How concerned should the Lakers be with Lonzo Ball's performance against Portland? | UNDISPUTED

[@TheFacilityonFS1]

Should the Lakers be concerned with Lonzo's performance against Portland?

[@MyOaAesis]

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED nah

[@vic9844]

Yep. Hes nothing 'special'. Kuzma is showing better signs than Ball and is taking over games. Passing the ball early and standing around on the side watching from the best seat n the house is not special. I blame the media and his father for this. If the expectations werent so high, he may play better and could just fly under the radar and take his bumps without so much scrutiny. But when you have people calling you 'transcendent' smh you better show me something son. So far, he aint showing me nothing. The kid Kuzma however is focused and looks like the future

[@thesamedufus2012]

The Lakers are playing great basketball right now all thanks to BALL. I would not be concerned with how Ball runs this offense. The Lakers play as a team and each one of them gets to touch the ball and make plays from opportunities that present themselves. What more could you want from a young team? Experience comes from getting the ball. The Lakers(all of them) get the ball.

[@truckitwitbox9059]

Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED He’s an Average player, I was at the suns game and he had easy points... The crowd was telling him to shoot.. Trust me! The league is too fast for him right now because everybody’s fast, everybody’s long, everybody’s crafty... He needs training.

[@darwinpenafiel]

He has a better stat line than jason kidd had in his first 8 games.... y'all should watch first take lol

[@TheMrMantequilla]

Simmons, kuzma, and tatum are killing it for the rookies

[@juangonzalez-kp8ic]

Jim Jackson is on point.

[@terrancephillips1825]

Lonzo fans went from "immediate all-star" to "needs time to develop he's just 19" real quick

[@starwizzy9426]

Terrance Phillips it's only his dad, everyone else knew he physically wasn't there. The shooting form gotta change.

[@terrancephillips1825]

Star Wizzy No man, it really wasn't only his dad. Not saying you thought that, but there were a whole lot of people saying he'd be an immediate star.

[@bust14u21]

Terrance Phillips only... we never said either

[@ch1kmagnet]

Terrance Phillips fact

[@BallKnower]

Facts

[@livewireredb.9953]

The Johnny Manziel of basketball. Bust.

[@patrickclark1615]

LiveWireRed B. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jo-esttan3242]

manziel waa good but he had issues

[@foghornfoggyface]

An apt comparison. Bravo.

[@King.kai.24]

Johnny football-lonzo ball OH MY FUKIN GAWD

[@King.kai.24]

Plus the video of lonzo partying after a loss 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@negativebq]

Jim Jackson was insanely underrated as a player

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

He was a pretty good scorer, but often injured.

[@bigmixx]

No he wasn't. He was a decent scorer for a few years. Now in college he was phenomenal

[@Havalencia13]

Why so much discussion for Lonzo? is because of the market? ia m bored of listing constantly about him..

[@redzoom7857]

Evangelos Lemonis Seriously, the Warriors have played crushing basketball the last two games and they don't even mention them. Lol. Yet they analyze Lakers as if they are a top team. lol

[@agamez91]

RW Sports Debate They don't cover the new york market like this. It's gotten really grating listening to them break down a rookie's every game.

[@matador7457]

Evangelos Lemonis You clicked on this video knowing they would be talking about him lol if you're really tired of this conversation then just don't select the videos with Lonzo in the title. It's simple.

[@astendavis6442]

That's partly it. He plays for the biggest franchise in the league , But mostly it's the lavar ball affect

[@sleuth2077]

Evangelos Lemonis Did the title of the video not give it away, that it was about Lonzo? Smh. Kids these days.....

[@michaelsledge7424]

How do you play 28 minutes in an NBA game and score zero points? Like not even a couple freethrows... lol

[@redzoom7857]

Michael Sledge I don't think I have ever seen that, with only 2 attempts, for a POINT guard...

[@memphisnmb6175]

You guys dont watch many games then it happens y'all just want him come up the court jack 3's his shot selection and vision only gonna get better its not like he can't score he just not trying much for whatever reason

[@redzoom7857]

Memphis NMB He doesn't have to shoot the lights out with 3s, but to be taking almost no shots of any kind/range in a game is unheard of for a PG.

[@Trillavision]

+MJ Zoom remember magic wasn't a shooter when he first came in the league they had to pressure him to start shooting more to help the lakers win those chips

[@jeffreypham4066]

Zero aggression

[@justliving4465]

Can y'all talk bout the other rookies who are actually balling omg

[@shmoesworld3018]

Lonzo need to step his game up but Joy Taylor game is on point lol

[@22apheat]

The only good thing lonzo did was the inbound plays to kcp and kuzma at the end

[@jesuschristmyking8644]

I scored as many points as Lonzo in his last game...and didnt even shoot a shot.

[@pradatune9373]

JesusismyKing777 me too. why aren’t we on the lakers pay roll ):

[@jorgefalconjr]

D'Angelo vs Ball tonight... 👀

[@VeegovonDOOM]

jorge falcon Lonzo is going to shine because he knows he has to.

[@sk-bc9yp]

Lavar needs to work on his defence . Lonzo needs to work on his offence .

[@adamleon9128]

People that care more about lonzo are his haters and trolls. They're his biggest fans 💀💀

[@gabe4433]

They watch his every game , and even his show 😂. People want him to fail so bad but lowkey fans

[@ItsJReign]

thought Kid Cudi was in the thumbnail 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Holdupweight]

J Reign wazzup bruh get back on your grind homie

[@coldwaters127]

You dumb af bruh

[@gmac2531]

That’s Alan Houston right?

[@patyramirez7202]

I'm in a pursuit of figu-r-in' out what's wrong with lonzoooo, everytime he shoots it ain't always gon' gooo iiiiin

[@gmac2531]

Actually it’s Jim Jackson

[@jerryshmurda5563]

lakers would be lucky if lonzo even gets close to being as good as Rubio

[@ChrisSmith-zc3cb]

Jerry Shmurda lol normal dlo fan hating 😂😂😂😂

[@tevmac93]

Rubio cant do everything Lonzo can do but lonzo can do everything Rubio can. He just got to be more aggressive.

[@jerryshmurda5563]

and stop saying jason kidd and lonzo together.. there’s a reason those type of point guards don’t exist anymore because as a pg you need to be able to shoot.. pass first pg is the most flawed term is basketball.. shooting is why john wall will never be elite but at least he is aggressive and goes to the ft line but lonzo does nothing on offense except pass to players who can’t equally shoot

[@jerryshmurda5563]

Tevin McCray rubio is a far better scorer right now than lonzo

[@jerryshmurda5563]

Tevin McCray rubio is also the better defender and arguably a better passer

[@sammythegreat879]

Mild with that yac!

[@B.T.Thoughts314]

Lonzo needs to shoot atleast 14 times a game, i have notices that once he makes the initial pass he never gets the ball back...

[@folkscrazyouthere3076]

Because he gives the ball up like he doesn't want it , it's like he's playing hot potato , his teammates notice how it seems Lonzo doesn't even want the ball.

[@B.T.Thoughts314]

Omar Lee sometimes he does pass and hide, but other times I've seen him beg for the ball and he didnt get it...

[@mathewshoyt1763]

It didn't matter if can score, what matters is how great you can make your teammates. That is how unselfish basketball is played. Their is no I in TEAM

[@kaybalentino85]

Michael Carter-Williams 2.0

[@PleaseBeDumb]

Kemar Ballentine 👀

[@bigrabii9470]

Kemar Ballentine was he expected to be great? wasn't really into basketball when he entered.

[@jerryshmurda5563]

I still remember lavar saying lonzo was better than curry already.. lakers should never have traded dlo cause lonzo would never be better than dlo

[@gabe4433]

The only category dlo beats lonzo In is points

[@jerryshmurda5563]

l lowkey.great l scoring is the hardest thing to do and most important so what’s your point?

[@gabe4433]

Jerry Shmurda more to basketball than scoring tho , when he gets better at scoring he will be a triple double type of player , which is good

[@jerryshmurda5563]

l lowkey.great l notice how players that lead the league in assists are often poor shooters? lebron wall westbrook.. they are all aggressive except lonzo.. the kid doesn’t look like he will ever be a good scorer.. he’s probably another emmanuel mudiay waiting to happen

[@RaMkVaVk]

Jerry Shmurda the Lakers are competitive this year every game except against the clippers has been close lonzo is not as good as Russell right now but Russell is not a team player the Lakers would not have won with him

[@kakamaru5]

Guys, seriously. I love this show. But I have work in the mornings Mon-Fri. I can't watch the full show live so I usually wait to catch the clips you guys upload so I can watch them at lunch. You usually post about 3 a day, the most important topics you guys discuss. So why on God's green Earth is one of those videos not you guys talking about arguably the BIGGEST sports news last night, Deshaun Watson's injury? I mean seriously... Cavs... Lonzo... Elliot/The Cowboys. You guys literally talk about these same three things EVERY DAY. Now I'm sure you guys addressed this in the show, so why not upload it? I just don't get it. We can go without hearing about Lonzo (who I love btw) or the Cavs or the Cowboys for a DAY... I mean seriously, who is in charge of this channel? Show less REPLY

[@prazertv]

Finally, you guys talk about the real star on the Lakers, Kuzma. There needs to be more said about this kid. The problem is you waste an entire show talking about Lonzo "The Bust" Ball and then you devote the last 2 minutes to Kuzma. It needs to be the other way around. Give Kuzma his shine.

[@haruspex16]

2 minutes? I'll say 20 seconds...

[@bonifidehustla]

Not trying to defend Lonzo too much but I wouldn't attack either if I dont have my man body yet.

[@kiLLjoy24CALI]

Put Kuzma in the starting lineup. He needs someone who can cut to the basket and drain the 3. They need to speed the floor make opponents think about clogging the lane. Nance Jr is not that guy.

[@Hundredzs]

Kyle Kuzma is better anyway

[@Weeeeee711]

Lonzos back up is better than him.

[@deonnelson9780]

Kendall Robinson For now Lonzo potential is high.

[@Hundredzs]

Deon Nelson And so is Kumza’s. Have you been watching the Lakers play?

[@deonnelson9780]

Kendall Robinson Yep if Lonzo turns out to be the player he's suppose to be he be good it's still early.

[@MisterBinx]

That was true even in summer league. Kuzma and Swanigan were better players in summer league.

[@Brooklynmoment]

ROTY- BEN SIMMONS 💯 don't @ me.

[@coolmeransom]

GERALDDAGOAT he’s not a real rookie

[@sorryidgaf.6043]

I can’t look at someone that has had a whole season to “PRACTICE” then play his first season and actually call him a rookie .. if Ben played last season I promise you wouldn’t think that ..

[@MrGameonthis]

sorry, idgaf. The way Ben Simmons is playing right now is on a completely different level. Regardless of the one year, he still would be far above any of the other rookies in this class, that's how special he is. I'd go as far to say he's the best rookie since lebron, as of right now anyway.

[@mazzb305]

Yeah Ben Simmons will win ROY. Blake Griffin missed his real rookie year and then came back and won it the 2nd year.

[@best4businesswrestling]

GERALDDAGOAT Jason Party is ROY he's averaging 13ppg 9.7reb 6ast 3stls

[@tonitompson1506]

I honestly never understood the hype... even his fan predicted numbers were never jawdroppin

[@noahanthony4484]

Y'all can't say his avgs are good bc a lot of it came from the one sun's game

[@Bodhi594]

Only thing I remember from the Mavs J. Kid and J. Jackson is those two fighting over Toni Braxton. Also, J Kidd was hands down the quickest/fastest player I ever seen live. You had to see him live.

[@yomammasboo713]

I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little shook but he'll at least they ain't doing as bad as the Cavs right now 😂

[@ericdupree8603]

I’m more disappointed in the Trailblazers. They had a 18 pt. Lead, and blew it. It shouldn’t have even been close

[@King.kai.24]

Right dame plays good ball when he feels like he needs to if he could play 40 intense minutes he would be a top 3 pg

[@BDFfortyfour]

"He had the best + - of anyone on the floor." That's all that needed to be said.

[@whenlambo9759]

I smoke everyday and i can step into the league right now and make the same passes and get to the line 10 times

[@mirzasinggih]

Skip actually sounded smart

[@baliw33]

LaVar Ball got all the sport stations talking about his boy.

[@worldhistorylhsn]

I see a lot of promise. I would like him to be more aggressive on offense.

[@jeffhardy6333]

Jason Kidd stats after first 8 games: 8.9ppg, 6.3apg, 6.6rpg, 35%fg, 18%3ptfg Lonzo Ball Stats after first 8 games: 9.1ppg, 6.6apg, 6.8rpg, 33%fg, 28%3ptfg Y’all need to be patient, Lonzo will figure it out just like Kidd did. It takes time

[@pradatune9373]

I’m concerned tbh. Good thing I like fox better

[@gabe4433]

Fox had a 6 point game then a 2 Point game vs John wall , no rookie is perfect

[@jermz345]

Ben Simmons

[@pradatune9373]

l lowkey.great l fox still having a better year

[@evloh]

Guys, its more than the box score. He's led the team in + minus the last 2 games. He played amazing D and ran the offense well in both the last games. I agree he needs to shoot more, but if he isn't scoring he is still finding a way to impact the game in a positive way for his team.

[@davidtown5993]

Lonzo looks glued to the floor when he doesn’t have the ball, no moment when the ball isn’t in his hand

[@panamcail]

"Lonzo took the game over" - Skip, regarding the 29 points scored by Ball against the Suns. What he left out was he took 27 shots in that game. Ball will likely take 20 more shots next game, score 25, and then people the people who STILL want to spin that this kid is special,

[@deandrepage1048]

Try Lonzo Ball as a BACKDOOR CUT guy for Alley-Oop dunks 😂😂😂

[@tubenachos]

Kuzma is one of the few rookies with polished offensive game.

[@MrEdongzki]

Its so hard to teach what kobes have..the agression..the passion.i know it cant be teach..but he must learn it..

[@dredagr848]

Joy has the easiest job in America...sit there shut up smile and look cute

[@er1cmaurer]

Expect more of the same. He's not that good. Not hating, just the truth.

[@jsm530]

Jackson was a beast at Ohio state he will always be a buckeye. Fox sports has great analysts.

[@Tonio5100]

Lonzo Ball = Ricky Rubio Rubio rookie stats 10ppg 4rebs 8ast 2stls 35% shooting Ball rookie stats 9ppg 6rebs 6ast 1stl 32% shooting

[@ianfitton9400]

lonzo just needs to find the balance of his game in terms of how he approaches his nba career,he needs to set his play style and then focus on polishing his game,at the moment he seems to be trying different styles and ways of fitting in with the team which has been exposed at times as the others in the team are also trying to find their role and lonzo switching his play like he has makes it hard for the lakers to maintain consitency,no doubt he has the talent to be a top player in the nba but it is still early days and the lakers are in many ways developing during the rebuild just like he is

[@unadulteratedmc3821]

The game was alot different then in the 90s and 2000s. It was dominated by 4-5s. You can't have a 1-3 being unproductive today. Doesn't matter as much about passing and assists at the PG position today.

[@Brehon_TalkingFinance]

Luke needs to do what’s best for the team, and bring Lonzo off the bench!!

[@michaelsledge7424]

Lonzo is soft

[@baliw33]

He got too much pressure put on him from his old man LaVar Ball.

[@deonnelson9780]

Michael Sledge He's a rookie

[@savydayz5835]

Michael Sledge he's very soft and that's part of the problem.

[@BEATmyguest31]

Believe it or not but a lot of us Laker fans are students of the game & are not a broad generalization opposing fans so oftent times like to rip on. I watched Lonzo in summer league & i saw all the hype surrounding his games & i knew the whole time he was a work in progress. How many players have come in at 18-19 years old and dominated? 2? 3? Yeah, theres a reason Lebron is Lebron. NO, Lonzo will never have the type of impact Lebron had DUH, the dude LITERALLY is a freak of nature. But, anyone who says Lonzo is a bust after only like 8 games LOL you havent been paying attention.

[@Strolific]

Honestly if Lonzo played up to par, the Lakers would be really decent with the ascendance of Kyle and Ingram

[@hermanthomasiii7294]

LAKERS BENCH SHOULD START

[@tonyy_destined]

Herman Thomas III on god

[@ig3ntl3man3]

🤔

[@munoken]

Jim Jack should have his own show with Broussard...

[@patyramirez7202]

Top 2 Skip Bayless expressions: 1. "You know it and I know it" 2. "...When my spurs beat the Miami heat by a record margin"

[@stan8540]

Lakers must start: Clarkson @ PG Caldwell-Pope @ SG Kuzma @ SF Randle @ PF Brook @ C

[@90zKidz1]

Stan A ingram bro he does work on both ends kuzna is a good spark off the bench

[@stan8540]

90zKidz1 Kuzma too. He doin' it better than Ingram. I'm seeing flashes of Kobe in him. Lakers new franchise player has arrived!

[@Gahr20]

The scary thing is even tho he's playing real passive , the lakers aren't getting blown out in these losses. If he can just be more in attack mode they might get better results .

[@jadkhalife9790]

Skip is a legend

[@Zirboman]

pressure can play tricks on your mind (thank you dad)

[@BodyRocker9]

Even Kuzma said he needs to attack the basket more. So far he's trash but I do believe he will get better

[@starwizzy9426]

Flesh Eaterz do you worry there's stuff going on behind the scenes?Like the pressure is getting to him. I mean all the lakers can just be free cos they know if they lose, it's all on Lonzo anyways. Kuz is playing with zero expectations. Let me give you an interesting stat, Kuzma was 27% from 3 the first 5 games, and 25% from 3 last game but he is aggressive. Lonzo isn't and that affects his numbers. He literally just needs to drive to the basket, but at UCLA he did stuff like this that's why his PPG was 14, there were 16 games he shot less than 10 times.

[@BodyRocker9]

I think with all the hype directed at him yes there is a lot of pressure especially the way his dad is hyping him up. I think he's going to have good nights and bad nights and just needs to get more comfortable with his shot. It's too early to call him a bust he'll get better. Your'e right he does pretty good driving to the basket. I don't know we will see either way he's got a lot to work on. Should be a interesting year at the least and I think we are already better than last year

[@tiismuna]

Star Wizzy the lakers just never give him the green light to carry the team like he always do..

[@pelicanswillrise3321]

Is there a difference between 2 points and 0 points? The analyst don't seem to care or even noticed when Fox and Dennis Smith Jr. had 2 points in a game. Oct. 29th Dearon Fox vs Wizards in 1st NBA start: 2 points on 1/8 shooting Oct. 30th Dennis Smith Jr vs Utah: 2 points on 1/7 shooting The thing about Lonzo, yes he should be more aggressive but I think he doesn't like force shots just to say I took shots. Many of the Laker players are playing ISO ball including Brandon Ingram who never seems to pass the ball to Lonzo when coming up the court.

[@ntnnot]

Good points... needs to be more aggressive and willing to take risks. Jason Kidd still a decent comparison. On to the next game.

[@marcusgeiger826]

It's amazing how Skip find a way to make excuses for players he likes but find every flaw in players he doesn't like 😂

[@TopOppTvee]

The no free throws is just he's still a lil frighten... and he still gotta long ride to go.. damn son just tuffen💪 up..

[@nd7841]

6´2, 6´6 and now 6´7 ?!?! Wow Lonzo is growing fast :D

[@thaarealdeal4349]

I don't care what anyone says, Lakers are a fun team to watch

[@LennoxHaynes21]

Still a Lonzo fan💯

[@btc4three1]

He was a +10 and he did a good job pushing the tempo other guys were scoring so he didn't look for his own shot he will eventually learn the balance between getting his own shot and passing

[@madboyreadynow28]

I have been saying this and I will continue to use to say that Lonzo Goofball will be the biggest NBA Bust in NBA history. Yes he’s a rookie and he will have his ups and downs. What you see now is what you will see in year 3. He will not get any better. In the NBA you have to bring it every night. You can't turn it on one game and off 3 or 4 and come back and have one good game. You have to play hard NBA grown man basketball every night. This player will never make it to the playoffs and people talk about putting better talent around him. Better talent will only expose how bad he really is. Lonzo will be the biggest NBA Bust. The biggest is because of the hype from his dad and the media who fell for the hype. The Lakers should have picked Diaren Fox

[@ratskate9951]

You're a big joke.

[@madboyreadynow28]

J lfame Lavar Goofball is that you????

[@scottinnh88]

Celtics Danny Ainge made smart move to trade down for Jason Tatum and get another top pick in the future. Its a shame that Hayward broke his leg. Celtics are on a 10 game winning streak. Tatum has been huge.

[@ACHEIZM]

Zo is all Hype... Been saying it since day one. Thank Lavar he's the hype man.

[@jvostudio]

I feel like any kid in highschool could be drafted in nba if they were ask to grab rebound, lead the fastbreak, and shoot 3. Pretty much summarize lonzo ball skill set.

[@Mr_Failure-101]

Facts!. I like their points, i still think its over reacting.but very balid and great points. Really good Analysts

[@poyerpoia7315]

K Kuzma is the future

[@SuperJohn12354]

Got to give it to Larva, Ben Simmons is the best young play and they don't talk about him, LBJ drops 44 they talk about Lonzo, have to be impressed that Larva managed to make the media dance to his tune.

[@honeymoonhanz2542]

If he takes more attempts he is simply taking from his next man's volume. It's more important the most efficient scores continue to take the heavy load of attempts. It's an offensive shift in philosophy that is needed. The offense needs a rhythm that allows for continuity and ball flow beyond Balls first pass or the initial half court pass from anyone. They are looking like the Cavs space the floor Iso scheme and that's not the juice for them albeit they only lost by 3 here and were in position to win.

[@D_SQ]

Also this contention that someone is 'old school' should not be allowed to see the light of day. The expectation has been raised on PGs because the game changed with less contact and it became a little easier for PGs to put points on the boards.

[@rodrickpugh1836]

Despite what Lonzo's dad said, give him at least till mid season to pass judgement.... Obviously he can play, I think he has to get comfortable with the system.....

[@3eyenewsnetwork702]

WALTON CALLS HIM "TOO PASSIVE" TOO PASSIVE

[@markmarkem1572]

EXACTLY TAKE OUT THAT PHOENIX GAME AND YOU HAVE A BUST!😂

[@trkr49ncsthbound83]

I'm going to give Lonzo next season to see improvement.

[@willier47]

He did seem a little bit scared. He played good defense though. They only lost by one shot which in my opinion was a highly skilled miracle shot. Just be more aggressive and Keep your head up for the next game

[@palay23]

Why is nobody talking about Tatum?

[@omarshafi786]

Why can't you talk about Ben Simmons That brother is ballin!!

[@CycleCruza]

Lonzo is a boy in a man's league. Time to man up!

[@hermanthomasiii7294]

START KUZMA

[@vladbrad1389]

It's to early to say weather he's a bust or not, however by the end of the season weil have or answer... I believe in Lonzo personally.

[@sidneycoverson4234]

Ben Simmons should be the topic of conversation and what his rookie season looks like.

[@MrKlw19]

Kuzma is special player

[@jbonillaguitar]

remember when everyone was saying his shot wouldn't drop if he didn't change his technique? remember?!?!

[@martellcarthane]

Ingram needs to go to the G League.

[@tonygicz8]

Instead of talking about how bad Lonzo has been in the scoring department how about you guys talk about how good the Lakers have been looking recently!

[@tank100286]

I'm going to the laker game tonight. Lonzo is going to ball tonight. Every time I go to a laker game. Lakers end up winning.

[@deaucilion456]

Mike Tank Brown ll let me put a comment here so when they lose I can drag you

[@comicthecon]

Deaucilion lmao

[@biggotti2744]

Deaucilion lmao

[@Dreamer88keys]

Mike Tank Brown ll Russell about to drop 35-40

[@svenmcsven9540]

Mike Tank Brown ll please go to every game this year🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@dezscott1978]

I can't wait for dlo to play the Lakers

[@danimalplanimal]

being a "willing passer" is not "a throwback"

[@ryanhayes1778]

Skip just said that Phoenix was playing hard against the lakers... yeah right

[@Jam2tech]

After 11/15 I don't want about this man again