How Dangerous Is a £10 Axle Stand? - Durability Test

[@Drivetribe]

So the Cogs chose correctly! Stream Richard Hammond’s Workshop now on discovery+ 👉 bit.ly/Discovery-24-H2-YT

[@declanmooney3126]

I'm happy that the smallest Cog started back up

[@WW-wf8tu]

@@declanmooney3126 Was not aware it closed down.

[@thesunreport]

It's not just about the weight test though. It's no use having the strongest one if it doesn't reach the thing you're supporting. The most expensive one was obviously for a higher reach use.

[@bradley8187]

It would be pretty cool if we could watch Hammonds garage on discovery plus in the USA you know the place where probably 80% of your audience lives

[@declanmooney3126]

@@WW-wf8tu it didn’t close down i’m just saying I’m happy that they started filming this year

[@dnsp13]

He said "we're protected, we got glasses on" 😭

[@lukepeeters5178]

deffo sarcasm haha

[@dominicdejager7320]

to be fair, the cheap stand withstood more than the weight of an average vehicle that an at home mechanic would be servicing..

[@ed_goblin]

No kidding. In fact didn't they say 10 tons? Rated for 3, withstood 10? That's a lot of bang for the buck.

[@jjmmjj9999]

Bought 1 of those exact ones to do a clutch on my sisters car. The reason for just 1 was, my orignal stand I'd lost the pin. I didn't have high hopes for it being flimsy and folding etc but it held the car overnight I put the entire car on that stand first just as a test and yeah, no issue. I had the jack on that side too just in case. Very surprised to see it holding 10t though!

[@laszlopolyak4353]

Thats right, I have 6 of those cheap ones in my workshop, they are absolutely fine for regular cars. Only drawbacks of them is their max height, as it usually quite not enough to hold Land Rovers at the chassis, so I have 4 of the bigger ones as well.

[@HydraulicPressChannel]

The thumbnail looks weirdly familiar :D

[@redmondgurney]

And now they’ve changed it! Shame on them for stealing for clicks

[@paulwincott2987]

Shame on them!

[@HA05GER]

The legend the OG is here 🎉

[@colingale]

you missed the opportunity to test the common brit mechanics stand "pile 'o' bricks an wood"

[@richardwallam2207]

Wow. I don't know what to say... I work on hydraulic presses for an oil and gas company. Regularly up to 250 tonne . Your video was the most scary thing I have ever viewed on your channel. Safety glasses were the least of your problems. Loved every minute, but please, not again. ❤❤❤

[@fisherengineering]

The only time in recent history that I think health and safety has NOT gone too far!

[@MattWeber]

To be fair, watching The Hydralic Press channel and seeing how many things have blasted through their sheilds, there wasnt ENOUGH safety used here lol

[@jels43]

day 904638 of waiting for a v10 miata update

[@aleddavies770]

Thought that was gone ages ago

[@jels43]

@@aleddavies770 is it 🥲

[@Scuba_Bro]

You mean a V10 engine with a tires and a seat? 😂

[@jels43]

@@Scuba_Bro 💀 💀💀

[@tonytasker489]

You're very impatient aren't you. 😂

[@Rick-vm8bl]

Why have you used a thumbnail from the hydraulic press channel? It's got almost 10 million viewers, did you think nobody would notice?

[@damionlee7658]

This video really needed better information, an explanation of what the results really meant, and somebody to stop Mike misusing the word "Rated" 09:14 - Talking about the failure of the £10 stand: "That means it's actually rated to withstand a weight of 10 tonnes" - NO Mike, it absolutely is not rated to withstand 10 tonnes; it failed at that weight. The stand is "Rated" to support 3 tonnes in a pair. It wouldn't matter if it withstood the full 85 tonnes capacity of that press in your test, it still would be "Rated" to support 3 tonnes, spread across a pair of stands. Which leads us to lack of information about a jack stand needing to be used in pairs, not individually. That £10 stand absolutely is not rated to support 3 tonnes; it is rated to support 3 tonnes spread across 2 stands. The safety margins on all jack stands are deliberately huge, because everybody knows that people ignore the rated safety limits of... Well, everything. Given that when you support one end of a vehicle on stands, you are sharing the load with the ground, or a second set of stands, that £10 set is rated to comfortably support a Cybertruck (a tiny bit over 3 tonnes total, or the equivalent of just over 1.5 tonnes per jack stand pair). But based on your test, it could support more than 10 Cybertrucks piled on top of each other, before failing. Everybody looks at those tiny stands, and can't imagine them being strong enough to hold a car. You had an opportunity to inform people and reduce that fear. Unfortunately, you failed to give any constructive information. Somebody else commented that this video was like Drivetribe basically making a "Donut" video, and that you're better than that. I wholehearted agree with them. If we want nonsense and terrible product reviews where more often than not the problem is the presenter not understanding how to use the product, we can go to Donut. Drivetribe needs to stay somewhere we can find accurate information. Have fun, by all means, but don't ruin this channel by racing to the bottom for clicks over quality (exactly like Donut has done).

[@Purple_Banana_69]

Exactly this ^^^

[@DunkDrives]

I was impressed by the cheapo axel stand. I was also a bit disappointed they didn't make much of a deal of it. We've all had to use them in a pinch at one time or another, so it's nice to know that as long as used correctly they're reasonably safe. Lets face it, your average joe bloggs ain't spending 220 on axel stands.

[@derekcable]

​​@@DunkDrives agreed i take a pair of those fold up stands to trackdays just in case I need to raise my 1650kg car up which is miles better than nothing also there not the bulk or don't take up the space of the traditional ones I use at home.

[@Rory_Semple]

Interesting concept and I enjoyed the video, but I feel like you weren’t giving the risk/danger as much respect as needed - You were very lucky with that initial failure/ejection not injuring your filmer…

[@AJB1]

And with the last one not slipping sideways and blowing a hole through the Discovery or them... I don't think a thin sheet of perpex would have slowed that down much if it'd chosen to escape...

[@PJ-om2wq]

One of the most common failure modes is that the concrete floor below the axle stand fails. The strongest one had a nice big flat plate under its base so probably safer for that reason as well.

[@TheReal_JG]

8:27 Proof that the cameraman never dies.

[@Maxwell_Millz]

Literally invincible 💪🏾

[@sianwarwick633]

Could've had slow-mo, but at the end

[@AhmedJacob]

0:50 exactly what happened to redbull at Monza today

[@andyarchitect]

Photoshoping the "Hydraulic Press Channel" press into your thumbnail to get clicks 😮 not cool 😒

[@sparky001]

Health and safety would also like a word with them. lauri has full blown containment/window, while they just stand next to it, especially after watching parts get sent flying.... I don't understand drivetribe thought process.

[@pe8268]

Yeah, they really got me with that one, I was so confused when Mike showed up upon clicking the video... Not cool indeed

[@m0taboy]

True, for moment before watching actual video itself i thought that this is Hydraulic Press Channel video.

[@andyarchitect]

I see that they now updated the thumbnail with a blue background to hide the green electrical cabinets... I guess thats an improvement.

[@TheBaronOG]

They are behind a perspex sheet in front of the landy, how safe that is i dont know

[@jduck1979]

There's an American channel called "Project Farm" that has previously done these kinds of tests, also not forgetting "Hydraulic Press Channel" from Finland.

[@HA05GER]

The hydraulic press channel is in the comments

[@WaechterDerNacht]

Hadrian definitely made the video! "Yeah, you stay infront of me..." "We're protected, we got glasses..." Classic mechanical workshop humour - love it!

[@LoftechUK]

That plastic sheet wouldn’t have done any protection at all.

[@dannysprogis8446]

You didn’t put the secondary pin in on the last expensive stand. You said it didn’t have one but you can clearly see it flying around at the end of the chain when it fails

[@shaneowen1047]

Just googled it and yes you can get a 1 18th scale ford mondeo St

[@JaniOllikainen]

This was terrible to watch, luckily no one got hurt. Maybe you should look how professionals do that and what kind of protection they have.. Eg. Hydraulic Press Channel.

[@HydraulicPressChannel]

I started to laugh when I read this one :D

[@ianroderick3797]

Always one.

[@rainrainwebdesign]

lots more than one !

[@juststeve5542]

85 tons? Is that all? You're not going to intimidate the Hydraulic Press Channel with that!

[@joshua.snyder]

Should have teamed up with Lauri at Hydraulic Press Channel!

[@MartinBalle7]

Did they steel the thumbnail from him?

[@joshua.snyder]

@@MartinBalle7 Looks like it.

[@paulsymons562]

Its Hydraulic Press Channel but ordered from Temu. And not cool stealing their channel header for your thumbnail. Your lack of concern for safety is also worrying.

[@EazyDuz18]

ok karen

[@Klutch58Customs]

But how do they compare to two breeze blocks and a half a rotten railway sleeper?

[@jonokiller]

Yall got very lucky, that is some insane energy being put into those stands.

[@juhva]

Why the thumbnail looks like taken from @HydraulicPressChannel ? Same yellow/black tape. Same green background.

[@smallbutdeadly931]

I liked Project Farm's testing methods better. He tested weight on the jackstand as well as side-to-side stress stability.

[@Maxwell_Millz]

Project farm is a little more scientific with his methods, but ours is more fun. 😅

[@mikej557]

Hammonds workshop could have been massive on youtube. But instead, nobody has ever seen an episode. 😢

[@mrgdpc8300]

If it's going to prevent me from getting squashed by a vehicle that weighs thousands of pounds, I don't think I'm going to go with the cheaper option

[@Maxwell_Millz]

I'd agree with you.

[@g.w.customcreations3534]

The £10 jobs will comfortably hold a LWB sprinter, cos you always use them in pairs. If you need to lift anything heavier, spend more, but the cheapies are more than adequate for 99% of stuff.

[@Maxwell_Millz]

@g.w.customcreations3534 I will never use the foldable style stands. I've seen those bend and break at the leg pins in the past. I'd always opt for the solid, ratchet style stands. Yea they're bigger and heavier, but a lot stronger for not a lot more money.

[@g.w.customcreations3534]

@Maxwell_Millz for the peace of mind, I kinda get that, but I daresay you've had to overload and misuse them to break them.

[@Maxwell_Millz]

@g.w.customcreations3534 nope, I would never overload Jacks or stands. Tbh I always make sure they're the most tonnage I can afford. They just get weak at the leg pins over time and can fail. Also the little leg links at the bottom are only held on with small rivets, so again, they fatigue really easily.

[@AlexKall]

Drivetribe goes Hydraulic Press Channel. I do miss the rally English though and the 300 ton press. Interesting test 👍

[@johumm455]

they have budget for destroying things but not for airplane tickets ??

[@maverick4177]

In the 1980’s and 90’s BBS wheels used to press heated solid centre billet blanks with 6,500 tonne pressing to get the centre weave And that is why the wheels are so strong and expensive

[@BoostedMike2]

should of done Collab with hydraulic press channel

"Should of"?

[@HksF16]

Non native speaker, but i believe it's "should have"

[@micha0001]

Maybe send it next time to Finland to the real HPC 😉

[@SCHTRAM]

How a team of so many people didnt think "Oh we're compressing metal, it might cause pieces to go flying so we need to be out of harms way" is beyond me.

[@dwaynne_way]

8:27 Camera man never dies 💪📹 That stand did better than I thought 😂

[@54mgtf22]

Excellent test of all these stands on Project Farm.

[@akagainesy]

This reminds me of those old videos of things getting crushed or melted or minced. Classic KZbin content

[@MBUncle]

HPC approves this message. You should have called Laurie for this Job! Edit: Using the green background in the thumbnail is a bit clickbaity honestly. I thought it was an HPC collab.

[@Varhaisperuna]

His name is Lauri, not Laurie...

[@ziffer90]

where's that thumbnail pic from? definitely not this video. project farm too did some quite extensive testing on jackstands a while back.

[@johumm455]

Finnish HPC channel ... Lauri&Hanna

[@ziffer90]

@@johumm455 but this here isnt their channel

[@HammerOn-bu7gx]

For crushing the Mustang, you should receive a visit from the Spanish Inquisition.

[@Wilderwolfman]

I love how all the guys at the Cog knew the best one for highest weight, which just goes to show that working around heavy stuff alot you learn real quick what to trust your life with

[@Rich77UK]

Why do i recognise the guy controlling the press? Scrapheap challenge is springing to mind.

[@jd_99]

how is the man defending a jack that started to fail the moment the ram was turned on

[@skruffy79]

Personal safety has left the chat 😂

[@9wowable]

was this really worth a main channel upload? Doesn’t feel like main channel content.

[@lukeduke1212]

So unless you have a car thats more than 10 tons on each corner youre fine with the cheap one. ;)

[@jevdetm3780]

“Velcome to de hydraulic press Canel” Tuday ve are crusing some stuff .

[@IndiBrony]

Disappointed this video didn't start with "Velcome to hidrolic pless channel!" And end with "This hamster is known to get very angry, so ve must deal with it"

[@LeoVillacorte]

The JCB style one, the failure was due to the sheet metal not being welded. That style without the sheet metal welded together or with some kind of reinforcement to keep it from splitting got banned here in the US

[@Rover200Power]

Can someone explain why you need a pair of axle stands with a combined rating of 40 tonnes to work on a car which is going to weigh on average between 1.5 and 2 tonnes? I have a set of Sealey(?) stands which look like the JCBs only blue and rated to 2 tonnes per stand. They cost about £40 and can deal with a 3 tonne Discovery with no problems.

[@bjorngve]

I usually go with some wood slabs. They use wood to support ships and houses. The wiggle factor is my biggest concern.

[@raitshots]

the stands are durable. 2 tons or 5 tons. But there are problems if your car's main bearing structure loses a rigid bracket shelf. The metal is simply rusted. Then it is dangerous to bet on stutem. The supporting structure of your car will invite you. Old cars have it. It should be placed on the shelves of the supporting bridge.

[@HaHa-fd5qj]

A massive press like that only does 85 tonne?

[@We421-d2u]

The first axel stands I had those for 3 years they never let me down

[@robertstahl8835]

There is no way that jackstand could hold 10 ton. They've got something wrong. Even if maybe....the ping that holds the stand snapped way before... That's a failure

[@Bratfalken]

85 tons, that's cute, we run an 1500 ton at work! ;)

[@user-neo71665]

Missed a hell of a chance for an epic road trip and team up with the hydro press channel. My stands are like the 4th one. I built mine because i couldn't find any that would fit my 1987 s10 blazer on 44s. Only difference is there are hairpin clips on the pin to keep it from coming out the shaft by accident when not under load.

[@siimot]

Since my car only weighs under 2 ton the cheap one will hold the car easy then :)

[@southcalder]

My Axle Stands are Lidl specials. But I don’t fully trust them, so I usually stick the wheel I’ve taken off under the sill, so that if it does come crashing down, I’m probably going to be injured, but won’t have the 1.5T weight of the car sitting on me.

[@JamesBlitz00]

jesus chrsit guys. use something stronger than 6mm plexiglass next time lol

[@Lehosoosilla]

I couldnt watch it due the lack of safety. You should stay with the car stuff.

[@iainwells2757]

Th red one you didn’t put the pin in!

[@boriss.861]

Drivetribe Pixies & Elves you can witness the now custom room the Hydraulic Press Channel has built for their experiments!

[@garthor]

I do like a bit of destructive smooshing, but I really wish you could actually read that dial readout to see where the thing actually fail...

[@TheRealEquinox]

Really hoped you partnered with Hydraulic Press Channel. :L

[@RichardMajor86]

An axel stand for the Smallest Cog? Don’t they mostly restore small, old British/European cars? I expect the £10 ones would be best. Nice and small. Light weight. Easy to move around. Why pay for more!?

[@talon262]

Always good to see Hadrian... seems like a good bloke.

[@jkasaunder228]

Would've been cool to see how catastrophic a standard scissor jack that comes with most cars would do. (I've seen them bend by doing things I shouldn't because it's all I had availible)

[@AdamsWorlds]

I used to use a rusty ramp and a rusty old stand for the Discovery TD5. Put the wheel under it but sketchy don't recommend it lol.

[@AFFMotorsport]

Been a Haidren fan since the Scrapheap challenge days.

[@telecomsuk]

I have the smallest ones, but I have surrounded the feet with a triangle of angle iron to stop them sinking in.

[@Abauto84]

I'm amazed how well the £10 one did though that's impressive

[@Philip.Magnusson]

My concern has never been if the stand would succomb to lateral pressure but rather that they slip of the bodywork and topple over.

[@dantheman7370]

Pretty sad , trying to copy the hydraulic press channel

[@geturnorrisout]

Seems abit dangerous

[@simonstucki]

hmm for stuff like that you would really hope the safety factor was at least 5...

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

There are 2 failure points in a stand. 1) The pin or catch when the stand is not in the fully DOWN position. 2) The legs/base when it's in the fully DOWN positions. My guess is stands are going to be rated for at least half their actual weight capacity.

[@ericstoever9577]

Not quite the Hydraulic Press Channel, but fun nonetheless!

[@morganspencer-churchill2136]

£300 for that junk...

[@garyhay6771]

Health and safty nightmate 😂

[@b2tall239]

Plexiglass is your friend....

[@Maxwell_Millz]

There was a massive plexiglass screen between us and the press. Hard to see in the video but it was definitely there 😊

[@b2tall239]

@@Maxwell_Millz Only after the close call with the photographer, yes?? When the tests started, there was no protection....at least that's how it appeared. Anyway, glad everyone is OK.

[@ShotInTheDark]

The reason they fail slowly, because the press is moving slow. Different it was a free weight.

[@jondoesaces]

Mike needs to realise that this channel isn’t all about him…no one cares about your Mondeo that you managed to get restored by using the channel…

[@richdurbin6146]

I was surprised how gracefully the 10£ stand failed.

[@garthor]

How are you guys not doing this with like full cover between the action and the hosts?

[@segoverial]

I dout the problem for most are what they are rated for, more likely improper mounting

[@MrChunkymunky1988]

What was the make/model of the £200 stands? They were impressive

[@DKlegacyRS]

The danger of using axle stands is a bad ground. Tipping over, or the placement on the car sliding off the axle stand.

[@LegitAjit]

Don't get me wrong, love ur content, but this was straight dangerous.

[@BionicRusty]

Boys, Boys! I’m all for H&S being overkill, sometimes, but common sense should never be ignored. I deal with 5,000psi compressed air and have gotta say, due to the unpredictability of the failures, where you’re standing is extremely dangerous. Mike, you should know better.

[@beauthestdane]

We would be happy to watch the show, but not available here in the US still.

[@leebower5544]

Should try a cheap scissor jack, terrifying, it melted in front of me under a Fiesta!

[@MrCube17]

Surely post an amazon affiliate link for the strongest one please..

[@AaronSMcC]

Hadrian is a legend!

[@johumm455]

What tha Faaakkk !? +1 for HPC !

[@Bratfalken]

Obviously never seen the finnish hydraulic press channel and the safetymeasure they have had to increase!

[@Gr33nMamba]

It would be interesting to know what factor of safety the manufacturers went with when deciding their rated tonnage, none of them are going to fail at their advertised value, it sounds like a factor of 4, which is reasonable. Is that regulated?

[@rainrainwebdesign]

Some people are joking about safety but that was flipping shocking - i mean it's crazy to do that - 50s f1 racers had more smarts - the rules of physics - murphys law - men are dumber than women - come on guys - standing anywhere near that thing was insane surely ? ;-)

[@db74ful]

I pick the red one, it gets you far higher from the ground & no car will get near where it failed.