How Dark Souls Turns Motifs Into Music

[@TheMightyGiantDad]

You don't need booger-kid. Your opinions and lore speculations are valued and appreciated.

[@justicew.6106]

what

[@llandynlubs9203]

Good comment but ik m not gonna like it bc I dont want to ruin the 666 likes

[@FellishBeast]

Yeah holy shit that bit he does is so annoying and unnecessary.

[@Heyprinny]

Yeah, that was really annoying whenever he did that.

[@Bophades93]

THANK YOU, I'm enjoying this video and then this annoying unnecessary gag keeps coming back....

[@PhilTruthborne]

Hmm... Yes... I know some of these words

[@TaisanMaverick]

Sir Phil po

[@TaisanMaverick]

Misha Hall p

[@TaisanMaverick]

Misha Hall ppp

[@tokilladaemon]

You should have called this “plin plin plon-explained”

[@misrahul18]

Such a shame

[@Larken42]

Or how to be “filled with nostalgic sorrow”

[@paulvandenberg4969]

I'd just like to add that the entire composition of the Gwyn, Lord of Cinder boss theme uses only the white keys. It's almost like the composition itself fears the Dark, just like Gwyn.

[@27shogun58]

And like my Texan cousins

[@Geocrazygaming]

Are u vaati vidya in disguise

[@KJS988]

Big if true

[@timmytoldrum]

Nice Catch Paul.

[@featheredice]

This simply isn’t true. Have you read the music?

[@lokuzt]

there's something so inherently and unmistakably _sad_ about Gwyn's theme that transcends game mechanics or technical explanation, there's so much in those piano notes that feels like slow crumbling stuff, frost and dust; asphyxiation and a vast grayness... perfect for Dark Souls

[@DreamlessSleepwalker]

Precesely, the one chord throughout around 8 bars may seem to just be bad, but it is just hollow. Like Dark Sould 3.

[@ClaeFace]

It hits even harder for me because of the sheer contrast between the idea of a final boss battle score and the score we're given.

[@Armazillo]

Yes.

[@feihnbuckland5291]

Absolutely right

[@Boobo_000]

I read grayness as gayness

[@leroybiggins7328]

“It’s almost like putting down an old, sick dog.” God damn. That hit way too close to home.

[@realkingofantarctica]

I read the title as “How Dark Souls turns moths into music” and I was like “Yeah. How _does_ Dark Souls turn moths into music?!”

[@randaru1527]

Smough pieces with Havel chest armor in the ending scene? Someone call the fashion police!

[@Zadamanim]

Gotta get that +1 defense.

[@TerryVideoZone]

stacking poise smh scrub strats

[@RatchetandSly]

Randaru HappyHeists Not even his game footage. He didn't give credit to boss fight database, which is where he got the footage.

[@yungmalaria]

it's called being THICC ya casul

[@imaginationnone9297]

are you a casual? ITS CALLED T H I C C AND WANTING TO GIVE THE S U C C

[@TheAthenaum]

Oh, I was going to write a comment about the booger kid segments but turns out you have a super awesome fan base that has said everything I could possibly say way better than I could have said it. I was honestly interested in hearing your thematic ideas on the music, and the booger kid was legitimately annoying because he was censoring my favorite part of the video.

[@cyrpuscacophony8059]

Gwyns fight was without a doubt one of the most emotional final boss fights. You've fought grand monsters, stared down dragons and won the great flames through trial of combat. You've harshed a swamp of poisons and braved a fortress of one thousands traps. You've died over and over, on the verge of losing your humanity. You've traverses the abyss and entered a soft and gentle world within a painting and traversed the palace of the gods. You've killed a dragon . You've experienced such grandeur and you finally reach the kiln of the first flame. The aether surrounds you as you step in, the unresting souls of the knights who died walk aimlessly. You enter this ashen, barren place and a sense of dread over comes you. There's no enemies. Not for a short while, which is odd. You're used to ay least lesser hollows stuck in their insanity, lone and cowering. Then you see your first enemy. A knight of Gwyn. He charges you, alone. Defending his lord to his final death. If you choose to fight, he dies if not, he chases you down, not willing to let you win. You continue and see a second. He charges too, the balance you gold on the thick, fallen beams covered in ash. If you loom you find the remains of a dead knight, lying on the edge of precipice. It was at this moment the desolation really hit me. There's nothing. Everything was burned away to ash aside from five knights. Strong but nothing compared to their former self. The bleak and grey colour scheme is a fair cry from the greys, greens and neon oranges we've seen before. There's nothing. As you reach the kiln, you find the final three guards, the best of the five knights, wielding the great axe, a weapon requiring enormous strength. The halberd, a weapon of emmense dexterity and speed but still unwieldy for most. After finishing them off, collecting the various shards they drop. And you're faced with a wall of fog. Eager to finish this, to fulfil your duty or usurp the mantle of lord you pass through. Instead of some hulking spider beast, or a pair of golden clad giants. Instead of a God, you see a man. And with him you hear the score. It's so basic, so plain compared to the other musical notes but it's beautiful. Standing there, flamong sword in hand, he jumps, willing to do anything to keep the flame burning as he had before. But he isn't a God. He's a husk. The remains of a god gone mad with want and fear. He charges, seeing you as a threat. The music doesn't change. Theres no crescendo, no powerful swell to indicate immense power. His attack is weak compared to what it once was. This musical score was one of the most amazing I'd ever heard in a game. The song at the end of the game was a perfect representation of the struggle to survive and to keep the flame going, despite its inevitable snuffing

[@clipCommander101]

Gwynn is really robin Williams

[@shaunaksarker2557]

👏👏👏You made me cry

[@keltzar1]

You know it's funny. By the time I got to the fight with Gwyn I felt that I was overleveled. He was far from the most challenging battle and I felt a little disappointed. Thinking back on it now though, it's honestly rather fitting. By the time I came to defeat him the battle had already been won, he just didn't want to accept it.

[@keeponrockin22]

Am I the only one that is totally cool with you going into the lore of the game as much as the structure behind its music?

[@tk_the_onion]

*no. Most fans of the game like the lore of Dark souls. So it was more of a distraction to have wind waker boi in there*

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

@@tk_the_onion What?! People who like the story in a game that's known for telling its story through the world instead of cutscenes like the lore of the series?! I am shocked and appalled! Overbearing sarcasm aside, I think it's a brilliant story, and the fact thay he's so ignorant to the fact that anybody playing can enjoy it subconsciously without being forced into the generic canned animation cutscenes that were popular at the time is amazing.

[@ASmartNameForMe]

@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 I think he was joking

[@nanamacapagal8342]

I do enjoy the lore as well. There's no need for booger kid.

[@janugur2241]

That's actually very necessary when talking about video game music since composers will compose their music both for the gameplay and for the lore.

[@maidenchynna2725]

I have NO FREAKING IDEA what is going on in this video... but I still find it SO FASCINATING. I'm definetly waching more of your stuff and sending it to my more musically inclined friends.

[@VBandit47]

Nope, adding lore relation to the music motif is cool and important

[@GaraxyAurora]

A is lonliness B is false redemption(variation 2 is defeat) C is resignation thats how I initially receive it and that build up at C I think is meant to be last breath of will to fight 9:33 I feel like its the element of doubt 11:25 I think it can be called "realisation on what is to come"

[@mwatkins0590]

also, please make more "how to develop small ideas into full song" type of videos. Stuff like arrangement and development. There seems to be a lack of good videos of this on youtube. Would love you long time.

[@josebocanegra8720]

Jeez, the music in Dark Souls is pure genious, love how most of the pieces are so fitting with the context of the chapter of the story

[@wight2211]

I always feel so excited when I see a video of yours in my sub box.

[@8bitMusicTheory]

This actually warms my heart

[@ByakurenEnjoyer]

n e p n e p

[@columbus8myhw]

So does arson

[@GutterTurtle]

2:07 i Just got distracted with the genius that is fighting Gwyn with a lightining spear...

[@zyaicob]

Omg yessss

[@zimjim4500]

10/10 skill

[@liamwhite3522]

"You can get away with writing 15 seconds of music and stretching it out however long it needs to be." *looks at Toby Fox *looks at Homestuck in general Yeah.

[@minnarewers3573]

Liam White tru

[@manicpanic1]

Both of which are good games!

[@michaeladams3762]

@@manicpanic1 yes toby fox is a good game. what? i know this was 7 months ago but what are you talking about

[@andythompson1998]

Toby Fox, the creator of Undertale. He's known for using a certain level of repetition in his OSTs but with a twist to make each piece unique

[@animeworld5847]

Holy shit my thoughts exactly XD

[@corusal]

I think I've learned more from you about composing/songwriting than from any other youtube channel and I've just watched 3 of your videos so far... great work!

[@progfoxmusic]

Would love to see some more videos on the Dark Souls OST. I'm not very buff on my music theory but there's a lot of motifs that get brought up, particularly with any of the chaos demon related fights (Quelaag, Centipede Demon etc). Exceptionally strong use of brass in those pieces and there's a 3 note descending pattern that's used in all of those fights that is kind of similar to Gwyn's motif. If anyone else has any cool DS soundtrack thoughts hmu I need that like I need hard drugs.

[@taywimzzz]

Well... DO you need hard drugs? Just trying to gauge how badly you need those videos? Like, it seems like you essentially just told all of us that you're into "hard" drugs. And if that is the case then all I have to say to you is "fuck yeah, man". 👌

[@FootprintsForTwoTravel]

This video was very interesting to me, I have studied the psychology of gaming and books, and it is great to see the musical science to it also. Thank you. Subbed.

[@PrettzL]

Could I trouble you to dissect one Souls piece in particular? The Twin Princes from Dark Souls 3 [Yuka Kitamura - [Dark Souls III #21] Lorian, Elder Prince & Lothric, Younger Prince] is overpowering and forceful, but why?

[@aditya-ie2bc]

seconded

[@EidolonOrpheus]

The intro is very chaotic but unified like a fanfare over the tonic. Cluster chords and splashes of controlled dissonance increase the sense of density already established by the broad and large instrumentation, essentially filling holes between the steps of the consonant chords. As the violins carry the intro motifs, a harpsichord and eventually other strings begin a rhythmic acceleration, sending the behemoth sound flying faster without changing the tempo. Other moving lines in the texture surface such as in the cellos, creating a somewhat polyphonic motion. Eventually, the melody reduces to the first stand violins, evoking the twin princes themselves and taking on a somewhat lonesome or isolated tone within the frenzy that continues around them.. From here, a large homophonic progression ensues where the choir and brass take the center stage. Choirs often have a religious or regal atmosphere to them, especially in this arrangement and magnitude. The piece is no longer a frenzy but a controlled regality with imposing, slower rhythms than the intro and distinct harmonic progressions. For the most part, this section dances around the dominant without making it the dominant until the end of the section where it can resolve in a cadence. It keeps you on your toes but doesn't use dissonance or leading tones to do so until it wants to. Most of the overpowering nature comes from the sheer density of instrumentation.

[@PrettzL]

EidolonOrpheus Great video.

[@EidolonOrpheus]

Sick in a hotel bed, in my delirious state I was like, "Know what, I wanna know too."

[@corneliusjohnson2473]

I agree. what a powerful composition.

[@Nyuu3]

I've been kinda obsessed with music theory videos for a few months now and this is easily one of my favourites. You're just changing my whole understanding of musical motifs.

[@ibearo8500]

Thank you SO MUCH for taking on this subject! This a theme that I've been discussing with friends, and been surprised that not many people noticed, haven't seen any of your videos before this one I was expecting a more narrative thematic analysis from the player's perspective. If you pay attention (assuming you go through the game in a more or less intended route) you can notice the rise of intensity in the music until you talk to Gwynevere, where your discover you role, and from then on a descending theme right up until the battle with Gwyn. Althought this was WAY more technical than I expected, I enjoyed it lot and learned a lot about music theory. Again, thank you so much!

[@WindSage44]

This is legit the best new channel on youtube right now, great content

[@WilliamAhlert]

Ive been looking for a channel like this for ages......Thank you for coming up with such a great niche.

[@lligeiro]

Dude, the work you make is unbelievably good. I mean, there isn't more niche oriented shit to me than having a very specific dark souls theme used to explain music composing in less than 15 minutes. This is the first video I see and I just love you so much for putting this out there. Thank you so much and please keep up this amazing work

[@j.j.4708]

This looks like I'd need at least 3 hands to play it on piano

[@Rad1caLxChurcH]

this was the first video of yours that I had seen, and I would just like to say. it is utterly refreshing to listen to something about on Dark Souls I have no knowledge of. Brilliant work dood.

[@purpleperplexer]

Wow, this video really helped me get some things about music structure to click in my head, and you've done a great job of explaining how different parts of the song fit together to build a powerful, unified piece. Your discussion of lore also provides good context for the piece as a whole and for particular sections of it. I particularly like the way you relate the notes trailing off toward the end to the flame burning out. Outstanding explanation, thank you!

[@skncl9859]

Okay, you are a saint for making this video. Sakuraba has honestly given me so much inspiration in my compositions and now I understand what he's doing it's lifesaving. Thanks :D

[@DeadlyxxBullets]

As a senior in high school and a percussionist who took AP Music Theory and absolutely loved it, not to mention being a gamer from around the time the N64 came out, seeing two of my favorite things blended together in a channel like this is absolutely amazing. Thank you for your services.

[@lazaruscomplexofficial]

I find myself coming back to this video several times a year to help with my writing

[@LinWasTaken]

00:26 was the bonfire T posing?

[@coffeecup1196]

Nice video, but don't be afraid to put the theory in 8-bit music theory. You don't need to restrain yourself from the lore of the game based on one subset of your subscribers, and you don't need booger-kid.

[@dgp2024]

oh btw, i think how the bass line repeats endlessly like a hollow, while the mighty theme of what gwyn once was plays over it trying to overshadow it, but never able to.

[@RukSaw]

Urghhhhhhh this video was SO HELPFUL

[@Zirkalaritz]

KZbin recommended this video to me because I watched some Sideways videos. You two are a breath of fresh air to the musical scene in this platform.

[@kozmo7]

Dammit I freaking love this channels so much. It takes both of my loves of music and video games and analyzes what makes our favorites so great. It’s so interesting and so well done, thank you SO much. I hope all the best for this channel.

[@EMajor440]

I love your music lectures. I've been playing piano for 20 years and still learning more and more about music theory. I've never studied in college. These kinds of videos are great for moving forward from your basic music theory

[@RequiemOfSolo]

I just found your channel and can't get enough of this.. I've watched all of your content in two days. I've been writing a lot lately and video game music has always been a huge inspiration for me. I think hearing ocarina of times soundtrack so much as a kid is what even got me into loving music in the first place. either way I absolutely love this stuff so keep going!

[@captain_kurbis3954]

Awesome video man. I love the tie in of lore to the analysis of the piece. Thank you, I hope to see more !!!

[@rodrigorebolledo9918]

I've remembered and learnt a lot of composition techniques with your videos, and more importantly so, how to put them into practice with memorable examples. Thanks a lot for your videos!

[@HenrikRudi]

I think your videos are the ones that makes me the most excited when I see them in my feed!

[@neoshenlong]

Its nice to see every day there's more and more channels that go into the *art* part of videogames, making analysis and recognizing the hard work, talent and beauty that is behind a lot of really well made videogames. Its also nice to see that along all of these channels that analyse writing, structure, gameplay, music, lore... there's always a constant: Dark Souls. That game is definitely something else.

[@keystonerecords4541]

Major theory fan and dark souls fan here. I loved music theory classes in high school, and I'm quite frankly amazed at how clear and concise you are with explaining your observations in this video. I feel bad for anyone that doesn't understand what you're talking about here, because this is really something special. I never put any thought into the final boss theme before, thank you.

[@jordddn]

Your best video yet. Seriously keep it up bud these videos are great.

[@malignantastralinfestation5834]

This is an incredible video, I'm about to binge on all your videos. I'm actually learning music theory from this, and that's smashing! Thank you for the work put into this video!

[@hazzmando]

10:26 I love those filthy low bass notes on bars 74 and 78.

[@noraaaaaaa]

i havent played through all of dark souls, ive barely played ds 3, demons souls, and bb. ive been into elden ring recently though, a lot, and im ensnared in the souls franchise before. this is the first time ive heard "Gwyn, Lord of Cinder" and im in tears. what a beautiful piece and a fantastic dissection of it.

[@anyshittynickname]

watched most of your videos up to now. There's both clarity in explanations and analysis depth, please make a video about games that use layered tracks, such as Darkest Dungeon

[@GamezJohn]

I gotta say, this channel is amazing and informative in a very accessible way. thank you for doing this

[@Hezkun]

For the short time I subbed, I noticed one thing. All your videos are gold! I'm super excited to see more, as each one of your videos can really make my day.

[@clark7442]

Nice video, really helped me in the structuring process of composition, keep up the good work.

[@wakamason]

Dark souls’ music fits the narrative amazingly. Especially Gwynn. Knowing the story makes a person appreciate the detail in the music even more.

[@SamurottDarkrai]

love this so much, so helpful for composing!

[@elihodges5593]

This is probably one of my favorite channels on yt, mostly because I know absolutely nothing about music. I know how to read play saxophone, but I had no idea music was so logical.

[@rossgordon9670]

Damn. You're good. I look forward to watching your channel grow! Thank you for the awesome video :)

[@austin50100]

I'm glad someone with knowledge of music theory is analyzing video games. Exactly what I've been looking for. Thx

[@OmegaMetroid93]

This may be my new favorite channel.

[@vesselnation7521]

Im glad I'm not the only one that enjoys Dark Soul's music enough to talk about it at length like this, especially Gwyn's theme, which is my favorite.

[@Enogimka]

I am absolutely no music nerd. I know basically 'nothing' about theory. Well I know a little but I'll sure try to learn more with your videos and try to understand what you mean with the theory I haven't learned yet. I'm 'learning' music theory because I like it by myself with no teacher by the help of the internet. I think I'm getting better and better with time while learning new things here and there. Hopefully one day I'll be able to learn enough to understand the what you say on the fly without pausing the vid and think too much about what you've just said. You sir have some super great content on your channel. I'm digging it even I don't have much knowledge to talk about theory too much. I'll get there one day with some determination. :)

[@MCDMarsgodihatehandles]

Enogimka Check out Adam Neely's Bass Lessons if you're interested in theory, dude explains things SUPER well

[@Enogimka]

MCDMars ahah I've been watching him wait before I have discovered 8-bit music theory. I like Adam Neely's video but he sometime gets into too deep stuff for me to the level of my understanding but I keep getting back to his vids MOAR than once to his videos. What I like of 8-bits is that he transcribe pieces and analyze it and it makes me thing about the things I know or believe I know till it proves me wrong. Another channel I really like to learn music theory it' "12tone"

[@gametut2012]

Okay, did anybody notice if you have Closed Captions on, at around 1:50 when he says "who cares about narrative I want to talk about the motifs" the Closed Caption translates it too "who cares about narrative, I want to touch my booty"

[@sound-engineer]

Having the knowledge of the motif has dramatically changed my composition skills instead of playing just random notes and consequently the composition journey already became more interesting

[@keixayaka]

I think... I'm going to marathon your videos. This one was really informative. Also, you don't have to downplay how the story and music are related. I think it really helped with the explanations.

[@xxxmarmasterxxx]

Very much of a Dark Souls fan. Just found your channel and instantly subscribed.

[@smessmer89]

Just subbed today. I've only seen 2 videos so far but pleeeeeease keep going! It's been too long since I've even looked sideways at music theory and your videos are awesome and educational (and go way over my head sometimes but still interesting!). You actually spurred me to pull out my piano and play it again (haven't done that in a decade). Thank you!!!

[@8bitMusicTheory]

That's so cool to hear! Tickle those ivories

[@RSMusic4L]

i gotta give it to you with the patron ad at the end . that was funny af

[@neonseacow]

mentioning the narrative of the game that the song comes from helps listeners understand the motive and purpose of the composer's choices. thank you for making it clear!

[@redify9758]

Thank you for putting the 5th symphony as an example.

[@cristianotota1796]

I LOVE how you pointed out "in a universe where Sakuraba is a slightly worse composer". Those tiny details show the effort in editing.

[@JimFaindel]

I love how the ending seems so desperate and anxious when compared with the slow and sad start. It really brings forth the idea of an old king trying to hold to his last breath just a bit longer.

[@mwatkins0590]

I feel like I haved waited 15 years for this after your last video. Alas, I am sated. Now go make more.

[@8bitMusicTheory]

I'm on it *types furiously* No but thanks, I know it's been awhile haha. I'm gonna try and get them out more regularly from now on

[@mwatkins0590]

You have some of the best videos. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice speed for quality.

[@the_hedonist3575]

We don't need booger kid. Even if the video ends up a bit longer, it's important to not only analyse the piece, but also the context surrounding the piece, especially a piece composed for a video game (and extra especially when it's a game known for having convoluted and extremely interesting lore).

[@RaxiazRedux]

I'm in love with this channel and this is the only video I've seen. I hope to see more videos like this on your channel. I love music theory... I've been out of it for half a decade though...

[@andys6204]

Actually amazing, I am going to be learning chord theory from a music major friend of mine due to your videos. I understand vaguely about tonics and chord movements, and due to your videos, my curiosity has been piqued enough for me to want to learn and memorize fully.

[@8bitMusicTheory]

That's amazing!! Good luck man, if you have have any questions feel free to message me or tweet me something

[@NotLegato]

this is super helpful for composition techniques.

[@thomasp3543]

I lost it when the snot kid from wind waker came on screen and the voice you used fitted that moment perfectly

[@DrakolfGrimm]

Hearing this explanation of how the song is structured reminds me of how the mechanic of respawning works. The eight bar transition section calls to mind 'death', the song wants to end, but is forced to press on in spite of this desire to stop, just like the Chosen Undead and every respawning Hollow is forced to persist in their undead state. In many ways, Gwyn's theme echoes just how much he's fucked the world by prolonging his Age of Fire, there is no true resolution until it's stopped by an outside hand.

[@nokkusuu]

Why didn't I find this channel sooner? This is amazing!

[@robinesque]

This was a fantastic video. Good work!

[@matheusmterra]

I don't understand anything about music, but I love games and their soundtracks, so listening to this and paralleling with Dark Soul's story motif was very enlightening, thank you.

[@TechMetalRules]

Gwyn's theme is so, SO good.

[@jipowap]

Love to see you do this with the dark souls 3 return of this motif.

[@julianjohnmichael]

Your videos are awesome!! I grew up listening exclusively to video game music, which I would hum and sing to myself all the time. Then I took a music theory class many years ago and loved it. But I never saw them brought together until your videos... and it's so inspirational!!! I honestly might get my keyboard and dig up my old copy of Sibelius to try my hand at composing again :)

[@terrahatvol7960]

Man I really enjoyed this video. I know nothing about Dark Souls but this makes me really interested in the game as well as makes me think about how I can become a better composer. You're totally awesome. Keep it up!!

[@BlockRtrds]

I was studying for my music theory exam and your channel actually teaches it pretty simply without even realising that you're learning lol

[@Wryler8]

It’s insane how a simple sounding piece can be so complicated

[@Honeystain]

Really love the thumbnails! Nobody goes for the 'R:255 G:0 B:255 Magenta' but you somehow make it work! I can instantly tell it's your video!

[@8bitMusicTheory]

Thanks!! That was the goal hahah

[@Sir-Dor1]

You rock, as a band kid and a Dark souls fan, this kicked ass

[@daoallegro1360]

I love all your videos. such musical mind candy. Thank you. please keep up the excellent work.

[@vanderkarl3927]

So... OnlyAfro took simple mechanics and turned them into the amazing epitome of min-maxing PvP builds, Giant Dad. Motoi Sakuraba took simple motifs and turned them into a beautiful soundtrack, essentially min-maxing. ... OnlyAfro is Motoi Sakuraba confirmed!

[@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham]

Vander Karl POWER UP THE MOTIF CANON

[@EHyde-ir9gb]

THE LEGEND!

[@achrafazouagh253]

Please do bloodborne ;-;

[@carlos-zy7vx]

Gehrman theme

[@joreldecipulo2835]

Absolutely loved everything about the analysis, but please, in the future, feel free to continue your thoughts on how the piece relates back to the themes of the game. Great video :)

[@profilename1456]

This is possibly the most useful video I've heard so far on this channel! Any recommendations on where to learn more about putting motifs in practice? I feel this is a big issue I've been trying to overcome as a composer (not only does it take 4x longer but my music tends to lack identity), and it'd be nice to learn more.

[@Krystalmyth]

Gwyn's theme sounds like a duet performed by one person.

[@sensudubs4421]

I had completely overlooked how complex the music was in this game.

[@matag95]

The best final boss soundtrack imo. The clarity and brightness of the piano makes such an amazing contrast to the rest of the soundtrack. Also, really hearing that Erik Saties' Gymnopedies on that particular piece. Masterpiece.

[@ericgropuis]

When you were messing around with Gywen’s theme by changing how he could have done it instead, I still found those versions nice sounding