How Crazed Parents Scammed Their Kids Into College

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The Atlantic

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Some parents will stop at nothing to get their kids into highly selective colleges and universities. In this episode of The Idea File, Atlantic staff writer Adam Harris investigates the American fixation on the Ivy League that led to the 2019 college-admissions scandal.
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@AdamHSays
@AdamHSays 4 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone! I'm Adam. Hope you enjoyed the episode. What questions do you have about college admissions scandals or higher education? Post your comments below and I’ll be around to answer them throughout the day!
@IllyCrystal
@IllyCrystal 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't this de-value a diploma from some of these schools? Is there a way to recognize schools that are doing a better job of safeguarding against this?
@AdamHSays
@AdamHSays 4 жыл бұрын
@@IllyCrystal Thanks for watching! I don't know that it devalues the degree from these institutions, but the prestige factor of acceptance to the schools does create a sort of perverse incentive to traffic in this sort of behavior. Most admissions officers are strapped for time in reviewing applications, but they do try to catch bad behavior and prevent it. However, it's difficult to catch it all. I actually spoke with the admissions dean at Johns Hopkins last month about how they try to prevent this sort of fraud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGbaoq1prMpjo7M
@atplays0758
@atplays0758 4 жыл бұрын
I think the school system has to be changed because it was set up for factory work what changes do you think they should change
@markfields1665
@markfields1665 4 жыл бұрын
Adam - I attended Southern Connecticut State University (SCSU) which is around 3 miles from Yale. I will never for get what a professor said during a lecture in the logic class I was taking. You see, she taught at Yale and SCSU. Her comment was “You are better students than those at Yale. You come her to learn. They attend out of entitlement. Hence you are more intelligent”. Of course not. However it goes to show that just because someone attended an Ivy League school does mean they are more intelligent than others.
@chiboy-zjr2067
@chiboy-zjr2067 4 жыл бұрын
@adamharris your publication is a very racist very segregated very segregationist type of publication. I am a black conservative and a supporter of the current President, and we are deep (black conservatives that is).you guys want to keep things invited down a racial line will listen the people who support the president are all kinds of Americans not what you and your leftist ideals wants us to be: segregated by race through our thinking. The thing is President Trump United us. that's why you have black conservatives Hispanic conservatives Asian conservatives Indian conservative because we understand that we are no longer in bondage and on the Democratic plantation. This publication is as partisan as it is racist and that shitt runs deep! but like anybody that you probably run into who is a support of the president I'm so willing to have a conversation about this that's why I tagged you with his comment. so please let everyone know at the Atlantic that there are sensible conservative black Americans that are not dumb enough anymore to fall for trap. Dr. Martin Luther King jr. Once said Don't judge me by the color of my skin but by the content of my character (paraphrased).but you guys in the media have been baiting and switching things for a very long time and now we all just people by the content of their color instead of their character.
@hshuemaker
@hshuemaker 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe parents are trying to give up guardianship to get their kids' financial aid! Feels insulting to people like me who were actually in the foster care system & grew up without their parents.
@dokupuffs242
@dokupuffs242 4 жыл бұрын
Stop believing what the media tells you and do research on your own, you will be disgusted when you find out how much you are lied to.
@dokupuffs242
@dokupuffs242 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wait did I just reply to a bot farm? my bad.
@VulcanicsPlayGround
@VulcanicsPlayGround 4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@WhoAmIHmmm
@WhoAmIHmmm 5 ай бұрын
​@@dokupuffs242 could you elaborate?
@o0Avalon0o
@o0Avalon0o 4 жыл бұрын
*I hadn't seen my parents since I was a middle schooler, but I wasn't allowed financial aide because they were still claiming me on their taxes. This system is so disgustingly broken.*
@xelefonte
@xelefonte 4 жыл бұрын
You misspelled aid.
@mikeymladi9279
@mikeymladi9279 3 жыл бұрын
All they care is money.
@k.g.8755
@k.g.8755 3 жыл бұрын
@@xelefonte May have, but aide is still a similar enough word for you to get it.
@Crypt0_7377
@Crypt0_7377 3 жыл бұрын
Damm your a youtube user veteran
@ApollozCul
@ApollozCul 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I’m so sorry for you hope your doing awesome Rn because you need too because you are awesome
@Housewarmin
@Housewarmin 4 жыл бұрын
The best point made, is the hype around getting accepted into these college- scamming, studying, and bullying their way in. but can students actually graduate with a degree???
@AdamHSays
@AdamHSays 4 жыл бұрын
There's an old saying that the hardest part of highly selective colleges is getting in-even though some students have pushed back on that (see: www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/5/25/getting-in-is-the-hardest-part/). Still, the institutions have remarkably high retention and graduation rates; that's why there's often so much emphasis from parents on getting their children into these colleges in the first place.
@dionnaly7186
@dionnaly7186 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure they pay their way for a diploma
@macroxela
@macroxela 4 жыл бұрын
You should also do a video on how "Ivy League Fever" makes universities hire only Ivy League graduates as professors, making the already oversaturated PhD market even worse.
@CelticKitty
@CelticKitty 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine having the audacity to take money for financial aid away from kids who genuinely need it because you have the money but don’t feel like paying..
@tealmer3528
@tealmer3528 2 жыл бұрын
It's not exactly like that, a lot of these schools have endowments for financial aid far larger than the amount they actually need to give out, so they really aren't taking it from someone else, everyone is still getting it. That's just how endowments work.
@jannetteberends8730
@jannetteberends8730 4 жыл бұрын
There is a waste in this system. While the Ivy League universities are in the world top ten, the academic productivity (papers and dissertations) of the US is very low. Switzerland scores the highest production has only one university in the top 25. Somehow this system of elite universities is not very efficient.
@rjeefamily926
@rjeefamily926 4 жыл бұрын
Well if you are going to a school to get an education I wouldn't want to worry too much about the quantity of papers published but rather the quality of the education there. That is why people come from around the world to places like Dartmouth and Yale, because although they might produce fewer papers, the teaching faculty is unsurpassed and the Liberal arts curriculum of American Universities is highly sought after.
@platypiisaweirdword
@platypiisaweirdword 4 жыл бұрын
I would much rather go to a school for my undergraduate degree that's known for the quality of education, not the volume of papers published.
@johnjordan3552
@johnjordan3552 3 жыл бұрын
why does the number of papers published papers matter?
@silvasilvasilva
@silvasilvasilva 4 жыл бұрын
Great story, Adam! I am not even American but I asked myself the same question: why can't people see a way foward outside Ivy League universities? Thanks for the balanced view on this issue.
@AdamHSays
@AdamHSays 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Until there is a broader national conversation about the purpose of higher education-whether it's an personal good that exists confers some sort of status for individuals or whether it's a public good that benefits society-it's likely that the people will continue to lionize the prestige the Ivies represent.
@CIARUNSITE
@CIARUNSITE 4 жыл бұрын
Crazed? They didn't even think twice about it since buying your place in society is simply accepted as the way of life in our country. The only crazy part is they were actually punished.
@ninaphan7196
@ninaphan7196 3 жыл бұрын
i wish that all schools were just the same, like if kids were getting the same education no matter where they went (similar to finland). it’s just sad in my opinion that our government would rather have these schools making money than an intelligent generation being raised
@hamster7294
@hamster7294 4 жыл бұрын
My sister had a high school classmate where her parents divorced just so she could get a scholarship
@SuburbanSavage
@SuburbanSavage 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a lot of people who did that too!
@jayfawn8478
@jayfawn8478 4 жыл бұрын
short answer: privileged and social status
@indigo3589
@indigo3589 4 жыл бұрын
We don't have that much elitism regarding universities in Germany. Most universities are on a similar level of quality and therefore it doesn't matter where you went to university.
@kaeg.7800
@kaeg.7800 4 жыл бұрын
That's my biggest problem with higher education in America. It's divided up so much that certain schools get more money than others (which allows for researching, amenities for students, etc). Its insane and eventually it'll cause bigger problems down the line
@MonoVideo93
@MonoVideo93 4 жыл бұрын
However, not even one University in Germany can hold a candle to an ivy league school.
@mattitude4464
@mattitude4464 4 жыл бұрын
On a research level though the European Universities aren't competitive with Japanese and American schools though. Mostly due to funding
@happeedaze1
@happeedaze1 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's like that in Canada too but things could have changed. I was encouraged to go to a university in a huge city far from home but I opted for a small city known as being a university and college city at the time. I'm glad I made that choice. I got a great education. That was 25 years ago now though so it could have changed.
@kaunas888
@kaunas888 4 жыл бұрын
The price keeps going up and the quality of education keeps going down.
@skirtonbear1
@skirtonbear1 4 жыл бұрын
This wasn’t about “How,” but about why.
@TheJiamy
@TheJiamy 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when the scandal happened and i remember being surprised that it was illegal for rich people to do that, because obviously rich people just buy their way into colleges. I didn’t even question that it happened or its legality.
@canofpepsicola3031
@canofpepsicola3031 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine forcing your kid to get into university and telling them to pay for themselves
@happeedaze1
@happeedaze1 4 жыл бұрын
I got a great post secondary education in a small cities here in Canada. I was able to go to college and university. I worked hard and graduated with two degrees from university. I didn't care about the popularity of the institution. I cared about passing my courses not what society thought about. It was a great experience. I had no help from family but was fortunate to be a sponsored student. When I was done my education, I worked for my community in non profits and volunteered for equal time that I was sponsored which was 8 years. I wanted to give back what I had received. It's so different here in Canada compared to the USA.
@pavlovsworld9122
@pavlovsworld9122 4 жыл бұрын
You do realise that being "elite" is an attitude right? Therefore, u can be poor and elitist.
@sonetagu1337
@sonetagu1337 4 жыл бұрын
Hint: dont get a degree, but study hard. The parents will be: confused or angered.
@kaunas888
@kaunas888 4 жыл бұрын
A study showed that those who could get into Harvard but instead chose a different path in the end became as successful as those who graduated from Harvard. A Harvard degree may get on in the door, but it does not guarantee success.
@theaissatou
@theaissatou 4 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in seeing the different ways that students get into college, that are scammy, but are not usually considered to be a scam. For example, boarding school students whose parents donate to universities the year before their kids are applying to increase their chances of getting in and how colleges will often accept these students but make them take a gap year in order to maintain high GPA and SAT score averages on paper. Also just the way that Ivy League schools and elite boarding schools have such a close relationship and are essentially a funnel into each other.
@platypiisaweirdword
@platypiisaweirdword 4 жыл бұрын
The very fact that college applications ask if you have a blood relation to an alumnus is really weird to me. How is that not the definition of nepotism?
@j22ton
@j22ton 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t even need to go got college to be successful, if you just want an education your better off attending a Community College. You can’t bet your life success on just college alone.
@lucianmacandrew1001
@lucianmacandrew1001 4 жыл бұрын
It does help a lot though. I got a good job the same day I got my master.
@jamesog8802
@jamesog8802 4 жыл бұрын
More people got successful going to a good college than not going. The odds are in your favour for higher future earnings. Unless you have an ironclad business plan or something of that nature you should be in school.
@andy0995
@andy0995 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Indonesia too. Where our parents force us to be a Doctor, enter University of Indonesia, University of Gajah Mada, Udayana, etc. But they never ask us what major or University we want to.
@BuzzLiteBeer
@BuzzLiteBeer 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's more about exclusivity and social capital than anything else. Rewarding those with merit becomes an after thought. I've always been against the idea of Ivy League schools and personally chose not to apply to any on principal. I would encourage any gifted person to avoid those schools and save that money for more productive and meaningful pursuits while attending a reputable state institution (although those are starting to look like elite private schools as well). I think it's poetic justice that these kids who are now going to these elite schools may face scrutiny for how they got in or were able to afford it. 43% of Harvard admits for example are on athletic scholarship or legacy. You bet I'd be suspicious of an Ivy league grad.
@richardxr-huang
@richardxr-huang 4 жыл бұрын
1:50 professional swimmers belly flop
@nadineebada6557
@nadineebada6557 4 жыл бұрын
bahahaahhahha, I can't believe I didn't notice this
@DeViceCrimsin_
@DeViceCrimsin_ 4 жыл бұрын
Pressuring your kid to go to school. Telling them you won't support their education at the last minute. Then lying about and denying your behavior is also pretty fucked up and abusive ...
@pavlovsworld9122
@pavlovsworld9122 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Gov should stop subsidizing student loans thereby decentivising tuition increases.
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
oh, but that'd be like repealing the Federal Reserve act: it'd ruin the "system."
@moahammad1mohammad
@moahammad1mohammad 4 жыл бұрын
Parents: You need to go into college. Also parents: I'M GETTING YOU INTO COLLEGE NO MATTER WHAT
@cyanide_crow7970
@cyanide_crow7970 4 жыл бұрын
....which is why I'm just gonna chill over here. In my art class.
@c-a-t-entertinment7075
@c-a-t-entertinment7075 3 жыл бұрын
That’s better than graduating under ivy with huge student loans and not knowing what to do next.
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this video was going to be about how parents scammed their kids by convincing them that going to college was somehow ultra-necessary for success in life and totally wouldn't at all make them a debt slave with no societal mobility nor assets.
@nejx8711
@nejx8711 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why, but when she said that noone knows where the name “Ivyleague” comes from, but that it was most likely from the roman numeral for 4 (IV) I honestly cracked a smile cuz I’ll be damned if that sort of lack of understanding of other cultures and just taking a symbol for what it looks like instead of what it actually means isn’t the most american thing out there😂😂😂
@bosongod2830
@bosongod2830 2 жыл бұрын
It's also due to the fact that big corporations only want big university passouts to work a job there. Their first criteria is the university, not the skills required for the job.
@summerscoming123
@summerscoming123 4 жыл бұрын
The focus of success is on getting in - so true!
@GarrettEderer
@GarrettEderer 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the very last quote about it not being about just going to college, but to nurture you brain and ideas you'll have the rest of your life. It reminds me about what Einstein said about the imagination being so important.
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 4 жыл бұрын
They gamed the system. I’m shocked😂
@workbased683
@workbased683 4 жыл бұрын
As an employer (in the UK) I've found that those that have been to higher regarded institutions aren't much better and maybe have a slightly lower work ethic.
@Zayden.
@Zayden. 4 жыл бұрын
#capitalism. Everything is bought and sold. Every single thing becomes subsumed by market forces.
@johnclayton4946
@johnclayton4946 4 жыл бұрын
Money is KING! That's America and The World For You!
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob 4 жыл бұрын
Glorious, really.
@kennethbounds6696
@kennethbounds6696 4 жыл бұрын
I left UT Austin because of the unethical inter workings of the university. Quite disappointing
@Jennie-bl3gi
@Jennie-bl3gi 4 жыл бұрын
Could you explain because I applied to UT and plan on going there. Id love to hear your side :)
@kennethbounds6696
@kennethbounds6696 4 жыл бұрын
Jennifer I could write a book with all of the negative experiences I had there, but the prime example I’m comfortable sharing was professors responding to other students questions with “wow that was a fucking stupid question” and returning to lecture. Not everyone has a bad time there, and you might not, but it certainly was not a place I wanted to be a part of. Best of luck
@mariecherement3834
@mariecherement3834 2 жыл бұрын
So why couldn't these parents let their kids just apply themselves to many colleges so the kids could find out for THEMSELVES what possible courses of study they would be most comfortable in, based on their previous High School performance? Would that make the most sense for their kids in the long run? Isn't that what most kids do?
@mariecherement3834
@mariecherement3834 2 жыл бұрын
What is the point in pressuring children to fit into some predetermined "mold" according to the "educrats" who run these"so called elite"colleges?
@The_DC_Kid
@The_DC_Kid 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing that's going to come of this expose is that "royalty" parents will have to figure out how to get around any pesky, new regulations. But that's what lawyers are for. Laughlin will be hailed as a martyr among her group when she gets out of luxury prison (those that allow you to pay for your "imprisonment" in a motel with a 12' chain link fence, and you repay your debt to society through making 2 or 3 lanyards a day, and your fellow inmates are all wealthy and/or connected persons).
@KittySnicker
@KittySnicker 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but my law professors who had went to Harvard Law School were the least organized.
@kaunas888
@kaunas888 4 жыл бұрын
My time at college was basically high school extended. I got a decent education but nothing extraordinary or life transforming.
@errhka
@errhka 4 жыл бұрын
It's better to be poor to apply to an ivy league than it is to be middle class - you get free tuition if your parents don't make enough money. But everyone else is left scrambling over the rest. I just went to a UC and saved tons. Those who go to CalStates saved even more
@hryank33
@hryank33 4 жыл бұрын
Errhka But if you indicate of needing financial assistance, your chance of getting in would be lower. Despite most schools claiming to be needs blind.
@hotmojoe2483
@hotmojoe2483 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I just noticed that first b-roll shot of the undergraduate admissions sign is my uni! Go Argos!
@thatcopenguy
@thatcopenguy 4 жыл бұрын
Me, an international student in Germany : I'm in the top 2 (?) College for Mechanical Engineering and my tuition is $300 😂
@buffbons
@buffbons 4 жыл бұрын
speaking of ut austin, my sister got capped from there, but she told me another person who had failing grades got in. i do go to a school filled with rich kids, so im wondering if this situation has appeared again. maybe the guy had a good football thing going, but arent you supposed to have passing grades to even participate?
@tomasmillen
@tomasmillen 4 жыл бұрын
I applied to Harvard this year, I wasn’t admitted and I thought nothing of it. I then figured out that that the extremely rich girl in my year, paid someone not to admit me. I don’t mind anymore it’s one University.
@SamG-tw2iz
@SamG-tw2iz 3 жыл бұрын
This is kinda late tho haha but that’s awful that people are so jealous they think of doing something like that! Glad u don’t care tho , I guess ur right it’s only on university.
@tomasmillen
@tomasmillen 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamG-tw2iz Yea.
@jeaikafinch
@jeaikafinch 4 жыл бұрын
Middle and low income families don't even consider ivy league schools because we could never afford it. It's heartbreaking but reality. I wanted to go to Notre Dame but I had no way to pay. I went to a community college and student loans are killing me. The reality people who HAVE the money to attend these ivy league schools is that segregation is real and everywhere still to this day, why do you think they coined the phrase, "white privilege." Think about it, if there was no such this as white privilege then why do schools have slots saved for "minority" students? Yes, the truth hurts but it is the truth. I learned that at 7 years old!
@YueRain
@YueRain 4 жыл бұрын
this happens in my country too. in the end it is less than 1% of kids from low income family to go into university. some parents are just determine to get their way into finiancial aids and their kids into uni even if the kids do not meet the requirement.
@mickeyrube6623
@mickeyrube6623 4 жыл бұрын
“So did I go to Ivy League college.” Uh...you sure about that?
@Alice-ez7ez
@Alice-ez7ez 4 жыл бұрын
this is why I'm so glad I'm in Scotland where there isn't as much of a pressure to go to a university, and I can do a cadetship.
@lindablunt8109
@lindablunt8109 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused...Even if parents spent millions to get their kids into college.. What GPA would the kids carry if they are not qualified ???
@melialin2889
@melialin2889 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's very normal, half of the kids in Harvard got in because of their parents. Whether they donated or just has a very important position in the goverment.
@SuburbanSavage
@SuburbanSavage 3 жыл бұрын
Companies boast where their employees went to college. I didn't get to go to college, but I learned on the job about insurance. I have had to train a few college graduates about how insurance laws work, only to find out that they will be making a 6 figure income, and while I was technically their supervisor, I made $10 an hour. Four of them had art history degrees, and another one had a degree in Sanskrit. I couldn't even say anything when they took 2 hour lunch breaks because I was not allowed to take breaks, because the phones must be manned. I eventually got fired because I didn't go to work because there was a blizzard and the governor called a state of emergency. My boss argued with my state's department of labor that the rules did not apply to him since he was wealthy, and he won. I was denied unemployment benefits because my boss was too wealthy and I owed him because I did not ask him for permission to get pregnant. He claimed that I should've allowed him to sell the baby since white baby boys are the gold standard in private adoptions, and he was willing to give me 10% of the sale of my own child. Again, the department of labor said that I was being unreasonable in my desire to keep my baby, when he would have been better off with "better educated, better homes and better looking parents" than my husband and I could be.
@djtempest0
@djtempest0 Жыл бұрын
:( That's sad.
@rjeefamily926
@rjeefamily926 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 Dartmouth out here showing them up even with 1/2 to 1/4 the class size!
@alexrichardson5731
@alexrichardson5731 4 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump was admitted as a student to the Wharton School of Business because his brother knew an employee that worked in the attendance office. Wealthy parents make huge donations to Ivy League Universities so their children will be accepted as student which also takes a place away from a student that earn a high grande point average in high school and middle school that earned high ACT and SAT test scores. Also 40% of students that obtain a college degree find employment that doesn't require the degree they obtained. With the Varsity Blues College Admission Scandal many of the parents worked for huge corporations in upper management jobs that required them to have a college degree. Those parents knew they was lacking good morals trying to cheat their children's way in to an elite university. William Rick Singer had 3 college admission consulting businesses since 1992 and was considered to be shady in the 1990s.
@newgoliard6059
@newgoliard6059 4 жыл бұрын
@4:45 I went to Texas State University like LBJ and the only thing I learned was how to drink during Wurstfest, Czhilispiel, Sigma Chi fight night, Nephews and The Green Parrot.
@natalie9884
@natalie9884 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, thank youuuu!
@progoldsmith
@progoldsmith 4 жыл бұрын
College is overrated and overpriced.
@mwj5368
@mwj5368 4 жыл бұрын
A sad system to learn of the degree of peer pressure and corruption to attend, and sad when he said one of the colleges was so great because LBJ was a student there...
@The_Horizon
@The_Horizon 2 жыл бұрын
real life is pay to win
@jomy10-games
@jomy10-games 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm happy with Belgium's school system.
@nataliebrown8971
@nataliebrown8971 4 жыл бұрын
My mom went to school there and loved it. It’s a decent place to get a good schooling.
@cami-xq2lz
@cami-xq2lz 3 жыл бұрын
Is funny the fact that in Argentina, a third world nation, the universities with bad reputation are the private ones, and the publics ones have the best opinions and future. Even, in the international context.
@notthedoctor8621
@notthedoctor8621 3 жыл бұрын
Rich celebrity kids don't even need a degree!!
@tomjeff1743
@tomjeff1743 3 жыл бұрын
For most, college is a huge waste of time and money. Cost $200k+ over 4 years. Put that into a mutual fund and then get a trades job.
@marshmellowmoon7990
@marshmellowmoon7990 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that Iv league was short for Ivory, as in the very expensive material that is associated with being wealthy Does this make me smart or dumb for thinking this (I mean it is a connection that makes sense, but it is also not at all close to what it came from)
@golf2323
@golf2323 3 жыл бұрын
1:50 what a painful dive that was
@northernbrother1258
@northernbrother1258 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Ivey League referred to the ivey covered buildings...no???
@dominictonisson1946
@dominictonisson1946 4 жыл бұрын
1:49 this jump triggered me sooo much
@tomjeff1743
@tomjeff1743 3 жыл бұрын
The affirmative action dilemma
@Shay45
@Shay45 4 жыл бұрын
My family is not rich at all and I didn’t even qualify for financial aid
@Sparsh011
@Sparsh011 Жыл бұрын
everyone thinks grades and test scores are the only thing that matters in life
@JimmyJamesJ
@JimmyJamesJ 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid people more interested in the name on the gate than their children getting an education. Let everyone in, fail 90% out in the first year. Let those who work the hardest survive. The name of the institution on your degree don't mean a damn thing in the real world. What matters is your drive and work ethic. I studied engineering at a Canadian university where we lost 25% in the first year and another 25% in the next two to three years. Only 50% of those who started graduated with a degree. Only the truly committed made it out alive, the rest were chewed up and spit out by high standards and the harsh reality of life. That's what a true education is.
@tonymorena404
@tonymorena404 4 жыл бұрын
....'even the wealthy feel the pinch'....no sale
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather not go to college and immediately enter a job you can although you have no college education; you get placed in factories tho
@ziggylayneable
@ziggylayneable 4 жыл бұрын
I went to Catholic School. Early 1980s. Graduated in 87. In Catholic school we did not change classes between periods. For 13 years I spent all day with the same kids.9 of the other men for my class went to Princeton.I was a heroin junkie by 19. Oops. Many of my former classmates are law enforcement and politicians in my local. I've been clean for 15 years. They occasionally run inte, we speak and they are ivy league.I'm ivy abandominium league. They know my history. They respect me. I respect them and we get along fine. Yes I regret not getting what I was meant for, but it was my own stupid teenage fault. I've been clean for a very long time. These people have known me my whole life they know I'm not a stupid person. They know that because of a car accident I developed opiate addiction. They probably pity me. I don't need their pity I just want their respect.and I can see in their eyes that some of them still do and some of them don't.
@hellohowareyou9745
@hellohowareyou9745 4 жыл бұрын
I completely understand your points around the necessity of not abusing systems for lower privileged people, but the counter to that is not lowering admissions standards, it's actually doing background checks, forcing these colleges to use the abysmally high tuition fees for actual good. Colleges need to be selective so the people in those colleges can thrive in an environment with people who are at their level. Think about it this way: colleges are not for education; they aren't for getting a degree; they are especially not for people who already have plans, connections, and possibly a business. Instead, colleges are for connections. Taking away the selectivity from colleges removes the chance to gather up *GENERALLY* qualified individuals to make connections. Honestly, assuming you had extensive knowledge in a particular area, would you rather work in said area with randomly assorted people who may or may not be qualified or with individuals who were preselected to be generally more your level? Obvious decision there. It depends how you think about it; there are two sides to every "solution." Sorry for ranting but I find it important for people to think more openly.
@yakacm
@yakacm 4 жыл бұрын
I thought affirmative action was good, or is it only a good thing when it's used to get underqualified black kids in to a college? It has to make you stop and wonder is there actually any kids at good schools in America who are there on merit at all anymore? When these places stop being meritocracies for whatever reason, then folk are actually devaluing the thing they are so desperate to attain, and maybe the kid who should have went in their place, the kid who was most qualified, won't get the education they were supposed to have had and won't make that great invention that may have saved lives or made our lives easier.
@tongdawu2041
@tongdawu2041 4 жыл бұрын
1:50 painful to watch as a swimmer
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooooof I see what you mean lol
@mulsanne1
@mulsanne1 4 жыл бұрын
This music is the Motorsport Manager music
@thesuitshow9944
@thesuitshow9944 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why people care so much. I went to a very ‘wanted’ I guess secondary school and some people acted like it was the end of the world. It’s not. I ended up going but my friends wen to other places and we all turned out fine.
@judgedbytime
@judgedbytime 4 жыл бұрын
Is it the parents' fault they think this is necessary? Prolly not, imo.
@marksoberay2318
@marksoberay2318 4 жыл бұрын
This is why we need nationalized tests for most degrees. Cut the crap see who knows the most.
@PS987654321PS
@PS987654321PS 4 жыл бұрын
Capitalism equals corruption.
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob 4 жыл бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@joeyjay1662
@joeyjay1662 4 жыл бұрын
There Are Many More Successful People From "Non-Ivy League" Schools Than From Them!!--Graduating From One These First Schools Of Higher Learning ONLY Open The Door.--It's What One Does Afterwards With Their Advanced Education. The Cost Of Schooling Doesn't Make That Particular School Better Than Any Other.--Just Stating The Facts As I See Them...!!
@Cbgart
@Cbgart 4 жыл бұрын
I particularly find the American education system a joke. Here in Brazil the best universities are the public ones, which are highly competitive but 100% free. Most of the private ones suck (compared to the public ones... But some really do suck.) except for a select few very expensive ones that, besides the traditional courses, offers specific courses that the public ones haven't caught up on yet, the more technological ones or those that have a lot to do with the internet... the very new ones... but they are also adding those too. The American system to me just looks like a huge cattle auction where they sell the fattest education to the highest bidder.
@alcyonecrucis
@alcyonecrucis 4 жыл бұрын
I think that ivy from I-V etymology is pretty impossible... IV is read “four” anyway.
@situated4
@situated4 4 жыл бұрын
Donate a building or fund a chair, get your mediocre rich kid accepted regardless.
@scottgould6590
@scottgould6590 2 жыл бұрын
College is so overrated dude. Why, after I barely finished high school, like I didnt even apply. I told my old man I wuz gonna make a career selling Amway. Well I wasnt successful at it the first time. But I worked hard and still believe Imma gonna make it. So watch out world, cuz here I come lmao.
@aditya3977
@aditya3977 4 жыл бұрын
If you invent a religion and then start preaching it to people and see how many are ready to join your religion, you can then ask them to fund your house. Inventing and preaching religion has never been this easy today. You can design your own kind of God and the supernatural spiritual essence or traditions of your religion. Keep some symbolic rituals and then thru social media neatly pursuade people to follow your religion. This way you can fund your dream home by helping people find good religion to follow in their life.😊✌️ Comment below your thoughts 👇
@miss_daisy4925
@miss_daisy4925 4 жыл бұрын
How tf did trump get into an ivy leage school?!
@xboxfan01
@xboxfan01 4 жыл бұрын
Waste of money!
@jiaxingli9178
@jiaxingli9178 4 жыл бұрын
time and health
@AselflimitedcapitalisemW0mamon
@AselflimitedcapitalisemW0mamon 4 жыл бұрын
When governments come in to villages with their ivy league and public schools to train up & educate up the fellowvillagers to be efficient at generating more money for their self empowering systems of fellow man control. And we we are taught to willingly participate in capitalism. That's when the masses ensure their own slavery. By the toil and sweat of their own brow. When governments come in with their ivy league and public schools to educate the fellow villagers to be efficient at generating money. The climate changes a little more & The Earth's natural Provisions systems and self-regenerating balance - dies a little further. It's not so much climate change that we need to worry about. It's the educated in & trained in - money generation systems which are the catalist for & the cause of climate change which we need to worry about. Free of charge food and building materials are supplied by Nature. Mankind's plastic lifestyle requires much more over-complicated investment. It might even go so far as to cost us humanities existence on the face of the Earth. Although God's Great Nature does have a way of self-correcting - if infestations start taking over natural systems - "too excess". Maybe that's why Somwhat automatic "Population Corrections" tend to eventually happen, through the introduction of Wars by way of the superior intellect of an Over-lording Capitalistic Leader led hierarchy of the wealthy type of mankind's - capitalistic societies. Which keep depleting and poisoning the natural provision systems which used to be the all encompassing wealth and health of all of Humanity on the face of this Earth. Instead of mass population Leaders; there used to be wise and and experienced knowledge-sharing fellow villagers providing guidance for Fellow-villager populations. But then money powerd leaders came in and imposed their overloading money powered methods which empower the capitalists with the money power to purchase all the Weaponery to put an end to those fellow villager type people. And as they did. It was then the world started heading "climatically" - for where it is now - in a handbasket - of money-making populations. It may not be too late to get things back in balance but we would need to give up the money powerd way of life - ((and all the corporations produced THINGS and money powered lifestyles)) which keep everyone enslaved to serving in the Elites money generation systems - which are designed to keep us all addicted to the convience of believing in money - for conveniently providing all our needs in life. Turns out such a belief and such a convenience wasn't so convenient at all. Once you see the big picture & the dismal worldwide future results. Now that we have the internet and websites we can collaborate and volunteer to help each other have enough food and shelter materials without need for big corporations which enslave us to money generation systems. Find fellow villager on FB to find out how. I've started the website but it needs more volunteers to succeed in proving that it's not "quite yet" too late. In this video it's revealed, How an intellect and money worshipping mankind has duped his lesser over educated fellow man into slaving their lives away for the elites money generation systems which Ensure their own slavery to such systems - by the toil and sweat of their own brow.
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob 4 жыл бұрын
Fellow Villager Climate change Repairman Capitalist economies will always rule the world because it is head and shoulders better than every single other economic system. Cry about it all you want :)
@AselflimitedcapitalisemW0mamon
@AselflimitedcapitalisemW0mamon 4 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob apparently it's "right up the alley" with your system of fellow man controlling money empowered domination hierarchy. It's just a little uncalled for - and a bit uncomfortable for me. But I guess it hasn't killed too many people as far as you're concerned.
@decoded1mrunknown747
@decoded1mrunknown747 3 жыл бұрын
keep an exam like jee , problem solved
@oOCentralSunOo
@oOCentralSunOo 4 жыл бұрын
Dive deeper or don't bother making a video imho.
@nilakshandissanayake1379
@nilakshandissanayake1379 4 жыл бұрын
Colleges are over rated
@overthegardenwall5128
@overthegardenwall5128 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone that has a degree is intelligent.
@drivenbyrage5710
@drivenbyrage5710 4 жыл бұрын
Monetary discrimination is wrong. The more a person is educated, the more they contribute to society. It should be considered an investment in humanity....and free to all.
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob
@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob 4 жыл бұрын
DrivenByRage We do not nor will we EVER live in a socialist country. Gtfo w that bullshit. You can go get a FREE job application.
@elinasarkisian5134
@elinasarkisian5134 4 жыл бұрын
I cheated on my high school diploma so I can only imagine. College your hiring dummies . I never studied a day in my life and everyone’s like congratulations I’m like I cheated the whole time .
@fourtunes9647
@fourtunes9647 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful what you write unanonymously in the Internet, you never know who reads it all.
@eatingcereal5646
@eatingcereal5646 4 жыл бұрын
You don't deserve it.
@ferandositindaon8
@ferandositindaon8 4 жыл бұрын
*Me when i heard that people was trying to bribe to get in* : why are u wasting time and money in school the school system is brokE ;^;
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