How Deep Can a Folding Phone Survive? Honor Magic V3 Durability Test

[@HydraulicPressChannel]

We are on road trip in Switzerland so I am not going to spend too much time on the comments today, enjoy surprise thursday video! Video comes also on Saturday since I want to keep my streak on 😂 The phone launches today so the video comes out also today 🎉

[@oliviersenechal727]

Have a Nice trip

[@TheScandoman]

Good for you! I hope we will see a few videos from your enjoyable trip! Actually it might be nice to see you one or two videos from traveling around your home country as well! Be safe!

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Don't do any speeding there because the fine will be even worse than in Finland.

[@erikbongnilsson246]

Thats some uggly ass slippers you've got there in Finland 6:00 :D Finlands answer to the Foppa-toffel :D

[@brandiwynter]

Enjoy your vacation!!!

[@oxilite]

Just to clarify, at 1:35 you said that IPx8 means that it's only scratch and dust proof, but the X in that rating specifically means it's not at all rated against dust (likely because of the hinge)

[@palmariusbjrnstad1682]

I wish phone makers would stop advertising water resistance and IP ratings, or actually back it up with a warranty. It's just a bad experience when you're already sad to drop the phone in water, and the official repair centre won't even touch it for a fee, due to water damage.

[@johnsch8634]

My iphone xr and 12 both took more than one swim in the bathtub, and both are working fine years later. I hate to think about what apple "service" would have been like if the phones hadn't been fine.

[@kangoon987]

@@johnsch8634I take my iPhone SE2020 to shower daily for 4 years and it’s still working perfectly lmao

[@rootbrian4815]

@@johnsch8634 That's why applecare/+ is worth it.

[@kendokaaa]

Camera manufacturers are even worse. They often advertise them as "weather resistant" but don't even say what that means and obviously there's no IP rating or warranty for water ingress

[@johnsch8634]

@@kendokaaa Cameras aren't exactly easy to seal up little boxes made for you to just toss in your pocket.

[@marklanders630]

I dug up an older iPhone on the beach while metal detecting. Cleaned out the sand from the charging port and dried it with a hair dryer so I could charge it up. When I returned it to the owner I asked if she had dropped it the day before, but she said no, they lost it ten days earlier when a wave hit them and they saw the phone get swept out to sea!

[@KingSvenDeluxe]

Funny that, iPhones usually fail all by themselves.

[@Industry-insider]

@@KingSvenDeluxeyou’re so pathetic

[@Industry-insider]

@@KingSvenDeluxeI’ve never seen that happen, also iPhones are far more repairable than any android, that’s why I’ve fixed a couple hundred iPhones and only three Samsung phones, and one of them had horrible burn in on the replacement screen

[@hugegamer5988]

This is common, it’s called sandboxing the phone.

[@hugegamer5988]

@@Industry-insider lol if you are fixing 100 iPhones to 1 android that says a lot (the popularity is not 100-1). I’ve fixed dozens of both and it really varies by model. iPhones are quite a bit better than they used to be and use less glue which is cheap construction. Androids are more cost effective and better hardware for the $$, but the monoculture and mono design architecture of iPhones means software runs faster on lower performance hardware because greater optimization is possible.

[@nialli2000]

This is incredible. Kind of blows apart the "folding phones are fragile" line. Honor have moved the goalposts with the magic v3

[@Glotttis]

So one common mistake that almost all KZbinrs make is they dunk any phone in water, check it immediately and claim it works fine. However, that's not how water damage works. Usually tiny amounts of water can make it inside and can kill your phone over the next hours, days, weeks. So in this example, just because the phone died immediately at 47 meters doesn't really tell you all that much, might even give you false confidence in the device. This doesn't mean that it can survive 40 meters or even 10 meters and then keep working normally for years. In general, never put your phones in water even if they are water resistant.

[@EggBastion]

WORD

[@bertblankenstein3738]

What happens is the water gets on the components and because the battery has a charge, electrolysis takes place. Best to take the battery out and dry out the electronics before attempting normal operations.

[@Puckoon2002]

3:20 The "Something went wrong" is the loss of signal, because the pressure chamber is made of steel, it is a "Faraday Cage" which is blocking any signal.

[@seitenryu6844]

He said "the wi-lan doesn't work"

[@BrightRaven777]

Can you use hydrologic pressure to cut a KNIFE with hot butter? Hot butter only, through a pressure nozzle with no other additives or abrasives.

[@Kualinar]

Finally, the hot butter get it's revenge after all those decades of abuse from those knives.

[@KingSvenDeluxe]

Yes! Genius idea.

[@johnsch8634]

What's the knife made of? A Gallium knife could be cut by lukewarm butter.

[@hugegamer5988]

@@johnsch8634 “what’s the knife made of?” Answer: poop

[@Idontknow-mf7tx]

​@hugegamer5988 how old are you?

[@OldMan_PJ]

Idea: fill the chamber most of the way with water and then top it off with oil (which should float.) See if it sinks under pressure.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

12:25 The lighting for this scene was really good! You should have this kind of lighting for the spoken parts in the future, too.

[@Nefville]

As a watch collector I'd love to see you do one of the newer Seiko 5 dive-style watches. A good reference number is SRPD51, should be under $300 USD. There is a lot of conversation in the watch community about the water resistance of this watch because is replacing a real, ISO-certified dive watch (the SKX) and though this new Seiko _looks_ like the old diver, it has a push/ pull crown and 100m of stated water resistance. And most people are iffy about that claim and won't even surface swim with one. I'd like to see it put to the test. I bet money if you reached out to Marc from Long Island Watch or any watch youtuber, they would send you one for free to test, especially with your sub count.

[@ghansie10]

I was hammocking from a bridge, and dropped my phone into a lake. It was in a phone dry bag. The insurance wouldn't cover it unless i had the device so i hired a diver to go retrieve it for $350. I had him for 2.5 hours of searching. He found fhe phone in about 3 minutes because i knew basically exactly where it was in reference to the bridge. Phone still worked (strava even still running), and i used it for another year before upgrading. I still use it as a backup phone. So for $350 i got a pretty good story and learned a lesson about securing things.

[@orijimi]

You could also have done wisely to not have bought a phone worth enough to justify hiring a diver. Or not using your phone in a hammock over water. Or not putting a hammock up under a bridge.

[@timfagan816]

Could have got a cheap snorkel and mask for like $10 and gone into the water to look for yourself. The diver would have been laughing his ass off at you, $350 for 3 minutes work! 😂😂😂

[@NFBartos]

That's shit insurance

[@mrnmrn1]

Take the phone to an authorized Honor service center. Let's see if it will work after they just clean it and dry it out. It had a chance for that, if done immediately, but if this was filmed days or weeks ago, it's probably gone due to corrosion. The battery was not full, so there still might be some chance for the phone to survive.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Water damage voids warranty.

[@Industry-insider]

“Honor service center” I think you mean a trash can

[@mrnmrn1]

@@Boogie_the_cat Of course it voids warranty, but doesn't void the possibility of a paid repair.

[@mrnmrn1]

@@Industry-insider I have good experiences with Honor. I used one of their cheap phones, Honor 8S at work for 4+ years without any problem. It's a dual sim model so I used it as my private phone, too. Some colleagues still use that model, those are now more than 5 years old.

[@hugegamer5988]

You need to remove the battery within seconds of water immersion, modern phones all have non-removable batteries so you are done. Electronics are actually washed with water during construction and rework, most components are not the least bit bothered as they are sealed. The problem is electrolysis, the voltage (and tiny current) causes an oxidation reaction hundreds of thousands or even past millions of times faster than in air alone and you can watch the traces bubble and dissolve before your very eyes under a microscope.

[@brandiwynter]

The 30 second video was extremely well done, you guys rocked it!!!

[@rubblereport]

Would love to see a head to head with diving depth gauges in the underwater tank, testing accuracy and obviously depth resistance!

[@victorkreig6089]

It's good to see Tuomas again! I miss the videos he used to make for his own channel. I hope he is doing well

[@drskelebone]

If you're looking for things to test: Nintendo Switch? Everybody has a phone, so that makes sense, but lots of people have Switches, and lots of those people are kids, and kids are well known for not being super careful with things. Love the video, love the channel, best wishes to you both!

[@Marvin_R]

a switch would be a bit boring to test, the open cooling means it would die the moment it's submerged.

[@rootbrian4815]

@@Marvin_R Not if gooped with silicone dioxide (dielectric paste) and had everything coated in it and then reassembled. Wonder if the pressure would remove it. XD

[@computerbob06]

Very good, considering the maximum depth for recreational divers is 40m!

[@WoodworkerDon]

Prritti Guud job Tuomas. 👍 And it was good to see our old friend the 150-ton press and its Remote Control string. No Niin. 😃

[@ehsnils]

All I miss now is the classic music intro. 😁

[@TuomasIkonen]

Thanks Don! 😊

[@charleswelch249]

I love watching your Chanel. You're always coming up with new ways to test something. I have a crazy suggestion. Try testing older and newer valves from the same engine manufacturers. Also from several manufacturers to see who makes a valve that should not lose the face from the stem as easily to destroy the engine. Instead, it just bends away, and maybe you can just fix the head.

[@pete5405]

Nice video, I’m quite surprised that it held up to 50m. The only thing which holds me back from buying a foldable phone is the inside screen, as soon as they come up with something more scratch resistant I’m strongly considering buying one 👍🏼 although I’ll go with the “half size - normal size” variant not the “normal size - newspaper size” option 😆

[@Marvin_R]

the sensitivity to scratches isn't as much of a problem as people think. most scratches come from putting a phone down or in a pocket with the screen exposed, but the inner screen of a foldable is typically protected in these situations because it's folded shut. after 3 years I'm replacing my fold3 with a fold6, i have a small scratch on the outer display, but no scratches on the inner display yet.

[@droppedpasta]

Cool to see the behind-the-scenes of how an ad is made by you

[@72APTU72E]

Love you guys and your vids for years, watching one of your vids is like coming home.

[@AllLoudNation365]

Do the Samsung Galaxy S24 Next!

[@UlvenKvitravn]

Wonder how far down you'd see it go before losing sight of it, very impressive! My idea for the chamber, an old vacuum tube (AKA valves).

[@rickypsencik5947]

That was so cool, making the video. I wonder how many meters it would take to implode?🤔🤷‍♂️

[@oooocc]

Thank you brother, I enjoyed the quality of the video ❤🎉

[@Gunni1972]

I wonder if it would still work at half the depth, if the phone was set to vibra alert, and "rang". Oh i guess we can rule that test out, with the faraday chamber. Unless that "alert" can be set by timer. In my theory, that would move air out the phone, and flood it.

[@rootbrian4815]

Would love to see a device coated in dielectric paste (silicone dioxide) that isn't waterproof/resistant (disassemble, coat everything with it, reassemble, coat the outside and all buttons, headset port, ports and speaker grills, camera outlines) into the deep sea chamber to see how long it would last, and whether the paste would hold up to it at such pressures (40+ meters, until device implodes possibly). That and using a dry bag, even a ziplock freezer bag!

[@illuminati33000]

💥💥💥You guys should definitely put hollow glass spheres with different thickness walls in the pressure chamber💥💥💥💥👍👍

[@teardowndan5364]

I'm guessing the first thing that failed was the speaker or microphone membrane, possibly both: microphone during slow descent since the mic membrane has to be really thin to be sensitive to voice sound pressure, then the speaker during rapid ascent because water cannot rush out through the mic pinhole fast enough to equalize pressure.

[@xiro6]

Use brine to make sure its not full of water and working. Even a drop of sea water entering will ruin it in less than a week no matter where it is, just the humidity

[@McCaileanMcNaughty]

At 4:40 you can see bubbles of air escaping from the phone, meaning it has been replaced with some other substance (water).

[@Satori-d6y]

Hydraulic Chamber 10 000 000 is Tempest-armored! No electromagnetic permeation. But....how do you screw it tight from the inside? Be still my heart...no battery explosion so far...awwww..... Egg timer cast in Perspex/Plexiglas?

[@aexetanius]

JerryRigEverything: Let's do a Honor Magic V3 durability test Lauri: Yeah, hold my beer

[@nickwolf805]

How about putting a can of compressed air in the deep sea chamber

[@garner6583]

I love the Fishflops! I have the same pair of shoes

[@danamacie167]

Let’s see what a high IP rated Scuba Diving watch can really handle, like a Garmin has one rated at 100m

[@johnsch8634]

Really impressive that you could accidently take your phone SCUBA diving and it would have a solid chance of surviving. Wasn't that long ago that even looking at water was a death sentence for a phone.

[@marcuscoquer5958]

A mate did almost exactly that, well dive training, with an iPhone 8. He didn't even try to dry it out to see if it would come back to life.

[@johnsch8634]

@@marcuscoquer5958 Yeah, probably no point in that 🤣 I suspect if he was just training he might have been in freshwater and so it had a slightly higher chance of survival. So the fact you could take a folding phone to the deepest any recreational diver is going and it's likely to survive... that's remarkably good.

[@stevencooper2464]

My UleFone Armor 12 5G is water resistant to 15 feet (4.6 meters); it even comes with an app for taking pictures underwater. As for your deep sea chamber, if only it was big enough to put a bowling ball in it.

[@mattanderson9124]

Great video. You could do a drop test, to see how the phone does with a drop test. Maybe someone else tested dropping the phone on concrete.

[@RSOFT92]

The touchscreen doing silly things while being underwater reminds me of my Samsung Smartphone (IP68 rated) on my first Fatbike Tour in the pouring rain. It suddenly started to show multiple touches caused by raindrops and water running down the screen.

[@hugegamer5988]

I was a bit impressed by the iPhone 15, it does better than other phones when I use it in the hot tub, snow, and rain. Still has a loss of input after a point, but it does quite a bit better than others Ive owned.

[@U.S.A.]

1:30 If its's not covered by warranty, then it's not waterproof. My brother bought a refurbished iPhone and after he swam with it water leaked into the device and it completely broke, because in the advertisement they claimed that it's waterproof my brother threatened them that he's gonna sue them, so they give him back the price of the phone.

[@hg60justice]

be interesting to see how much pressure it would handle using distilled water, so it doesn't short or react to electric circuits.

[@simonstroud2555]

I thought you'd tighten those bolts in the traditional "Austin Maxi cylinder head bolt tightening sequence" instead of going round them in order.

[@crandonborth]

Next you should put a Apple Watch in the chamber... they claim to be water resistant but it would be interesting to see how far it could handle

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

I due upgrade an was looking at this new V3, Have you been daily using it... Isit any good.. ❔ Would recommend?

[@zapfanzapfan]

I assume you have tried the same with a Nokia? There should be phones and pads for divers, right? To take pictures/films with and take notes etc?

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

So I noticed that there was a curious thing rolling down the screen after hitting 1bar, maybe a droplet inside somehow? Or was the video rotated and it was a bubble? (I say somehow, because there wouldn't be any gap to roll down between the screen and plastic protection layer) However, I then noticed the battery life plummeted. I know many of these folders have two batteries and I think one of them died or shorted out, resulting in it only being powered by the remaining battery. I suspect that's *_might be_* why it shut off, with the other battery shorting out. Though it could just as well be that water shorted out elsewhere, but I feel like the battery contacts are the most likely location _(circuit board probably has conformal coating for added water resistance)_

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

Just gotta say, absolutely adore Hannah's voice...lucky man 😅

[@Corvette5v1per]

Should do a phone case test like lifeproof and punk case and others.

[@juscozcustoms]

it might be interesting to see how alloy and carbon fiber paintball marker air tank holds up to the chamber.

[@user255]

Quite impressive. But WHEN it is going to broke, can it be repaired? Is the battery and the screen replaceable?

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I was hoping that after confirming the phone no longer works you would crush it under full pressure. But I guess after the leak nothing dramatic would happen.

[@MAGGOT_VOMIT]

Awesome cinematography Laurie and Hanna!! 😎👍

[@adamreynolds3863]

coolest promo ever

[@aquarius311]

Oot sä kyllä kova jannu kun tolla aksentilla noin sujuvasti puhut enkkua 💪

[@nonna_sof5889]

Can you get a fully charged lithium battery to go off with just pressure? Edit: Oh, before you do I'd suggest adding a pressure relief valve. The gasses generated could potentially over pressurize the system.

[@FixingWithFriends]

The video looks quite good.

[@sanjeevaranasinghe8359]

Thanks , fantastic presentation, appreciated

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

I want to see a little container of maybe some touch explosive (doesn't have to be that powerful) in the chamber, will it explode or will the implosion nullify it

[@PepijnHazelhof]

when the pressure came back to surface level you saw air comming out of the phone, a clear indicaion water has come in. test a catapiller phone in the tank

[@ILOVEBACONBOY2018]

Right on! I'm so high right now and love these videos.

[@Qwarzz]

Considering the kind of abuse you put GoPros thru, you should probably put one in there. Maybe also film some other action camera with it while in the chamber?

[@justdeaf-ry6bn]

It would be interesting to see things implode under extreme water pressure.

[@Tezz42]

Size of that phone I've seen smaller dinner plates and laptops and the phone camera looks like it was taken of a boat 😂😂😂

[@Мишаплей20148]

I never knew that Honor had a flip model.

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

It's only there second and it only comes out like a couple of days ago in China I think not even out in the UK 🇬🇧 yet

[@mrnmrn1]

@@mikebeatstsb7030 Lauri said this model has been launched today for the EU market. Hence the timing of the release of this video.

[@Мишаплей20148]

@@mikebeatstsb7030 im not from uk im from ukraine just know english

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

@@Мишаплей20148 either way.. It's brand spanking new basically..

[@reaperoflostsouls4323]

Yeah they stole the tech from Samsung. That phone is full of spyware and all controlled be the CCP.

[@Hephera]

1:30 this is incorrect. IPX8 is not "dust proof". the first number indicates how dust proof it is and the second number is for water. X means it hasnt been tested for dust or other particulates at all( or it was tested and failed every test). and the 8 is the maximum level of water proof so more than just "splash proof" it should be able to withstand immersion under water greater than depths of 1 meter

[@herrkulor3771]

Wow, that is quality as if it had been completely coated with Parylene.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Oukitel is a Finnish company, right? They make rugged phones/pads/clocks, give them a call and test one of their products!

[@SAK11RA]

Its Chinese, but they are so huge they can probably deliver to Finland anyway

[@zapfanzapfan]

@@SAK11RA Their storage was in Finland when I ordered from them and a hunting store in Finland had their products in stock so they seem very Finnish. But yes, formally they are in Shenzhen I think.

[@Torby4096]

Wow. 50 meters is pretty impressive.

[@CriticoolHit]

Now the test they really wanted to see was how much pressure it would take to snap in half. So show us that.

[@Roy_Godiksen]

For the next test: How much air pressure can it take?

[@bernardflood8289]

Greetings from Ireland. How about testing an automatic dive watch, my one is good for 200m.

[@hugegamer5988]

I’d like to see the 20x depth on that 4km or 400bar. Should be doable with the press, looks like the chamber would be good for it.

[@zapfanzapfan]

They have done a bunch of watches, on this channel or the beyond the press channel.

[@bernardflood8289]

@@zapfanzapfan Awesome, thanks for that.

[@redbird_studios]

Did you put the phone in rice aftewards? :D

[@jarskil8862]

To lure in Asian Electronic expert to fix the phone during night? :D

[@A_Bit_of_Thought]

@@jarskil8862 Serious answer - The rice does a good job of wicking water out of items.

[@princecharon]

I kind of wonder if that would help this phone. It works on others, but I'm pretty sure they mostly got dropped in a bucket or similar, much less depth than that.

[@A_Bit_of_Thought]

@@princecharon You might be right. Considering the pressure outside the phone, the innards probably got well soaked when the seals let go.

[@414RadioTech]

Hey here's a new idea try lithium phone batteries or some type of lithium fully charged batteries that is that way if they do go boom underwater you'll know and see how good they hold up if they blow up inside a high pressure chamber like that

[@brandiwynter]

I wish I could afford one of those folding phones, they are very cool 😎. I would never have guessed it could do as well as it did, that amazing. I doubt my Google Pixel 7 pro could do that, the first day I got the phone I got a tiny crack on the back (which is made of glass for some stupid reason) and Google said that tiny crack "Voids entire warranty"! NEVER BUY A GOOGLE PHONE!

[@locouk]

Put sodium in the deep sea chamber, preferably sealed in a glass vial

[@SK-sm5ge]

It used to be NOKIA that when the phone drops the earth cracks. Now honour goes to HONOR. Now I bought HONOR Magic V3 and moved out from the Samsung fold.

[@joelvh1]

How about Ice? Curious if it would crush due to trapped air pockets in the ice.

[@bertblankenstein3738]

How about a dead fish? Does it get a lot smaller when in the deep sea chamber?

[@thomasnelson6161]

I wonder if salt water would cause it to fail more quickly.

[@johnsch8634]

Salt water might actually not enter the phone as easily. A paper boat will float on salt water much longer than on fresh water because the paper doesn't absorb salt water as readily.

[@thomasnelson6161]

@johnsch8634 that sounds reasonable. I just had the corrosive and increased conductivity in mind, but I reckon it doesn't matter if it never enters the seals... or gaskets. I never know which one is the correct term, but I know they have slightly different definitions.

[@Kualinar]

This experiment, or how to void your warranty in one easy step. «Something went wrong», like being inside an all metal vessel that prevent radio waves from travelling to and from the phone. They will be able to truly say «tested and survive down to 90m» in their adds after that.

[@hugegamer5988]

Faraday pressure chamber lol

[@Thewatcherinthering336]

Hanna is so cute!!

[@hugegamer5988]

New idea for pressure chamber, Will It Press!!

[@Dalorath]

@1:45 same as an engine block or tire bolts..., i feel you should be stagering the bolts as you tighten them in a criss cross patern, or you might warp the metal and seals...It is proven and taught that you should only ever tighten bolts in criss cross paterns for a cap of any sort, otherwise you run the risk of imbalance...

[@dougaltolan3017]

Unlike an engine block, the bolts are not torqued, and the materials are no where near thier yield point. Couldn't distort that cap or cylinder even if you tried.

[@Dalorath]

@@dougaltolan3017 Your probably right. i was just worried because of hte high pressures being used.

[@ManGigz]

Which country are you from,like your accent

[@drskelebone]

I have never heard of this company before, but kudos to them for taking their phone to what has to be one of the most destructive channels I watch. I'm pretty sure that phone is dying today.

[@Teabagbone]

Love the channel but I think there’s too much talking and not enough smooshing in recent episodes.

[@potatoguy]

if you put swiss cheese in there, will the holes fill up with water? id like to see that...

[@Kukkakukko]

5:37 Can you apply heat to that thing? If you can I think its time to cook some hernerokka in there 😂

[@runehovelsrud8847]

How about testing a real dive computer like suunto eon core or Garmins dive Watch and see How deep it goes?

[@stein1385]

Good video

[@robertlacroix-k6l]

Huge fan

[@Baj64]

What would happen if you exploded like 50grams of dynamite under extreme pressure in that tube ? I guess the real question is : What is the pressure necessary to counteract the explosion ? Tempting isn't it ? ^^

[@hugegamer5988]

That should produce about 135L of gas, assuming the vessel was filled with water at STP it should be about 1200 bar and likely exceed the pressure rating of the canister. If it was filled with gas at STP then it’s likely reduced to about 30 bar because it looks like about 4l capacity. That should hold just fine then.

[@Baj64]

@@hugegamer5988 Thanks !

[@Neotkai]

Idea android vs iphone vs nokea your choice on verisons and test.

[@nugboy420]

u dont use a star pattern while closing urchamber?

[@lvolvo1810]

love you guys

[@ZMAN_420]

Very cool!👍🏻

[@sdspivey]

The battery was low, so maybe it was just dead battery. Plug it in.