How Deadly is Joel in The Last of Us? (Game vs Show)

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@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Some of you wanted to see the breakdown between Joel's infected vs non-infected kills so here's my count: ~Infected~ The Prologue/The Quarantine Zone 4 = 1 When You're Lost in the Darkness The Outskirts 21 = 3 Infected Bill's Town 60 = 0 Long, Long Time Pittsburgh 6 = 0 Please Hold to My Hand The Suburbs 21 = 9 Endure and Survive Tommy's Dam + The University 5 = 0 Kin Left Behind DLC 0 = 0 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 0 = 0 When We Are in Need Bus Depot + The Hospital + Jackson 6 = 0 Look for the Light ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Joel = 123 infected kills Show Joel = 13 infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Non-Infected~ The Prologue/The Quarantine Zone 18 = 1 When You're Lost in the Darkness The Outskirts 6 = 0 Infected Bill's Town 0 = 0 Long, Long Time Pittsburgh 78 = 3 Please Hold to My Hand The Suburbs 21 = 2 Endure and Survive Tommy's Dam + The University 40 = 1 Kin Left Behind DLC 0 = 0 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 13 = 3 When We Are in Need Bus Depot + The Hospital + Jackson 17 = 17 Look for the Light ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Joel = 193 non-infected kills Show Joel = 27 non-infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And for Ellie's kills: ~Infected~ Bill's Town 0 = 1 Long, Long Time The Suburbs 2 = 1 Endure and Survive Left Behind DLC 15 = 1 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 28 = 0 When We Are in Need ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Ellie = 45 infected kills Show Ellie = 3 infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Non-Infected~ Pittsburgh 3 = 0 Please Hold to My Hand Tommy's Dam + The University 5 = 0 Kin Left Behind DLC 13 = 0 Left Behind Lakeside Resort 18 = 2 When We Are in Need ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Game Ellie = 39 non-infected kills Show Ellie = 2 non-infected kills ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
uhhhh john wouldn't really waste the bullet on that soldier who was turning since joel isn't the merciful type and would likely spare his bullet for survival
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
and I argue that the action is more believable than something like the show where NOTHING happened to bill's town and i especially don't like how the infected aren't a threat that much like The Walking Dead
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
and joel arguably isn't a villain in that ending... REMEMBER, TLOU1s ending and 'cure' was left ambiguous or your own interpretation but in TLOU2, Neil Cuckman wanted to paint joel as a whole evil villain when the cure was going to 100% work even though TLOU1 never suggested this... the fireflies from the 1st game where going to kill a 14 year old girl with no consent in that matter to give out a cure even though that would be impossible even if the cure did work but now in TLOU2 the cure wouldve 100% worked and how this genius of a scientist wouldve gotten a cure within HOURS even with barely any resources and knowledge on it.... abbys father is a d3mbf3ck and I love how the 2nd game wanted to picture him as a suck kind and caring person by saving a zebra even though he was going to kill a girl who gave no consent to it but even if she was awake and gave 'consent' she can't do that because she's just a 'child' and there could be more solutions to it with time but the 'fireflies' aren't good people side note: I love how abbys father transformed his clothes from 'green' to 'blue' especially how his room went from 'dirty' to 'clean'... Neil Cuckman is a living form of a paragon
@TheSwilkos
@TheSwilkos Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfriction Damn bro you are an angry teen
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
@@TheSwilkos how is that me being angry you boring turd
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed show joel didn't have a scene where he cuddled with a brick or bottle. We all know he loves bricks and bottles more than he does Ellie and even Sarah.
@FitWitScience
@FitWitScience Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@LikeAChameleon
@LikeAChameleon Жыл бұрын
He misses his contractor days
@DiegoLopez-ft5wd
@DiegoLopez-ft5wd Жыл бұрын
​@@LikeAChameleon hahaha bricks and bottles, just another day for a contractor lol
@MegatronNEMO
@MegatronNEMO Жыл бұрын
Or even craft a Molotov in the show
@jinsakai2047
@jinsakai2047 Жыл бұрын
I made your like count 555 (:
@onscreenmoper
@onscreenmoper Жыл бұрын
Love the juxtaposition of Joel fighting for his life while Bill and Frank live their best lives together
@gracecairns9747
@gracecairns9747 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that episode gave a much needed happy story.
@riastradh
@riastradh Жыл бұрын
@@gracecairns9747 well done? Yeah. Much needed? Eeeeh
@bambi20082148
@bambi20082148 Жыл бұрын
@@riastradh its nice to have contrast in a setting where usually everyone is suffering
@riastradh
@riastradh Жыл бұрын
@@bambi20082148 yeah. But I prefer the characters I’m spending time with to get happy moments as opposed to a whole backstory episode that means nothing and takes a character away
@Tahoe756
@Tahoe756 Жыл бұрын
@@riastradhoh I need happy endings boo woo woo
@blackscreenman6117
@blackscreenman6117 Жыл бұрын
I can't belive joel didn't say his iconic line "We truely are the last of us Ellie" after killing 50 random guys with a brick in the show. Zero outta ten. Nice video tho my guy :D keep it up!
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
I know right? Missed opportunity to not include that line in the show smh. And thanks!
@blackscreenman6117
@blackscreenman6117 Жыл бұрын
​@@epiccakesgaming you know, if you are looking for video ideas, a tlou2 or uncharted 4 melee only playthrough might be interesting...
@Jack-ee6hr
@Jack-ee6hr Жыл бұрын
When does he say that in the game?
@samjackson9560
@samjackson9560 Жыл бұрын
@@Jack-ee6hr he doesn’t, ‘‘twas a joke
@Jozombies115
@Jozombies115 Жыл бұрын
@@samjackson9560 Ellie says the last of us in one of the trailers.
@mauseratti226
@mauseratti226 Жыл бұрын
A small nickpick that I have with the show is when the cannibal dude refers to Joel as a "Crazy man" since he only killed one in their group barely and in self defense.
@randombrokeperson
@randombrokeperson Жыл бұрын
I kind of took it like the arrogance of crooks/criminals who almost feel offended that someone had the gall to stand up for themselves and serve them a nice dessert as payback. David being as nuts as he was - it’s believable that he’d think Joel was the crazy one for daring to protect himself and Ellie, and give those guys what they deserved
@mauseratti226
@mauseratti226 Жыл бұрын
@@randombrokeperson you are absolutely right! How did I not realize?!
@victornadler8731
@victornadler8731 Жыл бұрын
It isn't a "small" nickpick, the show is full of those, it's really hard to understand how many people enjoyed, completely disrespected the source material...
@ServeraServera0
@ServeraServera0 Жыл бұрын
I remember David said to Ellie that they sent some of their men to the city for supplies and almost all of them got killed by Joel, about 30 I think The same guys that attack you at the hospital
@lucadepiro4110
@lucadepiro4110 Жыл бұрын
david’s men are the same hunters that attack you after bill’s chapter, joel killed a lot of them
@edoardoruini199
@edoardoruini199 Жыл бұрын
Well, Joel felt a lot less violent in the show than he is in the game, but still, considering how grounded in reality the show feels, its crazy that he killed 40 people/infected
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
'how grounded in reality the show feels' - i wouldn't really say that it's that grounded in reality
@based-ys9um
@based-ys9um Жыл бұрын
To be fair infected aren't in the show.
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
@@Kendorable ummmm just no
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
@@Kendorable give me examples and I'll debunk why the show isn't 'MoRe gRoUnDeD iN rEaLiTy'
@Kendorable
@Kendorable Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfriction a man in his fifties being worn down and more tired and disabled after 20 years of apocalypse
@amityblightandluznoceda3899
@amityblightandluznoceda3899 Жыл бұрын
Now we do the differences between Joel’s kills in the first game and Ellie’s kills in the second game
@co2_os
@co2_os Жыл бұрын
Ellie killed a lot of mfs, she could definitely beat Joel.
@gravesupulturero3652
@gravesupulturero3652 Жыл бұрын
yes JOEL will be brutally killed in Season 2 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@CHIPSISBACK
@CHIPSISBACK Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ellie killed around 15% of the remaining population of Seattle
@kyle3465
@kyle3465 Жыл бұрын
Im betting on ellie
@Someone08-18
@Someone08-18 Жыл бұрын
ellie's probably got more kills since the second game is longer
@verotile_
@verotile_ Жыл бұрын
The contrast between Bill's storyline in the game and show is hilarious
@lautarofarnos835
@lautarofarnos835 8 ай бұрын
What do you mean it's beautiful
@kidjng9050
@kidjng9050 Ай бұрын
@@lautarofarnos835 the contrast is hillarious
@harrybear0984
@harrybear0984 Жыл бұрын
the transition between ep3 and bill's town had me dying
@sam_apollo1187
@sam_apollo1187 Жыл бұрын
same 💀💀joel over there fighting for his life in multiple encounters against infected and bill and frank are just sipping wine chillin
@lattrelbia2527
@lattrelbia2527 11 ай бұрын
​@@sam_apollo1187sipping 🍷 popping 💊
@Its-Frosty
@Its-Frosty Жыл бұрын
I replayed the mission 3 times just to give David what he really deserved and it still felt like it was not enough. Really had me caring about some pixels
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 Жыл бұрын
As I played the games in 2013, I didn't think much of him being in his 50s.. But as I'm now in my 30s, there's no way I would have Joels strenth and stamina in 20 years. I'm glad that the adaption didn't make him an unstopable old hulk. I was a bit concerned that they weren't going to make him brutal, but it makes sense that they were leading up to the bloodbath in episode 9.. If he was killing countless men each episode it wouldn't have that punch at the end.
@squirlmy
@squirlmy Жыл бұрын
ha, as someone in his 50s, and not a gamer, I think of these in even more extreme terms. Anything anywhere close to the game would have been over-the-top cartoonish in the series. A handful of deadly encounters in wartime, irl, will get you a well-deserved medal. A videogame is an entirely different thing. I think during the game, many players got extra feels after adrenaline jolts during gaming phases, and will complain they don't get the same impact from the series. That's because while sitting on a couch passively watching, the video game action would just look laughable. As we old timers might say, like a Saturday morning cartoon.
@greilthelegendaryhero252
@greilthelegendaryhero252 Жыл бұрын
Well if you were forced into hard labor, hikes for miles, ect, you would gain some strength and stamina. Definitely not nearly as much as in a game, but you'd be surprised with what the human body can adapt to. Plus it's important to note that he had a laborious job before.
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 Жыл бұрын
@@greilthelegendaryhero252 it's more the damage over time than the getting stronger aspect. Joel's likely taken a lot of damage over the years, as you age it catches up with you... and without access to medical assistance bruises and fractures/bumps ect would turn into a struggle and pain.. but he's a video game character..I gotta give Leeway to that.. But think crouching on your knees/climbing up objects/swimming.. the basics. The vast majority of 50 year old men aren't going to finish this journey 😅
@hedeslightning
@hedeslightning Жыл бұрын
@@traviscue2099 crazy part is that how the hell is he so fit and buff in an apocalypse ? They barely have any food and if it were real he would be skinny af within few months . Aint no way eating some hunted meat here and there going to keep you thay fit and strong in 50s
@minorityofthought1306
@minorityofthought1306 Жыл бұрын
I'm way stronger in my mid/late forties than I ever was in my twenties and thirties. Old man strength is an actual thing. It helps that I have been a laborer that entire time and that has kept me fit.
@StromboliJoe
@StromboliJoe Жыл бұрын
The bill’s town section vs show was legit hilarious great work
@x_jojo-t1122
@x_jojo-t1122 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely had no clue that you were a small youtuber with how good of an idea this video was and how entertaining it was you have 100% earned a sub and like keep up the good work brother
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much glad you enjoyed it!
@arianadonis4099
@arianadonis4099 Жыл бұрын
In both the game and show, when Joel says "you'll just come after her" man....shit gets me every time
@robogreek3157
@robogreek3157 6 ай бұрын
Show was horrible. Bella Ramsey as ellie? With her cringe personality 😂
@huey515
@huey515 Жыл бұрын
I love when Joel Said, it's Joeling time. Best line ever
@s3xylegend26
@s3xylegend26 Жыл бұрын
Dead meme
@huey515
@huey515 Жыл бұрын
@@s3xylegend26 like you. You died
@applejuice2949
@applejuice2949 Жыл бұрын
@@s3xylegend26 i love when s3xylegend said “its s3xylegending time” and s3xylegended all over the place
@Rags666
@Rags666 Жыл бұрын
​@@applejuice2949 💀👍
@RyanG0899
@RyanG0899 Жыл бұрын
​@Rags666 I love it when Rags666 said "it's 💀👍time" and 💀👍ed all over the place
@oliverwilliams1244
@oliverwilliams1244 Жыл бұрын
lmao the bill's town comparison is so funny. i love the new bill and frank story :,)
@Miniloony
@Miniloony Жыл бұрын
I love the super intense music for the game section with bill cut with peaceful piano for the bill and frank show section I love it just so much
@robogreek3157
@robogreek3157 6 ай бұрын
It's 2 50 year old men having sex... how is that not gross?
@ObiNay
@ObiNay Жыл бұрын
Nice video. During the long long time section I liked what you were doing with changing the music based on the action in the game vs the show, but I would suggest making the music a little louder as it was kinda hard to tell you were even doing that and I think making the music louder would emphasize the gag more. Just my suggestion though, still a good video
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Honestly mixing the audio and getting the sound levels just right is tricky because I’m always worried that I’ll make the music too loud so it’s hard to hear me, but I’ll definitely keep that in mind for my next video! :)
@scoobypup01
@scoobypup01 Жыл бұрын
I think I like Troy Baker’s Joel a bit more so then Pedro’s. However, they are both pretty good. Each bringing their own touch to the character.
@mrstickanimator527
@mrstickanimator527 11 ай бұрын
Well no shit
@robogreek3157
@robogreek3157 6 ай бұрын
If you have to think about that... I don't know. 😂😂
@cyndaquil8331
@cyndaquil8331 Жыл бұрын
Great video! It truly puts Joel's characterizations into perspective. In the game, to save Ellie, he kills less than 10% of his total. In the show, his count almost doubles. To add to that, game Ellie killed like four times more people than Joel did in the Firefly Lab. This makes their last exchange in the game and in the show leave a different impact.
@robogreek3157
@robogreek3157 6 ай бұрын
Because it's a VIDEO GAME. would you have fun only killing 10 guys total in a video game?
@Tulku
@Tulku Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the humor injected with the subway hat and the ranch dressing. It doesn't ruin the flow either.. Nicely done sir.
@bluesky2195
@bluesky2195 Жыл бұрын
I feel alot of people in the comments think that the show is more grounded because of this and that the game has a bunch of NPCs to kill just for gameplay but its also a plot point. Its remarked on many times in the game about how Joel kills an unusual amount of people and that he has remarkable skills that everyone else doesnt. NPCs are scared of him and confused by lines like "there better have been an army in that truck" "the others were slaughtered by a crazy man" and "your friend killed how many people?" Along with "The others are dead, some f*ckin tourist took them out" "how the hell did they manage to take them all out" and Ellies line of "at least theyre scared of us". I feel they could have easily incorporated Joels brutality and intimidation into the show by ackowledging how odd it is he's so skilled and having his actions back it up.
@Cuunke
@Cuunke Жыл бұрын
People are suprised a 50 yo guy can move and be so active but its not odd to me because I have a friend who's 61 and he carves headstones for a living he's not buff but he is fit if you saw him you'd think he was in his 40's it's not impossible for someone of his age to be "productive" like Joel but I guess a bunch of gamers wouldn't know anything about staying fit ig
@bluesky2195
@bluesky2195 Жыл бұрын
@@Cuunke Yeah people also seem to forget that for 20 years he's been actively running and fighting while smuggling unlike most people not in an apocalypse.
@genesiscda4847
@genesiscda4847 Жыл бұрын
Before you leave the quarantine zone, you can “interact” with two guys standing against a wall. One says “what are you looking at?” To Joel and his friend says something along the lines of “shut up, don’t you know who that is? Sorry Joel, we don’t want any trouble.” Implying that Joel is a man who is well known for his ability to absolutely wreck someone.
@archbishopofthecrusades9579
@archbishopofthecrusades9579 Жыл бұрын
Joel is very capable, it's why he was hired alongside tess. I dont feel like show Joel would've been trusted to handle Ellie of this were a realistic situation. Joel is a badass in spite of being older, he's still skilled and incredibly strong. Show Joel is just a dude.
@rafaelalodio5116
@rafaelalodio5116 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, his brutality is part of his character, they should have kept the sections of Pittsburgh, Seweges, the Dam and University with more action and more kills.
@mrtrolly4184
@mrtrolly4184 Жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown sir, it inspired me to do my own kill count where I went all out and got every kill I could in the game. Here's my breakdown. Throughout the game my count is as follows. Joel: 193 Infected kills 119 runners 51 clickers 17 stalkers 6 bloaters 255 (insane numbers here) Human kills 15 smugglers 27 fedra soldiers 123 Pittsburgh hunters 28 bandits (tommy's dam chapters) 33 cannibals 26 fireflies (including Marlene) 3 doctors (yep...) Ellie: 68 infected kills (includes gameplay kills where she got a couple with takedowns) 38 runners 25 clickers 4 stalkers 1 bloater 62 humans kills 3 Pittsburgh hunters (1 in the cutscene and 2 where she sniped them in the plaza) 59 cannibals I'm confident I got every kill I could here and even went out my way at some points like where Ellie's getting chased by the cannibals you can go back and shoot the two who come after her. Also this was done on grounded. Safe to say the game went a bit overboard with the violence and I can understand why the show toned it back a bit for realisms sake.
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Whoa that is awesome. Insane dedication dude!
@mrtrolly4184
@mrtrolly4184 Жыл бұрын
@EpicCakesGaming haha thanks! I kinda want to see the minimum next but there's only so much grounded one can take
@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973
@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to compare Joel's total game kills to Ellie's from parts I and II
@Catsmakemeselfconscious
@Catsmakemeselfconscious Жыл бұрын
Bills town in the game: mass genocide Bills town in the show: look at them eating strawberries together aww so cute aww so sweet
@Somber_Rat
@Somber_Rat Жыл бұрын
It makes a ;lot of sense the difference, I mean can you imagine them trying to fit that all into the show and in the game have not all those kills? Its a big difference but a needed one due to the different in video games and shows. btw love this vid :D
@imnotabeetleiswear6549
@imnotabeetleiswear6549 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Rick from The Walking Dead shows up in the last episode, he was so confused and then just vanished
@shadrickwilliams9221
@shadrickwilliams9221 Жыл бұрын
I love how you said "now talk!" Like batman does after he beats a criminal into a vegetable
@JewishDonutz
@JewishDonutz Жыл бұрын
Wake up babe epiccakesgaming just posted a new vid
@guesswhoiam37
@guesswhoiam37 Жыл бұрын
This was a really well put together video, really funny
@cutecatthing
@cutecatthing Жыл бұрын
love your editing it made me laugh and i didnt know joel was a pacifist on hbo
@drdino2002
@drdino2002 Жыл бұрын
I like to believe the single change of the infected being more dangerous, had a ripple effect on the psychology of the game characters, making them more desperate and cruel just to survive.
@jorgecastillo2391
@jorgecastillo2391 Жыл бұрын
That’s kind of crazy cause on my latest play through, I finished with more or less a thousand kills but that’s cause I went on normal difficulty and did a kill everything play through. the body count gets crazy when you get multi kills on some segments that have infinite infected respawning. There’s one in bills town when you first meet him and another one right before you enter the high school basement.
@joseph39457
@joseph39457 Жыл бұрын
Dude! You deserve millions of subscribers kepp the content up!!
@jimmyconway2800
@jimmyconway2800 Жыл бұрын
The only one you missed Joel only technically killed and that was the passenger of the vehicle which he caused to crash and explode when he shot the driver
@scoobypup01
@scoobypup01 Жыл бұрын
Joel was so brutal in the game, and such a bigger badass. However, they can only do so much in the show. Albeit, I see more kills in Resident Evil and other apocalypse shows/media, then I do in this show. So compared to most, this shows action is incredibly tame
@_boils_8492
@_boils_8492 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but I think you should have made separate lists for infected vs. human kills.
@sinfinite7516
@sinfinite7516 Жыл бұрын
100% agree, they both have very different moral quandries.
@PJDonoghue
@PJDonoghue Жыл бұрын
Great video once again!
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kodeypatterson8973
@kodeypatterson8973 Жыл бұрын
Sweet video man!
@midgy3484
@midgy3484 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video bro! Crazy you dont have more subs!
@deranged7000
@deranged7000 Жыл бұрын
one thing. Joel had insanely more kills and destructiveness back when he and Tommy was still in the fireflies
@moonsun9602
@moonsun9602 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure only Tommy was a firefly but they were both hunters if I remember correctly
@EthanGotreaux
@EthanGotreaux Жыл бұрын
It’s a little funny Ellie has more kills in the game than Joel in the show.
@DragoNerd137
@DragoNerd137 Жыл бұрын
The way Joel just flings Ellie to the ground is hilarious. Nice first impression indeed Joel.
@albertopanocchi8861
@albertopanocchi8861 Жыл бұрын
Well, the answer to "who's more deadly" it's pretty obvious to me. In the videogame, when other groups or enemies encounter the aftermath of Joel's actions, they often assume that it was the result of a confrontation between two rival groups rather than the work of a single individual. Joel in the game is literally a one man army. P.S: I edited the comment to make my point clearer
@disgustang1279
@disgustang1279 Жыл бұрын
“The 76 lookout guys! Some fuckin’ tourist killed ‘em, killed all of them!” Joel is fr the John Wick of the apocalypse
@jonk3714
@jonk3714 Жыл бұрын
Joel was so much more bad ass in the game. The show softened him a lot, and Pedro Pascal is too lovable to come off that stoic and dangerous.
@anordinarytrashcan5071
@anordinarytrashcan5071 Жыл бұрын
definitely, I think some lines are way too soft compared to Troy Baker's performance. Examples: "You'd just come after her" and "I'll pop your goddamn (Although this line was slightly different in the show) knee off". His stance is also not very scary, for lack of a better word.
@shanmantv
@shanmantv Жыл бұрын
I think thats the point
@tiredSPACE22
@tiredSPACE22 Жыл бұрын
​@@anordinarytrashcan5071 and I think this is actually better for a main character, when watching the game again I found joel kind of ruthless lol
@jonk3714
@jonk3714 Жыл бұрын
@@tiredSPACE22 i think he became ruthless because he lived through 2 decades in an apocalypse. I think the show made him much more likable and more of a moral character which i guess was what they were going for but I never thought Joel was a moral character and that made him super interesting. The show kinda took that aspect away bc he’s a good guy most of the time except when he needs to kill he becomes evil. I didn’t love that juxtaposition but thats me.
@tiredSPACE22
@tiredSPACE22 Жыл бұрын
@JonK yeah i get it, for me I really found more likeable an emotionally engaging Joel in the hbo show than the game, I feel like it's more open for me to like him than the version in the game, which i think Joel hbo is more Based on the Joel we see on Tlou part 2
@nobu2683
@nobu2683 Жыл бұрын
Magnificient Work !
@joshuaclayton23
@joshuaclayton23 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the show had less violence to make that final hospital scene have more effect on the viewer
@hellaprice
@hellaprice Жыл бұрын
Love the videos man!
@jeffbo8748
@jeffbo8748 Жыл бұрын
The constant tone shifts between clips of Bill’s Town and Long Long Time is unreasonably funny.
@lampfan201
@lampfan201 Жыл бұрын
You actually did miss a kill. In the HBO Show when Ellie shoots the man who grappled Joel in Episode 4, you didn’t count when Joel finished him off
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Probably should've explained that one a bit more but it's actually counted here as show kill #8 (Around 5:37 the guy who drops his knife is the one that Ellie shoots and Joel kills him off screen)
@abnj12
@abnj12 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Coulda sworn you would have had more subs than what you currently have with the quality this video shows! One suggestion I have is that the ding sound you used often was so loud and harsh to my ears! Otherwise, great vid!
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ll definitely keep that in mind. Getting the volume of the audio just right and balancing voiceover, music, and sound effects is always something I’m trying to improve :)
@thecowboy9698
@thecowboy9698 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised by how much they toned down the combat skills of Joel in the show. In the game, he was like Liam Neeson's character Bryan Mills from the movie Taken. Incidently, based on the Taken trilogy, I think Liam Neeson would've made an excellent Joel. And I'm frankly a little surprised that apparently nobody approached him for the role. But I guess it makes sense they toned down Joel's character in the show, given that in the show he's 56 years old, and while he certainly isn't a pansy by any means, a 56 year old man isn't gonna have the same physical capability and resilience he did when younger. Age catches up with everyone. What I did think was a mistake on the part of the show is it rushed through the first season. They should've stretched it over two seasons, I think.
@krustyman5151
@krustyman5151 Жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that the infected are barely in the show and theyre almost treated as aliens to me the way the clickers jump and move. I know theyre very twitchy and look otherworldly but i don’t remember them being able to leap like 15 feet to you
@thecowboy9698
@thecowboy9698 Жыл бұрын
​@@krustyman5151 - To quote Joel: "I know you wish things were different, I wish things were different, but they ain't."
@lil_jay7926
@lil_jay7926 2 ай бұрын
HBO unfortunately did not adapt Joel’s hand-to-hand combat skills, which I’ve been wanting to see
@techagamer
@techagamer Жыл бұрын
Great video idea 🔥
@turanbirligi6969
@turanbirligi6969 2 ай бұрын
Joel is literally a TERMINATOR in the game, He is unstoppable, The only case he is not deadly is when he is dead.
@altalt1250
@altalt1250 Жыл бұрын
One little thing I noticed is that whenever the show recreates a scene from the game 1:1, they flip the scene horizontally
@Loginv
@Loginv Жыл бұрын
I don't know how many hours you must have spent on this, good job. Epic video
@rowanheart8122
@rowanheart8122 Жыл бұрын
I think that the taming down of the violence makes sense. It's better to only kill when you have to in scenarios where bullets and people might be limited. Also the show focuses a lot on the story, and doesn't have to include gameplay segments. While it is sad that the show had to cut some content, the new content it added much makes up for it.
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 Жыл бұрын
Gameplay shows how brutal of a person Joel actually is. In the game there are moments where you fight where Ellie comments how brutal Joel is. And the show cuts out the part of the game where Joel teaches Ellie how to shoot a rifle and Ellie protects Joel while he clears out an area. That moment was a personal moment of Joel teaching Ellie to defend herself and others and they totally cut it out.
@beaugostick
@beaugostick Жыл бұрын
You forgot about the two nurses in the surgeon room. Oh wait… maybe that was just me.
@landonkam6727
@landonkam6727 Жыл бұрын
Nah, I did it both times I've replayed the game, not sure about my first time bc I was so young. Going along with an operation that will kill a kid without their knowledge and consent while also not being a guarantee of making a vaccine is just unforgivable for me. Didn't hesitate either time. Though I did find out you can stab the surgeon with his scalpel if you walk up to him, I never knew you could do that.
@genesiscda4847
@genesiscda4847 Жыл бұрын
In the game, Joel is a force to be reckoned with. In the show, he’s a regular apocalypse-survivor guy who just keeps getting lucky.
@beethechamp6277
@beethechamp6277 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Tess and Joel didn't say their famous lines "We need just one more big score Aurther. Have some God damn faith!" Truly disappointing 2 bananas out of 10 grapes.
@xskaterxx5124
@xskaterxx5124 Жыл бұрын
bro said "nice first impression joel" when ellie ran at joel with a knife
@narcissistically2461
@narcissistically2461 Жыл бұрын
Killing 40 people would put you above most serial killers irl, so honestly still an insane number lmao
@bammac69
@bammac69 Жыл бұрын
Well, he’s no Part 2 Ellie, but he’s no slouch…
@ishboi-vk4zk
@ishboi-vk4zk Жыл бұрын
Part 2 Abby**** before she was captured
@bluesky2195
@bluesky2195 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's worse
@zeroatlas887
@zeroatlas887 Жыл бұрын
I literally just noticed first and last episodes make the full sentence of fireflies. fuck.
@ThePlatinumGuy2
@ThePlatinumGuy2 Жыл бұрын
Do this for Ellie when season 2 comes out
@Steiper
@Steiper Жыл бұрын
Me:HBO Joel why don’t you have that much kills/HBO Joel:Because there aren’t enough infected to kill/ Me:Oh makes sense
@robinhunter7322
@robinhunter7322 Жыл бұрын
raja's arcade in left behind might be a call back to another naughty dog game uncharted drakes fortune and is a call back to eddy raja the best villian
@weeewooo1579
@weeewooo1579 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@lanztersgaming9653
@lanztersgaming9653 Жыл бұрын
Joel's bodycount just went dozens higher by the finale.
@TheBrowniesOwn
@TheBrowniesOwn Жыл бұрын
can you add a footnote in the description of how the different killcounts of humans vs infected as well? these totals are cool but id like to know the total non infected killed.
@epiccakesgaming
@epiccakesgaming Жыл бұрын
I can do that! A few people have mentioned this so I'll pin a comment with that info :)
@tommyxm10
@tommyxm10 Жыл бұрын
was tempted to click off the video after the title’s question was answered just 10 seconds in😂
@Punisherthedumbman
@Punisherthedumbman Жыл бұрын
By the time I was at bills town I had 477 kills
@AFoxInFlames
@AFoxInFlames Жыл бұрын
Love the emotional damage...that's like the other name for this game.
@zubairsafi2004
@zubairsafi2004 Жыл бұрын
im new here and seeing your videos i really like it and gotta say your great
@Tawanmomo001
@Tawanmomo001 3 ай бұрын
The Show : Kill the neccesaries that have to The Game : 😈😈💀💀
@donevenask
@donevenask Жыл бұрын
I never go to the next area until I know the only ones moving is me and Ellie
@tomlinsona0704
@tomlinsona0704 Жыл бұрын
I like my Joel's being able to kill bloaters.
@FosterCheeze
@FosterCheeze 2 ай бұрын
and all the kills in between the 20 years that passed :D
@megatrondeadpool3116
@megatrondeadpool3116 Жыл бұрын
4:37 Hold on. Did you just say that Joel has met Frank before? That doesn't line up with the story because Joel didn't know who Frank was when he saw him hanging from the ceiling.
@jonathanbell8887
@jonathanbell8887 Жыл бұрын
The reverse uno card made me lol.
@Crysoft2
@Crysoft2 Жыл бұрын
I think the only thing that is really a discrepancy here is that in the show Joel kills like 5 infected while in the game almost half his kills are infected. To me those kills do not compare 1-1 because the zombies are much more predictable and less deadly due to the lack of guns. Great video though :D liked the comedic comparison in the Bill part
@ShannAaron-k6z
@ShannAaron-k6z 4 ай бұрын
10:44 Joel got did dirty 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@hxntaiguy3318
@hxntaiguy3318 Жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the show yet but it looks promising, also you jokes made me laugh.
@monkeytron5061
@monkeytron5061 Жыл бұрын
That’s n amazing juxtaposition the different telling of Bill and Frank rofl …but I’m glad I got both versions
@BaneOfClout
@BaneOfClout Жыл бұрын
0:28 homie didnt tell me there were jumpscares 💀
@Dutchy4564
@Dutchy4564 5 ай бұрын
Que
@Corey414
@Corey414 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The reason game Joel has way more kills is because of a games need for gameplay. That's like the only reason 😅
@anordinarytrashcan5071
@anordinarytrashcan5071 Жыл бұрын
I may not like the show very much but you did a great job with this video. Keep up the good work!
@rainbowcloudss_
@rainbowcloudss_ Жыл бұрын
9:35 LMAOO that is so true haha
@ImTorryTF2
@ImTorryTF2 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the actor for Abby in season 2🗿
@oliverwilliams1244
@oliverwilliams1244 Жыл бұрын
death threats round 2 :( probably for neil as well
@xeox4280
@xeox4280 Жыл бұрын
​@@oliverwilliams1244 good
@mooviedude141
@mooviedude141 Жыл бұрын
Game Bill's section is SO much better than what we got in the show
@queenannsrevenge100
@queenannsrevenge100 Жыл бұрын
Also at 6:35 I think you might have missed Joel killing the guy that Ellie wounded. (9 vs. 8?)
@vaderdudenator1
@vaderdudenator1 6 ай бұрын
It’s weird that the show and game match almost perfectly except for the bill bit which is a complete departure
@yabigboiiii9703
@yabigboiiii9703 Жыл бұрын
All Joel’s gotta do is pull out a Cloth to heal a Shotgun Blast in the game
@squishy7024
@squishy7024 Жыл бұрын
Number of kills in the game can be found out by taking the number of most people possable to kill and least people to kill, then add them together then divide by two, if a decimal round down.
@imakecrappyvideos9360
@imakecrappyvideos9360 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, you only HAVE to kill like 20 people (without glitches)
@PeachesandCream225
@PeachesandCream225 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t believe that they didn’t do the real university fight
@supportivegoat8063
@supportivegoat8063 Жыл бұрын
(Don’t read this if you haven’t played or seen the second game) I thought he title said how dead is Joel and my dumbass was like: Pretty dead did you see how hard she hit him 💀
@karzeng2966
@karzeng2966 Жыл бұрын
bro described the hotel basement moment as if it wasnt the most scary part of the game
@landonkam6727
@landonkam6727 Жыл бұрын
It was when I played it as a kid lol. I've replayed the game twice and the first time was the remake some months ago but I recently got a ps5 so I could play my remastered copy from way back when and just finished my third playthrough. Anyway point is, both times I replayed that section I swore that it was a large area with three generators that you have to activate and each time you activate one a group of infected come at you. Both times I was very pleasantly surprised that my memory was wrong, for some reason my brain greatly exaggerated how tense that part was when I was younger.
@karzeng2966
@karzeng2966 Жыл бұрын
@@landonkam6727 fr i got myself a ps5 for this year Christmas and first game i bought was tlou and it was so simple lmao
@landonkam6727
@landonkam6727 Жыл бұрын
@@karzeng2966 lol, did you buy the remake or remaster? Honestly after playing both, I prefer the remaster more. Things are more visible and the hud is more stylized.
@karzeng2966
@karzeng2966 Жыл бұрын
@@landonkam6727 the ps5 version, I played the ps4 version a couple of months back and I remember playing the original in the ps3 with a friend
@karzeng2966
@karzeng2966 Жыл бұрын
@@landonkam6727 and I feel like the hotel part is worse in the ps4 and original since everything just feels darker and slower
@queenannsrevenge100
@queenannsrevenge100 Жыл бұрын
Joel wasn’t any less “deadly” - it was really just a difference in medium and goals. In the game, the goal is the game; more shooty and stabby means more fun for the gamer. In the show the story is the point - they just didn’t have a lot of empty minutes in the TV series to fill up with lots of killing. Joel shows plenty of his bloodthirstiness when he tortures the guy for info on where Ellie was kidnapped to. That moment got across plenty the kind of man Joel was and just how many people he’d killed in his life.
@23juan42
@23juan42 Жыл бұрын
That og mw2 reference, tho🤩
@o_manam
@o_manam Жыл бұрын
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