

Good luck

[@alanharpdesign]

Good luck in your Industrial Design future! As a fellow Industrial Designer (furniture design) I've just giddy hearing the phrase Industrial Design so many times in one video!

[@nickcarolan2805]

I use similar equipment for pressure tests in my lab. Glad to see Ergon use it another way. I now realise I can work for R&D in the bike industry. 👍👍

[@Flux_Flow]

Finally ! Seems to be one of the least talked about subjects and yet it's one of the most important. If you are not comfortable on your bike then it can be a serious turnoff.

[@the_spanner_ch7mp]

Wow amazing how much goes into making a seat , i've been looking at getting an Ergon seat for awhile now and this has put a new light onto what goes into their saddles Great video Doddy and #GMBNTech

[@maning005]

I salute you guys for not throwing butt jokes during the discussion..

[@mexicanmoustache8180]

Kapatid!

[@underbikedoverconfident1142]

Butt there's room in the comments!

[@scottibass]

I can get behind this comment

[@alcaholic640]

Butt out

[@alcaholic640]

I think they did make jokes butt they edited them out

[@evo1007]

Amazing to see what goes into these saddles. Just recently bought an Ergon saddle and I have to admit it's the best saddle I've ever ridden. After watching this I now know why. Great job Doddy.

[@curtisf.r6233]

Pretty interesting how much goes into saddle production. Definatley ordering an ergon saddle now. Thanks Doddy! 💯👍😎

[@massoud999]

Cool. I use several Ergon products on a daily base for long rides including an e-bike saddle. They are great. 🚲

[@Marc28031984]

A good fitting saddle is very important! A few years ago my....family jewels and the part above always gone numb when I rode for 2 hours or more. 😅 I didn’t knew what that meant and thought there was something wrong with my body.🤷🏼‍♂️ But now I know that this is the first sign you’re riding the wrong saddle or riding it in the wrong position.

[@thecheshirecat5564]

Before this video I was asking myself why the heck their saddles are so expensive. Now I'm asking myself how the heck do they manage for so little. Thanks guys, that was very interesting.

[@briw4647]

I have just purchased a ergon smc gel saddle. Iver the years, my saddle type seems to have changed. Now my old saddle feels like I'm sitting on a 2x4 while it used to be comfortable

[@kevinbowe]

Woh! Are you guys mind-readers? I've been thinking about my tubeless-tires, eyewear, and my saddle. Lo and behold, THREE stories about those subjects. Awesome programming fells. What am I thinking about now? Cheers...

[@carlstanton2550]

Next video is about critical beer choice for after ride hydration.

[@Montblanc1986]

The humidity testing is great, alot of materials can swell and shrink in the extreme humidity. Vietnam war really made product testing a thing as stuff worked fine on a nice day but not in the jungle

[@lukeholmes2153]

Really interesting insight into a part of your bike which many people would not put much thought into👍another great and unique video

[@BIGBORE375HH]

Great video. I ride Ergon saddles and grips on my two MTB bikes. Would have neat to see something on their grip designs.

[@justjordan8018]

Well hats down, they pulled it off. They are literally selling a Flat saddles, the absence of From, as the best possible form to us. You go Ergon!

[@christill]

My ebike came with Ergon saddle and grips and now I try to get them on any bike. GP1 grips are so comfortable.

[@gekkardboy]

Very interesting. Recently purchased an Ergon SM saddle. Comfortable as all heck fire, now I know why.

[@Emtbtoday]

And there you have looks take priority over comfort! Cad designer said it himself

[@paulsack9563]

That was cool. I didn't know that Ergon was based in Koblenz. Went there to the Canyon factory just earlier this year. Have to visit them the next time I am there.

[@dctruckguy]

I just ordered a 4th saddle for my bike. Like the sr comp even more than my brooks b17

[@gray_wolverine63]

Awesome video. 🇺🇲 🤙🏼

[@MedievalRichard]

Just ordered a new Ergon SMC4 saddle and Ergon GE1 Evo grips for my MTB

[@FMXeXo]

"Go ride it here locally..." *cut to footage out of saddle, seat dropped* Those testers just went on a paid lunch ride didn't they?? My kind of job!

[@Braench]

We went for the ride after work (Filming) and it was 42 degree Celcius in Germany that day..It is an awesome Job tho ;)

[@scottw6598]

Great video, more!

[@MilatovichFamily]

I have ergon sme3 comp and i just love it!

[@ToddFarrell]

I did my PhD in Robotics and this reminds me of all the similar testing we did for Robotic Ankles for research (mostly inside the socket for amputees). Pressure pads (like the one they used on the saddle for Doddy) are very flexible and fairly accurate, so you can use it on any numbers of surfaces. Do they use the same methodology for their grips as well (pressure mapping)? Also, I REALLY want to know where the Product Designer got that duck shirt; looks like a very high-quality shirt and love the logo!

[@lepansongs]

you can find the duck t-shirt at Edmmond Studios ;)

[@chriss6551]

Nice article thanks. I see that there was a hint of a saddle mounted mudguard around 6:53. Are these something that are available now or are they something to look out for in the near future? I for one would be very interested in finding out more about them.

[@fairtomiddling]

ISM especially the PM 2... although I do get comments about the old nackered ISM Typhoon I've got on the jump bike. seat grab with a noseless saddle 🤔😄

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

I realised recently, that times has changed to the point, it's most often difficult to find a RELIABLE saddle that is comfortable, so once you fall in love with it, it won't appear that you have a quarterly-subscription-saddle. This video makes me think I should increase the budget even more, but it's soooo hard when you've experienced so many without finding the right one. And most of them are not available for testing. Although there are return policies in EU-unpack carefully, unlock zip-ties, stick electrical tape onto seatpost/dropper head so it won't scuff the rails and you can make a 50km road test so at least you know if it's not terrible right from the start. But few at once, pick best, return the rest with no trace. That is what bikers are forced to do....sad

[@Dolph681]

Selle Royal saddles have worked great for me and I recommend them, I've Alpine model for the past 5 years, great comfort.

[@deadfenix-b9s]

At a glance that pink saddle in the thumbnail looks like something else

[@TheBassman396]

I got ergon grips by chance not knowing anything about the company I was blown away best grips ever and I have had a lot not I need a saddle

[@beafmilk]

I did bike fittmen in a bike shop because I had knee pain. They sold me Ergon sadlle (ERGON SF MEN S/M) and some Ergon grips. After the bike fitting and new Ergon product on my bike I now have worse knee pain, and I have developed wrist pain. The sadle is the most uncomfortable saddle I have ever used.

[@James-yy4vl]

I don’t suffer with pressure issues too much but chaffing is a huge issue for me, (in the gouch area, sorry I don’t know the anatomical description lol) some shorts make it worse than others but I haven’t found a solution yet. I’ve tried different shorts and liners of all price ranges and fits, going to try chamois cream next. It means I really struggle to ride often as I have to give my skin time to recover or it ends up a real mess down there.

[@Hookythehammer]

Bum butter 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@ca-lt1fc]

I have SM Pro Men Saddle and the material is very rough and grabby not allowing my shorts to move back in forth on the saddle so after a few minutes, the ride becomes very painful. I need to make the seat material smooth and slippery, anyone have any suggestion how I might do this?

[@juliewalls5804]

Wish we could all be measured like you were.....

[@ertai222]

Custom seats for everyone.

[@rupedog]

Wish u could get custom saddles based off a pressure map... aside from breaking in a brookes leather one.

[@notafraidoftherobots]

Check out Reform Saddles, I believe this is exactly what they do

[@anftrew3775]

Excellent and very informative. But how do you find the right saddle? I mean, a cheap saddle starts at around 30 quid, and it's just upward from there for anything decent. And given that a saddle can seem fine for the first few hours before problems start to reveal themselves, so just sitting on a few different bikes in the shop won't prove much, doesn't this mean we either take a gamble and stick with the result, or spend all our money on replacement saddles until we eventually find one that's right?

[@Braench]

Lots of shops offer you to Test a saddle for a few days, so if it doesnt fit and its still in perfect condition they will take it back and give you another one to try until youre happy.

[@jeffreyhdixon]

Dr. Steven Schrader with the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH): “When you sit on a bike the pressure on the perineum increases sevenfold. Riders using a classic saddle place 1/4 of their body weight on the perineum. The amount of oxygen reaching the *** typically falls 70% to 80% in 3 minutes. A guy can have his oxygen levels drop 100% but he doesn’t know it. After half an hour he goes numb. Saddles with splits or holes may make matters worse because they have smaller surface areas, and hence the rider’s weight presses harder on less saddle. The arteries in the perineum run laterally and therefore they come under more pressure when they come into contact with the cutouts’ edges. It is no longer a question of whether or not traditional bike saddles causes ED, but what are you going to do about it?” @t @t

[@andrisvelmeris]

My bright Orange sadle turned White in the sun. Do sadle Manifacturing companies test for that?

[@ReigninMud]

I have the 2019 Giant Reign 2 with a stock saddle it came with. And I think it was designed to cause the most arse pain possible, it's so uncomfortable

[@classydays43]

Big Box saddles are like sitting on the wrong side of a rock. Whoever designed them wanted to see the world burn

[@scottibass]

cool vid but I was disappointed of not seeing the grips

[@lossantoscity3249]

The most comfortable saddle is the most affordable saddle for you as an indiviudal.

[@keshmo12]

Obviously they scan your butt and make a seat. Just like they do with shoes. Lol

[@Windband1]

That was interesting Doddy. When you were using the computer monitor, it looked like your pressure points were more forward and not really in the widest part of the saddle. Did it feel comfortable to you? Maybe you were just more focused on the cute engineer? ; )

[@johnshaw8013]

Ass-thetic test @10:50. Quality!

[@Marvin-lj7ul]

Made in Germany™

[@cup_and_cone]

LOL, no. Designed in Germany.* Made in Asia... in same factory as 90% of all other brands are (Velo).

[@salisburyplain998]

If you want to keep the mrs happy then ISM is the way to go but if your happy pushing rope then crack on lol.

[@randomscene3219]

wow if a rider have big balls will it register also as a contact point? hahaha

[@davidperry7676]

The bones are touching the saddle hard

[@orbitingstar]

comment hey

[@alexc9221]

Nobody: My youtube recommendations: I think you need to know how bike seats are made

[@exodusvelo]

Fizik any day

[@flowbike4487]

your hair dresing look so silly :D

[@rubenconzales9718]

Irritated by advertising

[@rupedog]

How do u think their wages get paid? No adverts, no gmbn.

[@DoomOfConviction]

Ergon grips sadly sucks all becaus they havnt metal on the outside. One bike drop and the grip stays damaged and ugly forever. I realy cant see how you can build such a grip becaus you dont even need to drop, just dont use a stand on your bike (becaus its freaking ugly and heavy), lay the bike down on gravel and its over with the grips...

[@4000012528]

Can I get a free ergon saddle? 😄

[@leenevin8451]

Mtb riders are weird and love hard seats

[@Windband1]

LOL, no way! Have you seen what the pro road racers use? They're like wooden boards! ; )

[@coolcycles]

Seems they measure a lot, but don't know what the right measure actually is.

[@gmbntech]

Every saddle company has many shapes and widths to suit different riders. Everyone has different width Ischial Tuberosity/ "Sit Bones" and also contact the saddle in a different angle/ place. This is why it's important to find a saddle that fits you and your bike set up.

[@bobbyhempel1513]

There is no one "right measure" for everyone.

[@Marc28031984]

Your local bike store should have a seat that measures your bone width.

[@carltonbirds]

Sorry but I don’t like this, therefore I will have to give you a thumbs down.

[@archicatgaming3486]

bruh

[@Keksfox]

At least say why xD tf is this polite non-constructive criticism??

[@macswanton9622]

passive-aggressive tit

[@tomfu6210]

Yeah, like anybody is interrested...

[@johnrobinson3863]

I didn’t like your unhelpful comment so I gave you a thumbs down too 👎