How did the ARAMAIC and SYRIAC language affect Islam?

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@cosmokaulitz22
@cosmokaulitz22 3 жыл бұрын
To deny the influence of Aramaic is quite arrogant... Aramaic influence Hebrew and Arabic in many ways.
@walkerjobe6964
@walkerjobe6964 3 жыл бұрын
They all influenced each other. That's how it is, all ways. It aint no one way thing.
@walkerjobe6964
@walkerjobe6964 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHPcmppmZ9t9ja8
@robleyusuf2566
@robleyusuf2566 Ай бұрын
Armaic used to be official language of Middleast
@gofoxgt3418
@gofoxgt3418 2 жыл бұрын
Im proud Syriac Aramean☦️
@AngelicaHutchinson1
@AngelicaHutchinson1 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing ❤
@gofoxgt3418
@gofoxgt3418 2 жыл бұрын
@@AngelicaHutchinson1 Thanks❤️
@AngelicaHutchinson1
@AngelicaHutchinson1 2 жыл бұрын
@@gofoxgt3418 can you teach me your language I want to learn it but when I search up about it, I don't really see much information on it🥺
@gofoxgt3418
@gofoxgt3418 2 жыл бұрын
@@AngelicaHutchinson1 Im so sorry i dont know how to help you but there is videos or apps on appstore that makes you learn Syriac the Aramean language
@MegaFarkh
@MegaFarkh 4 жыл бұрын
That's what it's called a non academic research
@alessioleporati1478
@alessioleporati1478 5 жыл бұрын
They are all Semitic languages. One didn’t come first. They all descended from and were influenced by proto Semitic which had the world Allah in. Muhammad didn’t just make up the word Allah and coin it for his own religion. This woman doesn’t know how Semitic languages work.
@ullasseguro160
@ullasseguro160 3 жыл бұрын
Before Mohammed only Makka Mushriks considered Allah as God. But their God had 3 daughters named Latha, Ussa and Manatha
@lets_wrapitup
@lets_wrapitup 3 жыл бұрын
@@ullasseguro160 no that isn’t what ‘Allah’ is, they just called their idols Allah because that’s what God in Arabic is 🤦‍♂️
@Joleyn-Joy
@Joleyn-Joy 3 жыл бұрын
@@lets_wrapitup allah means "the god" while "god" is "illah". The difference is that in islam, allah isn't just a word, it's also the name of the deity.
@lets_wrapitup
@lets_wrapitup 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joleyn-Joy no it’s not the name of your deity. I’m surprised you understand Allah is ‘the God’ and illah is merely just any god and not THE God. But then you go one to say it’s the name of the deity... as if it’s made up... monotheistic non Muslim Arabs (funny because I say ‘non Muslim’, but in technicality that’s wrong because Muslim means submitter in Arabic, and nothing more, it’s not the name of a follower, it’s just a label for something or someone that submits, but since non believers don’t believe in Quran, they simultaneously attribute Arabic words to mean things limited to a religion, supposedly the religion of Islam. When in reality, when you read the Quran, and the Quran only, and you obey it, it doesn’t make you follow a religion, it just makes you follow God. Religions are man made, man made traditions passed down from each other. And if you ever see religion translated in the Quran, it doesn’t mean religion. It means ‘in debt’ and its referring to ‘the debt’, which is the most important debt anyone has, the debt towards God. Just like how Muslim means nothing more than submitter, and it means just submitter, but when using the word, it is most of the time used in a format where we understand they are ‘Muslim to God’ ‘ in submission to God’)
@LoverOFhopeANDcompassion
@LoverOFhopeANDcompassion 3 жыл бұрын
i was raised maronite boarding with nuns in Bdadoon Lebanon from age of 4 to 12 (1975 to 1982) Over the years i came to question why Arabic is the dominant language? its an invasive one from the gulf. What did my ancestors speak? I see myself asa judean (near east-Levant) not as an Arab (gulf) I have an intense interest to learn Syriac or Hebrew or Aramaic for they represent aconnection to who i really am.
@Sarawni
@Sarawni 3 жыл бұрын
You can learn Aramaic. It is never too late. KZbin have a lot of videos. And if you live in a country with Assyrian church of East then I am 100% sure they offer classes were you can learn Aramaic☺️
@Al-ke9tk
@Al-ke9tk 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you. Hope you learn more about your roots.
@Al-ke9tk
@Al-ke9tk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sarawni Are there online lessons? I find very little resources to learn Syriac Aramaic. ☹️
@Sarawni
@Sarawni 3 жыл бұрын
@@Al-ke9tk have You tried on app-store? There is a lot of apps were You Can Learn if You search “assyrian” . I hope it Can help ☺️
@AbdulKhader-786
@AbdulKhader-786 4 жыл бұрын
Aramaic is a beautiful language
@cholaghbutcher1
@cholaghbutcher1 2 жыл бұрын
it is a beautiful language. Aramaic did not die out it evolved by the 7th century AD and became chaldean assyrian mandean and Syriac languages. i speak at least 3 dialects chaldean asshuri and botani. sadly its endangered we have 4 to 5 million speakers most are bilingual and its speakers are switching to other languages
@AbdulKhader-786
@AbdulKhader-786 2 жыл бұрын
@@cholaghbutcher1 you should teach an online course on the side
@cholaghbutcher1
@cholaghbutcher1 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbdulKhader-786 i am a proud speaker and will continue till the day i die
@maaduchvdaziachi9872
@maaduchvdaziachi9872 3 жыл бұрын
Also Arabic didn't come from Aramaic or Hebrew, they all came from proto Central Semitic so they are all related. It's like saying Spanish came from French or vice versa. Actually Arabic retains some more conversative Semitic features like pharyngeal consonants that have been lost in Modern Hebrew and some Aramaic varieties.
@cosmokaulitz22
@cosmokaulitz22 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to phonetics, yes Arabic is more conservative. But that's debatable... However, Hebrew is more conservative when it comes to creates new words since it goes directly to semitic roots to create new words though Hebrew isn't very conservative phonetically as Arabic.
@odaenathus7825
@odaenathus7825 3 жыл бұрын
@@cosmokaulitz22 What people call “Hebrew” is a very primitive and “poor” language that they had to borrow many words from other languages.
@rhetoric5173
@rhetoric5173 3 жыл бұрын
@@cosmokaulitz22 Debatable? Really? Hebrew to Arabic is like Jamaican English to British English.
@ישעיהובן-תורה
@ישעיהובן-תורה 3 жыл бұрын
@@odaenathus7825 I beg to differ although it is true that it has some borrowed words...as did all ancient languages.
@abdullahalrai
@abdullahalrai 3 жыл бұрын
Semitic Languages Grouping: Eastern > Akkadian (Babylonian and Assyrian) North Western > Canaanite (North - Ugaritic / South - Hebrew, Phoenician & Others) Aramaic (Samaritan, Nabatean, Mandaean, Syriac and others) South Western > Arabic (Ancient Arabic & Classical) Ethiopian (Amharic) Therefore, Arabic and Aramaic are ifrom two separate groupings, besides Arabic Conservatively retained their Consonants and Phonology then Aramaic and Hebrew ARMAIC $ HEBREW - אבגד הוז חטי כלמנ סעפצ קרשת ARABIC - أبجد هوز حطي كلمن سعفص قرشت ثخذ ضظغ As can be seen Arabic retains 6 more letters that has been lost in Aramaic and Hebre languages , for e.g, they use ש for three different Arabic letters س ش ث and צ for 2 Arabic ص ض so on and so forth, therefore for some Semitic words they have lost the actual sound and pronunciation of those letters because it was represented by only one letter, so when other nations adapted Judaism and Christianity they couldn’t able tell the difference as how to differentiate those letters, whereas in Arabic, since they were very conservative about their language and its phonology and Consonants, they retain their phonology and consonants throughout centuries, that is the reason Arabic is still remain in its pure and original form. Not only that, thanks to Arabic language and its grammar, it helped other dead Semitic languages like Aramaic, Hebrew and Syriac to revive back once again.
@wb1847
@wb1847 4 жыл бұрын
Proto semitic phonology is actually closer to arabic not aramaic
@BenjaminExequielReyesGaete
@BenjaminExequielReyesGaete 6 ай бұрын
It depends the sound J is not found in ancient Hebrew, Yemenite Jews adapted that sound from Arabic. It depends on which language you compare Arabic is closer phonetically to ancient Hebrew dialects than Modern Hebrew, but modern Aramaic is probably still closer to ancient Aramaic phonetically than Arabic. All is very relative to the language you trying to compare to it, it's not wrong your statement but it's so simplistic and does not care for important details.
@preapple
@preapple 3 жыл бұрын
Nabatean Aramaic eventually became Arabic. Al Hajjaj commissioned the creation of a holy book for the Arabs called the Quran in kufa. Much of Aramaic lectionaries were translated and incorporated
@MrEdzeeray
@MrEdzeeray 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@cognitiveblues
@cognitiveblues 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrEdzeeray Nothing funny. Look up" Thomas Alexander" channel
@MrEdzeeray
@MrEdzeeray 2 жыл бұрын
MuhamMad53,violatedAisha 9 do you look up your history through our sources? Bruh are you dumb
@herooja
@herooja 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know which respected semeitic language expert holds such view? I have yet to see one
@GabrielBossChabo
@GabrielBossChabo 3 жыл бұрын
Aramaic is Syriac just let me Correct you , it’s my nationality & Proud Identity & language, We have nothing to do with the f,,,,,,k Assyrian or Arab , they are a new folk , We’re over 40 millions in the world
@s4bc
@s4bc 3 жыл бұрын
you are insane
@wahidsaifudeen1651
@wahidsaifudeen1651 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Muslim but not an Arab know a bit about Aramaic, the language spoken by Jesus Christ. Therefore I believe it is more important for Christians to know about Aramaic than the Muslims. Despite Aramaic being the language of Jesus, all the New Testament books were written in Greek. No Christian knows exactly what words uttered by their lord Jesus., except "Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani" Anyway thanks for your info.
@anyaforger8409
@anyaforger8409 4 жыл бұрын
My response is the Jews at the time of Jesus spoke Koine Greek when communicating to the Romans and Greek is the Lingua Franca of Europe this was also enforced on Eastern possessions of Ancient Rome. As the result, it did not only Hellenized Jews (Saint Paul is a Jew who wrote in Koine Greek) but it also largely replaced the Hebrew Torah with Septuagint (Greek Translated Torah) among Jews.
@Al-ke9tk
@Al-ke9tk 3 жыл бұрын
And that still means a lot to Christians, we know that he died on the cross. And also there are other Syriac words such as Talitha cumi. As more research happens we will discover more hidden pearls in Aramaic Christianity.
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 3 жыл бұрын
There's a great video from an Israeli on historian on how Jesus was most likely using Hebrew when speaking to his disciples. Just search Israeli historian Jesus spoke Hebrew. In the time of Jesus Hebrew was still the language of the Torah and used as a liturgical language. Aramaic was the language of the common speak and Greek the language of the administration. We know Romans used local administration in far flung provinces and the government was based in Damascus and through Alexander the great the entire region had become very Hellenized so its possible Jesus knew Greek.
@maximuselgrande1513
@maximuselgrande1513 3 жыл бұрын
What was the effect in Islam????
@AmrateMoustafa
@AmrateMoustafa 6 жыл бұрын
0:18 It's very wrong to say and generalize that Muslims don't know anything about the Aramaic language. You would be surprised by how much clerics know about this language. It's just that they ignore it as it shows the historical side of religion that takes away its saintliness. Very nice video, keep up the good work.
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 жыл бұрын
Moustafa Amrate I dont think so. Based on my anecdotal observation, even my Arabic expert in my university dont even know the influences of Syriac-Aramaic language on Quran. They truly believe that all the words in Quran was Arabic and perfect.
@Far7anR
@Far7anR 6 жыл бұрын
To Nick John: Moustafa stated that Islamic scholarship is aware of Aramaic and it's place in the Abrahamic faiths. The reason why both Moustafa and your Arabic expert at university did not comment on the Syriac-Aramaic influence on the Qur'an is simply because such influence is not recognized by the majority of Arabic and Qur'anic scholarship, both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars. You cannot just watch a video on KZbin and assume that it is factual. You should probably trust the experts and scholars over KZbinrs and sensationalist documentaries. You can see my own comment to this video for more details.
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 жыл бұрын
Well thank you for the comment. I based my comment on my own anecdotal experience in my university. Im in STEM program, but I did occasionally talk to friends in Islamic Studies. Well most of them dont even recognize the Syriac-Aramaic influence in the Quran. Most of them truly believe that Quran only in classical arabic language. And I had to agree with them as the Quran itself was clear about it. The Quran stated that it was written in Arab language in few verses. >The reason why both Moustafa and your Arabic expert at university did not comment on the Syriac-Aramaic influence on the Qur'an is simply because such influence is not recognized by the majority of Arabic and Qur'anic scholarship, both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars. I agree. But the push for this dogma is not done by Muslim Scholar. But by non muslim scholar especially the revisionist school of Islam. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_school_of_Islamic_studies The Syriac-Aramaic influence is mostly work by this scholar, Christoph Luxenberg : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Luxenberg. So I assume you are a muslim right? Well sometimes the work, research that we done influenced by our own confirmation and cognitive bias. That is why it is hard for this work to be accepted in the mainstream muslim teaching. No offense to you, but this bias also prevalent in scientific journal, but scientific journal do have mechanism to prevent this, ie using statistics, P value and peer reviewed research. This is not the same as for Quranic and hadith studies as, how shall I put it, Im going to be blunt here, some of the work if published by the Muslim, that Muslim will be "takfir" as Kaffir or punished under blasphemy act. So in this preconceive notion of selective speech, I conclude that the reason why the notion of Syriac-Aramaic influence in the Quran is because the Muslim scholar reject this notion of "contradiction". And I admit, this is highly controversial. But I leave it up to you to decide.
@Far7anR
@Far7anR 6 жыл бұрын
> "Well most of them dont even recognize the Syriac-Aramaic influence in the Quran." They way you phrase it makes it sounds as if they are denying something as obvious as a spherical earth. In reality, the Syriac-Aramaic hypothesis is about as valid as the flat earth theory itself. I know it is getting popular among ex-Muslims and Christian apologists and whatnot but they are just using it as ammunition and haven't actually produced anything scholarly or cogent. I really can't fathom how you could give this theory any weight except that you have been listen to too many people with an agenda but no scholarly honesty. Here are a non-Muslim scholars speaking on Luxenberg: *Daniel King* , a Syriacist at the University of Cardiff (he is one of those scholars that does actually believe that Islam borrowed from Christianity, as opposed to Islam and Christianity being both divine traditions revealed by the same God, and his review on Luxenberg reflects this): "Luxenberg's meta-theory of Qur'ānic origins is *not proved* by the evidence he sets forth in this book." *Angelika Neuwirth* , professor of Quranic studies from Freie University: "[...] an *extremely pretentious hypothesis* which is unfortunately relying on rather *modest foundations* [...] limits himself to a very mechanistic, positivist linguistic method without caring for theoretical considerations developed in modern linguistics" *François de Blois* , professor at University of Cambridge: "not a work of scholarship but of dilettantism [...] [Luxemberg's] grasp of Syriac is limited to knowledge of dictionaries" You linked me to a page on the Revisionist School - which is really just a terrible, terrible mess of things, one that is really unfounded and plagued with assumptions and agendas and whatnot, but here is what one *well-known Revisionist, Patricia Crone* , said on Luxemberg: "[Luxemberg's book is] *open to so many scholarly objections* [...] notably *amateurism* ..." As far as your point on bias goes, I think that the history of Islamic scholarship shows that the scholars were definitely not afraid to question everything and dig deep as far as I can. Not only did the ask and dig, but they recorded and made known what they found and thought. The majority of anti-Islam apologetics is based on ahadith or material written and shared by Muslim scholars. Muslim scholars did not erase controversial narrations - even fabricated narrations were recorded and passed down (but identified as fabricated - and even then, scholars were not afraid to argue over veracity of the narrations). All Islamic material, including the Qur'an itself, was always in the hands of the public, and official compilations were made to officially and systematically preserve disseminate knowledge, as opposed to construct an official canon. Honestly, the reason why the Syriac-Aramaic hypothesis is not accepted is simply because it just makes no sense, and this is something generally agreed by both Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Instead, I advise you to consider that perhaps it is the people like Luxemberg and Salsalah and others that have the problematic agendas and biases in this situation. We don't even know who Luxemberg is, and people like the Christian apologists and Salsalah have clear, clear agendas that do not include scrupulous scholarship.
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 жыл бұрын
Far7anR Yes, thats why Im abit caution about this hypothesis. Btw, Revisionism make a good point especially the suppose historical claim of Sira and Hadith. Quran itself can be disputed as the earliest codex was 60-80 years after Muhammad death. Plenty of time for changes. Not only that, the suppose Uthman original codex did not even exist. The only record we have on early Quran were Birmingham, Sanaa etc. Sanaa scripture itself deviates from mainstream Quran today as it differ from verses and content. Historian dont see eye to eye with Muslim scholars on this issue. And that is bad news for Islam in general.
@JeanChedid19
@JeanChedid19 3 жыл бұрын
Some maronites in Lebanon still speak Syriac since it’s the liturgical language. We call it Suryoyo tho
@aharonfernandez6359
@aharonfernandez6359 6 жыл бұрын
Jews use Aramaic (babylonian rabbinic Aramaic) too and its similar enough to Syriac for me to read syriac after learning script without learning anything else.
@georgeclooney5836
@georgeclooney5836 5 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Aramaic_languages
@TheCopticParabolanos
@TheCopticParabolanos 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Aramaic of the Talmud Bavli really that similar to classical Syriac?
@aharonfernandez6359
@aharonfernandez6359 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCopticParabolanos yes...but also...no...but also yes. Talmudic aramaic has alot of words that have been reduced and truncated and alot of Greek and Hebrew. The Aramaic of The Targums however (which is still Babylonian rabbinic Aramaic) is very very close to Syriac. Compare OT Peshtita to different targums and it's often word for word identical
@TheCopticParabolanos
@TheCopticParabolanos 2 жыл бұрын
@@aharonfernandez6359 thank you sir. I’m studying Classical Arabic and Greek currently. Syriac/Aramaic and Hebrew are on the list so I’m still considering what dialect to focus on
@cholaghbutcher1
@cholaghbutcher1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCopticParabolanos classical Hebrew is close to Aramaic modern hebrew is garbage.
@زنكي
@زنكي 3 жыл бұрын
why the word Aramaic and arabaic is so similar? is Arabic just the new Aramaic or Aramaic is the old Arabic language?
@waliul280
@waliul280 4 жыл бұрын
Muslims don't believe Arabic is eternal language. its only the Qur'an that is eternal. Not the writings of ink in Arabic, not the language, but what the meaning of Quran refers, that is eternal. because Muslims believe its Word of God
@sameka7664
@sameka7664 4 жыл бұрын
word Allah and Ilah is different in arabic eloh is equivalent to Ilah....but Allah...
@redpillscience1288
@redpillscience1288 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@vivliforia2262
@vivliforia2262 3 жыл бұрын
ALLAH = AL (the) iLAH (god)= the god. Pronounced fast= Allah.
@sulaimanalharmosh6017
@sulaimanalharmosh6017 6 жыл бұрын
I m an Arab orthodox eastern from Jordan 🇯🇴 respect
@gusbuluda
@gusbuluda 5 жыл бұрын
Respect to you brother. But you know that the christian orthodox from Jordan are Arameans? Read about the Aramean history in Jordan... You can take distance courses in Uppsala University in Sweden about Aramean history and impact
@AbdAllah-eg1gg
@AbdAllah-eg1gg 6 жыл бұрын
You seem to have a hate towards the arabic language and the muslims in general. The reason I'm saying this is that Arabic and Aramaic HAVE THE SAME ROOTS. So OBVIOUSLY, some words will be SIMILAR. But don't come and say that Aramaic INFLUENCED Arabic. They have COMMON words due to their ROOTS,( you can even see that in the diagram you put in your video). Peace, from a Lebanese Muslim
@syriaslover9558
@syriaslover9558 6 жыл бұрын
Good video but I have some objections. Arabic, Aramaic and Hebrew are cousins. Supposedly those are of the languages of Shem descendants which evolved overtime. Same goes with Arabic and Aramaic similarities, the root words are cousins not from each others.
@yussef961
@yussef961 6 жыл бұрын
@Aram Beth so by definition they are cousin
@yussef961
@yussef961 6 жыл бұрын
@Aram Beth yes of course swedish and german are cousins, and so are all the indo european language (again by definition), maybye you should check what "cousin" means before going any further,
@yussef961
@yussef961 6 жыл бұрын
@Aram Beth turkish is not a cousin of arabic it's not semitic at all
@محمدالعمري-ز9و
@محمدالعمري-ز9و 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I also think. I think this woman is too emotional.
@MarouaneChriss
@MarouaneChriss 6 жыл бұрын
You are right Syria's Lover. I do not know why they insist on a fallacy saying Arabic has Aramaic origins?
@tomytoma4280
@tomytoma4280 5 жыл бұрын
I do not agree , Arabic is not from Aramaic, its another semitic language, yes similar like God Allah in Ar, and Aloho, in Sy, because both are Semitic, its very true that Arabic alphabet is from Syrian-Aramaic Alphabet and that Shami Arabic from Levant Syria Lebanon is a mix of Syriac and Arabic.
@ahmadrama9802
@ahmadrama9802 4 жыл бұрын
- Did Aramic affect Arabic? Sure, no question about that, it was the official language of the Assyrians Empire. - Did Akkadian affect Aramic? Sure, Akkadian was the old language of the old Assyrians. - Did Phoenician affect Aramic? Very likely, it was the language of the great old Phoenicians. - Did old Yemenis Languages affect Arabic? Sure, there were great civilizations in old Yemen, that had their influence. This is how languages develop, and no one should feel superior because of his language, and that is what I sense in this channel.
@eho6380
@eho6380 4 жыл бұрын
The information is actually false (probably based on oral tradition or your hypotheses(s)). Arabic and Aramaic are Semitic languages both are from the branch of ''Northwest Semitic languages'', that's the reason why they sound so familiar. So no, Aramaic/Syriac didn't affect Arabic. According to your logic since German and English sound, the same, English affected German or German affected English. This is obviously false since they're Germanic languages and because of this share many similarities.
@kh4lilaz281
@kh4lilaz281 3 жыл бұрын
@@eho6380 u have a big mouth
@primatalogico1162
@primatalogico1162 3 жыл бұрын
@@eho6380 This is false and goes against everything in Linguistics and Logic ! Ahmad said they "affected" which doesn't imply "made" ... Arabic has Aramaic influences but the doesn't mean that Arabic is a descendant of Aramaic ! Maybe we'll find more information where Arabic does turn out to be a descendant of Aramaic but for now no ! It only has influences ! More over the analogies do not apply(bcz i believe u misunderstood Ahmad) ! A small example would be words such as Computer, Gateaux, Foustan .. that come from different languages but are attested in Middle Easter langauges
@eho6380
@eho6380 3 жыл бұрын
@@kh4lilaz281 U have no Brain
@markorbit4752
@markorbit4752 3 жыл бұрын
@@eho6380 But german is older than english and is influenced english.
@nimrodlevy
@nimrodlevy 2 жыл бұрын
Well the 1st written semitic language recorded was Akkadian. Than Ugarit and than Aramit (+/- 1.1kbce) so the origin is kinda vage, I don't think its fair to say this comes from that rathar, this influenced that... As a Ivrit speaker i can tell you that speaker of ivrit say many many aramit worda and aravit words in daily bases and vice versa...
@user-zx6ki8lr5l
@user-zx6ki8lr5l 4 жыл бұрын
اللغة الارامية هي لهجة عربية قديمة ،اللغة الارامية عدد حروفها 22 حرف فقط بينما العربية 29 حرف مع الهمزة ،اذا كانت حقا اللغة العربية مشتقة من السريانية فمن اين اتت الحروف ال7 في اللغة العربية هناك حروف في العربية لا توجد في الارامية و ذلك دليل قاطع على ان اسطورة ان اللغة العربية مشتقة من السريانية مجرد اسطورة و ايضا عدد مفردات اللغة العربية 12مليون مفردة بينما لا نجد هذا الكم كله من المفردات في اللغة الارامية و هذا دليل على ان العربية لم تشتق من اي لغة بل العبرية و الارامية و الفينيقية و الاشورية و .... هي مجرد لهجات عربية قديمة و انقرضت و البقاء للغة الأصل والاقوى و الاصعب ألا و هي اللغة العربية
@kh4lilaz281
@kh4lilaz281 3 жыл бұрын
اللغة العربية عندها 12 مليون كلمة بدون تكرار🙂👍
@primatalogico1162
@primatalogico1162 3 жыл бұрын
This is beyond false and linguistically insane not to mention the illogical analysis ! I comment on a few points since the amount of misinformation is staggering ! -Alphabet & languages are 2 separate things 🤦‍♂️ The Greeks took the Alphabet from the Phoenicians (modern day Levantines) and added lots of letters (vowels) ! this does not mean that the 2 languages are related (ofc their are influences !) -The Arabic alphabet clearly came from Aramaic but that doesn't mean that Arabic is an Aramaic language nor the other way around ! -The amount of words a language has, though no linguistic consensus can be reached to count the number of words, is also unrelated since Arabic has been developing for numerous years whereas Aramaic pretty much stopped ! This misinformation is quite common in the Arab world and due to Arabist propaganda but has absolutely no linguistic bases !
@SalahBroadcasting
@SalahBroadcasting 6 жыл бұрын
Arabic , Hebrew and Aramaic did not borrow from each other. All they have in similarity are the same roots of the larger language group which is Semitic.. you can not say Hebrew took the word “Ellah” or Arabic, the word “Allah”, from Aramaic. These languages took the root from the Sementic. However, you are right if you say Urdu borrowed the word “Allah” from Arabic. To prove you are wrong, the word NO in English is No in French, Nya in Hindi, Net in Russian , and Na, Ne, Ni, Nu, in other Indo-European Languages. Can you tell me which borrowed which? None of these languages borrowed this word, but rather they shared the same root of the word because these languages belong to a lager group language which, Indo-European language.
@Far7anR
@Far7anR 6 жыл бұрын
Everything this girl says is based on the idea that Arabic originated from Aramaic. That is just flat out untrue, as both are cousin languages but from different branches and with different histories - this is common linguistics knowledge. Syriac is from Aramaic, and Aramaic is a North Central Semitic language. Arabic is a South Central Semitic language, and developed independently. Also, she makes a lot of weird points and assertions about how Arabs and Muslims feel or think that are also untrue. For more, look up Hamza Tzortzis on the matter of Aramaic origins and Dr. Umar Farud Abd-Allah's "One God, Many Names" lecture and/or article. The weird thing is, Muslims are generally the first to speak up on this issue, especially about the analogs of "Allah" in other language, to show that Allah a deity common to everyone, and the Qur'an presents Allah is the One True God, the God of the Jews and Christians and of every truly revealed religion. Arabic nonMuslims refer to God as Allah, even the Jews and Christians who spoke with the Messenger Muhammad, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and today Arabic Bibles use "Allah" to refer to God. What a truly misinformed and misleading video.
@risan3022
@risan3022 6 жыл бұрын
It is somewhat true. It says here too www.quora.com/What-is-the-relationship-between-Aramaic-and-Arabic "Aramaic is the ancestral language to both Arabic and Hebrew. Both languages developed from Aramaic. Pre-Israelite inhabitants living around the Dead Sea spoke Aramaic, and then their language later developed into Hebrew. Pre-Nabatean inhabitants living in the deserts of Jordan also spoke a form of Nabatean Aramaic which was only a dialect, until the language developed into Arabic. In both Arabic and Hebrew most of the words, if not all, are borrowed from Aramaic."
@Far7anR
@Far7anR 6 жыл бұрын
Quora is a question and answer site, not an educational reference site. Althought Quora definitely has higher standards than, say, Yahoo! Answers, it is still basically just strangers telling others what they think, just like you and I seem to be doing here. The quote you provided was given by a user who gave no reference for what he said, nor did he provide any qualifications for himself beyond high school. And for what it's worth, his post only received one upvote. Here is a quote from the highest rated answer to that question: "The 'traditional' family tree for Semitic languages places Arabic in the South Semitic group, with Ethiopian languages such as Amharic, ,and South Arabian languages. Aramaic in this classification is grouped with Hebrew (both ancient and Modern) in a branch of Semitic named 'Canaanite', which also includes Phoenician. On this model, *Arabic is geographically and structurally separated from Aramaic.* " You can read the rest of Calum Edwards' comment for further elucidation, and seems to match the current scholarship. He seems to have studied Arabic to a high level and studied at The School of Oriental and African Studies, at the SOAS University of London. He seems far more reliable of a source than the quote you presented, with respective to both individuals.
@risan3022
@risan3022 6 жыл бұрын
This one is not reliable either? www.britannica.com/topic/Aramaic-alphabet#ref1219046 "The Aramaic alphabet consists of 22 letters, all indicating consonants (though some can also represent vowels), and it is written from right to left. It is ancestral to Square Hebrew and the modern Hebrew alphabet, the Nabataean and modern Arabic scripts, the Palmyrenian alphabet, and the Syriac, as well as hundreds of other writing systems used at some time in Asia east of Syria."
@Far7anR
@Far7anR 6 жыл бұрын
Britannica is more reliable, but what you posted is actually not relevant to the matter at hand. Your Britannica article is talking about the development of written script, NOT the development of the actual spoken language and its characteristics. This are two very different things. Indeed, it is commonly believed that the current Arabic script has been influenced in part by Aramaic, but this does not in any way imply that the Arabic language has been derived from Aramaic. To give you an example: La ilaha illallah. That is Arabic for "there is no deity except Allah" but written in Roman script. If the Arab world adopted this script, would that imply that the Arabic language itself has been influenced by Latin? No. Likewise, the script that a language uses in written form does not really imply much on linguistic relationships and developments. Look up Britannica's pages for the actual languages. For a start, here is a graph from Britannica clearly showing that Arabic and Aramaic our cousins, as opposed to one being derived from another: cdn.britannica.com/668x448/50/117850-004-D5B94B61.jpg
@risan3022
@risan3022 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on some point about the written language being independent of spoken language during the development of a language. For example the Javanese language (which is one the 200 languages in Indonesia) belongs to Austronesian language family but the Javanese script is a descendent of Brahmic script (Indon-Aryan language family) from South India. Even though Callum Edwards says , we can't deny that during human civilization, each culture in the world has influenced each other in different amount depending on how much contact occur between the people of different cultures through trading, immigration, conquest etc. Each culture has received more or less influence from other culture(s). For example, the Javanese language in Indonesia belongs to Malayo-Polynesian which is one of the two branches of Austronesian language. Although it is still being debated where the Austronesian language family originated but it is largely believed that the Proto-Austronesian may have began in Taiwan. People might react "What? Taiwanese speak Chinese right? " But let's examine two of the Formosan languages (the languages of the indigenous people of Taiwan). The Amis and Puyuma say TOLLO and TELU respectively to say number three. And number three in Javanese is also TELU. Number 4, SPAT (Amis) PAT (Puyuma) and PAPAT (Javanese). Number 5 LIMA (Amis and Puyuma), LIMO (javanese). And if you see geographically, Indonesia and Taiwan is separated by a vast South China Sea which is part of Pacific Ocean. How could they have common words if they're separated by such a huge gap geographically? The same thing applies to the Javanese script which has received huge influence from sanskrit that came from a completely different direction geographically. Then how could the Javanese share common words with the language of indigenous people of Taiwan but share common script with script used in South India? Of course through contact throughout centuries, trading, migration, etc. The girl mentioned that Aramaic was the lingua franca during the Neo-Assyrian empire which encompased some of the Arab region. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Map_of_Assyria.png Also Aramaic is older than Hebrew and Arab. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Semitic_languages_-_Chronology.png Plus the fact that both Aramaic and Arabic belong to the same group, it is quite understandable if they're both related and it is highly possible that Aramaic has some influence on Arabic.
@herooja
@herooja 2 жыл бұрын
Can you point us to any respected semitic language expert that agrees with?
@Mozee854
@Mozee854 3 жыл бұрын
It's inconsequential whether one influenced the other. Muslims who understand their religion have no issues with Allah being referred to in its Hebrew, Aramaic or Syriac forms as we know that was the language of the prophets that had preceeded Muhammad. Moses, Jesus didn't speak Arabic as they were not Arabs.
@keytube1012
@keytube1012 4 жыл бұрын
Might I just add that Maronite Catholics still use syriac in their liturgy
@Sarawni
@Sarawni 3 жыл бұрын
And the assyrians use syriac/Aramaic in their liturgy
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 3 жыл бұрын
Even the Jews use it in parts of the Passover. The Talmud was written in Aramaic as well.
@netanelzion
@netanelzion 6 жыл бұрын
points that you left out : kurdish ,northern irani and azeri jews (known in israel as nash didan or kurdish jews ) also spoke neo syriac till they moved to israel.and the ancinet judean-aramic version is very common in jewish holly scriptures . i am half kurdish jew(from iran-azeribeijan) half yemenite jew ,and both my families preserved aramic in its version.creation of literature in ancient judean-aramic continued to the medieval time,like the song "ya ribon olam" (יה ריבון עולם) from muslim spain
@Sarawni
@Sarawni 3 жыл бұрын
They spoke syriac because they were among assyrians
@ahmadkadan6314
@ahmadkadan6314 5 жыл бұрын
Aramaic and Arabic have shared roots but none came from the other.
@JohnVander70
@JohnVander70 2 жыл бұрын
The work that the Inarah group/school has done on the (what they believe are) roots and formation of the Koran is pretty amazing, if they are correct about Syro-Aramaic being the true first language of the Koran it would create a seismic event in world religion.
@irwincrook567
@irwincrook567 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been more helpful and influential of she threw little respect for Muslims rather than bunch them all in the category of "Ignorant" to Aramaic. Many Muslims are aware of Aramaic and that it was a sister language (not origin language) to Arabic, spoken in Northern Arabia and influenced the writing system of Arabic. But the presenter being a Native Aramaic speaker had a lot of bias towards Aramaic and hinted a lot of Hate for Muslims and Arabic speaking people. Which is hypocritical after she blames the same to Muslims and Arab speakers. Lol
@g2D1
@g2D1 3 жыл бұрын
how can a person learn spoken aramaic. There's some guides on how to read aramaic, but none that I can find for learning to speak aramaic.
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 3 жыл бұрын
I encourage serious studies about such topics without any biases, but I have noticed that you brought some words that are cognate between the two languages which means that both languages have inherited it from a more ancient "parent" language. For example, the word Allah is driven from the root "El" which means god in almost all Semitic languages and not just Aramaic. Having said that the ending "ah" in Allah is a bit weird in Arabic. We need more studies to figure it out.
@alisooltan9765
@alisooltan9765 2 жыл бұрын
Arabic (classical) is the language of the Quran not Aramaic and there is no evidence to prove this only speculation and conjecture
@ajsuflena156
@ajsuflena156 6 жыл бұрын
why most of you guys are misunderstanding and don't know is that the tribes that spoke arabic in the arabian peninsula had migrated from northern areas of the middle east thus its place in north semitic language group
@catastrophicdon
@catastrophicdon 6 жыл бұрын
I don't known wheather you know or not. Syrian language is used also by the syrian christians in kerala in india. Now it is an inevitable part in their prayers. They were called so, not because they came from syria but they were using syrian litrugy in their prayers please click the link for more detail, s en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Thomas_Christians
@data_analyst7944
@data_analyst7944 3 жыл бұрын
Bro are there any syrain Christians in Tamil Nadu please answer
@Al-ke9tk
@Al-ke9tk 3 жыл бұрын
@@data_analyst7944 There are some. Check our the Syro Malabar churches or Malankara Churches in Tamil Nadu.
@youngwanderer5187
@youngwanderer5187 4 жыл бұрын
Muslim spoke and still speak Aramaic in a village in syria
@zangief8098
@zangief8098 4 жыл бұрын
Qamishli?
@youngwanderer5187
@youngwanderer5187 4 жыл бұрын
@@zangief8098 maaloula
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 3 жыл бұрын
@@zangief8098 the Aramaic people in qamishli are Christians not Muslims
@zangief8098
@zangief8098 3 жыл бұрын
@@MindSeeker2341 yes i know, my family is from Qamishli
@HassanRadwan133
@HassanRadwan133 6 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@kgeorge1967
@kgeorge1967 2 жыл бұрын
Great series. TY for doing it. Can you recommend any books that demonstrate the Aramaic roots if Qur'anic Arabic? I have "The Syrio-Aramaic Reading of the Qur'an" by Luxenberg. Are the others? TY.
@mudhuthanudimmudkahagadulh4657
@mudhuthanudimmudkahagadulh4657 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong fact: that the aramaic word for God is Elah. There were no E vowels in aramic, so the word was actually Alah. The alaf letter is the same sound as the alif in ashuric language.
@colinubeh1180
@colinubeh1180 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point of view. Does Aramaic/Syriac spoken today are the same as the ones spoken during Jesus time? There are clues in the Bible that they have accents/dialects when one of the servant said to Simon Peter you speak like a Galilean.
@issameg1
@issameg1 6 жыл бұрын
This is so untrue, the word “Quran- قرآن” is derived from the Arabic roots “Qara’a -"قرأ” means “Recite or Read - قرأ أو تلى” as well as “Qarana - قرن” means “Gather” while the Aramaic word “Qiriana- قريانا ” appeared for the first time in history in Aramaic language in the glossary edited by the 10th century Aramaic linguistic , translator and physician “Ishö bar'Ali - عيسى بن علي” who served in the Abbasid Caliphate Court 250 years after beginning of Islam, means this particular translator quoted the word “Quran”, the name of the holy Muslim book, and adapted to his own native language! What these people are trying to do is trying to use the similarity between the sister Semitic languages, Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic to claim that the Arabic (and accordingly the Holly Quran) lacks the originality and thus legacy, here is the surprise, ask an expert in Semitic languages what to do when you do not know the meaning of any word, term or grammar in Aramaic or Hebrew, the answer will directly (consult the Mother of the Semitic languages “ARABIC”)
@muchi1465
@muchi1465 4 жыл бұрын
You still go by what tradition tells you to be true so you will never really learn anything of historical value. Where does the word "islam" come from?
@muchi1465
@muchi1465 4 жыл бұрын
You folks have been abrahamised by the jews and you don't even realise it.
@AliHassanSalafi
@AliHassanSalafi 2 жыл бұрын
@@muchi1465 From the word Salam سلام means peace or aslama اسلمه
@muchi1465
@muchi1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliHassanSalafi , what does ASLANA mean?
@AliHassanSalafi
@AliHassanSalafi 2 жыл бұрын
@@muchi1465 Aslama means Submission to God
@YAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
@YAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 5 жыл бұрын
Shalom aleichem
@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز
@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز 5 жыл бұрын
Alaykum salam
@kh4lilaz281
@kh4lilaz281 3 жыл бұрын
@@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز شفت التخبيص تاعهم😂
@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز
@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز 3 жыл бұрын
@@kh4lilaz281 ولاد .... 😁😁
@kh4lilaz281
@kh4lilaz281 3 жыл бұрын
@@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز عنجد لف ودوران الفيدو هاظ
@violetflowers4043
@violetflowers4043 4 жыл бұрын
I literally have no idea what this video is about. Informing people about Aramaic or attacking the Quran. Firstly, the Quran is not burrowed from Syriamaic or Aramaic. The examples you gave like QURAN and QIRANNA don’t demonstrate how the Quran is burrowed from Syriac and Aramaic. These words are different in pronunciation and also, have different meanings. This is also the same with ALLAH ELAHA. ALLAH doesn’t just mean God, it actually means, “The God.” Yes, in Arabic and Aramaic they are some exact words however, they have completely different meanings. If the Quran was burrowed from Syriac and Aramaic texts then there would be an overlap. Don’t tell me that the Aramaic Language influenced Classical Arabic when none, in Mecca knew of Syriac and Aramaic. Yes, of course there’s going to be some similarities because, these are SEMETIC LANGUAGES. If some did know language, then it would be forgotten and, that’s exactly written in the Hadith. Also, do you know that we’re not certain that Jesus spoke Aramaic. It’s actually more likely he spoke Hebrew. You’re telling me a person who can’t read travel back in time, steals words from Syriac or Aramaic, go back to his time and, put those words in the Quran. During the prophets time, practicality none spoke or read Aramaic and definitely, not the Quraysh who loved their pure Classical Arabic. Don’t come and tell me about things when you have no knowledge. The Quran who is in Arabic compared to the stupid Bible in stupid Aramaic which literally says BEGOTTEN. What’s the better linguistic book. You already know the answer.
@cijoykjose
@cijoykjose 3 жыл бұрын
Bshim aawa o'wra o'rooha dukudsha kad rahem aleyn rahem almeen amen, Shlama alekchim.
@cijoykjose
@cijoykjose 3 жыл бұрын
@@മിഷൻ2047മൂഞ്ചി hmmm .
@risan3022
@risan3022 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Very concise. Hope to know more about this.
@preapple
@preapple 5 жыл бұрын
Aramaic literature and poetry was copied into Islam by the Ummayads 690’s onwards and later by Abbasids
@odaenathus7825
@odaenathus7825 3 жыл бұрын
Prove it.
@lol39372
@lol39372 3 жыл бұрын
The dumbest video I have ever watched, so what if the Arabic's root is Syriac or Aramaic languages? Now telling us to interpret the Holy Qur'aan using Aramaic is like saying to interpret an Italian text using Latin, that just doesn't make sense.
@saltymangoparty
@saltymangoparty 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Keep making videos! You are awesome
@Majeed.
@Majeed. 6 жыл бұрын
Thanx for publishing
@Ali-dd5iq
@Ali-dd5iq 3 жыл бұрын
How did you come to the conclusion that Aramaic language was the source not the branch , knowing two words that sounds the same like Quran and Quriana is not enough evidence for your claim . the superiousrity of the arabic language is so obvious you can not compare it to a language spoken by 80k people. Aramaic sounds like just a broken dialect of Arabic language.
@fredynono4015
@fredynono4015 4 жыл бұрын
Debat with Christian. prince .....Why Allah has 3 doughter ( Alyza, Alat, Manat) Mohamad worship....!!! Their father is Akbar
@Meliodasthesinofwrath
@Meliodasthesinofwrath 4 жыл бұрын
Christian prince is dirty debate he never play fair
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 3 жыл бұрын
Consider our modern English language very young language,yet spoken by million's, thats unique in any languages.
@kolitmas624
@kolitmas624 2 жыл бұрын
English is not a new language. It is a mixture of languages: 50% Latin or French, 20% Germanic languages, 5 Ancient Greek, 5% Norwegian, 2% and Danish, 1% Spanish and Portuguese, ... 1% old Celtic languages.
@henripentant1120
@henripentant1120 2 жыл бұрын
You also have to consider that there was something of a set of determined decisions that way. There was a process of grafting on of Latin to the English core grammar and vocabulary in order to make it a serviceable lingua franca, as well as a legal and ecclesiastical language.
@jenni_noura9170
@jenni_noura9170 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I understand that arameic is the oldest of most semetic languages. Arabic language has been affected by it and developed into more complex language. Though Islam is not just about Arabic language. There are also other influencal Muslim languages like Turkish and Persian. Without the Persians we wouldn't have hindi or Urdu in India and Pakistan. Turkish language is spread to Russia and China. Turks with ottoman empire spread Islam to Europe to Kosovo and Bosnia. But all these languages are also spoken by Muslims but often not recognized. And it's wrong that Christians who speak Arabic should not be allowed to say Allah when it means God for them to. Have blessed day.
@Geva555
@Geva555 2 жыл бұрын
did you know Jews spoke it too? it's part of our prayers too sadly today only the old people speak it and its about to die
@Erdemahmut
@Erdemahmut 6 жыл бұрын
Pir xweş. Heval ê xweşik. Destê te sağ be.
@dumplingcendawan9292
@dumplingcendawan9292 3 жыл бұрын
From what I heard aramaic language is spoken by prophet Ibrahim A.S and maybe god make him understand other language because there is prophet Ishak A.S who speak hebrew and prophet Ismail A.S that speak arabic. It is fascinating to know how much knowledge god give to prophet Ibrahim A.S because he also goes to egypt who people speak Qibti language at that time maybe.
@MarouaneChriss
@MarouaneChriss 6 жыл бұрын
The schema shown at 0:53 contradicts your theory and shows clearly that Arabic is NOT a descendant of Aramic though they have a common ancestor which is the NorthWest Semitic.
@aharonfernandez6359
@aharonfernandez6359 6 жыл бұрын
The book used for preparing a torah reading is called a (Tiqqun) Qor2im. That is also same root
@thiagozequim
@thiagozequim Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing the knowledge
@taymtaymtaym6311
@taymtaymtaym6311 5 жыл бұрын
U are wrong.Ismael spoke Arabic in Arabian desert.The ancient Aramic is completely vanished while the clasdic Arabic language is still alive .Allah is the God's name in Arabic. While in Aramic God is pronounced Allaha.Jesus in islam is called Iessa and it us simmilar to Aramic "iesso".
@aze90
@aze90 6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean well and much og what you say is true, but unfortunatly i feel its biased/angry and i personally dont think that one should present linguistics science in a biased way. Arabic and especially the dialects of iraq and the levant are heavily influenced by east/west aramaic but some things are proto semitic roots they have in common and others mere loan words. For example the word “ilh” is semitic for “a god” thus Elohim, Allaha, Allah all come from that word not “stealing it from eachother”. And thats true quran is known to be syriac word thus a loanword. Actually some even say that the quran was originally a syriac book from yemen but that remains a hypothesis. But again science has manners folks dont get too biased :)
@daviddunaway3319
@daviddunaway3319 3 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, I disagree that the presentation comes across as angry. Biased?, well, it is the young lady 's language and culture she so fervently expounds on. I welcome that. I learned something!
@preapple
@preapple 3 жыл бұрын
Allah is a Nabatean diety.
@cijoykjose
@cijoykjose 3 жыл бұрын
@@preapple allah is one of the 360 Qureshi gods and goddesses.
@cijoykjose
@cijoykjose 3 жыл бұрын
@@daviddunaway3319 the response of general islamist is this.. 😂
@lets_wrapitup
@lets_wrapitup 3 жыл бұрын
@@cijoykjose huh
@dipasarker7849
@dipasarker7849 6 жыл бұрын
we want videos regular from you .
@y2kmedia118
@y2kmedia118 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Quran is the eternal word of God doesn't relate to the state of the Arabic language and it certainly doesn't make Arabic eternal or anything of that sort. God simply communicated his word in Arabic translated from something more abstract to the closest image that man can comprehend. God also describes how he "brought down" the Quran in Arabic as if to indicate that its Arabic identity is tied to its decent rather than its actual essence; that becomes more clear when he follows that statement with "so you comprehend " as if to admit reduction and say that the purpose of such reduction from the abstract is for humans to comprehend.
@RobertHarp
@RobertHarp 5 жыл бұрын
i'm indonesian.. anyone knows where i can learn aramaic language in indonesia?
@RobertHarp
@RobertHarp 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@kh4lilaz281
@kh4lilaz281 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertHarp learn Arabic it's better
@anvara.1409
@anvara.1409 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. Do we know history important Muslims from arameins?
@hayyanmintgreen8561
@hayyanmintgreen8561 5 жыл бұрын
We believe that Qur’an is the word of God but we do not believe that Arabic is also His language. Languages are just meant for human beings and God is beyond that. And besides, We believe that God spoked to His early prophets in their respective languages like Hebrew & Aramaic. Off-course saying this does not eliminates the fact that some muslims are claiming some divine status for Arabic but this is not supported by Qur’an or the Prophetic Traditions(sunnah). Arabic is just the last Language that Allah uses to communicate with Mankind and nothing else. Surely Allah can use any language He wants and He choose Arabic for Qur’an just like He chooses Hebrew & Aramaic before for the earlier revelations.
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 5 жыл бұрын
Arabic is nothing more than a standardized version of an Air Mag dialect that was spoken up till and not standardized in Arabic until about 400 years ago. As a matter of fact, the Assyrian or even Syriac Aramaic is thought to be the old Arabic, which it is not. The entire region of the Middle East pretty much spoke very dialects of Aramaic for well over 2000 years.
@wb1847
@wb1847 4 жыл бұрын
So, there are flaws in your idea of aramaic being the older language
@juliansthoughts5641
@juliansthoughts5641 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think she was claiming that aramaic was older just that aramaic affected the arabic that ended up being spoken in that region.
@Emsyaz
@Emsyaz 6 жыл бұрын
You pronounced Qur'an wrongly. Theres no ع ('ayin) in the word Qur'an.
@mlks4265
@mlks4265 5 жыл бұрын
@Wahyu Suryaningpraja enough copy and paste 😒
@mlks4265
@mlks4265 5 жыл бұрын
@Wahyu Suryaningpraja hmmm , I guess 🤔
@shadowfox6438
@shadowfox6438 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that. I immediately was like oh boy this might not be a good video if she can't even pronounce...
@albusai
@albusai 5 жыл бұрын
newbieshelper is a small incomplete book full of violence and no fulfilled prophecies, so it doesn’t even matter
@mlks4265
@mlks4265 5 жыл бұрын
@@shadowfox6438 if she used to pronounced it like that then it isn't a mistake , ok
@Fman0909
@Fman0909 Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of condescension and knit picking in the video. I’m not sure if this intentional or out of ignorance.
@donny-crypto7615
@donny-crypto7615 2 жыл бұрын
nice video thank you
@SrMarou69
@SrMarou69 2 жыл бұрын
bro, u can't pronounce qur'an right and trying to explain ENTIRE religion!
@hussas7
@hussas7 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. What are you going on about? The Syriac/Aramaic/Hebrew/Arabic relationship has been known for centuries. All languages influence each other. Even early Arab grammarians knew this. In fact Hebrew grammar as a science was developed after the work of the earliest Arab grammarians like Khalil and Sibawayh. Aramaic grammar probably didn't develop until later. Even early Syriac grammar texts were heavily influenced by Greek ones. These are not things I'm making up, they are well known basic facts you will learn in a linguistical history class on ancient Middle Eastern languages. Syriac and Aramaic being the linguistic progenitors of Arabic has no bearing on the value of the Qur'an as being uncreated or eternal, as according to mainstream Islamic theology, the written and spoken words of the Qur'an are created, even if the Qur'an in its essence and meaning is uncreated and eternal. The whole point of saying the Qur'an is uncreated and eternal is because it is the speech of the Creator, who is himself uncreated. The language is largely irrelevant in theology, it becomes more relevant in the civilizational/cultural/legal aspects of Islam. Allah simply conveyed His words via Gabriel in a language that the target audience (Arabs!) would understand. Arabic on the other hand, is not an 'uncreated' language in the slightest. It has nothing to do with the discussion. And this was understood in the discussions of the earliest Arab grammarians. Please learn before speaking. You can criticize Islam if you want but don't do it in an ignorant way. You debase yourself before others. I recommend this book for a history of Arabic linguistics: www.amazon.ca/Foundations-Arabic-Linguistics-S%C4%ABbawayhi-Grammatical/dp/9004223592/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528062679&sr=8-1&keywords=foundations+of+arabic+linguistics And you can find any basic theological text from traditional Islamic sources that will explain the Islamic belief of an 'uncreated' Qur'an quite clearly.
@abc_cba
@abc_cba 6 жыл бұрын
Islamic apologist ...Butthurt !
@3poli
@3poli 6 жыл бұрын
how is it the an eternal god speaks a language that evolved over time as you claim .. did he evolve it or his creation did; and he adopted it later..
@abc_cba
@abc_cba 6 жыл бұрын
@@3poli All of the Arab, Hebrew and Aramaic versions of God are myths. There is no God. Islam is way too stupid than Judaism for sure
@3poli
@3poli 6 жыл бұрын
@@abc_cba indeed, I live in a muslim country and my family is muslim , I gave never accepted islam even in my early years it seem so obviously stupid
@abc_cba
@abc_cba 6 жыл бұрын
@@3poli You're my brother then ! Religions have devastated the world. Islam is no less harmful than Hinduism , Christianity and Judaism. I have no issues with reformist people but radical people irritate the fuck out of me.
@roshlew6994
@roshlew6994 3 жыл бұрын
The name for Jesus in Quran is Iesa which is derived from syro-aramaic name for Jesus which is Isho..
@hairul87
@hairul87 3 жыл бұрын
This is sooo interesting!! I was really disappointed that it finished just when it got to the climax and while I'm enjoying your presentation!
@abs6875
@abs6875 3 жыл бұрын
Allah is actually a quereshi god. Ilahi is the actual world for God in arabic. Some muslim ruler in between forced every one to use the word Allah for God. That is how arab christians were also forced to use it even in Bible. Christian Prince explains it. All these arab christians must be educated about it , and the must use the term elahi in general, and Yahweh as proper nouun.
@AliHassanSalafi
@AliHassanSalafi 2 жыл бұрын
Allah = Al-Illah = AL (the) Illah (God) = Allah mean the God If you say that allah is quereshi god so why muslims don't say that ?
@abs6875
@abs6875 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliHassanSalafi Bible uses Yahweh, Yeshua, Holy Spirit. Why they can't use the same. As per my knowledge they are using "allah" as the name of God.
@AliHassanSalafi
@AliHassanSalafi 2 жыл бұрын
@@abs6875 You can see in Russian they use Bog as The God and in Spanish they use Dios as the God and in French they use Dieu But in Hebrew it's Eloh or Elohim And in Aramaic the Language of Jesus they use Alaha or Elah and yep Arabic it's Allah or Illah and also muslims use the name "illah" in their name like Abdulillah "Abd al-Ilah " and Yahweh and Yeshua these names are in the old hebrew not the new one
@emeiruseff
@emeiruseff 3 жыл бұрын
In Arabic says "There is no God but Allah." It doesn't seems correctly if its "There is no God but God" Thank You for the channel.
@cijoykjose
@cijoykjose 3 жыл бұрын
Because Allah is not the one God. Its one of the Qureshi gods and goddesses.. 😁
@emeiruseff
@emeiruseff 3 жыл бұрын
@@cijoykjose How many God in creating a complete genius human?
@rajaeelastname4878
@rajaeelastname4878 3 жыл бұрын
I acknowledge that Arabic came from Aramaic. Unfortunately not many Arabs do
@SomeMan001
@SomeMan001 4 жыл бұрын
Quraan (readable) is like jaw3aan, Sha3baan, Ramadaan, Ta3baan, Mal'aan etc. It is Arabic and not because there is a similar root in another Semitic language it necessarily borrowed. The roots are very similar in most Semitic languages. Quraan is not borrowed sweetheart. Pathetic.
@yussef961
@yussef961 6 жыл бұрын
very ingesting ma3e l saleme
@robleyusuf2566
@robleyusuf2566 Ай бұрын
The name of Muslim book is not Qur'an but Furqan, although it is called Qur'an.
@mesafbrejawi1749
@mesafbrejawi1749 6 жыл бұрын
Who said that muslims ban the use of "Allah" for Christians or consider it an insult to god?! 😅😅😅 please don't tell lies to people... There is no such thing... Allah is the god of the whole universe, not the god of muslims only... 😊
@yet.4587
@yet.4587 6 жыл бұрын
I agree but there are still some muslims who say that
@kadnan6111
@kadnan6111 5 жыл бұрын
Mesaf Brejawi acc to u not 5 billion people 😅😅😅😅
@ullasseguro160
@ullasseguro160 3 жыл бұрын
But Allah is father of 3 daughters
@mesafbrejawi1749
@mesafbrejawi1749 3 жыл бұрын
@@ullasseguro160 this is not in Islam. In Quran it is mentioned that Allah has no offspring whatsoever.
@ullasseguro160
@ullasseguro160 3 жыл бұрын
@@mesafbrejawi1749 But Latha, Ussa and Manatha are daughters of Allah
@nathanielmartins5930
@nathanielmartins5930 Жыл бұрын
Allaha is a loan word in Aramaen. It was adopted into the Aramaen bible when the clergy found it most adequate to describe a Monotheistic God. Which is why in Arabic it has the direct second person form Allahuma, but such a form is not presented in any Aramaen texts. This trait is also found in the Hebrew Eloh when it becomes Elohim. So the word is native for both Hebrew and Arabic, but is Foreign for Aramaen.
@mikers3580
@mikers3580 4 жыл бұрын
LONG LIVE ASSYRIAAAAAAA
@zangief8098
@zangief8098 4 жыл бұрын
LONG LIVE SYRIAC
@aramean6502
@aramean6502 3 жыл бұрын
Nekno ashur fuck Assyria
@thevisitor7436
@thevisitor7436 5 жыл бұрын
انت غلطانة يا آنسة! نحن مليونين كلداني عراقي ونتكلم لغتنا الارامية السريانية، وكذلك اكثر من مليونين اشوري لهذا اليوم نكتب ونقرأ ونتكلم بالسريانية الشرقية الكلدانية والاشورية. ولسنا ثمانين الف.!
@mlks4265
@mlks4265 5 жыл бұрын
أين مليونين 😐
@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز
@أحمَدْ-ب4ص6ز 5 жыл бұрын
@@mlks4265 هاد مهايط
@walterfreeman9505
@walterfreeman9505 4 жыл бұрын
Salsalah, word used in Arabic Persian and Urdu/hindi
@angiemariam1397
@angiemariam1397 6 жыл бұрын
Are you assyrian
@letarikabebe
@letarikabebe 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand haw but there is similarity between Aramic and Amharic. Even there are a lot of similar words
@Hebiscus998
@Hebiscus998 4 жыл бұрын
Aramaic and Amharic are semitic languages. Same thing with how Spanish and Italian share similar words because they are Romance languages descended from the dead Latin language.
@dbatmansk
@dbatmansk 6 жыл бұрын
what does the name of your channel mean? Salsalah? And why do you have it in Arabic text? There is no word in arabic for صلصلة, rather its سلسلة. Its pretty embarrassing when you get the name of your channel wrong and are trying to speak about the Arabic language.
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 жыл бұрын
dbatmansk Bullshit. Salsalah is exist in Arabic. It morph into other language like Malay, to meaning as "Salasilah". It exist bro.
@Emsyaz
@Emsyaz 6 жыл бұрын
@@nickjohn2051 look up on arabic dictionary. The proper word and spelling is سلسلة not صلصلة
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 жыл бұрын
@@Emsyaz Well semantics. Language can changed. Thats include Arab. That is called "meme".
@safer_robert
@safer_robert 6 жыл бұрын
please put some lesons and teach us some aramaic language! i would like to speak a little bit
@SamiP-ik7vj
@SamiP-ik7vj 6 жыл бұрын
Old: www.learnassyrian.com/assyrianlibrary/books-language.html Modern: books.google.de/books?id=uobw_kBXx74C&printsec=frontcover
@georgeclooney5836
@georgeclooney5836 5 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Aramaic_languages
@ozam35
@ozam35 Жыл бұрын
Can i speak with you
@eho6380
@eho6380 4 жыл бұрын
The information is actually false (probably based on oral tradition or your hypotheses(s)). Arabic and Aramaic are Semitic languages both are from the branch of ''Northwest Semitic languages'', that's the reason why they sound so familiar. So no, Aramaic/Syriac didn't affect Arabic. According to your logic since German and English sound, the same, English affected German or German affected English. This is obviously false since they're Germanic languages and because of this share many similarities.
@gk2677
@gk2677 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my, i thought she spoke in modern hebrew! Sounded exactly like it
@cosmokaulitz22
@cosmokaulitz22 3 жыл бұрын
Right? İn the beginning 😂😂
@seana.3780
@seana.3780 6 жыл бұрын
It’s incorrect to say that Muslims don’t know what Aramaic is. Most probably don’t but if you’re from and Arabic speaking country, especially in the Levant/Iraq you know what Aramaic is. Their are also Small Muslim communities in Syria and Turkey that still speak Aramaic as a mother tongue. However, I appreciate this video for how informative it is
@drmg735
@drmg735 2 жыл бұрын
Those small Muslim populations are Christian converts to Islam due to Islam conquest of the regions. In Turkey, those people were Syriac christians who were converted to Islam by the sword in a genocide matter called the Sayfo in 1915. My great grandmother was converted to Islam at a young age until she was about 10 when she and her muslim family by adoption went to the church for bread, holy communion, because they were starving. My grandparents also suffered heavy Islamic persecution. So much for Islamic being a peace religion.
@adnaanraja1
@adnaanraja1 4 жыл бұрын
I like the concept but unfortunatley instead of being academic, it comes across as biased and uninformed. Classical Arabic grammarians and linguists never denied the link between the semitic languages. Instead, they recognised Hebrew, Syriac, and Aramaic as sacred languages. This was then reflected in the legal traditions of Islam which forbade Muslims from disrespecting these languages by taking their literature into places considered to be impure in Islam (like washrooms). Imam Suyuti (d. 911) has an entire book dedicated to lexis in the Quran which is not of Arabic origin; It presents absolutley no theological issue for Muslims what so ever because in the Islamic tradition, it is God's attribute of Speech (that is without language) which is eternal. As for the revealed form, it has a language (such as Aramaic for the gospels or Arabic Quran) and is non-eternal. There is tonnes of material about this by both Muslim and non Muslim scholars. Kalam Nafsi (Divine attribute of Speech - it is eternal, unlike human speech, unbound by language); Kalam Lafdhi (the revealed message of God, like the Quran, Pslams, Gospels, and Torah - it is non-eternal, finite, and bound by language).
@MrEdzeeray
@MrEdzeeray 3 жыл бұрын
Even your illustration shows that Arabic didn’t come from Aramaic lol
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