How Did Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh Get Along?

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📍 Clark Gable considered it is going to be a career destroy to corporate with Vivien Leigh. Their formation in the movie 'Gone with the Wind' is unbeatable, maybe still today. They are basically the heartbeat of the movie. On December 15, 1939, one of the most successful films of all time, Margaret Mitchell’s novel starring Vivien Leigh and Clark Gable, was premiered. Clark and Vivien made history on screen...but what was happening behind the scenes? Have you ever wondered how did the two get along during filming? I think you'll be surprised.
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[@galepatrick1702]

I cannot imagine this movie without Vivien Leigh - she was absolutely brilliant-

[@torilllundborn7899]

I went around in several days in a day.dream..of a real ADVENTURE. Had never seen a movie like this. Or better...I was STARSTRUCKED

[@torilllundborn7899]

I was STARSTRUCKED.. Oh..oh..

[@sylviaroberts2097]

Wonderful film by all concerned should be left as originally made

[@rmp7400]

Agree about Leigh... Although, could happily picture a different (better) characterization of Rhett Butler.

[@poorthing]

​@@rmp7400really? Omg. Who would that have been in the late 30s? Margaret Mitchell even admitted she thought of Gable as she wrote her magnificent novel...& the character of Rhett. She wasn't interested in the Hollywood hoopla and suggested Groucho Marx play Rhett. There was never a doubt who would play Rhett. I think it was a shame he wasn't awarded for that role. He was perfect. Vivien & Olivia & Hattie & Butterfly were all perfect!

[@TahoeSnowbird]

Vivien Leigh was one of the most beautiful actresses of her time or any time.

[@SilverSunPublishing]

Vivien Leigh was PERFECT for the role!

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Yes destiny

[@marirothbauer5407]

She was perfect because in real life she was mentally unstable so the role suited her perfectly. Great actress, watch her with Robert Mitchum in a movie where she chased after him relentlessly and when he was leaving town her true intentions came out psychopath excellent movie.

[@LynetteFromme-fi8um]

So basically, they tolerated each other and didn’t sleep together. That’s like 99% of co-worker relationships.

[@Jean-gx2qe]

Not amongst co-stars in Hollywood! It's practically unheard of!😂

[@shirleymoore4837]

Vivian Leigh was one of the most beautiful women on Earth. She was an absolutely amazing actress. She will never be forgotten due to her role as Scarlett O'Hara. Nobody could have held a candle to her in that role. It was like that character was written exclusively for Vivian. Clark Gable was such a handsome man and a remarkable actor. Clark and Vivian together in their roles guaranteed the overwhelming success of the movie and the main reason people are still watching this movie and still talking about it today.

[@moonriverdiver]

For a Tennessee Williams fan like myself Vivian is as memorable for her role as Blanche in A Streetcar called desire as her range considerable. The fragility she expressed there sadly not merely an assumed role for her.

[@gretchennelson7056]

They were perfect. Absolutely perfect. I can’t imagine else playing those roles.

[@user-ed8zh8ff1z]

Так сошлись на небе 🔯 звёзды,по другому и быть не могло.

[@corineusa1454]

I couldn't imagine a different cast. It is one of the greatest movies ever made.

[@akrenwinkle]

I see Moe Howard as Rhett and Martha Raye as Scarlett. You either have imagination or you don't.

[@geoffreycarson2311]

MOVIES ?g

[@corineusa1454]

@@geoffreycarson2311 ok..movies.🤭

[@LINER011]

Audrie Hepburn was only 7 years old at the time.......otherwise, she would have been perfect.

[@dianemitchell1717]

I thought Leslie Howard was totally miscast. He lacked the charisma which would have convinced me why Scarlet was even interested in him. Pure weakling and milk toast.

[@catherinekerr2160]

Vivian Leigh was the only actor that could have played Scarlett O'Hara. She was brilliant and beautiful.

[@Chamsk]

This movie is a masterpiece No matter what their chemistry was behind the scene their chemistry front of the camera will still forever absolutely incredible actors

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agreed

[@margaretturner7045]

@@teresadbrownbrown3785 6

[@mimiduquette8786]

Let's just say that, personally, I could come up with some chemistry with Clark Gable pretty quickly!!

[@paulakpacente]

One of the finest movies ever made.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Yes the best

[@bluewren2]

@@teresadbrownbrown3785 can you imagine the brain damaged idiots wanting it banned because...........actually not sure but think it had something to do with portraying black servants poorly.

[@jerushamaxwell281]

I loved the curve of Scarlett's raised right eyebrow, when she arrived at the party in that stunning burgundy velvet dress. She had expected social scorn, but mannerly hostess Melanie welcomed her with affection. The entire cast was perfection!

[@sylviaroberts2097]

Great

[@jaengen]

Except Leslie Howard. Totally miscast and I like his other work.

[@jerushamaxwell281]

@@jaengen I'm guessing that Leslie Howard was cast as looking like the kind of honorable man who wouldn't let Scarlett wreck his marriage to Melanie.

[@juliefreds4594]

She was absolutely breathtaking in that scene!!! She owned that room!!!!♥️🥰

[@hellogoodbye637]

Vivien Leigh did such an amazing job in the role and she actually looked Irish. Had black hair, bright blue eyes and a pale complexion. She had a beautiful black Irish look and on top of that did an incredible acting job. She deserved way better pay.

[@saramarshall2957]

Scarlett has green eyes and they used clever lighting to make Viviens eyes look green in the movie

[@libiz25]

A Vogue regular (Cecil Beaton often photographed her for the British edition), she had bright green eyes that lit up her face just like Scarlett O'Hara's.

[@ABC882011]

I believe she was of Irish and French lineage, just like Scarlett.

[@Sapphire586]

@@ABC882011 Ahe was born in India, & some hint that it's possible that she may have had a drop on Indian blood which added an extra dimension to her beauty.

[@jennydoucette2538]

yes

[@cathylopez3034]

Vivian Leigh was perfect.

[@russellcampbell9198]

Leigh was astonishingly great in this film and in everything else she did.

[@julietteyork3721]

At :19 she looks like Elizabeth Taylor. Both Mr. Gable and Miss Leigh were breathtakingly beautiful people.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Yes

[@bebealli9286]

ET looks like the utmost beautiful Vivian Lee. VL was before ET, a great actress. And ET plans her actin off of VLs a ting abilities and to live vicariously through Vivian Lee

[@davidpar2]

Elizabeth Taylor was considered for the part of Bonnie, but she was 7 at that point and too old to play the little girl.

[@melaniew4354]

Vivien Leigh didn't make many movies, but she made THE movie, so that is really all that matters. Vivien had terrible bipolar disorder which was beginning to emerge in her mid-20s when she filmed GWTW, so that explains the "nymphomania", some women react that way when the mania comes...it wasn't a character flaw. Her life is one of those that is interesting to read about, but must have been very painful to actually live. She gave all of herself for her art, and Laurence Olivier said playing Blanche Dubois for so many performances was what finally tipped her over into madness. Clark Gable is said to have never been the same after Carol Lombard's death. I read one of friends was quoted as saying after his death in 1960 (thereabouts) that "Clark Gable passed away in 1942, it just took him 18 years to die." Very sad.

[@tinaarko6625]

She died the day I was born. Gone With The Wind has always been my favorite movie.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agree with everything

[@SusieQSydney]

What a double standard is this is this 2021 or 1930's counting the men Vivien Leigh married in GWTW and maybe had sex with you couldn't confirmed in any definitive artistic rendition but let's just count all of them for argument sake all the potential marriage partners she had in GWTW who more like business partners then lovers and in real life they wouldn't count more then few extras on one hand compared to Clark Gables who's reputation proceedth him and as to why only he was mean't for the role of Rett Butler and no else was really considered for the title role because he was Rett Butler in real life. As nonchalant as screen persona on screen Clark had he was reknown for making love to his leading ladies off camera plus business partner wives in real life who he'd upgrade for better producer when the next best thing came along I was guess considering the number of movies his made that would be in the double digits at least but no one calls him a himphomanic as a matter of fact I'm pretty sure the commentator call him the king of Hollywood WTF!@

[@mamadouaziza2536]

Oh please... Gable may have been sad after his wife's death but he continued to live his life, he worked and remarried and his wife had a son after Gable's death.. Y'all are reading way too much into these people's lives.. Unless you were there 24/7, you have no idea

[@melaniew4354]

@@mamadouaziza2536 All I can say is that I have read bios and watched interviews that included accounts from people who did know them, and these are the things that they said. There's likely some credence to it. Plus Gable is buried in Forest Lawn cemetery next to Carole Lombard, which is where he requested to be. That's pretty telling.

[@stevien196]

I think she is worth every single ounce of her oscar. Her performance is very "modern" and natural. The female actors seemed to lose their way after her and turned in stylised Hollywood performances until the 60s. I have seen Vivien's oscar described as the best ever awarded to an actress and I think this is about right. If anyone has any doubts please re-check the way she holds your attention for every moment she is on screen. And, of course, there is always that scene when she gargles alcohol.

[@Ann-ub4mf]

She was BEAUTIFUL! The chemistry between them was fire .🔥🔥🔥

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Exactly

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Absolutely

[@angelbabysqueaky3985]

Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh were perfect in their roles.i can't imagine anyone else in their roles. Beautifully shot, great story. A true classic.

[@SteffiReitsch]

Producer Selznick and his assistants scoured Hollywood and beyond for just the right people. Everything had to be perfect for their masterpiece.

[@pamott1809]

My all time favorite movie and book!! Love Vivian and Clark in their roles!! I can't imagine anyone else playing Scarlett and Rhett!! Hard to believe it's been over 80 yrs and this movie is still popular. Thanks for the coverage of such an iconic movie!!

[@Freya-bs5tx]

The scene where scarlet closes the front door and says tomorrow is a new day has gotten me through some really bad times,if she can do it so can i.

[@pamott1809]

@@Freya-bs5tx Me too!! And no matter how bad something is, that we are going through, it could always be a heck of a lot worse. That there is always someone worse off than we are. In my case, the more I let something get me down, the longer I stay stuck where I am. I hope you are in a great place now!! Take care!

[@carolelizabethkumar5615]

My favourite film apart from Titanic I loved Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh they were born for that part pity if they didn't get on in real life

[@Melinda8162]

How come they say Clark such bad breath? Didn’t they have mouth wash and denture cleaner then? I’m sure they did! I bet he ate that garlic to piss Vivian off if she was such a beatch! 😬

[@deniselawrence2094]

@@Freya-bs5tx "Tomorrow is another day."

[@joanthemadxxxxxx1832]

When Carole died, Vivien support Clark and when he died, she send a letter to Kay Williams and a toy of silver for the baby, they were friends

[@terrihilder8217]

Thank you for pointing that out. Actually I have read in a number of biographies that they weren't close when filming GWTW. But were professional and had a good working relationship. I read that he taught her how to play backgammon and that they played a pencil and paper game of battleship between takes while on set. That doesn't sound too bad, does it? lol

[@joanthemadxxxxxx1832]

@@terrihilder8217 olivia de havilland confirms that, they were friends in the set and she also said that clark was the one who encouraged everyone and also that his career was at stake in that movie and that everyone else always tried to cheer him on on set

[@Jasmine-qw9nv]

I felt she knew that gable was a loner and she befriended him during set also their relationship wasn’t that bad

[@gypsymoontarotofficial]

Funny how Vivien gets called a nymph but Gable gets called the “ King of Hollywood” 🙄

[@nukapuka]

Difference between male and female. Simple facts.

[@lewstone5430]

*Science!*

[@nataliedelagrandiere4022]

Not fair.

[@nikkirae9805]

Facts

[@mistyhammond753]

Exactly 🙄

[@cw-s3582]

Sad how she was bipolar. Such a beautiful woman.

[@elizabethstroud6038]

Vivien Leigh remains untouchable to me as Scarlett. Her beauty is astounding. Her voice…a dulcet southern quality. Nobody. Will ever be able to take over this role. The same for Clark Gabel. A real man so to speak, with a huge heart. That they didn’t get along well is not surprising. Perhaps that is the key to their great performances. 14:57 ❤

[@markdauber6073]

Has anyone ever thought of the tragic deaths of the components of GWTW? BOTH Victor Fleming Director and friend of Gable both died of heart attacks and both at the young sges of 59. Leslie Howard was in an airplane which was shot down flying over England during the war, at age 50, just a few years after finishing GWTW. Mammy died in her 50's of breath cancer. Ona Munson (Belle Watling) and George Reeves (Tarlton twin) both committed suicide. Prissy lived a long time but was killed while lighting a lamp which blew up in her face, Vivien Leigh died at 53 of tuberculosis, and MARGARET MITCHELL died after being hit by a car at age of 48. Terrible! But Olivia de Havilland lived all the way to 103!

[@marionmarino1616]

A friend of mine, who was a Southern girl, said that the people of Atlanta wanted to hang the cab driver who killed Mitchell.

[@jamieholtsclaw2305]

Sounds like Olivia stole everyone else's years remaining somehow.

[@kkcook3743]

​@@marionmarino1616 How backwoods is that.

[@marionmarino1616]

@@kkcook3743 Electro-shock? Only banned in the US a couple of years back. Still being used in some cases.

[@SouthernMansion]

I have read there is GOOD evidence that George Reeves was murdered.

[@tonymcdonnly6492]

Gone With The Wind is my overall favorite film of all time.

[@brianoverland5474]

Selznick showed his genius in holding out for both Gable and Leigh; he was right about both. As for their working relationship, I had always read that they basically went their separate ways after the director said "Cut"... and that yes, this was mainly because she was so in love with Olivier.

[@Whippets]

Vivien Leigh was flat out intoxicating.

[@billmayo1094]

Vivien Leigh in "Streetcar" won me over. Brilliant.

[@misstigermilk]

That's why they call it acting. And Vivien Leigh was a phenomenally talented actress, and not just in this role. Who cares what scandals went on; humans tend to be imperfect.

[@dulynoted8655]

I agree… This movie would not be this movie without her! I can’t imagine anyone pulling this off… and Clark Gable… Shit!!! And Hattie McDaniel? Whoa! She also made the movie and deserved the academy award. Most iconic movie of all time!

[@pepsiyummie1]

She was stunning. I grew up wanting to look like her.

[@michaelsnider2484]

Although just about every female star in town wanted to be considered for Scarlett, and many were, I think it was a stroke of genius in hindsight to cast an actress unknown to American audiences. When Ms. Leigh flounces into frame at the beginning of the movie, she IS Scarlett, with no other associations in our minds.

[@roseogrady8785]

Two Masters of their Craft...no chemistry but their acting made it real.

[@stephanierector3057]

No one could of done better! I'm very appreciative of all cast!

[@catherinehadnot8244]

The ghost in this picture is Hattie McDaniel who was one of the Oscar winners.

[@isabelchavez7175]

Still one of the best movies ever! 👍👏👏👏

[@greeneyedwarlock882]

I’ve read that GABLE had dentures and terrible breath. But his love-for-the-ages with the one and only CAROL LOMBARD was the ABSOLUTE REAL DEAL. They ADORED each other with an unending passion and when she was killed in a horrible plain crash while on a war bond trip he was CRUSHED FOR LIFE and never fully recovered.

[@Melinda8162]

Didn’t they have mouth wash and denture cleaner , then? I mean , they must have! Why would he go around stinking, I don’t believe it!

[@libiz25]

@@Melinda8162 He had almost a full set of dentures when he was only 32. Because of a bad gum infection in 1933, he had to have most of his teeth removed and replaced by dentures, which caused him to suffer from halitosis.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agree

[@Sapphire586]

Couldn't he have sucked on some mints before his kissing scenes with her? Geez.

[@nadyarossi5102]

He cheated on Carole with Lana Turner.

[@hairyscotman]

BOTH Vivien and Clark were perfect....still, my favorite movie....

[@briannichols4807]

According to Olivia De Havilland , Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh got along fine behind the scenes . Both were playing games with each other like "Battleship" when waiting between filming scenes .

[@bluewren2]

Well Olivia De Havilland was intelligent what 'Psychiatrists would call high IQ. She'd see no advantage in sabotaging her picture and it's Stars. Would she?

[@stevenrowson4339]

According to Olivia De Havilland they played battle ships constantly while waiting on set, that sounds to me like they got on just fine.

[@saltychips5795]

According to Olivia de Haviland, they got along very well and played battleship during breaks.

[@sharolddelilahkelly8005]

The Original Pen And Paper Version. I Almost Unnecessarily Called You Out Over The Game...I'm Glad I've Researched On Battleship's History, Before Replying Though. 👍

[@melaniew4354]

There is a photo of them playing Chinese Checkers between takes during the Atlanta Bazaar scene - I don't think Battleship existed as a game yet in the 1930s.

[@garymazzeo3490]

According to Olivia De Haviland ....she said ..she didn't think very much of Gable or Rhett Butler and all Gable ever thought about was himself.

[@crankyoldperson6871]

@@garymazzeo3490 Olivia De Haviland wins the Oscar for the most lady like burn.

[@lottelarsen2918]

@@melaniew4354 Yes it was introduced in 1931 😊

[@bettyburke8653]

Amazing. Wish they would make movies like this again. ❤️

[@lucretciaseven4873]

She wasn't a nymphomaniac she was severely Bi-polar in a time when there was no effective treatment for it: manic sexual promiscuity and poor impulse control are symptoms of the disease.

[@micpowers1136]

yea thats a nympho lol

[@lucretciaseven4873]

@@micpowers1136 No, that's a mental disorder that probably made her more miserable than anyone that had to deal with her, but hey don't let a little understanding get in the way of a joke amiright?

[@timmylee41]

Sounds fun!

[@nickpaine]

I don't call that a disease. I'd call it an attribute.

[@sylviaroberts2097]

Vivien was a wonderful actress watch her with Marlon Brando in Streetcar named desire amazing

[@candlewoodfarm]

The best picture ever made by far!

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Yes

[@tammijeffrey8472]

Gone with the Wind is my Favorite movie of all time. I had read that Clark Gable had bad breath and false teeth,but Viven Leigh had TB.and was Bipolar. But no matter what they had or didn't have they were GREAT in the movie.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Absolutely

[@scripturereference2446]

According to first-hand account of Olivia DeHavilland, Clark & Vivien spent their off-screen waiting time together for hours, playing board games, etc. You don't purposefully spend that kind of discretionary time with someone you don't like. You even have a shot of that in your video.

[@lyncressler2608]

Oh my .. I had no idea. Still it's one of our best movies ever made! I remember watching this With my younger sister. It was so wonderful.

[@boomerang1125]

Given the way everyone smoked 'back in the day', I have to imagine there was a lot of bad breath and nicotine infused body odor going around. GWTW is truly one of the greatest classics of all time. 85 years on, it defines Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh for all generations. They will be Rhett and Scarlett for all eternity.

[@debbiejarus1723]

Vivien Leigh was the only woman who could have brought Scarlett to life. IMO she was one of the most beautiful women who ever lived, and by far the most beautiful woman of film's Golden Age.

[@sylviaroberts2097]

Oh those eyes

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agree

[@dafinker3443]

The greatest movie and Stars Gable and Leigh more than fabulous

[@tinaarko6625]

Loretta Young became pregnant by Clack Gable during the filming of, The Call of the Wild. She went away & came back with an "adopted" baby girl. At some point, Loretta Young told her adopted daughter that she was really her daughter & that Clark Gable was her father. The daughter only met her father once, when she was 15.

[@tomryan914]

Daughter had her ears fixed. Loretta got Clark's fingerprints removed from hers.

[@a.d.mitchell2613]

They say that he. R. her this is when he invited her out on a supposed to be so-called date

[@lisahines8176]

@@a.d.mitchell2613 Raped who? I’m not clear on which “her”you meant.

[@lisahines8176]

@@tomryan914 I’m not sure I understand your comment. What do you mean?

[@sandisteinberg1579]

@@tomryan914 Loretta had her daughter's ears operated on when the girl was quite young.

[@JeffMathias]

1939 peak Hollywood. Also Wizard of Oz, Stagecoach. There were exactly 4 color movie cameras in the world and Gone used all of them, borrowing 2 from other studios. War was on in Europe and the Germans considered Gone a towering achievement. Leigh was just the right kind of emotional to pull off the fire needed for the role. She was also traumatized by the rigors of the shoot and missing Laurence Olivier. Her Gone experience taxed her mental health greatly just like Truman Capote struggled with his In Cold Blood experience. Artists leave it all out there and pay a price.

[@marionmarino1616]

It’s well documented that Leigh had psychological problems that were badly treated. She was sent to Switzerland for those old electro shock treatments.

[@mariamorizzi6519]

IALWAYS KNEW THAT VIVIAN HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS

[@christopheramrston9732]

She didn't hate gable I have read over 12 biographies and bibliography on vivien she just didn't like kissing him she found his breath a little foul thats all

[@timothyscavo8510]

Not really surprising. I had heard that they didn't like each other. Promiscuity is highly characteristic of bipolar disorder. And incidentally, promiscuity is every bit as self destructive as any other addiction.

[@leslie1555]

Can you imagine how disturbing and heartbreaking it would be to have this affliction? By all accounts, Vivien was a gracious and dignified lady who was tortured by this disease.

[@Sasslette]

I really don't care who said what or what is true, to me. Scarlett and Rhett will always be the quintessential couple who had their own demons to battle while really searching for love that was right under their noses. Vivien and Clark were cast very well for the role, there could be no one else. Olivia DeHaviland played the beautiful Melanie Hamilton married to the whimsical Ashley. The sequel made years later just didn't have the chemistry nor the guts and glory of the original story line by Margaret Mitchell.

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agreed

[@mimiduquette8786]

I never could understand why Melly was played by Olivia DeHavilland, who made a very lovely Melanie Wilkes. Mitchell described Melanie as very plain, with a creamy ivory complexion, and rather sickly. DeHavilland was neither of those things, but still played Melanie beautifully??

[@Sasslette]

@@mimiduquette8786 While the movie stuck closely to the book, they also totally left out Scarlett first son Wade. So my taking on Melanie (on screen) was a "delicate" woman who never had the strength of Scarlett which is what Olivia portrayed (I think) brilliantly and why she was the best match for Ashley. To this day this is my favourite movie!

[@SteffiReitsch]

Physically speaking, they didn't match up so good. Gable was 6'1'' and Leigh was a diminutive 5' 3''(probably 5'2''). She has to look way up at him. A woman about 5' 8'' or 9 would have been a much better match for him. But she was very pretty.

[@bluewren2]

@@mimiduquette8786 The truth is Olivia De Havilland seems to have been a very intelligent healthy minded and well grounded person. Though the publicity department e.g. liked to paint her and her sister Joan Fontaine as jealous rivals, the opposite was true whenever they could they put work in each others way.

[@Adriana-vp1rm]

My dear cousin was the spitting image of Vivien. Sadly she died 5 years ago. She was beautiful. Same teeth, lips. Same nose and eyes. And the eye brows too. My mum remembers my cuz being born. She looked like baby Bonnie with those eye brown high up.

[@romanclay1913]

Vivien Leigh's personal favorite performance was: WATERLOO BRIDGE(1940)

[@duesenberger]

Thx for this video. They played their roles and they played them well. That's what matters to me. A great movie, a classic!

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Exactly

[@skontheroad]

I LOVED this movie since I was probably 6 years old? And it is STILL my favorite film! My mother told me when I was young, that she heard that Vivian Leigh claimed that Clark Gable had bad breath from his dentures! So I never thought that they had a real connection in real life. Either way, this is fun to watch! Thanks!

[@honestlyyours1069]

Love the background music that goes along with all of these videos.

[@donnawoodman6249]

My favorite movie of all time. 💙

[@JudgeJulieLit]

As Margaret Mitchell wrote the character Scarlett O'Hara, she was half Irish and half French, with dark hair and a heart shaped face. Vivien Leigh fit the description, as most other aspirants but for perhaps Paulette Goddard did not.

[@KTR2022]

Margaret Mitchell also wrote that Scarlett wasn't beautiful, I'm quite sure it's somewhere in the very first few pages or is it the opening line? Vivien was beautiful...

[@marjoriegarner5369]

yes, Mitchell said in the opening lined of the novel that Scarlett was not beautiful, but very popular with the boys. She was stuck on Ashley, and married many men for money etc., , until she fell for Rhett.

[@davidpar2]

Vivien Leigh transformed Scarlett from a not beautiful Aries (per the novel) into a gorgeous Scorpio (per Leigh’s reality), heh

[@JudgeJulieLit]

​@@KTR2022 The novel GWTW opens, "Scarlett O'Hara was not beautiful, but men seldom realized it when caught by her charm like the Tarleton twins were." As in the film, she had two (not "many") husbands before she married Rhett; unlike the film, she had a child with each. "Scorpio" Vivien like "Aries" Scarlett yet had a ram's pertinacity to keep butting twd her goals (as in pursuing Olivier, then this role); and Scarlett had scorpion traits, as when Mammy called her a predatory "spider."

[@JudgeJulieLit]

​@@marjoriegarner5369 Scarlett as the Tara plantation owner's daughter married her first husband Charles Hamilton (Melanie's brother) not for money, but to salve her wounded pride when Ashley became engaged to Melanie; and to stay close to Ashley.

[@Chrisfeb68]

Vivien Leigh had just begun a relationship with Laurence Olivier at this time and absolutely hated being away from him. I believe she funnelled a lot of her feelings into the role she played.

[@ginagraham2873]

Bad breath would be a deal breaker for any actress being expected to kiss an actor. It doesn't matter how much of a Hollywood star he is!

[@kimmi67386]

I agree, but the poor guy had to have his teeth removed. Felt so bad for him. Must be devastating for anyone. Must have been a crushing blow

[@GlennaVan]

@@kimmi67386 Dentures is absolutely no reason for continuing bad breath. He could have easily have cleaned them (and his mouth!) thoroughly before each scene filming. It is more likely his diet was responsible or some chronic infection but saying dentures is an easy out. Remember it said he often ate garlic before scenes. It almost sounds like he did it deliberately - maybe his private revenge for not being able to seduce her?

[@lucretciaseven4873]

@@GlennaVan You are both judging this by todays yardstick even though body odor and bad breath are not even deal breakers today as there have been many articles about certain present day actors and actresses who practice poor hygene yet still command high salaries and work consistently. In Hollywood it's still a fact that if an actor refuses to act for one reason or another there is always someone who will, in the persuit of fame and wealththat is the nature of the beast. In the Depression era with millions lierally starving for want of work a virtually unknown actor throwing a tantrum and refusing to work with with someone of Gable's stature because of bad breath would have ended their career and people would have labled them unhinged. As for how easily bad breath could be controlled in 1938, that is an assumption based pn present day denture materials and oral hygene products that simply were not available at the time. In Gable's time dentures were more porus and hard to clean. There were none of none of the present days products we have today and dentures actually had to be soaked in a solution over niight so it wan't as simple as just cleaning them before each scene. In fact toothpaste at that time was too abrasive to be used on dentures and there were no pleasant minty fresh mouth washes, all that was available was was extremely strong vile tasting solutions that were basically disinfectants. Dental care and dentures in particular have made huge strides since the pre WW2 era, while they weren't cow teeth or wooden like in George Washinton's day they were still uncomfortable, hard to clean and bad breath was a common side effect of this fact. However, people at that time understood this and while unpleasant didn't make huge character jugments on those who wore them.

[@kathy5828]

@@kimmi67386 I had to have mine removed at the age of 18, I'm 67 now. My health improved also having them removed. But if you keep your mouth clean use mouthwash. I don't understand why didn't he at least try to keep his breath smelling better at work, even if it was just having mouthwash there all the time.

[@mimiduquette8786]

@@kathy5828 I don't know if you have noticed this or not, but a lot of the star's teeth weren't as white as they are today!!

[@ctb2756]

What about describing her like the queen of seduction and him as the tomboy/gigolo ? It seems to me it would be much more appropriate since he owns his career to several older (than him) women who gave him his look, dressed him and introduce him to the right people.

[@harryogle8330]

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[@GlennaVan]

I think you mis-typed there and meant to type "owes" rather than "owns." (KZbin and Facebook like to do that to us.)

[@jerrymoore838]

Its a part of nature, but commonly any female can get laid if she likes... but a male has to actually work at it lol

[@sylviaroberts2097]

Who cares they both were only human but left us mere mortals something to remember 😢 😔

[@teresadbrownbrown3785]

Agree

[@pennywollett3953]

I think that they did not get along in real life really fits the story in the novel. In the book Scarlett doesn't really care for him as she is using him as she did with all her husband's because she thought she loved Ashley. So it works out best for the movie. If she was gaga over Clark it just wouldn't have worked. My all time favorite movie and book.💞💓💞

[@brendareed8412]

That is an insightful observation!

[@pennywollett3953]

@@brendareed8412 thanks!!

[@c.a.savage5689]

I thought the exact same thing almost immediately. Scarlett spends the entire novel (apart from 1 major scene) pushing Rhett Butler away, insulting him, etc. Any onscreen chemistry between the two would have been contradictory to the plot. Makes the ending all the more believable and moving.

[@janetmaxwell222]

How sexist...calling Vivien Leigh a nymphomaniac. Gable was no choir boy but that term not applied to him. Perhaps the discrepancy in their pay packets did not help.

[@ruthlawrence8046]

Hi Age of Vintage 2, this is another FABULOUS video about two of my favourite star's. Clark Gable The King of Hollywood 😍 I couldn't imagine ANYONE else to have done justice to this iconic role, this is definitely one of my favourite movies GWTW, I think the phrase would have to be one of the most re watchable films from The Golden Years of Hollywood. I think he just clicked for this film, & the on screen chemistry between him & Vivien Leigh was breathtaking. He was just so handsome & Leigh in my opinion only, certainly deserved to win her Oscar. Being a British actress, she wasn't very well known in the USA, But there's no denying how she tackled this iconic role. She was funny, & flirty almost childlike in some scenes with Gable, but could then switch & show her other side as a determined, ruthless character not to be messed with. Then she could turn on the charm, seductive side in close up clinches with Gable, when she would gaze up into his eye's & gave the character her voluptuous sensuous body language of a woman very much in love. Vivien Leigh was breathtakingly beautiful, however she led a life of dreadful health problems, particularly as she was Bi Polar, an ailment not a lot of people knew about. Only in my opinion, they both gave of themselves, a marvellous performance, as off screen Leigh was madly in love with Laurence Olivier, & Gable with Carole Lombard, whom he later married. I personally don't believe they hated each other off screen, my opinion only, a lot of Hollywood stories are often embellished & that old saying of " No publicity is bad publicity " Thanks again for this wonderful video about two of my favourite star's. Love Love from Australia 🇭🇲🇭🇲🎬📽😘😍💚💙💖💛💜❤💕💕💕💕⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘💋💋💋💋

[@melaniew4354]

Clark and Vivien were both very in love with other people, and the stories of them hating each other have always seemed exaggerated and probably drummed up for publicity. You are right the all the principles are perfectly cast, all except Leslie Howard. He was too old and not nearly handsome enough to pull off a believable Ashley Wilkes. The Ashley of the novel is nothing like the soggy wimpy guy you see in the movie.

[@cathrynharrison4734]

Yes but he too died in the war in his case shot down by the Luftwaffe whilst flying over the Bay Of Biscay in a British Airliner........... maybe thats why he was never criticized

[@mzarate6288]

You have to see Leslie Howard and Merle Oberon in “The Scarlet Pimpernel “ utterly charming, a fine actor.

[@melaniew4354]

@@mzarate6288 I do think Leslie Howard is indeed a very good actor and I agree he is wonderful the Scarlet Pimpernel, he was appropriate in that role it suited his acting style. I didn't say he was a bad actor, I said he was miscast in GWTW. The character of Ashley Wilkes is strong, handsome, sensitive and dutiful. He is written as the physical opposite of Rhett. Ashley is blond, Rhett is "swarthy". Despite surviving the terrible Camp Douglas as a POW, The War breaks Ashley, he doesn't know what to do as his society crumbles around him so he decides to take Melanie and Beau and leave, (he decides to go to New York and work in a bank, but of course Scarlett waylays that plan) while Rhett sees opportunity and uses the changes to advance his fortune and reputation. Rhett would NEVER go work for someone else. At any rate, Leslie Howard said he didn't like the role it is clear he isn't "into" it, and it shows in his performance. He only took the part because he was promised to be allowed to direct the picture Intermezzo, which turned out to be sort of a flop. I'm just saying there's alot more that could have been done with Ashley and it would have helped viewers understand Scarlett's attachment to him much better. When I read GWTW, which is grand because there is soooooo much more to their story, I am pretty much picturing Vivien Leigh, Clark Gable and Olivia DeHaviland, but Ashley? Hmmmm....maybe Jimmy Stewart or somebody, lol!

[@mzarate6288]

@@melaniew4354 Thank you for a thoroughly good analysis on Ashley. It must be true opposites attract I never got Scarlet’s infatuation with him; she was such a strong determined character but liked this genteel shy man.

[@mzarate6288]

@@bluebird5361 A great film! BTW another wonderful film with Vivian Leigh and Sir. Lawrence Olivier is The Hamilton Woman.

[@gforceeatingcorrect]

Leigh was AMAZING.........she made the Film !!! Horrible to think she was sooo under payed !!!!

[@marjoriegarner5369]

word is "paid".... not payed.

[@jerrymoore838]

He was already an established box office draw... She was not yet

[@nicolejennings8389]

They spoke well of one another

[@anagjini7111]

Imagine how ecstatic that one vote for viviane must’ve been when she was cast lol

[@RedaDoodles]

Vivien..

[@shootfirst2097]

Vivien Leigh was an absolute English Rose

[@justin3415]

I belive they where good friends as years went on,i remember reading in one of there biographies that when Lombard died. Vivian stayed a few days helping gable with his home and was one of 1st people to contact him after Lombards death.

[@captpicard6894]

Vivien Leigh was Bi-Polar (Manic Depressive) the hyper or mania side of her condition was expressed through her sex drive.

[@cindyirvine7575]

Well remember: The character Scarlet wasn’t really into the character Rhett for most of the movie. Perhaps Vivien used her contempt for Clark for the role.

[@marirothbauer5407]

I would choose Robert Mitchum any day over Clark Gable. Mitchum had that laid back cool persona he was one hot sexy dude. Especially in the movie Macau with Jane Russell their chemistry was hot. I believe they lived next door to each other until his death. Best actors ever. ❤❤❤

[@TheJoan48]

Why didn’t Clark Gable get the Oscar for best actor?

[@Susieq26754]

The British can play anything. They are the best actors and actresses in the world.

[@DeborahMoffett]

This was the most fantastic film ever mummy and daddy watched this from i was young i still watch this film Rhett and Scarlett Melanie and Ashley actors like that will never for second be Forgotten 🍾🍾🥂🥂

[@BeveC21E]

I see in one of these photos, the Oliviers w the Millers! The ladies are as much the stars as their husbands were! Perhaps both ladies may have fared better, if they'd the opportunity to become close friends, given the sad circumstances of their individual lives! May they both have found the peacefulness that had alluded them during their highly successful, professional careers. Loved them both! ❤ ❤ ❤

[@kbchaffin53]

Vivien leigh was some kind of beautiful. Man oh man.

[@Mrrossj01]

Vivian Leigh was bi-polar. One of the symptoms of bi-polar is hyper-sexuality.

[@ferociousgumby]

Words like nymphomania are mercifully not heard much any more. Remember the word "frigid"? You'd have to be pretty old to remember. It means the opposite of nymphomania, but is every bit as pejorative and shaming.

[@janetmaxwell222]

A sexist term.

[@RedaDoodles]

Vivien.

[@Melinda8162]

She used to smack Olivier on the head when he was asleep at night, according to his son. ( Not hers) They had no kids.

[@terrihilder8217]

Also according to Olivier's son Tarquin from his first wife, Olivier was extremely jealous of Vivien's best actress Academy Award for her iconic role of Scarlet in GWTW.

[@jeanzyc.5103]

Love that movie!

[@IrishAnnie]

Vivian Leigh was so in love with Laurence Olivier that Gable would never had turned her head. She miss Olivier so much, a break had to be take so she could meet up with him in middle America. She was looking so tired and worn out, it was necessary.

[@barrylane7264]

You are mistaken, Vivien was sexually7 aggressive for years, and that is what finally ended her marriage to Olivier.

[@llberry2550]

Vivien is one of the most beautiful actress ever!

[@jameswoods6900]

They got along fine and played board games everyday! They were both Amazing and made a great movie!

[@calni7231]

In the novel they both love and hate each other. Playing off of the “hate” is brilliant.

[@nickystripe3303]

I wasn't surprised at all because I had already heard a long time ago that I didn't get along. But work is work, and they both did wonderful jobs. Our American history teacher Took us tosee Gone with the wind on a field trip. Aside from loving the movie, we were gone from school for almost the entire day. Who wouldn't love that?

[@lorildiamond4987]

Wish I went to your school!

[@farinshore8900]

The truth is that they were both good actors.

[@cw-s3582]

Never saw the big deal of macho, tough guy Clark Gable when actors like Laurence Olivier, Tyrone Power were true talents at their craft.

[@bonnieoles4212]

I feel Vivien Leigh was perfect for that role. I don't think anyone else could've played that part anywhere near as well. It's like that was her biggest role in her life... like it was divinely meant to be!

[@flowerofson-shine3539]

They were both in it for themselves. They gave us good movies. That’s where my respect ends.

[@reesemorgan2259]

I read something awful about Selznick - but he made changes to 'Rebecca' (Alfred Hitchcock directed) that I can now see made the film better, more satisfying. He had vision and wasn't just there to do what producers did in those days. Normally if Bette Davis was in the running for a part she'd be cast automatically for me. However Selznick was right to cast Vivien. Joan Fontaine was perfectly cast in Rebecca too.

[@c.a.savage5689]

I almost did not watch this video because l found the very beginning to be degrading to the memory of Vivan Leigh, who was much more than a nymphomaniac. Luckily, the explanations for her behavior (bipolar) were more understandable as the video progressed. It is STILL infuriating that a woman's sexual compulsions fall under the category of medical abnormality while a man's same behavior is seen as normal.

[@jhors7777]

Well researched and presented. Thank you!

[@JudgeJulieLit]

Intentional or not, Gable's nonaffectation of a Southern accent actually supported the characterization of Rhett Butler as an unprincipled opportunist, equivocal in his sympathies and loyalties in the Civil War (when he overlong delayed enlisting to help the Confederate cause) and during Reconstruction, when, for example, he cultivated friendships with the war winning and occupying Yankee higher ups, such as the officer with whom he played cards. He is, although from Charleston South Carolina, more of a cosmopolitan soldier of fortune. Likewise British actor Leslie Howard's refrain from speaking Southern emphasized his temperamental, distant university scholarly (parallel to Robert E. Lee's own education at West Point alongside future Civil War opposing generals) sociopolitical hierarchical aloofness as the heir to Twelve Oakes, his marriage to his kindred soul cousin Melanie foreordained by dynasty duty.

[@ferociousgumby]

It just worked. That's all you can say. It shouldn't have - Vivien Leigh's accent was quite affected, Gable sounded blatantly Northern and Leslie Howard was straight off the boat. But it worked anyway.

[@starrycrown]

Good points, well made.

[@sebastiangnanarajan3541]

Gone with the wind ; my all time favorite

[@scotnick59]

I read that Gable was very polite and helpful towards Vivien. He could have used a great mouthwash, though....

[@rhondawaller4457]

My favorite movie of all time !