How did the U.S. Fail in Vietnam? | Animated History

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Allison, William Thomas. The Tet Offensive: A Brief History with Documents. Routledge, 2010.
Barbara, W. Tuchmann. "The March of Folly: From Troy to Vietnam." (1984).
Mann, Robert. A grand delusion: America's descent into Vietnam. No. 973. Basic Books, 2001.
McNamara, Robert S., and G. James. Blight, and Robert K. Brigham. Argument Without End: In Search of Answers to the Vietnam Tragedy (1999).
Prados, John. Vietnam: The history of an unwinnable war, 1945-1975. University Press of Kansas, 2009.
Sheehan, Neil. The Pentagon Papers: as published by the New York times. New York: Quadrangle Books, 1971.
Stanton, Shelby L. The Rise and Fall of an American Army: US Ground Forces in Vietnam, 1963-1973. Ballantine Books, 2007.
Tucker, Spencer C. Vietnam. Lexington. (1999).
Hanyok, Robert J. Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds, and the Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2-4 August 1964. Center for Cryptologic History, National Security Agency, 1998.
Pike, Douglas. "North Vietnam in the Year 1972." Asian Survey 13, no. 1 (1973).
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Defeat??? They left

[@hide2148]

Hey you know we did not lose or win as most know we just backed out

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[@MarionTIA]

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[@stewie1237]

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[@ryanthan3595]

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[@vinhnguyen2336]

U use google translate right, so how can you know Vietnamese. Sorry for my bad english, I'm Vietnamese

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It meana hey you can you step me

[@Orange_Kyro]

@@vinhnguyen2336 im Vietnamese and i dont use goggle

[@HarcusCGTV]

As someone who lives in Vietnam, you should also be aware that the French did not completely leave Vietnam when the Japanese came in. The French worked WITH the Japanese to manage and control the people. Yes thats right, while the Allies were fighting to FREE France in Europe, the French were colluding with the Japanese across SE Asia.

[@cowmeatius7151]

Holy hell I just looked this up, it took until 1945 for the Japanese to imprison the Vichy French administration. As a westerner, I always assumed Vichy France only existed from fear of the Germans, but apparently the Vichy were just as evil as their fascist friends

[@jackmemphis777]

damn thats an interesting fact. There is always so much important information that is hidden from the general public unless they know how to find it or stumble upon it like I just did.

[@HarcusCGTV]

@@jackmemphis777 I was completely amazed when I found out, but sadly not surprised. They simply thought it would never come to light.

[@jackmemphis777]

@@HarcusCGTV have you read "the Creature from Jekyll Island"? Incredible book I'm reading right now that goes into great detail about the federal reserve and how the world is really controlled through the central banking. I could go on but I would recommend reading it, since it will blow your mind. Some of it is stuff you might already know but it has all the references and details of the history of money up to our current time and how governments are controlled and why we have perpetual war, a volatile financial economy,etc and how our fiat currency system will fail as all fiat systems in history have always failed completely at some point

[@HarcusCGTV]

@@jackmemphis777 Fell down that rabbit hole about 15 years ago mate, fortunately came out the other end 10 years ago. Stay safe mate and stay well.

[@micoolkidfilms3270]

Then: How the us invasion of Vietnam failed. Now: How the us invasion of Afghanistan failed.

[@Halcon_Sierreno]

Hubris plain and simple.

[@bantumwt]

The US left in early 1973 after Linebacker II left the North a smoldering rubble, American POWs released, and a signed Paris Peace Accord. 2 years later the North invaded the South - in April 1975. No American combat troops insight.

[@mikasa279]

There done baby sitting afganistan!!!!!🤭

[@bantumwt]

@@mikasa279 Wanna bet. The way Biden left, the US will be back in force in a year maybe.

[@mikasa279]

@@bantumwt yes...I actually agree, this is exactly what my brother said😅 he dout US will left afgans like that....he said maybe a couple of years US will return to afganistan...I mean look what's happening!!!! To afgan people

[@greensleeves5710]

They just went for kills and didn't actually pay attention to the objective.

[@badconnection712]

they shouldve PTFO

[@bustincheeksherk5501]

lululululul

[@RoyalFusilier]

So basically they did the standard pub strategy in online shooters, and instead of playing the objective... yeah.

[@colinedwards4959]

The won each battle .. but lost the war..

[@renaicirculation4143]

Just like rising storm vietnam

[@josephvalvano829]

Having served two combat tours in Vietnam, and a retired Army Officer my take on it has always been......the wrong war, at the wrong time, for all the wrong reasons.

[@michaeljenkins3975]

Was you also high on heroine over there??

[@josephvalvano829]

Michael Jenkins ...it’s heroin, and never....

[@MomMom4Cubs]

Thank you for your service! My Dad was deployed to assist with the embassy evacuation. Did you find the factual errors in this video off-putting, as a Vietnam veteran?

[@MomMom4Cubs]

@Wilson Robertson Too bad the WW2 vets lost the war that truly mattered to them; the war to ban the spat upon children turned veterans from the VFW, and the Legion.

[@charleslamkin1407]

We were fighting the Cold War in Vietnam seen the Berlin Wall lately.

[@tellwilliam9732]

Americans always ask why Vietnamese always remind of the past. But they may don't care about these numbers: While Americans lost 59,000 soldiers in the Vietnam war Vietnam suffers much more than that: + Millions of people died + 138,000 mothers who forever lost their sons and husbands + 2,000,000 wounded soldiers + 300,000 people infected with Dioxin + 111,000 prisoners of war In the war with France: we lost 191,000 soldiers In the war with America: we lost more than 850,000 soldiers In the war with China (1979): we lost 105,000 soldiers How can we forget those who died for this country?

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@spinning_ice1487 I don't think being free from foreign influence was a "minor" reason If the US can free it self from colonial powers, why can't Vietnam?

[@pongangelo2048]

@@comradekenobi6908 bruh, US tricked Vietnamese into thinking that they're friends and will set them free from oppression. Too bad, their oppressor was France. France and America were like brothers. America choose to side the opppessors, not the oppressed. Just like what they did to us Filipinos during Spanish rule.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@pongangelo2048 yeah that's double standards lmao

[@nathanjones9860]

don’t care

[@huynguyen-fs3qu]

The Vietnamese may fall, but they will not lose their country. They were up against a force from half a world away. Americans, who always preach for justice, who possess advanced weapons, have not been able to defeat the will and patriotism of the backward farmers. And time has proved, it has been more than 50 years since the US military had to flee from Vietnam, the country of Vietnam has developed continuously, there has been no conflict between the two South and North. That's why they say the Vietnamese won. They used blood and tears in exchange for freedom.

[@el1300]

Vietnam has gone through so many wars and losses, just like many countries in Asia who suffered under colonial rule. What is actually different is they WON and gained independence through their own hands, and not merely given. Respect from the Philippines.

[@frankieseward8667]

And that was inspite of attempting to partition the two nations.

[@charleswest6372]

S Vietnam lost it.

[@Mcbignuts]

And now the shameless Vietnamese are offering their butts to western capitalism

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

1:52 "Some saw the Japanese as Asian liberators" Japan: "You thought the French were bad?"

[@strikeforce1500]

Vietnamese: "oh thank God, thank you for giving us freedom!" Japan (with John Cena voice): "Are you sure about that?!"

[@garrettallen7427]

@@strikeforce1500 Vietnamese:Hooray! We are saved! Japan: I prefer the term 'under new managment'.

[@antidentite1481]

my name is France, my name is Japan AND THIS IS JACKASS!

[@tdfern1]

I thought Vietnam were treated fairly better by Japan ?

[@seungheuncheon4119]

@@tdfern1 Nope There is a reason why ho chi mihn said "do those korean look happy under japanese rule?" They took so many rice away by the end of the war 200 million people were staving

[@randysmith2866]

Why didn’t we win? Through my own simple nineteen year old ground soldier’s eyes, I could see the Vietnamese were fighting for their country. All the time I was there, I felt like a hired gun. No matter how much you pay a mercenary, he’ll never be willing to die like a patriot!

[@topgeardel]

I was a Vietnam Draft resistor. It doesn't matter to me what you think of that. But, compared to so many of your fellow veterans, you define your Vietnam experience very well with dignity. I will remember your comment....very well said.

[@larrylinn8589]

A majority of the VC were willing to be victorious or die. The Americans just wanted to survive their 12 or 13 month tour of duty.

[@topgeardel]

@@larrylinn8589 That's true. I've had a lot of Vietnamese on these videos say the VC/NVA were really fighting for Vietnam...not necessarily Communism. There was a lot of history behind Vietnam before the US intervened. As far as your comment on the 1 year duty and out. So true. That would have been my agenda. Also, I've read that over 800 incidents of "fragging" were either documented or suspected throughout the entire war. Roughly 80 US officers were murdered by US servicemen.

[@N00.B0DY]

Thank you for your service👍

[@paulzammataro7185]

Thank You for serving, Sir.

[@HoangNguyen-ph8bj]

Some people say that "if the US had used atomic bombs, things would have been different" but they do not know that the total amount of damage caused by American bombs is more than 100 times more than the losses of the two atomic bombs that have been dropped on Japan.

[@leophan1607]

Chỉ cần 1 quả thả vào một nơi bất kỳ ở miền bắc thôi là ww3 nổ ra ngay lập tức luôn :)))) tôi vẫn đ hiểu là tới giờ vẫn có thằng nào ngu tới mức nghĩ đến việc mỹ có khả năng và sẽ thả một quả bomb nguyên tử vào Việt Nam nhờ :)))

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[@mukaddastaj5223]

Right! In fact, during the entire world war 2 there were 2.5 millions of bombs dropped on germany(not sure, ill check this) and during the Vietnam war the USA dropped more than 6.7million of bombs on Vietnam! Imagine, what a damage was caused

[@petersattler3454]

@@mukaddastaj5223 On non combatant villages in Laos and Cambodia.

[@dentce]

Cambodia: Hey what is- OH SH

[@luismarcialvergaradiaz5363]

*A couple decades later* : How did the U.S. Fail in Afghanistan? | Animated History

[@TheSkyheart5]

Honestly, the biggest question I have is why do we keep ending up having to defend corrupt regimes. At least in Afghanistan we didn't know we'd end up with one going in, but we should of known Diem was the wrong person to fight for in Vietnam.

[@pxh6129]

@@TheSkyheart5 Have you ever questioned that you were the bad guy?

[@pxh6129]

@andrion waser Moot point. ✡get away with everything.

[@wuebboltc]

Those who fail to learn from their history are doomed to repeat it.

[@minhnguyen-ol6dp]

I love how some salty people are still trying to compare kills. Guess Germany won WW2 right?

[@markant9534]

Yes and The Soviet Union came second.

[@JackLuong]

Most were civilians too

[@JT-de5jr]

Mark Ant didn’t Russia suffer the most casualties out of all the countries?

[@nerevarchthn6860]

JT _ he said killing

[@drunkblumpkin8310]

@@JT-de5jr r/whoooooooosh

[@earth107]

Every Country: Vietnam won the war America: IT WAS A TIE

[@TXkid124]

It was an unwinnable war and a useless one. Thats the sentiment of most Americans. The internet just likes to REEEEEE tho

[@Tikii_9]

Nah it wasnt 1,100,000+ Vietcong and NVA soldiers got slaughtered and only 50,000+ U S soldiers died www.militaryfactory.com/vietnam/casualties.aspwww.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

It was a tie, the official treaty left North and South Vietnam in the condition they started. What happened later was that North Vietnam started ANOTHER war and invaded the South and since we weren't there to defend them they quickly overran the country and captured Saigon

[@Tikii_9]

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Idc about who won im just proving that the U.S soldiers were the ones kicking ass not the Vietcong or N.V.A

[@venomradicle3029]

Let them come here to america, the war wouldnt last a week because america would destroy them

[@solid_rooster4587]

I don't get why people say americans don't use the metric system, I see them using 9mm in most of their schools

[@Kanyeeast294]

Us soldier: the trees speak Vietnamese run! NVA soldier: DUMA the sky’s are playing fortunate son again!

[@baonguyen5053]

Haha you are a legend

[@superiorshotgun4348]

Fortunate son would have made more sense

[@Kanyeeast294]

Thnx for 19 likes!

[@Kanyeeast294]

@@superiorshotgun4348 yeah fortunate son would be better

[@richardk.9900]

"DUMA"😂😂

[@boiguacci4373]

i was in vietnam and spoken to an old vietnamese uncle in Danang. He told me: there was never a Vietnam War, only American war.

[@HungNguyen-fy8hf]

I am a Vietnamese, I still call it "The Vietnam War" (a civil war with international intervention to be exact)

[@nhatnguyenminh9369]

@@HungNguyen-fy8hf you can't call "the American war" is a civil war since South Vietnam goverment is only a puppet build by America so they have excuse to jump in the war

[@HungNguyen-fy8hf]

​@@nhatnguyenminh9369 No, the excuse for the US to jump into the war was the fabricated incident the Gulf of Tonkin of which a US battleship reported to being attacked by 3 North Vietnamese submarines. It was just an excuse, the incident didn't happen.

[@avanishayyappan4022]

It’s actually American war

[@longdang1119]

It means a lot. It's not Vietnam Civil War. It's Vietnam vs America war.

[@VladTevez]

Because they didn't let John Rambo do his job

[@Kevin-gy2do]

LOL that's what the real Rambo said!

[@yj9032]

They should’ve sent chuck norris

[@Durahan82]

@@yj9032 they did but he got missing in action .

[@Ensaymadaah]

Hahahah

[@NormanMStewart]

@V. Athanasiou, You are everywhere, aren't you?

[@vigilantestylez]

Honestly, they didn't really want to win that war. It was an excuse to get lots of military funding for the kind of force we have today. The Abrams tank, Bunker busters, laser guided weapons, the M16, camouflage, night vision, thermal vision, stealth technology, etc. All were designed and built during the Vietnam war. Then in 1991 they had a defiant and rebellious Saddam Hussein in Iraq who invaded Kuwait and wanted to have his foot on the neck of the world by controlling the middle east oil. They took that war very seriously and destroyed his military in 100 hours. Make no mistake about it, if Vietnam was a must win war, the US would win that war and do it in a week or less.

[@toshiojohnston3732]

Typical American delusions.

[@prasanth2601]

It's time to make a video on how US failed in Afghanistan.

[@Canose]

Ask soldier : how did the US fail in Vietnam? Soldier : **flashbacks about the trees**

[@maituankiet4267]

True XD

[@inkblack6256]

Lavish00 We failed in our objective 100%.

[@Lavishfrr]

Ink Black our retarded president at the time made us go there when Vietnam didn’t want what we was giving them. But we didn’t lose the war military wise. We won ever military engagement

[@vietanhvu4146]

You won the battle but you lost the war Why you lost the war ? Because back in the time only 1/5 or even less peoples of the SVN believed in the Saigon goverment and the US army They believed in the VietCong because they are too afraid of the US army and its alied (korean, ....) The Saigon gov is just a puppet , the morale of the soldiers was too low, they didn't know what they are fighting for A friend of my grandfather work in the Saigon government and he was a Viet cong You can't win a war when the people don't believe in you, low morale Also, many of rice farmers join the Vietcong because of Korean and US massacre

[@inkblack6256]

Lavish00 You lost the war and the communists won.

[@dot6441]

well vietnamese had a lot of spawn tickets and they were good at camping in jungles

[@xxx6797]

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[@gialinh6138]

Thx

[@rudy1999]

They had deathmatch mode turned on

[@sovietsocialist1652]

yeah we gotta nerf guerilla tactics

[@NgNicholasSonHa]

and underground also

[@mohammedtareq302]

Who is here after US Fail In Afghanistan...??

[@alumi5417]

me

[@nguyentho9626]

When i read the My Lai massacre document,i was 14.I was so angry and furious.Im still have that feeling everytime somebody mention the My Lai words.That is not a civilized action from a civilized country.But we fought hard and im proud of what my ancestors did back then

[@ernsthaeckel1077]

My Lai massacre was a very sad thing, one can only feel sorry for the victims. But it should not be forgotten, that the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese People`s Army carried out more serious massacres. As in Hué, where they caused a massacre together, the estimated number of victims being up to 6,000, ten times as many as in the My Lai massacre. Ho Chi Minh killed a million people through mass executions and in re-education camps, there is no difference between him and Kim Il-sung.

[@wonkydonkeys4441]

@@ernsthaeckel1077 The majority of civilians killed at Hue were killed by American firepower. The most careful estimate of the numbers killed by the NLF, made at the time by free-lance journalist Len Ackland, puts the figure between three hundred and four hundred. Most of the victims were collaborators.

[@ernsthaeckel1077]

The injuries clearly showed that they were victims of mass shootings at close range. Many people were buried alive. That`s from Uwe Siemon-Netto, a German journalist, he was in Hue.

[@wonkydonkeys4441]

@@ernsthaeckel1077 The thousands of civilians who died in Hue, the photo-journalist Philip Jones Griffiths wrote, "were killed by the most hysterical use of American firepower ever seen." From "The Vietnam Wars," by Marilyn Young, page 219

[@ernsthaeckel1077]

And how can they now if they've never been to Hue? If the civilians had been killed by American firepower, how did they end up in the mass graves? There were no injuries on their bodies. And most of the bodies with gunshot wounds could only be killed by shots from close range. Women and children were murdered, were they collaborators? Four German citizens were also found among the victims: the three medical professors Horst-Günther Krainick, Alois Alteköster and Raimund Discher, who at the University of Huế, as participants in an educational aid program of the German federal government, set up the university's medical faculty since 1961, and Krainick's wife Elisabeth. The Viet Cong knew that they were not American, but they murdered them anyway.

[@jimsuniverse4954]

It was a pointless war. Rip to those killed for no reason.

[@kevcthulu4576]

I think more then 2 mio. Cilvilians died during the war

[@tiffanyhill-anding8891]

Thx to the USSR

[@salvatoremangiavillano6084]

Did.... you... watch... whole video.... there was a reason pal. To stop spreading of communism. :)

[@whosthisantichrist]

A few weeks ago, I had a substitute bus driver for my school who is a Vietnam veteran. The guy doesn’t have PTSD, which is rare, but he was drafted when he was 22. He told me that the whole war was stupid and had no reason to exist.

[@DiegoRamirez-nw5tv]

@@salvatoremangiavillano6084 But at the end the north won so... Anyways it was their war , a civil war. America just made the war longer and deadlier

[@jacques4703]

Vietnam faced so much in the past century. -France -Japan -France again - United States and S.Vietnam - People's Republic of China I salute you Vietnam, few are as hardcore as you.

[@Mr.LaughingDuck]

Don't forget the Mongolian invasions!

[@mustafamalik596]

and the Khmer Rouge

[@milokhanh313]

Thailand too , also mongolia empire

[@jaydonly2336]

Hai zũ Có văn hoá Mongolia attacked Vietnam in the last 100 years?

[@FriendlyYandere]

@@milokhanh313 Thailand? I supposed they took a minor role in the Vietnam War, but they never really went to war with each other didn't they? Unless you're talking about the one in 1841 When the outcome was basically a tie because they signed a white peace and Khmer got the short end of the stick, because they ended up being a vassal to both Thailand and Vietnam, kinda like parents fighting over custody.

[@63supercobrajet]

when over 80% of the world says: "yankee go home" and stay home, why don't they listen.?

[@khale7180]

Knowing what we know now the Vietnamese should have supported the Americans. However, right after French colonization, the Americans look like another invader and it didn't help that the US supported the French in Vietnam after WWII.

[@amronnog]

Vietnam was the most beautiful place I've ever been, hard to imagine that so many lives had been lost there and for nothing. Rip to all that lost their lives.

[@tarden132]

there's also still areas of vietnam that is still unexplored

[@GladiusTR]

Correction: AMERICANS lost their lives for nothing. Vietnamese civilians lost their lives for nothing. N.Vietnamese Soldiers and all who died supported them lost their lives to save Vietnam

[@nvasoldier6893]

@@GladiusTR vietnamese civillain lost their lives for vietnam, they got armed with guns

[@minoreror9961]

@@nvasoldier6893 that means they aren’t civilians?

[@nvasoldier6893]

@@minoreror9961 kinda

[@KingZercules]

The US lost for those 3 reasons : - They underestimated the capacity of the NVA to make coordinated attacks. They thought they farmers on bycicles. They also thought the french lost because they were a weak army. - The Jungle terrain was brutal. It stoped the US from deploying their full power. The jungle was a major reason why asymetric warfare was so succesful. - They underestimated the will to fight of the vietnamese people. The NVA and VietCong were ready to endure everything to liberate their home. The side that is ready to sacrifice the most will usually win.

[@mercurial3252]

And that is why american armed forces want to have military exercise in our country for learning on how to fight and survive in jungle and in tropical terrain.

[@adityaanggaisback937]

@Gaming and Education LOL still america lost to his rival

[@adityaanggaisback937]

@Gaming and Education LOL still america lost to a tiny country who aided by america rival

[@adityaanggaisback937]

@Gaming and Education LOL imagine this you always go to gym fight againts a kid that teached by your rival in gym for 2 days. You two fight in the street. But after some fight you decided to go home. Who is the winner? The kid who is still ready to continue the fight or you who go to home?

[@adityaanggaisback937]

@Gaming and Education LOL and what its just a support not a fucking full army of soviet or China. So america is lose a fight against someone who never have experience using the sword,meanwhile you re someone that a sword user for 20 fucking years. Just accept america lose its okay my country lose to a tiny country too in military fight.

[@solid_rooster4587]

Congratulations to every vietnamese that defended his country against US imperialist army, true warriors

[@UserName-om6ft]

🤓

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@UserName-om6ft Joe

[@solid_rooster4587]

@@UserName-om6ft smartest comment you could think of, how does it feel being the bad guys and actually losing? 😏👳

[@UserName-om6ft]

@@solid_rooster4587 the US is the good guys and they won, how does it feel knowing Vietnam lost the war?

[@solid_rooster4587]

@@UserName-om6ft US is the country with the most war crimes in history, and I'm pretty happy, after all vietnam showed who is the boss, expulsing the imperialist american forces and making them look like a joke in front of all the world, something that happened again in Afghanistan so I'm even happier :D

[@lubiclubic6990]

The only thing Vietnamese want is the independence of their country. They did not really care whether they follow Communism or Capitalism, all they want is the chance to govern their own country. I'm Vietnamese

[@DEVILSBELONGINHADES.]

"Do not fear the enemy, For they can only take your life. Fear the media far more for they will destroy your honor." 100% correct!!!

[@xynn.5998]

Wow..

[@daemonblackfyre6242]

Myth Fury yes

[@agusmohamad8572]

Proof that the media is worse than some random "very violent" video game

[@gseth671]

ТАСИЋ mongoloid

[@gseth671]

ТАСИЋ what are you going on about? All I did was state what you are

[@FirstNameLastName-qx8ii]

I do think it’s important to highlight that the US military was effective in Vietnam. However, the Vietnamese tactics were truly brilliant, and exploited the fact that the Americans really didn’t want a war with China because it could quickly go nuclear. In a nutshell, the US military was under direct order from the president not to invade North Vietnam. They essentially had to sit there and defend the south. The Vietnamese knew they couldn’t win in a head to head fight, so their tactics revolves around psychologically destroying the morale of both US troops and citizens alike. No matter how powerful a nations military is, they will never win a war without public support, and the Vietnamese were able to take that away from the US. Also, the trees speak Vietnamese meme is fucking hilarious

[@ComradeOgilvy1984]

The US leadership, political and military, was traumatized by how quickly the Korean War spun out of control into a big costly mess. That is where "Never get involved in a land war in Asia" comes from. When MacArthur plunged northwards, that triggered a massive Chinese intervention, that rolled back most of Mac's brilliant gains almost instantly. It was feared that such could happen if the US launched a massive invasion into northern Vietnam. It was feared that massive airstrikes that kill civilians (or nuclear strikes) could result in nuclear reprisals that would destroy ports for the US Navy on a wider scale. In hindsight, a massive intervention by China (or Russia) was probably not in the cards. But the whole point of the war from the US perspective was that international communism was working together knocking over the dominoes. The justification for fighting in Vietnam at all presumed the plausibility of China/Russia being willing to get directly involved -- we were there to defend SV from China/Russia, not just the peasants in the north.

[@ogc9649]

ComradeOgilvy1984 wow a smart person in the comments.

[@CedarHunt]

The US should have deployed radiological weapons. Create a few hundred radiation deadzones that the US troops would know about and the Vietcong wouldn't and they'd die out soon enough. Worst case, you have to leave and the country is a radioactive wasteland that is worthless to the commies.

[@duile393]

@@CedarHunt And if you win it's also a radioactive wasteland for you.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

@@CedarHunt But if you do that nobody wins and you destroyed a country full of innocents making you the bad guy.

[@jonathanlewis8018]

My grandfather fought in this war as a South Vietnamese conscript. He was captured in the Fall of Saigon and was held in an internment camp. He escaped with his family during the Vietnamese crisis of 1978 and arrived in Australia where my mum grew up

[@renegadeace1735]

Now do how did the United States fail in Afghanistan.

[@BiasN]

@Juan Eron usa got that fat L

[@guifdcanalli]

@Juan Eron suuure 20 years fighting the taliban, now they are in the doors of the capital: "they can handle it"

[@pucheta9464]

@Juan Eron Why would they? the taliban are their brothers

[@MrTigracho]

The Afghan Govertment was so fuckin' corrupt, and their military head the same. How the hell did they not see this coming is a mystery to me.

[@roberteischen4170]

Nah, we saw it coming. We just didn't want to be there anymore. We also left behind lots of weapons and Munitions behind hoping it would give then a fighting chance. But they just didn't care to fight so the Taliban got everything. Now they're having a bit of trouble with domestic terrorism themselves, from factions which think the Taliban, didn't go far enough.

[@lillyie]

Vietnam: US, seems like you lost, no hard feelings? United States: *I DIDN'T LOSE! I MERELY FAILED TO WIN!*

[@anonymousdave3404]

@Elite Fitness the us hasn't lost Afghanistan yet it's still ongoing

[@anonymousdave3404]

@Elite Fitness Afghanistan is still occupied and it's government replaced doesn't really seem like a lose

[@zachbocchino5501]

Why do I get the feeling you took that from Oversimplified 😂

[@kerondemmings1245]

@bulls on parade anything to try and put us down huh, you need better hobbies

[@kerondemmings1245]

@bulls on parade don't know if you think I care about your words in the slightest, and no they aren't facts. You can actually study it a little bit more if you want, it's how I know what your saying is false because I've already learned this stuff, from multiple sources. And you talking to the wrong person about being emotional, it's only funny to me when someone tries to defend something they say that I already know is wrong. Just stating facts whether you like it or not bruh, could not care a lick less.

[@TheMann_YT]

*FORTUNATE SON INTENSIFIES*

[@nikkity5491]

*YEA ME YEA ME* *I AINT NO SENETORS SON YEA*

[@nacht6747]

The Mann *Fortunate Son goes silent and load as you are fucking*

[@penis_theif]

Some folks are born made to wave the flag Ooh, they're red, white and blue And when the band plays "Hail to the chief" Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no Yeah! Some folks are born silver spoon in hand Lord, don't they help themselves, oh But when the taxman comes to the door Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no Some folks inherit star spangled eyes Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord And when you ask them, "How much should we give?" Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! yoh It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no

[@Tirkka]

Funny how the "senator's son" ended up serving a lot longer than Fogerty though.

[@rouymalic4463]

*Insert Irquois/Huey sound

[@PhongTran-dj1rb]

Famous line I heard from an American veteran screaming in his sleep. “THEY’RE IN THE TREES, THEY’RE IN DA TREES.”

[@danyanderson120]

not surprising if you know their history..Vietnamese people defeated the most powerful armies on earth. The mongols in 12 century, Chinese many times and the last time in 1979, Chinese PLA got their bloody nose when invading Vietnam, trying to save their ally-Polpot murders in Cambodia with 60.000 dead only during 3 weeks . Viets also humiliated French colonial troops and 5 millions powerful American troops with their allies: Australians, south Korean, Thailand... In 1978 Vietnamese troops liberated Cambodia from Polpot tyranny! Respect!

[@saucyboi8721]

US soldier: Gets drafted to Vietnam Vietnamese: WeLcOmE tO tHe RiCe fIeLdS MOTHAFUCKA

[@dot6441]

reading that in vietnamese accent make it so hilarious

[@kevingonzalez3673]

The objective was abandon by the US government. If you look at the amount of death delt to the country, it was a loss for the Vietnamese people. 100000 died. Even if you reduced it by 30 percent, that is still 700000 military deaths.

[@kevingonzalez3673]

@Spanish Moustache Your right. They paid in blood.

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

Most Americans were volunteers in Vietnam.

[@kevingonzalez3673]

@@Front-Toward-Enemy It beat staying at home.

[@rou8390]

What’s did the U.S lose Vietnam? Answer: Angry rice farmers started to tree camp and dig holes.

[@comradedima9791]

and they build trap

[@snufkin3990]

What is did the U.S lose the Vietnam war.

[@pauliemueller2890]

1.3 million deaths vietnamese vs 58k American deaths

[@muhammadswalih8923]

@@pauliemueller2890 America is the most powerful people in the world because they killed 400,000 japanese, 1.2 million koreans, 1.1 vietnamese, 3 million Iraqis, 1 million syrians and libyans. Millions in nicaragua and other third world latin american nations. Directly or indirectly. Santions on poor nations who refuse to bow down.

[@jimbobjimjim6500]

@@muhammadswalih8923 The Germans killed 30 million Soviets and thats only one of the groups they killed.

[@solid_rooster4587]

It's weird how the most powerful country on earth loses so many dumb wars, it seems they are not made for guerrilla warfare

[@UserName-om6ft]

except the US won hundreds of wars, won 833 battles in only 246 years 3rd most in human history, the US achieved more war victories in a short time than countries with ancient history dating back thousands of years BC and the US has never lost, your communist government in central/south America was overthrown by the US you dont like your new capitalist government 😂

[@7ElevenAlphaCentauri]

The guerrilla phase of the Vietnam war was 1966-1969. From 1970-75 the North launched a conventional war against the South with tanks and aircraft.

[@benjaminj.m8531]

To all those who said that by casualities the us won… Ussr lost more men than nazi germany but they still won the war

[@sadsworth4605]

Dude they are fat gaymers in thier shed

[@donaldj.trumpandiapproveth259]

The Soviets won battles, the vietcong did not, that is the difference

[@benjaminj.m8531]

@@donaldj.trumpandiapproveth259 winning more battles doesnt make you the winner

[@donaldj.trumpandiapproveth259]

@@benjaminj.m8531 I agree with you we lost the war but it was not because of our military, and to avoid more vietnamese civilian causalities I believe we were holding back

[@benjaminj.m8531]

@@donaldj.trumpandiapproveth259 but if you would have gone further into the war USSR and China would probably have joined North vietnam and then it would be game over

[@aidankleinhenz739]

I am the Lorax and I speak for the trees, The trees just said something in Vietnamese.

[@shade7648]

Bro something tells me that you are NOT a khb agent...WELCOME TO ANERICA!!!

[@skeves7555]

cây? tôi không phải là một cái cây

[@sirdickkickerthefirst9611]

Chris H Hello from Vietnam, and I’m glad I live here because America had gone stupid when you allowed them too much freedom. Fucking hell, anti-vaxxers. And yeah, tôi là người Việt. If you have anyone who’s Vietnamese then tell them to translate that for you, but it’s Vietnamese.

[@ExHyperion]

@@sirdickkickerthefirst9611 i lived in china for 5 years, absolute shithole, and i live in the wealthiest areas of the wealthiest cities. fuckin 10m x 10m rooms cost a million RMB. no thanks. also, anti vaxxers will die of the plague soon enough.

[@communistspy8714]

Greetings Comrade

[@DustinBarlow8P]

I am American and I was in Hanoi in 2015 for a month for work. You would have never known the Vietnam War ever happened. They are extremely friendly to Americans and I made a lot of close friendships in the month I was there. If anybody ever has the opportunity to go, I highly recommend it.

[@xibonshariar3763]

As always American dnt know thier history 🤣🤣

[@captainjackpugh6050]

@@xibonshariar3763 Do you not understand what this guy said?

[@-silenthallow-9924]

@@captainjackpugh6050 Na he just hating

[@Jose04537]

It's unbelievable how the Vietnamese could forgive after what the USA did to them, specially to William Calley (My Lai Massacre)

[@captainjackpugh6050]

@@Jose04537 All wars have war crimes. In some cases it is by the armies (WW2) in other cases it is by soldiers making their own decisions. Obviously it is not acceptable at all. But we must understand that the actions of some do not represent all.

[@nqd_tree5277]

>be Americans >sending troops to another country that's even can't build a tank >losing war >IF wE uSe tHe nUkeS, iT's g0iNg t0 bE diFFerEnT; iT's n0T 0uR wAr, wE 0nLy hElp tHe S0utH; wE diDN't l0se, wE dId a TacTiCaL RetReAt >profit

[@johnjesus02]

What makes me laugh about the Vietnam war is the fact that the die hard American patriots who are convinced that America won, base their justification on the fact that Vietnam committed many war crimes. 🤣🤣 yes because America have never committed any war crimes 🤣🤣🤣

[@jimmy27829]

Saw this on a reddit comment. “Captain America couldn’t beat Captain Vietnam.” However Captain Starvation did.

[@hypokritical9454]

C A P T A I N C O M M U N I S M

[@Kevin-gy2do]

Hahaha yep

[@Kevin-gy2do]

Fuckin' commies

[@yj9032]

Just like Captain Misinformation beat Captain America.

[@podoesljvc]

No, it's captain of Independent, you feared of communist white.

[@jerseymontolalu2030]

US soldier: who said that Vietnam can beat us? Also US soldier: why those grass are moving?

[@saladinyamamoto8336]

😂😂😂😂

[@invertidols1307]

Why is the grass moving* I think that’s what you meant to say

[@theanhhoang8884]

Why are those grasses moving? Kkkk, funny

[@theanhhoang8884]

@Pinky Toe yes, that's why they were called " baby killer"

[@theanhhoang8884]

@Pinky Toe they were called " baby killer" by americans and invaders by the Vietnamese

[@thenitpicker911]

Hello from Vietnam. I guess the same mistake were made in Afghanistan. You can’t build a effective government using money. Both South Vietnam and Afghan government were funded and built by the US

[@erti223]

Now fails in afganiatan

[@erti223]

Talibans are smart

[@yourface1232]

Because there was no point in guarding a shithole their own military wasn’t worth fighting for fucking nerd

[@mrnobody6322]

Everybody gangsta till they hear Vietnamese language from the bushes and trees

[@Hello-xb1xe]

Hahahahah so funny hahahahah

[@yub2.045]

see my namt, its supremely impotant

[@MrMerzi007]

Many American soldier lose their mind after back from Vietnam

[@beluwuga2229]

Billy The Kid nah us did a lot more most gone crazy

[@juliuscalo1019]

@Billy The Kid aw he mad

[@louispride7695]

Hi Chi Minh: So you’re for democracy? USA: Right Hi Chi Minh: And you want all nations to have independence USA: Yep Ho Chi Minh: And you hate imperialism USA: Yes definitely Ho Chi Minh: So you support Vietnamese independence USA: Well yes but actually no

[@DTD110865]

Ho Chi Minh supported imperialism. Just ask Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Malaysia.

[@trieulequang410]

I think Ho Chi Minh is more of a nationalist as far as I read

[@DTD110865]

@@trieulequang410 I know he was a communist pretending to be a nationalist to the west.

[@minatonamekaze6431]

@@DTD110865 huh, neat, that's what the American teaches you.

[@DTD110865]

@@minatonamekaze6431Actually very few Americans are willing to face this these days. But it's still the truth.

[@kixigvak]

"When I heard the American officers would serve one year in Vietnam and then be rotated out I knew we were going to win." - General Giap

[@thomast3570]

It's called getting your ticket punched. And you get a Combat Infantry Badge.

[@solid_rooster4587]

Just like US, Russia and the USSR have a history of losing against farmers, I Guess guerrilla warfare is their weakness lol

[@UserName-om6ft]

the US has a history of defeating super powers for breakfast even on multiple fronts 😂

[@tiagomonteiro130]

​@@UserName-om6ftNo it doesn't 😂 stop deluding yourself without foreign influence the US wound have lost all look up who actually trained George Washingtons army oh it was the French and Prussians look up who actually reached the white house and burned it down in the second british war look up who actually all fought against Germany and Japan in ww2 little hint not just you and you even adopted their superior tactics after the war and stole the scientists in Operation Paperclip

[@SomeGuy-lr7ms]

1:52 Indochina : our Asian liberators thank god you have set us free Japan: I wouldn’t say free, more like under new management!

[@pacoramon9468]

Is that a fucking Megamind reference.

[@SomeGuy-lr7ms]

@@pacoramon9468 yes

[@whosthisantichrist]

lol megamind

[@hamesladick7217]

Lmao

[@angelcarrera8563]

Nice

[@sauravbarman4252]

U.S. soldier: Coast is clear Tree: Starts giggling. Tunnel beneath: I m about to end this man's whole career.

[@sauravbarman4252]

@Sinjin Smyth not as stale as those dead US soldiers tho.

[@Man1503go.]

US soldier no1:*falls into a tunnel* US soldier no2:*Shot by talking tree* Soviet troops and N. VA*high five*

[@Phinhiyy]

I think that meme starts from this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLHfqmIrNx_jpI

[@SS-hw1ou]

@@sauravbarman4252 you do realise it's not for us to comment in this video.

[@abdihassan7208]

looooool

[@brucelee5576]

" An army can not win a war without the support of the people " Art of War Vo Nguyen Giap understood this well .

[@manwithhair4463]

The Vietnamese are willing to forgive the US for what they did in the past, but that does not mean we forgot about their atrocities.

[@boostedpsi99]

i find it insane that people refuse to accept the fact that we lost that war. ego is to big to accept we suffered a defeat there.

[@Carson509]

It wasn’t our war to win or lose. We were supporting South Vietnam. Once we pulled out of Vietnam and were no longer involved in the war, that is when South Vietnam Lost. We were no longer apart of the war when it ended.

[@Carson509]

@Mira Ferriviario by that logic the British lost the war of 1812.

[@dmitriigritiv6543]

@Mira Ferriviario its called "tactical retreat" in americans book, invaded a country, didnt reach their objectives and ran away

[@happybear3706]

Read Paris peace treaty you dingo, also if the USA attacked north Vietnam capital, China and the ussr world of responded.

[@brotherhoodofsteeld.c.chap1917]

@Mira Ferriviario no it wasn’t, we were there to protect south Vietnam as a sovereign country and we succeeded. We made North Vietnam sign a peace treaty that said they will respect South Vietnam as a country and left thinking that the job was done. However The north broke the peace treaty in the US just didn’t feel like going back.

[@shaunajohnson9333]

Indochina (gets invaided and defeats the French colonizers), the locals “yes, yes! Japan has freed us!” Japan says “Oh I wouldn’t say free, more like, under new management >:)”

[@fiendish9474]

South East Asian history in a nutshell

[@FebiMaster]

Some story for Indonesia, they even released a propaganda saying they're the asian liberator and brothers lmao

[@fiendish9474]

@@FebiMaster pretty sure that's japan, i haven't heard much about unifying asia over here. Was it one of soekarno's programs?

[@johnsmithwatson]

As Indonesian I often heard my grandmother story about Japan occupation. Dutch was doing plantation, English was taxed people meanwhile Japan they take ALL of our rice and put men to labor camp called romusha and woman as comfort woman. Our great-grandmother have to smuggled rice to survive, most of them eat banana's tree and other. Japan was so cruel in WW2 and worst part is they keep denying their war crime till nowadays.

[@FebiMaster]

Fiendish It is Japan and thats what they did in Indonesia, if i remember the propaganda was “Nippon Pemimpin Asia, Nippon Pelindung Asia & Nippon Cahaya Asia” it means “Japan the Protector of Asia, Japan the leader of asia, Japan the light of asia”

[@huyvuquang9533]

I am working as translator for a chiropractor in Hanoi. Often times, when some elderly patients who fought in the war come for treatment, the American doctor and the patients talk about the war a lot and none of them expressed any hatred towards each other even though, in the past, the patient almost died from the doctor’s people. They all understand that’s just the politicians’ game.

[@vladhusnullin1650]

Game of the vietnamese politicians who play lives of vietnamese people and pursue their personal needs. Americans did not come to conquer and subject. Vietnamese politicians knew it, but still threw lives of their people to become dictators of this place. People, unfortunately, knew nothing.

[@pxh6129]

@@vladhusnullin1650 "Americans did not come to conquer and subject" Ah yes the very kind and selfless America, come to some who-no-where jungle opposite side of the world just to heroically fight back the evil of communism, no hidden agenda at all. Oh Glory is the USA... You did not believe that did you?

[@vladhusnullin1650]

@@pxh6129 youtube deleted your comment.

[@beautifullife1881]

Many Anti-Communists still believe that American troops have great kill ratio and won all battles but lost the war in Vietnam. The fact is that their kill ratio was not that great but just normal. 1.1 million NVA against 58,000 Americans, 340,000 South Vietnamese and many thousands allies troops. So the ratio is about 3:1 or 4:1. Considering the North Vietnamese soldier were the attaking side and being outnumbered in the enemy stronghold with 200,000 fighting against 1.5mil US, Allies and South Vietnamese army. They also need to marched 1000km through mountains and jungles under constant airstrike and ambushes of the US. They had much less weapons, resources and almost no medication aids (which contributed to their high death rate). So the efficiency of US army was actually quite poor. That's the reason why they lost the war, not only because of the political failure.

[@UserName-om6ft]

it was actually 1.4 million casualties if we count both NVA/Viet Cong and South Vietnam only took 255,000 casualties the US take 58,000 casualties and the other allies were 20,000 casualties so thats only 330,000 casualties total compared to 1.4 million NVA/Viet Cong casualties plus even more from when they had help from China and North Korea, and total strength of North Vietnamese army in the total Vietnam war was over 9 million plus millions more from Viet Cong because they kept recruiting and more and more people kept joining North Vietnams army plus the American rifles they were using in the Vietnam war the M16 was actually a very bad rifle, in fact the AK47 was actually a much better rifle than the M16 because for 1 the AK47 bullets do more damage than the M16 plus the M16 jammed a lot it was really ineffective and everytime they found a US corpse it was lying next to a jammed M16 rifle which would be the only reason they had casualties and plus the US didnt know the terrain very well the North Vietnamese knew the terrain very well and kept putting traps everywhere the US was on foreign soil they didnt even know of and the public on the home front as very against the war, so the US was never defeated in physical combat

[@beautifullife1881]

@@UserName-om6ft 1.4mil : 330k = 1:4. Even using your number, the ratio is 1:4, not 1:20 like what other claimed. Even NVA had 9mil soldier (1/3 population) or 90mil soldier (if you really want to exaggerate), there are only 200k were fighting against 1.5mil US and South Vietnamese Army in the battles. The US has much more advantage then the NVA who basically only rely on their bravery. Don’t ague, it is a totally lost for US in all aspect.

[@LsimHsady]

USA: "i fear no man but that thing" *Rice farmers with ak47* USA: "i t s c a r e s m e"

[@malaklranal1681]

I get it's a meme, but they're not just Rice Farmers. LIKE MF THEY GOT A GUN

[@Carson509]

I also know it was a joke but I guarantee those farmers with guns were a lot more scared of the US soldiers based on the casualty difference.

[@erichonecker1010]

The Vietcong were all by wiped out in the tet offensive by the US and South Vietnamese but yeah the USA we’re “afraid” of them.. Why are foreigners who comment on KZbin brainless?

[@osamabinladen824]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@juneberryredbull]

The guy at the start had a pump action mosin 👁 🇻🇳👁 -trees start speaking- 4:05

[@user-zo8hs4yh2h]

Vietnam managed to fight the US for 20 years, pretty impressive imo. Vietnam also defeat the French before fighting the US.

[@user-zo8hs4yh2h]

@Evryatis Vietnam got invaded by Japan in WW2, they got invaded by French before that and so on.

[@kolinmartz]

政斌 they didn’t really start to have the ability to fight until they were supported by the allies during the Japanese occupation. WW2 is the sole reason why independence movements even had the breathing room to start fighting.

[@guav2489]

@ThAt BlOwS cHuNkS I respect you and your fellow Americans as a Vietnamese

[@milkncookie]

Lulz let's be honest it's the French.

[@user-zo8hs4yh2h]

@Tecumseh It was a fair fight, the French was greedy even after experiencing occupation.

[@ralphjimenez3191]

You can really see how far The Armchair Historian has come after seeing how much their style has changed.

[@UserName-rc6le]

My name is "User Name", I BAITED so badly by jager that I lose my credibily to anyone sees my comment. I got paraded, tossed and dragged with all total humiliation and embarassment, I played by jagers hands. I spent years policing the comment section and perfectly polish it to look that I am believable, but I lost it all. To my family, friends and fellow workers especially my mother you can't look at me I'm in total shame now 🤡🤡🤡

[@jagerherten5008]

my name is jager herten, i recently got into an argument with a person named "User Name" and i lost badly to the point where i had to make a fake account to pretend im him, I was BAITED so badly by User Name that I lose my credibily to anyone sees my comment. I got paraded, tossed and dragged with all total humiliation and embarrassment, I played by User Names hands. I spent years policing the comment section and perfectly polish it to look that I am believable, but I lost it all. To my family, friends and fellow workers especially my mother you can't look at me I'm in total shame now 🤡🤡🤡 i admit that I jager herten lost the argument to User Name, good job User Name you are good at winning debates and you have a lot of knowledge

[@NapoleonBonaparte-of4sl]

America : "well that was a major success" Every country "you call that a success?" America : "we successfully retreated

[@drewdurbin4968]

How many good boys died so that Johnson and McNamara could save face?

[@larrylinn8589]

President Richard Nixon believed that years of aerial bombing in Southeast Asia to pressure North Vietnam achieved “zilch” even as he publicly declared it was effective and ordered more bombing while running for reelection in 1972, according to a handwritten note from Nixon disclosed in a book by Bob Woodward. About 40% of the names posted om the Vietnam Memorial Wall were KIA while Nixon was President!

[@robinwilliams9970]

Way too many

[@mart1jin509]

0, as they were war criminals.

[@wayneduncan36]

It’s hard but it’s fair

[@MrAndyhdz]

Don't forget Nixon too

[@kingtunip6386]

US history books: "we didn't lose, we pulled out before Saigon fell"

[@kiddbeast909]

Isn't that what he pretty much said?

[@The_Red_Deathh]

Twas a Tie

[@kingtunip6386]

@@The_Red_Deathh twas not a tie, if it was a tie there would still be a south veitnam

[@TXkid124]

@@kingtunip6386 That sounds like South Vietnam lost more than anything. You know south vietnam the country that was involved in the civil war

[@Tikii_9]

@@kingtunip6386 But people make fun of us for losing to the "Rice farmers" but yet we killed 1,100,000 of them and only 58,000 Americans died dumbass.

[@badguy1481]

The MILITARY mission, in Vietnam, did NOT fail. The American military disposed of the Viet Cong threat to the South during the Tet Offensive of 1968. The North Vietnamese Army was CRUSHED by American B-52's during the North's 1972 Invasion. American B-52's so damaged the North Vietnamese capital, during the Christmas bombing of that year, the North was FORCED to sign a peace treaty in early 1973. SO...by the middle of 1973, the war was essentially over. President Nixon had pledged to AGAIN use B-52's to AGAIN crush any future North Vietnamese invasion of the South. The South FELL....TWO YEARS after the American military had been pulled out of South Vietnam, because of a direct sabotage of South Vietnam by America's Democratic Congress. That Congress PULLED funding from the South's ARVN army IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NORTH'S INVASION. That same Congress refused to fund the B-52 bombings of the North's forces that would have HALTED the North's invasion in 1975. The loss of South Vietnam to its Communist enemy was due to the betrayal of America's Congress....NOT the failure of America's military.

[@thomast3570]

American people had enough.

[@badguy1481]

@@thomast3570 Richard Nixon's OVERWHELMING win, in the 1972 election, SHOWED the American people did NOT "have enough". After all the blood and treasure they had expended on that war they wanted an honorable peace. The Democratic Party, however, had its OWN agenda....the American people be damned!

[@thomasbeatty9496]

My country played politics instead of fighting a war. However, my country should never have been there to begin with.

[@dylantesch8973]

Sun Tzu literally said you cant fight an indirect force with an army. That's why we lost. We ignored that strategy boi

[@ryanthan3595]

@Soda King pride brings a very costly lesson my friend.

[@shepherdlavellen3301]

did you get that quote from chapter 5 of the Art of War? If you do then you misunderstood it

[@shepherdlavellen3301]

@Qills Waters unless collateral damage is acceptable and you have enough napalm in your arsenal

[@amateruss]

@Qills Waters Not true in modern warfare.

[@longdang1119]

You ignored a lot of Sun Tzu simply because you were not his students.

[@RedChaos24]

US soldiers when the trees start speaking Vietnamese: My time has come. Soviet Union soldiers when the snow start speaking Finnish: Our time has come comrades.

[@thuhuongphan2314]

That One Guy In Space I am vietnamese and I live in finland

[@Player-st4hn]

Im vietnamese

[@acgaming8544]

France when the Belgium border starts speaking German

[@kevindeleon5681]

USA didn’t really loose they just gave up because as the video explains the war had become very unpopular

[@markperacullo7541]

nope soviet union soldiers when the DESERT AND ROCK speaking afghans: our time has come comrades

[@thefisherking78]

That opening sample is straight from Apocalypse Now, isn't it. I love that movie so much

[@gpropho]

We underestimated their Home Field advantage… & war tactics from their past experiences.

[@greaterbritannia5745]

I’ll tell you The other squad were bush campers Literally

[@hipolitoreyes5579]

Fuckin Campers

[@raptorcell6633]

Fucking bush wookie campers

[@simpolang]

@@raptorcell6633 Dogs taste great over there

[@nikos4677]

At least were better than americans 😱😱

[@andrewunderwood7071]

@@nikos4677 if by better you mean much worse than sure.

[@user-dz1tc6ed1i]

Patriot Americans: *breathing heavily* IT WASNT DEFEAT IT WAS A T A C T I C A L R E T R E A T

[@fredkoerber2469]

i fill u

[@jamesalafayette8255]

Fred Koerber got it you “fill him” but maybe keep that to yourself 🤫

[@juniorcook7334]

I feel like you are stereotyping Americans.

[@dereliris1763]

Кайо tactical withdrawal*

[@burgerking2293]

Кайо it wasn’t really defeat tho, we just had pussy politicians and hippies demoralizing the troops. The Vietnamese had waaaaaay more losses than the Americans did

[@mohanaryal677]

US failed in Vietnam, US failed in Afghanistan dunno how much more US’s gonna fail.😂

[@vizibilibende5194]

Usa is not historical state ...usa is a fake state ...and nobody dont die for a fake state.

[@questionmaker5666]

@@vizibilibende5194 No, it should be the Thirteen Colonies and part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What are you talking about? The UN fully recognises the USA as a state, and has done since its inception. They might not have the will to win foreign wars, but don't underestimate their will to defend themselves.

[@Kyle-kc8cw]

@@vizibilibende5194 From that point of view, many countries are fake states then.

[@_.YouTubeBad_.]

USA has been losing wars ever since the british stopped giving them good intelligence tech anyways

[@superiorshotgun4348]

@@_.KZbinBad_. What are you talking we won wars war before

[@Fotosynthesis858]

I have this friend who moved to the US from Vietnam when he was very young. One day I asked his father, “Do Vietnamese have animosity towards Americans because of the Vietnam War?” And he calmly replied, “Why would we be mad about a war that we WON?!” 🤯

[@solid_rooster4587]

Based

[@UserName-om6ft]

@@solid_rooster4587 1991 the fall of communism was one of the most based years, by the way Vietnam didnt win the war the US won the war

[@UserName-om6ft]

won what? Vietnam never won against the US they won against South Vietnam after the US already left so the US never lost

[@bruhmoment9573]

America: NOOO WE DIDNT LOSE IT WAS A TACTICAL RETREAT Vietnam: whatever we just fought for independence and we got it edit: looks like im wrong about the independence part thank you to the guys in the replies who corrected me

[@bruhmoment9573]

@@McGibbinsCO lmao

[@SuperStar-if9wx]

Vietnam: whatever we just fought for Communism and totalitarianism and we got it*

[@huyvo1980]

@@SuperStar-if9wx vn win because they are comunis? You will never win. You not understand vietnamese.

[@SuperStar-if9wx]

Huy Vo I didn’t say the people, I said the Vietnam cong and northern Vietnamese (which won the war) were actually communists.

[@duylai2224]

@@SuperStar-if9wx and thanks Uncle Ho we got it, for if we get Murican democracy ,we be like lybia now,

[@KHANHNGUYEN-dx9he]

As a Vietnamese, we just need peace and we are willing to fight for it

[@Palestine4Ever169]

KHANH NGUYEN I respect your ppl You defeated the devil empire of America

[@DaRealLegacy]

the arabian falcon WE WUZ KANGZ as we slaughtered millions LOL

[@Palestine4Ever169]

DaRealLegacy Devils

[@tattantatgames226]

As a Vietnamese, all we had to said "We dont want to war, we want peace". But inside we all : "GO HOME G.I". True.

[@HungNguyen-fy8hf]

​@@Palestine4Ever169 tbh, I am a Vietnamese, and I love the USA, despite the war no matter what. Almost everyone in Vietnam loves America and views America positively. Nobody here calls them the "devils". And we even want to turn the US into our ally since we are facing disputes with China in the South China Sea.

[@RabidPrairieDog]

How did the U.S. fail in Vietnam? Well according to my parents who were Vietnamese refugees, the U.S. was more interested in a military victory whereas the Viet Cong and Viet Minh were more interested in a political victory. The U.S. was more interested in propping up a corrupt "democratic" South Vietnamese government that was very unpopular with most Vietnamese.

[@alexknox1596]

This should have way more than 2.5 mill views.

[@NenekAtuk89]

" Do not heavily rely on sheer military power. " - Sun Tzu

[@happybear3706]

Actually, the quote was don’t rely on sheer military numbers (army). But north Vietnam would of been bombed into a hellhole by the USA if it wasn’t for China and the ussr.

[@brutusvonmanhammer]

Actually that was the problem. The US military mollywhopped the NVA and the Vietcong up and down the entire country. Just look at the number of casualties suffered by each side: US military deaths: 50, 000+ N Vietnamese military deaths: 1, 000, 000+

[@NenekAtuk89]

@@brutusvonmanhammer which even I wonder how US war effort failed in Vietnam compared to UK that emerged victoriously in Malayan Emergency from 1948 to 1960.

[@brutusvonmanhammer]

@@NenekAtuk89 the US military did NOT fail in Vietnam. The US military beat the North Vietnamese military in nearly every single engagement of note during the war. The problem was the strategy they employed as well as the political situation (not to mention American public attitude towards the war)

[@NenekAtuk89]

@@brutusvonmanhammer like Tet Offensive, a military disaster for NVA and VC, and ironically a political victory for Vietnam.

[@AlexA-ko8lu]

When your enemy gets 100% of what they fought for, you lost. Period.

[@AlexA-ko8lu]

@User Name a loss is a loss, all is fair in war.

[@AlexA-ko8lu]

@User Name Q:what is it called in war when your enemy gets 100% of what they are fighting for at the end? A: it means they won.

[@AlexA-ko8lu]

@User Name Vietnam wasn't trying to gain any American territory. You think the US fought the war so the communists could take over Vietnam? Let me guess, Trump supporter?

[@AlexA-ko8lu]

@User Name "I'm not even old enough to vote"...it shows.

[@AlexA-ko8lu]

@User Name I'm dealing with a internet genius. Of course you won! I'm off to laugh at losers who think the USSR lost in Afghanistan when they actually won because some Russians wanted to withdraw! Just like what happened to the USA with Vietnam. Thanks for setting me straight with your huge brain.🤣

[@spartanshinde]

Time to make fresh video Afghanistan

[@Bearstat]

The answer is they didn’t lose in fighting but they lost because they pulled out of Vietnam after kicking their ass. When america declared the war lost the Vietcong and north Vietnamese were just as surprised as Americans were that america “lost” the wD

[@19822andy]

USA: Using napalm indiscriminately is absolutely fine. Also USA: Shitty sticks are a war crime.

[@notan_alien881]

We’ll catching stuff on fire is different than setting up traps that will last longer than than the war

[@feketepeon111]

@@notan_alien881 agent orange: Bonjur.

[@prestigehunter9729]

@Syphax Atlas wait they acually complaint about sticks what?

[@riteshyeddu9186]

🤣

[@DuyLe-is9py]

@@notan_alien881 Yes yes burning ppl alive and laid down tons of bombs and chemicals for DECADES. Pretty sure traps also long last like that huh ?

[@kspfan001]

Eh. This is a somewhat outdated overview of the Vietnam War. What happened was the US saw what was a localized Civil War as a part of larger ideological war. This perception was incorrect. Yes, the North Vietnamese ended up recieving aid from China & the USSR, but that's only because the US chose to get involved and try to turn Vietnam into the ideological battleground against communism. The Vietnamese were no friends of the USSR and ESPECIALLY not of China. The Chinese & Vietnamese had hated each other for centuries, it took the French and then the US involvement to get them to temporarily put the past aside. Domino theory was somewhat self fufiling in that the continued intervention of the US in Vietnam's internal struggles pushed the Vietnamese closer to the two established major Communist powers instead of being a more independent Communist country. This is what the actual Vietnamese who fought in the war will tell you about it from what I've gathered in interviews with them on the subject. Side note: Vietnam is one of the top 5 countries that have a positive view of Americans. Something like 80% of Vietnamese have a positive opinion of Americans in recent polling. It's a testament to the character of the Vietnamese that they have been able to forgive and forget the past, and/or smart enough to separate the past foriegn policy of the US government that tried to destroy their country from actual Americans.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

I think it had more to do with trying to keep the region from going from 3 world to 3 world Commies. It worked in Korea for the most part. But I do agree on the Vietnamese outlook on the US. But if only they would submitted. They could of been prosperous like South Korea and Japan. But whatever.

[@dakotaadams189]

@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 The American Military that fought in Vietnam was a much different, dumber, and more bloodthirsty animal than it was in WWII or Korea. I say this as a red-blooded American who would instantly abuse a time machine to fix this and several other wars, but one who can face basic facts.

[@digitalbrentable]

Pretty bizarre how positively the Vietnamese view America nowadays, considering America's atrocious conduct in their country. That said, public perception of the Viet Cong and NVA is also very positive. I guess they're just positive thinkers.

[@kevinconrad6156]

China and Vietnam also fought several skirmishes, localized wars in the late 1970's after the end of the Vietnam war.

[@melvinplaysgaming4030]

Sounds like you are a vc

[@marknowak8172]

Amazing how even three years ago, Griffin was putting out such high quality content, and yet it's somehow even gotten better and more well produced over time

[@icewallowcome8843]

did they lost to a rice farmer?💀

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

_back in Nam_

[@tedcrilly46]

Two words: 'I surrender'.

[@imnotpoorimbroke9560]

U Again? What? I saw u in Infographics Show too

[@tnminhkhoi1398]

Hey Nam,where is my goddam AK

[@shivamnaik8166]

*fighting a war in asia* “I’ve killed this guy like 8 times”

[@whatami1977]

Shivam Naik It's fuking racist dude😒

[@gingerboi8773]

@@whatami1977 no it's a pretty good joke

[@hime8984]

@@whatami1977 no I'm Vietnamese myself this is a pretty good one

[@whatami1977]

Nhai đi nhai lại chả thấy chán

[@kenouk6183]

What am i?? Americans 🙄

[@cunninguncle208akaanutlapu7]

In 1971, US withdrew from Vietnam, having lost thousands of men. In 2021, 50 years later, US withdrew from Afghanistan, having lost thousands of men. I wonder what will happen in 2061

[@rooboy114]

Add some more facts to the commentary. America was going to back Vietnamese against the French in the 1940's. How the French were defeated in 1954.

[@teoborges3949]

USA: I didn't lose it, I merely failed to WIN

[@teoborges3949]

@Zuhdija Muric DUDE! Uncool

[@joshuajoe1419]

Using Oversimplified references, there’s a tax for that.

[@teoborges3949]

@@joshuajoe1419 To the guilhotine!

[@ethanmoon3925]

The US lost the war because its universities and media institutions had been subverted by Communists, thereby succumbing to propaganda and giving up. Watch Yuri Bezmenov The Vietnam War ended with South Vietnam secure, the only problem was weak politicians were afraid to actually support them because successful subversion had swayed public opinion.

[@teoborges3949]

@@ethanmoon3925 To the guilhotine!

[@thefrenchkiwi9435]

Now would be a good time to make "Life in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge".

[@meart7838]

Ok so cool story, my dad was probably in the Khmer rouge and my mom was born in North Vietnam... *wtf*

[@yj9032]

Also ‘life in communist Vietnam - How the Vietnamese were forced into prosperity and development’. It must be exposed!

[@barneyboy7771]

The Vietnamese shut down the Khmer Rouge while the world looked on.

[@theporkiestpie8416]

Good suggestion!

[@tdfern1]

@@yj9032 I agree!

[@Gillagang]

U never mentioned the most influential reason... Creedence Clearwater's "Fortunate son"