How Brett Johnson escaped from prison | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips

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GUEST BIO:
Brett Johnson was a US Most Wanted cybercriminal, called the Original Internet Godfather by US Secret Service for building the the first organized cybercrime community called ShadowCrew, which was the precursor to today's darknet and darknet markets.
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[@f0xx32]

Hard to tell what this guy is telling the truth about he sounds exactly like every "good" liar I've met

[@Nassirtheory]

Probably half truths and half lies to spice up his story

[@mrsugar2352]

Can’t be that good if you know they’re lying.

[@jarl-caysen]

He has the sociopath con man abilities in him it's easy to see

[@damianvazquez6474]

most people live incredibly mundane lives and cant believe it when someone deviates from their idea of “normal”

[@timboslice8559]

He probably is a good liar but his story doesn’t sound all that crazy considering he was on americas most wanted list, so I believe him!

[@MrDuntus]

Few things in my opinion are more off putting than a man who loves the sound of his own voice

[@strongman914]

It’s a podcast about his life story, he’s supposed to be talking. Either the interviewer interrupts too much or the interviewee talks too much. You’ll never be satisfied

[@philgiordano7715]

You see how deliberate he is with names and details? This is high level lying. Makes it so difficult to tell what is true and what is created because everything he says is so specific and nuanced.

[@snailcage]

Joey Diaz even adds the addresses he was at and the dates like he somehow knows the address of a place he went once 25 years ago lol

[@whatis6c6f7665]

@@snailcage For what it's worth, every address/ specific place in my hometown that I've heard Joey reference has been legit or at least *extremely* close. I genuinely think he has a unique ability to remember these kinds of things.

[@fatmunch6318]

Joey diaz could describe the texture of a tomato on the left side of a Cuban sandwich he had in 1987 in a deli on the corner of Pennsylvania Avenue before the small hill in Billings Montana

[@user-kq8dg9op7f]

@@whatis6c6f7665 jersey boys in the house

[@alec6948]

@@snailcage joey has been pretty regularly checked on anything possible and is always correct. He'll know that the giants blew out the colts on a Monday night game in '92 and it was raining, and he'll be right most of the time. His memory is for real

[@tehrage4044]

Within the first 30 seconds, I could tell something was off, with his vibe and communication. I'm glad other comments confirmed this as well.

[@dizzzzzzler]

You’re crushing it Lex! Thanks man. This guy was more than interesting. Keep ‘em coming!

[@jumbroni6014]

I used to be a career criminal when I was younger. This dude is 100% making the story with exaggerations. But it sounds better like that and when you're living that type of life, it feels that way. So, in a sense, its real. ATLEAST by his perceptions.

[@malkeytone3285]

what did you do exactly?

[@jumbroni6014]

@@malkeytone3285 I'd rather not say but nothing creepy. I was just a dirtbag in a previous life.

[@Coryalan2]

@@jumbroni6014 were you a habitual jaywalker?

[@MrMatthewKerr]

Just stealing Turtle Neck after Turtle Neck? Boy, we’ve all been down that road. It never ends how you think it’s gonna end . . . And that’s not with 1000’s of turtle necks.

[@jumbroni6014]

@@MrMatthewKerr nice try. But a good criminal never reveals his past.

[@pauliedibbs9028]

What a life this man lived! Lex has the greatest interviews, ever, because they are from ALL walks of life...

[@lexxb6386]

Great interview! Is there a movie or series about this guy yet?

[@lorinsmith9898]

This popped up in my recommendations, love the podcast, how good is Brett at telling a story.

[@sebasnotfunny6141]

Love how Lex adjust to different personalities

[@vivelajonny]

It's because he's an insecure worm lol

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

Like any good con.

[@robertdale8758]

And doesn't have one of his own.

[@kimolsson9386]

It sounds just like a movie. It is almost as if he thought about how the story would be told about his life before he did and said anything.

[@away69]

Really loving these clips. Gotta watch the whole podcast, such an interesting story, one of my favourites so far!

[@roastbeefdinner]

search about this brett johnson guy...he is full of shit. he is afterall a con artist....that means he is a liar

[@spcneary]

Amazing story! I have not been that into what a story in a while.

[@vibrolax]

Had to rescue a relative from the State Hospital at Big Spring TX. What a trip.

[@Dapryor]

I need more details.

[@vibrolax]

@@Dapryor You know, the usual. Fly across the country, drive halfway across TX. Golf-ball sized hail and flash floods. Convince a judge to release my relative. Normal stuff.

[@lando2519]

WOW i’m from ashland, ky. never thought i’d hear about my hometown on this show!!

[@abe3567]

This guy is legit and still lying.

[@roycedot]

prove it

[@jasonhubsmith]

I get that feelling too - not sure if its cause hes laughing at his past when recalling it

[@coltonwhite2713]

The first scene of dusk till dawn was filmed in Lancaster CA

[@Akooks]

🤣 well he loves to lie

[@tylerklang6844]

Did this dude really escape from prison aswell what a legend

[@stephenoliver321]

The timing of this was perfect.

[@freebitcoingiveaway119]

19:48 THAT is like my living conditions now.. i mean most living conditions now... going to prison for me would mean 3 meals a day and no work requirements... where do i sign up

[@chrisreynolds2410]

If your initials were BJ you’d break outta prison too. Don’t judge this man.

[@baenbaen7398]

Highly underrated comment 😂😂

[@roberteskew7320]

I live near Big Spring, Tx 🙃

[@sirwhodison]

They should make a thriller/comedy movie about this guy's life

[@aaronpartridge5275]

Yeah, lightly based on a true story.

[@ExactConsciousness]

Shawshank redemption.

[@philiplavery03]

“Well, you could try to pass the polygraph.” Lol

[@Beantown85]

At least the lawyer was honest 😂

[@kevinschenk9278]

Story is 25% true.

[@roycedot]

be more specific

[@fefesock8316]

Very interesting

[@Courtney_Baker]

I wonder what books he read and what books were intended to be taught in his Lit class.

[@Gojirasu]

I wish he went into more detail with the "they got me with a triggerfish" thing

[@Network-Mike]

It's a device the gov can use to track you down if they know certain aspects of your cell phone. It acts as a fake cell tower, your phone connects to it briefly and provides your location to them....(very simple version of how it works)

[@Gojirasu]

@@Network-Mike Ohhhh

[@Network-Mike]

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[@flaviokauling1436]

Wait, I am from Florianópolis, Brazil! What year was that? Where was he planning to live round here?

[@cranekraken24]

He said this was all going on in 2006

[@jeffreygeorge219]

Diesel transportation sounds crazy, but imagine being on ConAir to be transported for a 2 hour trip from Georgia to Colorado and you are on the plane for 17 hours chained, hands to feet to bars, no bathroom, no moving, 7 departures and landing, just so you piss and crap yourself because they are mad at you, 1st on, last off.

[@malkeytone3285]

I wonder why the judge let him be released early after his escape.

[@malkeytone3285]

hmmm...i'm smelling the possibility of informing on someone.

[@Coryalan2]

When are polygraphs admissible and not? I've never understood why they matter in any way

[@AxelCross]

They arent admissible in 99% of circumstances in most jurisdictions. They aren't reliable enough. I've heard that a person can beat a polygraph simply by taking some benzos beforehand. That may be apocrypha, but they still are known to be more art than science, just like examining bite marks on a person's skin.

[@thechosenwon6762]

Polygraph didn't think they used those any more so easy to get inconclusive just put something Sharpe in your socks and keep pushing down on it through out the test

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

I just think that half of what he says is BS.

[@Hunter7023]

Same that's why I didn't listen to the podcast. Right out the gate he sounds full of shit.

[@EP-nl6fd]

Yea without a doubt

[@johnnyripple8972]

That’s the problem with asking a professional liar questions. It’s like talking to a politician and money or a doctor about health.

[@Joseph-lk9pf]

Charleston County as in charleston South Carolina ?

[@generichuman_]

So to summarize, he escaped prison by basically just walking away? Movies led me to believe the process was slightly more involved...

[@Big_Wamu]

The places are run by poorly paid state workers.... can't really expect much

[@Scottierolls]

Landscaping crews can be out of sight from guard(s) for short periods time

[@YMH420s]

Epic stories.

[@jbell254]

I am in bigspring now crazy

[@haonrolyat]

this dude's persona screams dave ramsay - i really dislike these personas being from near kentucky myself - it's a totally manipulative persona not their real persona

[@koopa816mj1]

Wait it ends on cbt training is the best thing that has ever happened? Cbt would be horrific to me.

[@Dhardy316]

One of the best episodes! 3+ hours and Im amazed Awesome storyteller, hes got "it"

[@andrewbrown6522]

Who is this guy and how short would this story be if he didnt tell it like a gr 5 book with the he said i said he said...

[@mariononya2112]

Well u got me lex.

[@Coryalan2]

While entertaining, I only believe 35% of what I just heard

[@roycedot]

point out what's a lie

[@Akooks]

How do you steal money with prepaids? If you steal prepaid cards, there’s no money on them. The cashier has to add money on it through transaction. And no cashier is going to just add $160k on cards without cash or card payment. I used to work as a server at PF Chang’s, and a lot of people would try to pay with stolen prepaid gift cards and there would be no money on that shit. I would call the card company and they can tell if money was put on it or if it was stolen off the shelf.

[@gardener3030]

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[@jasonpaquette2301]

This is one of the most interesting person I've seen in awhile. Definitely Movie material-Hollywood movie biography. Actor and Comedian .

[@micahhayes8770]

9:10....guys that have done Fed time swear they would rather do months in confinement than any time length on diesel therapy.

[@alanaguilar5449]

If you think for one minute that this guy has a "cool life story" , you are seriously effed up in the head. Just solitary for 8 months alone is hell. Not to mention all the other bull this guy has gone through

[@thestockfother]

No his life has been rad so far. You're just a simpleton whose doesn't take risks or put their neck out

[@Athiestpker]

Well he is a sociopath though not that he deserved solitary but the dude really fucked over a ton of people

[@andrewwilson8374]

Dave Ramsay voice twin

[@gavinjameslux]

I clicked on this knowing it was 34 minutes long

[@noahokayama3825]

Most people wouldn’t believe my story if I story them either. Props to this guy for putting his heart on his sleeve, despite knowing how cynical and negative most Internet commenters are.

[@earljohnson2676]

I did the drug thing in prison and it backfired when I got my parol they gave me more classes and the lady in charge sucked all over me for suboxone n my PO said idk what you do just don’t use herion ok never my drug of choice but I needed up back in because of that program and just lambed it for a year and got off after a month in jail clean n clear now

[@slapmesillay]

He kind of sounds like the guy from pawn stars. And semi looks like him

[@joaoportesantava1412]

I’m a legal Brazilian immigrant sense 1987 but I have a place in Florianópolis Brazil in the north part of the Island called “Jurerê internacional”. Juan Carlos Abadias was caught there. A cocaine dealer from Peru. Many people hide out in Florianópolis especially in Jurerê Internacional because its all expensive homes and nobody sees nobody in the winter and in the summer all the Brazilian go there and Argentinians for the beaches. All the houses are rented. Great place to hide money and hide

[@dopeydenniss]

How did he steal this money... for uhhh, research purposes

[@janlythje6464]

Lex is looking hammered and mumbles like he is hign !!

[@shable1436]

Ppl think he is lying, I can tell he isn't lying most of the time, only exaggerating slightly. But only for story purposes, the facts are all true

[@dm55]

All talk.

[@frankrizzo5958]

Around the 10 min mark he mentions paying a lawyer 160k and the lawyer dropped him cause he paid with illegal funds,a lawyer doesnt have to tell anyone how much someone paid him or where the money came from and most lawyers wont ask where money came from thats being handed to them especially in cash.This guy is full of shit

[@johnherzog3452]

Cool clip

[@beeftwinkie2198]

I know that diesel therapy is real..it should be considered cruel and unusual punishment

[@ASMRMoto]

Get Wes Watson on next time

[@mariononya2112]

andy duffram

[@generaliserad]

Easy, just put QR-codes on all inmates and have a cheap drone doing the info gathering

[@nebraskaryan9308]

What’s does he do for a living now

[@kd_kane9845]

How is this guy not still locked up? Class A manipulator. Anyone else would be serving a life sentence. What a fucking joke of a justice system.

[@IceColdProfessional]

This man needs to go to Pelican Bay prison. He won't get out of there.

[@lanceroark6386]

A polygraph isn’t admissible, so don’t take the polygraph.

[@elpadrino1024]

Story isn’t as Interesting as it could be if someone else had told it

[@jarrettevanbrown]

This guy shouldn't be given a platform to reminisce about being a terrible person.

[@ianlauhon8760]

To funny I live in Ashland ky

[@mosswurm]

man i wish i knew i how to steal that much money

[@MobstersInc]

Escape Plan 🚁

[@xcreenplay7264]

I never hread of this guy but man this is one hella if story

[@coltonwhite2713]

Aight cappy

[@pmccoy8924]

75% of this entire clip he is making the stories up.

[@phalangetonguer]

It insane to me that polygraphs can be used for anything lol

[@111matt]

if u thought this was cool, u should check out his podcast the anglerphish its 100x better

[@b_to_the_b]

It’s so obvious he’s the biggest liar

[@ThaSilentOne420]

Next time hope freight trains out of there simple no police nothing

[@MichelleseaChelle]

This guy’s a comedian. Lol.

[@i_dont_live_here]

Third riot, ya lay in your bunk.

[@federalbureauofinvestigati7880]

Brett Johnson. Join Matthew Cox podcast.

[@KingKatura]

28:00 Its because hurting children is a Abomination not a crime. It probably doesn't help that almost anyone who has ever committed a crime, most likely has had some experience with abuse when they were kids. And lets not forget that most of everyone who has ever committed a crime typically were raised solely by their mother and the father really wasn't ever there. There's a bit more to it, like the wish to return to innonence and the respect that comes along with it, the idea that only the weak prey on children and women, of which most people who have committed crime to a large extent has spent some time to gain some type of dominance to expel weakness so forth and so on. So yeah there is multiple reasons and purposes some more than others and some all of the above. But yeah its a abomination something not worthy of life, in a majority's eyes. The problem is there is people who are accused and convicted of it, that are actually innocent, and they get placed up with the others.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

Click-bait. He never told HOW, or even THAT he escaped from prison.

[@markshirley7773]

They'll kill ya!?!?!? Federal time is cake 🎂!!! State is fulla sexual predators! Still mostly beautiful folks that just got caught!!! Erbody spices up their storyz so they look better! I ❤ y'all

[@lordcoopy]

I’m guessing less than 50% of this detail is true.

[@micahhayes8770]

9:10....diesel therapy is so fucked up. Prime ex of things fucked up in our prison system. Put a inmate on a bus chained with no seat room. No contact with, no calls and nasty ass sack lunches.

[@acb9896]

It's supposed to suck, guy.

[@jamesporter6288]

Who's is this guy? Just some criminal? Whats he deserve my respect for?

[@chrisdupuis1107]

🧐

[@mikecodellaupagainstthewall]

Criminals always think they're smarter then law enforcement. Secret Service agents are hard working and dedicated individuals. Great job pinched this guy.

[@personatthebay]

He is simply in a different time

[@mikecodellaupagainstthewall]

@@personatthebay doesn't matter. They (perps) always think they're smarter than the law. That's why they always get caught. That, and greed!

[@surfingtothestars]

Just like the ones in Colombia that got caught with prostitutes

[@mikecodellaupagainstthewall]

@@surfingtothestars oh because a few men paid to get laid, all the agents are bad, lol?

[@danielbrakke4460]

Something is off with this guy

[@kevincorso7929]

Guys slimy. Should be a car salesman at a buy here pay here.

[@justineasterling5079]

Solitary confinement will absolutely destroy the mind

[@dabbking]

I would just work out

[@triple9fine]

@@dabbking You can only work out for so long.

[@dabbking]

@@triple9fine yeah until your i solitary

[@mosswurm]

lets put the whole world in solitary and call it a pandemic. Don't worry theyll police themselves and each other.

[@timboslice8559]

@@dabbking plus you don’t have any weights all you can do is body weight stuff, so yeah your gonna get tired of that quick

[@Miguel-yu9zv]

Cap

[@kjekelle96]

I don't think you should be posting clips about this.

[@diggysoze2897]

It’s important to understand how many people are like this man. We like to believe most people are inherently ‘good’ in their hearts - and that’s not based in reality

[@kjekelle96]

@@diggysoze2897 Of course, I meant that I think it's important to hear the whole conversation in this case, and that making clips will make it more amenable to interpretation.

[@justineasterling5079]

Solitary confinement is torture and I hope the people who inflict this evil on their fellow man burn for what they are doing

[@ursaferrarius]

I am ignorant.Why does such a thing deserve such a harsh punishment? Please explain.

[@liquidsnakex]

@@ursaferrarius choosing to do evil to others means you deserve the same in return, it’s not exactly rocket science 🚀⚛️

[@p38blue]

@@liquidsnakex and identity theft creates ongoing harm to the victim for years

[@zoobear3330]

Whatever this guy did he should be forgiven

[@Man_fay_the_Bru]

Mmmm …I don’t believe this guys story