How Cast Freetour works and why i like it.

[@marcvesin]

This setup is a dream come true, for those who think it's heavy, mind the other choice is a pair of Salomon Guardians who weight like an irl Salomon Guardian, i also saw some people bind an articulated system inside a regular Pivot and it was ok but probablly heavier.

[@ryangunn7638]

Awesome getting this setup next season 100%!

[@TheMadMagician87]

Just mounting mine now :) I know CAST recommend against using Binding Freedom inserts on the toe piece due to possible alignment issues, but for reasons of travelling with a ski quiver and only one set of bindings....I'm going to try it. Plan is to that I'll mount them normally first, ski them, then do some test mounts on 2x4 or old skis using the inserts to see if it all works the same, then mount for real using inserts and hope I get the same result. Should be an awesome setup for slackcountry, which is mostly what I do :)

[@Halliday55]

You can mount a Cast set up with inserts but you need to be dead nuts on. Practicing on a 2X4 is great but mistakes still can be made in alignment. Use Hardman 72 hour epoxy in the orange package and set everything up while the epoxy is still workable. Hardman 72 hour has a long set up time. Be careful and good luck.

[@kylewogelius6220]

For anyone in the northeast of the US considering these, there are only two shops that I have come across that will even consider mounting these bindings. It seems the technology hasn't hit the northeast yet, whether that be due to CASTS' lack of affiliation with LOOK, or the fact that to some shops it looks like modified LOOK equipment, (which it is) Im not sure... Anyways, these are sick bindings, trying to get a shop to mount them was INSANELY challenging and I'm disappointed that I had to look so hard to find a shop that would barely say yes to mounting these for me. Thanks for the informative video!

[@mattjax16]

Where did you go I’m in the northeast

[@NADNERB001]

But any shop will mount pivots and you can do the cast conversion yourself (following their guide). Was it that you wanted the shop to do the cast for you?

[@kylewogelius5084]

@@NADNERB001when i made this comment, yes that’s what i was looking for. Been using this system since i got them mounted and have since moved it to another ski myself. Great bindings

[@colinarner790]

So confused by this, it’s the same jig as a pivot. Never had or even heard of anyone having an issue

[@kylewogelius5084]

@@colinarner790tell me about it, it was a PITA when I was mounting them back in 2022, as I didn’t have a jig or the tools to mount them myself. Now people don’t stop looking at them on the slopes, lol This was just my experience when I first got these, it was also years ago.

[@toothless6420]

Wow that is incredible

[@coreyjared8813]

A trick: you can watch movies on kaldrostream. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies recently.

[@lewisbrantley3308]

@Corey Jared definitely, I've been using KaldroStream for years myself :D

[@colemayson1164]

@Corey Jared Yup, been watching on Kaldrostream for since december myself :)

[@enochcannon1555]

@Corey Jared yea, I've been watching on Kaldrostream for months myself :)

[@wallstreetoneil]

amazing video and product - thanks for posting this information

[@Stomptown]

Happy to help!

[@loug4626]

Thankyou for great review Reine. I have regular Look Pivot 15 on Bent Chetler 100's (188 cm) which I really like and entertaining converting. If I understand correctly I can convert my Look Pivot 15's to the Case Freetour system?? Would that be a hassle or am I better off/easier to just get the P18 installed.? (use Pivot 15's on another pair in quiver). I am retired and have never tried touring but would like the option and suspect would be a 20 percent touring with majority resort skiing. Also entertaining the Duke PT16/ Atomic Shifts. Undecided? at this point. Thankyou again. Lou

[@Stomptown]

Hi. You can use the p15 just fine, I have it on a few setups. The problem is that you have to install a plate under the toe piece, that means that you will have to re drill the ski in a new place to avoid the old holes. Or you use the same holes that it's mounted in now but that is usually not recommended. It's a perfect setup and the cheepest option if you already own P15 or P18. And the most solid. Cheers

[@loug4626]

@@Stomptown Thankyou.

[@aleutiannava2075]

Also works with the 15s

[@Stomptown]

Sure does

[@NabilKassam]

Awesome. Can I convert an existing ski with a Look Pivot 18 binding into this setup, or do I have to start with a brand new ski?

[@kyleclayton5530]

You can use this setup, it just replaces the mounting plates for your Look bindings to add the functionality of the touring gear.

[@ESB_Media]

Great overview.. now where to get them??

[@Stomptown]

🙏🙏 www.casttouring.com

[@average0citizen]

hey man! does the front CAST metal-plate sit flat to the ski when the pin toepiece is attached? with mine theres a little space beetween the ski and the plate thats not covered by the pintoepiece - is that normal?

[@Stomptown]

I think it should flat against the ski. If not there might be resedue from the drilling of the ski if the drill was too narrow. Some of the metal plate will show outside the toe pin piece and this is normal. But it should be flush against the ski.

[@matteoramu8519]

Nice Video! But can you also ride with the touring toe piece, or do you always have to carry the p18 toe piece with you? Because it looks kinda like the Dynafit binding, and also other pin bindings are used like this.

[@LunaticBiker11]

No, since the pins are too far forward to click into the heel.

[@mbailey802]

Great! happy with the performance? Haven't damaged anything when stomping cliffs or crashing? the fks toe piece stays in place very solid? thanks

[@Stomptown]

Yeah its been working grat, no problems so far and everything has stayed in place.

[@damu4623]

Can you switch the AFDs? Would love to ski them with my AT and Alpin Boots. (Sole length are quite similar)

[@Stomptown]

Yes you can, on the Cast website there are different AFD for all soles.

[@damu4623]

@@Stomptown That's great! Thx for all this information.

[@galekos]

Hi Reine I have allready a lookpivot18 on a pair of volkls. Will i be able to mount the cast toe by my self using the original screwholes or i need to make new holes???

[@Stomptown]

Hi. Well, technically you could as the drillholes are exactly the same however, as with any remounting the general recommendation is do make new holes as there is a chance that the threads in the wood of the old holes will be weakened. Alternatively you could put in coils or inserts in the old holes but that can be tricky business.

[@BM-gh1fc]

Did you ever have problems that the toe piece falls off when you crash?

[@Stomptown]

I was worried about it but it hasn't happened so far.

[@andytbt2239]

I have a p14 on my skis. Is it a problem to put instead of the p14 the p15 on the ski plus the cast touring system? Do i have to drill new holes or can I use the same holes from the p14?

[@Stomptown]

I'm not sure if the p14 and p15 holes line up, i dont think they do. 15 and 18 are the same I would however (in general) not use the same drillholes if i could avoid it as they could be weaker with broken threads. Alternately you could put in coils or something similar but that's Kinda tricky.

[@petersymmes4200]

Cast does not work with p14, only the 18 and 15 have the toe pedestal that can be converted.

[@dgw6448]

I am not clear on why they wouldn't use the same keyhole setup on the touring binding as they would on the DH binding. Isn't there a risk that the touring lining would become disengaged when it is in the open setting?

[@Stomptown]

Theoretically but it's also held in place by the spring loaded mechanism. It's is actually a slight hey hole frame there as well

[@dgw6448]

@@Stomptown I have since seen them in person, did not realize that the tech toe piece is only intended for climbing.

[@francoislemay4871]

Is it possible to use dynafit boots with those fix?

[@Stomptown]

If it has a toe lip yes

[@douglashamilton7426]

I seen on som pictures on Instagram that you use your Lange RS. How do you get your pin insert into these boots? Can you do it your self? I have Fischer RC4 and these boots I love, so if there is a possibility to get inserts in these boots I would definitely buy the Cast system. Already have the Pivot 18 so that’s not the problem👍

[@Stomptown]

I had my boots shipped to Cast in and they made the conversion for me, you can check out the process here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5fdl6N4mZxle8U Iv'e seen people do it them self but with varied results and methods, there are many ways I think but its a bit tricky. Yeah if you already have the P18 i would definitely recommend this system.

[@Jrockjeff]

Have you had any bad ice build up with this setup? Seems like it could freeze the binding in place with that little release lever

[@Stomptown]

Hi. Never had the lever freeze in place but I have had some ice on the toepiece, it was still easy to get of though, just a few small "hammer" taps with your palm will do it.

[@peterlenzi1649]

Trevlig video!!

[@Stomptown]

Tack, kul att vara till hjälp.

[@comeontars]

Bummed they don't work with pivot 14s

[@MrMitchjos000]

What skis are these? I want this kit.

[@Stomptown]

That is the Dynastar Legend Factory, unfortunately not in production anymore. Now i use the Dynastar M-free 118 with this kit.

[@whoisthe1412]

Does this only works with pivot 15 or 18?

[@Stomptown]

Yes. Those two have the same screw pattern on the toe piece.

[@Stomptown]

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[@danielschneider2446]

Do these work with the pivot 12s?

[@Stomptown]

Unfortunately no. Only p15 and p18

[@Axel-mt1ee]

How did you convert the cuff to give you some kind of walk mode ? Also, how easy is it to adjust the two risers with your poles? Haven't been able to see anyone actually flipping them up and down in the field, only by hand... Thanks,

[@Stomptown]

I didn't convert the cuffs, there just normal race boots with pin inserts. I dont find the walk mode necessary unless traveling long distances on flat, which i rarely do. Its surprisingly easy handling the risers with the pole, much easier than my old frame binding and about the same as my Look HM12 (Dynafit radical 2)

[@edcunningham5562]

@@Stomptown This is super interesting, gonna buy alpine boots next season and get them converted to cast. Don't like my "130" AT boots that much... An underated benefit of this system is there are loads of great alpine boots so you're more likely to get a great fit, where as there are only a few 5050 type boots that are 130 ish and they're still all worse downhill than a proper alpine boot.

[@samenameaspewdipie9302]

you could try. daymakers

[@Stomptown]

I have, they are OK but only for really short tours and no traversing.

[@neild1362]

Salomon shifts, Atk bindings? I feel like this is overkill for 90% of skiers and terrible for long tours.

[@Stomptown]

That's like comparing a gravel bike to a mountain bike. If your goal is maximum security with durability and performance, cast is the way to go. If you want lighter but sacrifice security and performance to some extent the ATK is the way to go. I compete on Cast, I would die if I tried that on one of the others you mentioned. But yes, it's overkill for 90% But for the ten percent that is sending it on a daily basis it's a super good option.

[@Thestripper1]

I would buy this system if there was a way to use alpine boots (non tech toe). I have tried all of the touring boots and none comes close to a good pure alpine boot. I'm hauling alpine trekkers.

[@Stomptown]

I use my Lange RS130 race boot with this system, converted by casttouring.com But yeah, would be nice not to have to but I'm not sure how that would work?

[@Thestripper1]

@@Stomptown I just realized that they have a conversion kit to do that and that's great! Although, it get's very prizy with the boot conversion kit, the mounting, the extra front binding. Introducing many new components that could potentialli break. Did I forget something? There are probably (not sure) some pros to the Cast system compared to Alpinetrekker but man.. It's a long and expensive route to take.

[@LJ-un1hb]

Dude go check out the cochise 130. They rip

[@Thestripper1]

@@LJ-un1hb I have, they didn't.

[@LJ-un1hb]

@@Thestripper1 hahahah alrighty then

[@ethannoname3213]

Seems too complex. Too many points for failure in the backcountry.

[@Stomptown]

I would say the opposite, the solution is very simple with very few parts that could fail (not saying that they can't but I've been abusing them pretty hard and no fails so far). And say if the pin binding breaks, you still have a fully functional binding to go down with unlike many other bindings.

[@jamesdurett5913]

Super cool, I use the Arcteryx boots which have a tiny rand in the back only a few mils so I don’t know if the look binding will work with them but I should try, it would be nice to have another option than just pins

[@Stomptown]

Hmm, good question. Maybe find a friend or someone with p18 and just see how it sits before making any decisions. Good luck

[@petersymmes4200]

Not sure if you have already found this out, but arcteryx boots only work with tech bindings, the soles are too rockered and the toe/heel lugs are pretty much only for crampons