How did my Bretonnians do in their first Old World Tournament?!

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You guys watched me paint most of the list I brought along for my first Old World tournament so I felt it was only right to let you guys know how they did in their first games! I attended the first tournament in Ireland at Underworld Gaming, and well..you can watch the video to find out how I did! I'm so happy with the army so far, what are your suggestions for bumping the list up to 1500 points?
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[@ImrahilToChaos]

The Warriors will be back next time! With more chaff to hold up your guys! A quick correction too, my warriors did kill a good few of your Grail Knights! Otherwise though, I got clobbered. 😅

[@MediocreHobbies]

You did indeed. Was a good game.

[@inquisitorsneed2]

Evening good sir

[@MediocreHobbies]

@@inquisitorsneed2 good evening.

[@Emperor-Justinius]

If Knights Errant defeat Chaos Trolls... I think they'd easily become knights of the Realm on the spot! I'd vote Grail Knights

[@MediocreHobbies]

That’s is very true.

[@asierfh10]

Videos like this one, about the game itself and your experience playing it are really apprreciated. Great video!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Glad you liked it pal.

[@gotpaladin9520]

"DONT TOUCH MY PEASANTS!!!" -Baron, probably. Good job on the win and battle report! looking forward to more

[@MediocreHobbies]

Hahah that’s what it felt like.

[@davidm.corbin4643]

"Who ELSE is going to tend my garden knife ear!"

[@garyterry2832]

Three out of three, well done indeed, so inspiring. Makes me want to unbox and paint my 20 year old Grail and Knights of the Realm too, even if they never see the light of the battlefield! 👍

[@MediocreHobbies]

You so should.

[@alexanderfrederick-preece9770]

Maybe a treebucket? (Trebuchet for the uninformed)

[@MediocreHobbies]

Just build one with a really nice inset base like yesterday. So will be doing it soon.

[@geeksworkshop]

With all the premneasuring I can see clocks being brought into play because it is a great way of slowing down the game

[@MediocreHobbies]

I’m not sure what you mean?

[@andrewhetes1623]

This isn’t an issue unless your opponent is purposefully being gamey.

[@geeksworkshop]

@@andrewhetes1623 Yeah I can't see it being an issue down your local club, but tournaments are exactly where you find gamey WAAC players.

[@MrPaxy69]

Clocks are the only way to play Warhammer when you have a schedule to keep. You both are entitled to the exact same amount of time in a game. The other player should not get to steal your resource.

[@Dryzual]

The Baron mused as he watched the men at arms unload barrels of wine for the victory banquet not fifty yards away. The rain had set in for the evening as they struggled moving the heavily burdened carts sinking into the bog. Those filthy peasants have no idea the sacrifice I made saving them from the fate of the fae folk lord he thought.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Hahahhaa best comment ever.

[@prozak97]

For the lady! That's awesome that u got a win on the first foray for your knights!!!! Still working on my army...

[@MediocreHobbies]

Nice pal. Hope your loving the process.

[@josephwalukonis9934]

Congratula/ions on your win!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers man

[@crisisgear]

Going up to 1500 points I'd say at least one unit of bowmen to strip a couple of rank bonuses off the enemy.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Agreed.

[@crusaderyoda3412]

Congratulations, I’d say you definitely deserve the win

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@antonyspencer6222]

Well done Andy, a great result after a brilliant themed week.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@patrickvd7587]

Congrats! You deserved it after all that work. Honor to whom honor is due. 💪

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@jonathanantoine6391]

Fantastic force and great result. It certainly shows that if you prepair for battle you have a ton of advantage. Bretonnia also still looks really strong so the results are there. Great job!

[@MediocreHobbies]

They are quite strong in this edition.

[@geertbeekman8680]

grats on the win

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@mptierney87]

Amazing! Have really appreciated your tutorials and content over the last year or so, first starting with the Cadians and now with Bretonnia. Congratulations on your win, Andy! I was grinning when you let slip you seized the day.

[@MediocreHobbies]

To Kind pal. Far to kind.

[@nicolasperel8026]

Thanks for the feedback, congrats for your win :)

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal. Great games

[@Thaumatolgist]

Congrats! Sounds like awesome fun!

[@MediocreHobbies]

It was great.

[@rayshouse4933]

Congratulations! Sounds like a blast!

[@MediocreHobbies]

It was.

[@ja37d-34]

Nice Bretts! Thanks for the report!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Anytime pal.

[@JKWARGAMES]

Awesome well done on the tournament win!!!!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@greywulfslair]

Congratulation, and very well deserved!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Very kind pal. Thanks.

[@10urion]

Congrats on the win!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@ghostofalltime4934]

Well done mate, you deserve some success after all the Old World love you have been showing recently.

[@MediocreHobbies]

That’s so kind pal. Thank you.

[@intzbk1]

Glad the weekend went well. Thanks for telling us about your army list!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Anytime pal.

[@tomjegan]

Fantastic stuff Andy, top notch effort!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@buchnejf]

Great reports! Subscribed!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@julvatn]

Grats on taking home the win! Keep up the great work 👍

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal will do.

[@scroggie_mini_painting3983]

Congratulations Andy! Well done on the tournament win!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@TheJohnlegg]

Really pleased that you won the event! Great stuff!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@James__V]

Congratulations Andy! What a great set of results! Super pleased for you and your fantastic army!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@Thaumatolgist]

Actually getting to the point of making list it is astonishing how quickly 2000 points go...

[@MediocreHobbies]

I know right?! 1k was easy, making a 2k list is a different story now!

[@mikespaintedminis5100]

What a great result! Sounds like it was an awesome day 🔥

[@MediocreHobbies]

It really was.

[@nallsycody8505]

Well done Andy,good win! Good to see you after so long & continued success with the channel!

[@MediocreHobbies]

To kind pal.

[@elastibus843]

I love this channel. You have the right mix of content. Not going into old world yet, my krieg pile is waiting

[@MediocreHobbies]

It always is. I have so much painted krieg and so so much left to do lol.

[@wardogtabletopgaming2329]

Nice to hear that your vanilla list did as great as it did. No magic items as you said and no hero hammer and you seemed to have smashed all three games.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal. And yes the list did well.

[@Tulkash01]

Well done! Brets are certainly well rounded this edition!

[@MediocreHobbies]

They for sure seam to be. Very happy about that.

[@stoephil]

Congratulations, fellow Bretonnian player.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@T0beyeus]

It is nice to see more tournament results now coming out. How was the army variety? With Bretonnia and Tomb Kings being the first released armies, where they over represented?

[@MediocreHobbies]

Three Bret players and one Tomeking. And no there we a great selection of armies. Most were there was great to see

[@graemenoble7722]

awesome write up! Was hoping to go to WHW, sadly missed out on tickets good luck! keen to see more of this style of content!

[@MediocreHobbies]

You shall see more. Sorry you missed the tickets.

[@lcmiracle]

Love hearing about how you did! I hope to hear more about you listing building method for TOW though

[@MediocreHobbies]

I may do a list breakdown and plans for my warhammer world trip.

[@madmerlinsart]

Congrats! I'm really looking forward to playing some Old World games. As for your next expansion I'm a stickler for the Grail Relique with Battle Pilgrims galore and of course the tree-bucket.(trebuchet)

[@MediocreHobbies]

Same. It’s one of my favorite units in The book. Hell in the whole game.

[@madmerlinsart]

@@MediocreHobbies couldn't agree more! Can't wait to add them to my army.

[@SkinkChief]

Great work bud! Bret question for you: Do Battle Pilgrims get the Blessing of the Lady wardsave, or only the actual Grail Reliquae model?

[@MediocreHobbies]

They do not. Only the dead knight himself.

[@74arcath]

aah hope u had a great time, waiting to get my Dawi to get there stuff. hopefully after Greenksins. Cant wait to make a Army and play

[@MediocreHobbies]

Can’t wait for more people to get started as well love it.

[@kealyj]

Spreading the Underworld love! Hope to face you at some point there when I manage to get an Old World army together, aiming for a Chaos army and inspired by your video showing how to rebase them to work in TOW.

[@MediocreHobbies]

I shall play any and all. Love this game.

[@kealyj]

@@MediocreHobbies I just worked out a 1000 point Warriors of Chaos army that won’t break the bank. It’s happening…

[@MediocreHobbies]

@@kealyj niiice pal. Can’t wait to see it.

[@TheMonkeyden]

I'd love to see your list breakdown with Magic Items and such to inspire some of my lists. TOW is new enough I have no idea what will work compared to back in 6tgh when I played regularly

[@MediocreHobbies]

I will do a video before or after the warhammer world trip. With my list breakdown and the whys I took what I took.

[@simonwiltshire3674]

Glad you enjoyed it. One day I will get some tickets to a warhammer world event, seem to be a lottery/gold dust.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Pretty much. I was very lucky.

[@user-ds8rj2vc4v]

I'd love to see you do a conversion of the Royal Pegasus into a Hippogryhp. We have rules for them, just not a model.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Well I will be painting up the old king model soon to use as my one.

[@jolamber]

They look great 👍🏻

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers pal.

[@alexpoobum]

knights are so strong, looks like an amazing army

[@MediocreHobbies]

It was good fun using them.

[@ramblingbadger]

Well done sir!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers.

[@johnshank5136]

details about the faceoff of your general with the Wood Elves’ would be cool.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Wasn’t much to say. I charged in and he got wrecked lol. Silly pointy ear.

[@sethran9447]

Cool video, definitely looking forward to my first games next week! What was your favourite model from your opponent’s side? (Whether due to painting, conversion, nostalgia at an old mini )

[@MediocreHobbies]

Loved seeing the unit of fully painted old chaos trolls. Even back before I never seen them.

[@Anvilarm07]

Congrats. For 1500 points add 20 archers, make your Damsel level 3 for that 24 inch dispell, and throw in a few magic items and vows. Good luck.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Ye something like that. Can’t have my baron won’t a level 3/4 damsel so would have to upgrade him to a Duke and all that. So it’s a big change.

[@zachmoss8896]

awesome

[@MediocreHobbies]

It was great fun.

[@pleasantpeasant3313]

Just curious about which rules people are using. I understand that Brettonia, Tomb Kings and the ‘legacy’ factions have new rules for the old work but what about factions like orcs and goblins that are yet to get their (re)release? Are there faction rules within the main book, and are these just what each faction gets in their own books?

[@MediocreHobbies]

All armies have new rules.

[@Jason-man-in-black]

Glad the event went well 🙂

[@MediocreHobbies]

It was awesome.

[@user-yr5eh6mv4f]

hello, thanks for the review, any chance to find your list details somewhere ?

[@MediocreHobbies]

Emmm currently no. But perhaps in the future after the warhammer world event.

[@The0Bored0Network]

Woohoo, well done Andy. Still showing off 😂

[@MediocreHobbies]

Hahhaha always.

[@aalagerwaard]

If I have a Character in an outer lance slot, are all the opp fighting rank considered in base contact with that character and can direct all their attacks to it?

[@MediocreHobbies]

Yes indeed.

[@geertbeekman8680]

how would you have done if you did replace the men of arms with archers?? as magic spel i do like glittering robes(-1 to hit) from illusions and replace one of your spells for the ladys gift (regenerate 56+/5+)

[@MediocreHobbies]

Well I didn’t have the points for archers. The list was so tight.

[@markysgeeklab8783]

I'm probably not going to the 1st tournament near me because I don't have a rule book yet. Hope GW organize themselves soon.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Yeah it’s been hard to get the books!

[@Tukenukemus]

My suggestion is to take a unit of Questing Knights & Mounted Yeomen, so you have the entire Bretonnia cavalry line in one army list!

[@MediocreHobbies]

I was honestly thinking the same big without the yeoman. If I add the questing I’d have all the knights in the book in one army.

[@Tukenukemus]

@@MediocreHobbies If there's one unit to cut out, It's definitely the filthy peasants. They would make all your other knights look even better in comparison, though.

[@MediocreHobbies]

@@Tukenukemus can’t. Have to take at least one unit in the army.

[@Tukenukemus]

@@MediocreHobbies I was referring to the Yeomen, not the men-at-arms.

[@dparrot7561]

1) Were Legacy armies allowed in the tournament? 2) Would you show us how you make lists for different point caps?

[@MediocreHobbies]

They were indeed allowed. As far as I can see from the chatter. Only GW events won’t allow legacy armies. Every other event seams keen.

[@charlesthomashanley]

You're going to need a way to kill a dragon (items on a Duke?) if you're going up to 1500 at WHW.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Oh yes he is already planned. And he will make a mess of most hero’s no matter what there riding.

[@redpill4145]

I'm about to start painting the britonian starter box myself. I'm unsure how I want to do the 2 units of knights though. I'm leaning towards both units being knights of the realm. I'm torn on doing g an over all army paint scheme like GW did with the red\black or going for somthing totally different. Should I save the more fancy and colorful pageantry for when I can get my hands on some grail or questing knights or do that with my knights of the relm?? Appreciate some advice!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Have you watched my painting videos? It does take a while if you're doing individual colors for every knight! I do a bit of a mix, I have a large amount of red and black forces that in my head come from the Lord who would have brought along the biggest army to the fight. Then there's some units with a different colour scheme(but they all match) that have come from a neighbouring lord. For my Grail Knights and Questing Knights(that I'm currently painting on youtube) I decided to treat them as special characters because their units are made up of knights from different areas traditionally. Basically I'd think about what the story of your army is. If it one large army on the move under one Lord? Has he called in some favours to fight a larger enemy that will affect the Realm? That might be the best way to decide? I hope this helps, and make sure you check out all the schemes I've done so far in case they help too!

[@redpill4145]

@@MediocreHobbies yep I never miss a video! I love your content! And I think you hit the nail on the head. I think for my main army I'll be doing a somewhat similar scheme for them all. Then when I get my hands on (if they ever come back in stock) a unit of grail and questing knights I'll do them up in the individualized colorful way. Thanks for letting me pick your brain.

[@MediocreHobbies]

@@redpill4145 Anytime pal

[@redpill4145]

@@MediocreHobbies I don't seem to see any vids of you painting ypur main nights however. Just the grail and questing nights.

[@MediocreHobbies]

@@redpill4145 the lord on pegasus is in the red/black scheme, plus the blue knight is another unit scheme

[@musictheorywizard4799]

275 for adding your green knight to a higher point battle list will bring you nothing but joy!

[@MediocreHobbies]

I mean I really want to.

[@musictheorywizard4799]

@@MediocreHobbies I find him to be a great utility. The options are endless. I mean he can teleport, what else would you want?! 😅

[@AksarOfficial]

Ushoran tutorial coming?

[@MediocreHobbies]

Yep

[@AksarOfficial]

@@MediocreHobbies so excited for that hHa! Let's gooooo

[@ep1kone]

1500 points opens up dragons so being able to get monster killer or multiple wounds is clutch. Tooling up the baron plus a prophetess and a bsb and you’re done with not much extra painting.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Ye for sure the Barron need to be tooled up fully. And yes to deal with with monsters. I do fancy a bsb perhaps on a peg as well and a lvl4 would be nice but I’m not adding much pinch to the army this way. It’s a tough one.

[@ep1kone]

It’s less direct punch more counter to the boogeymen rising up. As primary HE player, if I have a dragon nothing you have bothers me. It will stomp anything in the list and roll into the next thing next turn. The lvl 4 is more a counter to enemy vortex’s or buffs to blunt your charges. The plus 3 inch deny makes them a viable play where the enemy has trouble denying you back. BSB is just to help those leadership checks when you get stuck in and don’t wipe something first turn.

[@TheMichaellathrop]

So I know you can get printable water slide transfer sheets, so what about typing out unit and individual model deeds in a calligraphy font and then printing it in a ridiculously small font size then cut out and apply them to the mini's in question? You would probably need to number the mini's on the underside of their bases and wait till you have a pages worth to print. "How dare thee thou knife eared knavish gelding, those peasants belong to me!!!"

[@MediocreHobbies]

Hahahhaa love it.

[@RAWxxx07]

Thx really interesting. Would love to get some feedback by a dwarfen player as well, since I run these two factions :)

[@MediocreHobbies]

I do love me some dwarfs.

[@nicolasperel8026]

Did you notice linehammer or dragon abuse at the tournament?

[@MediocreHobbies]

Nope nether happed it this event.

[@LichKing36]

When will u paint some more dwarfs

[@MediocreHobbies]

Soon pal. Soon. Any preference on what you want to see?

[@LichKing36]

@@MediocreHobbies hope u do either king on shieldbearers or anvil of doom or both

[@donkratos5627]

✊🧐

[@MediocreHobbies]

Cheers!

[@sclarke6969]

Did they actually legacy factions btw?

[@ImrahilToChaos]

They did! THere were Lizardmen and Beastmen to name just a pair I personally saw.

[@sclarke6969]

@@ImrahilToChaos Where was it based? I've just moved to CoCavan and keen to break out the old 1990s VC if I can find anyone brave enough to witness the horrific paint jobs!

[@MediocreHobbies]

Yep they allowed them for sure.

[@sclarke6969]

know a few tournament organisers are counting it a 1st to achieve breakage gets x victory points rather than just game ends 1000-0

[@MediocreHobbies]

Ahhh ye I’d figure they would have figured it out. Do you know how many points.?

[@sclarke6969]

@@MediocreHobbies I'd need to check.. feel like it was 500. few of the organisers had been talking about it but watch so many I would be 100%misquoting if I claimed any specifically...maybe the Triple Crown guys who did the 8th Ed tournament rules, possibly Dr Blaxill aswell?

[@ollikainulainen9590]

Nice army and well played! Unfortunately for us wood elf players they are (again) bad in this edition:/ Old world hasnt impressed me at all, because they made this edition "close combat"-edition and no, i dont want spells or shooting from 8th. I just want shooting to be worth points (for the armies that definitely are shooting army, like welfs), now they are mostly waste of points. Way watchers are totally unusable in this edition...

[@MediocreHobbies]

Thanks for the breakdown I hope your wrong and we just haven’t figured it out yet. I hope it’s to early to tell.

[@mweaver6037]

Congrats! But if you keep winning tournaments, you may have to change out that "Mediocre" in the channel's name. -Michael

[@MediocreHobbies]

Hahahahhaa cheers.

[@ashlevrier]

Really we are doing tournaments now with old world. The game just came out. Take your tournament having *** elsewhere.

[@MediocreHobbies]

Hahahhaa it was more of a gaming day. So we could all learn the rules.