HOW did they forget THIS?! Malaysia 134

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[@millerphilip3585]

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[@libbsm9270]

Thanks for interesting videos. I was wondering whether some of the actions they took could have saved Air France Flight 447 like initiating the unreliable speed indication procedure, disabling air data computers which would have switched on the alternative airspeed data/backup speed system if it was installed on the air france a330 and if it had been in use at that time? Just a thought from a layperson.

[@davidt8087]

As a private pilot the first dam. Thing on our preflight or one of the first few things is pitot tube cover. Wowww, after that there is checking pitot tube clog

[@KenFullman]

This is why it should be mandatory to carry a boat hook on board. If they'd had one handy on that day they could have used it to push one of those covers off.

[@ZenkaiAnkoku2]

That extra backup system really made a difference in this flight. I'm surprised the company spent the extra money to have it installed. I'm glad they did.

[@bigbubba0439]

Yeah, quite a miracle, really. Usually all corporations and companies would just save money so they can waste it with something else

[@ma2i485]

It truly made the difference between saving lives and the lives on the flight being a statistic.

[@Arthion]

@@ma2i485 They could probably have safely done so by following charts and getting ATC feedback in theory, but having the simplified visual aid probably made it infinitely easier to handle and less stressful than having to reference charts and verify with ATC all the way down.

[@GabbieTheFox]

From what I understand, the B.U.S.S. is a standard feature on Airbus aircraft. I am not sure if that is because of this flight specifically or not but it's still very reassuring to know that even if all airspeed indications fail, there's still this system there as a fallback.

[@melissagreen_]

This is why lawsuits and compensation pay outs need to be massive.

[@gbrading]

The Brisbane controller being so relaxed and calm about things I think really helped the pilots in this situation I think. But the pilots themselves also behaved excellently under pressure.

[@tonetraveler992]

Massively - not a pilot but watching this I was thoroughly impressed with how well the Brisbane controller handled everything.

[@hssded]

I agree​@@tonetraveler992

[@ffwrude]

Isn't it reenactement ?@@tonetraveler992

[@phillipmoss3564]

They're from Brisbane, a very laid back place ​@@tonetraveler992

[@just_another_guy_on_the_net]

We have some of the best ATC in the world.

[@johnfisher7143]

You forgot to mention that while the plane was still on the ground, one of the pre takeoff checklist items was to check that the pitot static covers were stowed in the cockpit. When that item was read out the response from the first officer was “stowed”. It was later revealed that he was looking at the place where the covers are normally stowed but there was nothing there. He just recited the “stowed” part from memory without actually looking at the covers which would/should have been in the cockpit. That was the last opportunity they had to catch this.

[@christineyoung8345]

OMG

[@ma2i485]

Expectancy Bias

[@TheScrappingJeahaha]

I recall from another review of this incident that those covers were missing on some of Malaysian aircrafts and after the incident had become either a mandatory item or if missing had be explicitly checked again.

[@BjorgenEatinger]

So fired.

[@sharoncassell9358]

We certainly cannot reach out the window and pull the pitot covers off. The landing gear has red flags on the pins that must be pulled prior to flight. Chocks are pulled by ground crew usually. Never assume someone else did it. Ask or check. You're gonna get killed too if such is not done. Your life depends on it.

[@thelazyalgorithm8164]

While the captain made the initial common mistake of not noticing the blocked tubes (after seeing them clear so many times his brain basically ignored the covers) he and his first officer absolutely redeemed themselves with their quick thinking, level headedness and training.

[@d818581dd]

Except he didn't. He literally shined his torch on the pitot tubes and moved on. That's gross negligence right there.

[@thelazyalgorithm8164]

@d818581dd if they didn't the plane would have crashed for sure. An error is just that, an honest mistake. You put someone under the work load of a pilot and that's what can happen, we humans aren't machines and don't get everything correct all the time. They were at least experienced enough to keep their plane in the sky. If they were dullards, I'm too sure everyone on board would have died.

[@martinharvey2390]

​@d818581dd confirmation bias. Your brain tells you you're seeing what you expect to see not what you actually do see. I'm a PPL and I've forgotten the pitot covers lots of times but luckily never got as far trying to take off with them still on.

[@kittanz3033]

Why did he take off in the first place???

[@jimenezgd9916]

@@kittanz3033many times planes have malfunctions, but since there are backups pilots just decided to keep going. In the video they mentioned that having the 3 pitot tubes blocked is almost impossible. We see the video and think they have plenty of time, but in reality is just seconds to think what to do

[@b.t.356]

I fully expected this to have the same tragic outcome as Birgenair Flight 301, Aeroperu Flight 603, and Air France Flight 447. I'm so grateful that I was wrong and that everyone made it back to the ground safely.

[@erics7219]

holy cow, i was so relievedd to know that they landed safely ! i was at the edge of my seat all the time while watching this, Thank God they were safe at the endd!

[@Essie-Cakes]

Yes! Almost the same thing happened to Aeroperu 603! They didn't know their speed and their altitude. Unfortunately no one survived.

[@vergil1155]

The approximate speed display installation saved everyone.

[@terryvarta9306]

That's what happens wen u are willing to spend more for safety, without the backup system noone would have trusted the Malaysia Airline after MH17 and MH370

[@cenedra2143]

What an amazing display of how a crew should work. The pilot knowing the first officer was better off flying and the first officer not being too worried to tell the pilot what he needed. First class!!

[@toddblack3957]

Except for the failure of the pilot to notice the obvious before they took off. This guy should be grounded, not praised. So much negligence by so many.

[@cenedra2143]

@@toddblack3957 definitely agree!! I was referring to their calm and efficiency under pressure. 100% total failure of many and especially the pilot for not making sure the covers were removed and the lives of all those people put I'm danger.

[@spencermoore2468]

I suspect the 1st officer would have spotted the covers had he done the walk around as well.

[@VICNYSE845]

When you take ego out of the equation

[@juliemanarin4127]

Indeed!! Great flight crew management!

[@PlanesAndGames732]

It's ironic how they did everything wrong on the ground, but everything flawlessly right in the air

[@horsewithnoname12345]

A lot of people live their lives that way. They ignore things that take less than 5 minutes to do, only to have to spend countless hours stressed to fix their messes later

[@12SPASTIC12]

Well, they're pilots not drivers ;)

[@YoMamasCasa]

They made several grave mistakes in the air...

[@turkeydoctor5546]

Ya know what is really ironic? Soa many people putting their lives in some idiots hands when he surely knows about the mud wasp and just decided to take off on a whim without making sure the planes pedo tubes ain't got no wasps in it; or making sure the covers are off them.

[@shoutitallloud]

Heroic actions demand faulty actions to come before

[@gosborg]

Here’s a suggestion: put flashing LEDs onto the covers so that they can be clearly seen at night, when the danger of not spotting them would be higher. Also, red is a difficult colour to spot at night. What about adding some reflective tape that will shine when the person doing the external check shines their torch at the nose? These are simple and inexpensive solutions.

[@RinaldiMe1]

What about a mechanism that can cover/uncover the tubes from the cockpit, on land or in flight?

[@khwaac]

@@RinaldiMe1 a jet of air maybe

[@Nikkupikku123]

There should be field in the cockpit that the covers are on/off.

[@7245699]

I believe the current practice is to have red ribbons with text “Remove before flight” on pitot tube covers. On top of that, those covers need to be located in the cockpit while removed - three of them. Also, no spare covers allowed in the cockpit. This way, it’s a matter of counting the pitot tube covers found inside the cockpit to double check they are actually removed.

[@shoutitallloud]

Perharps make this covers such shape so they could be blown off by high speed airflow

[@Ndhdhdb]

This video makes me seriously respect the level of training and mental fortitude you have to have to fly a passenger aircraft.

[@Peterski]

This is an incident where the flight crew are both the heroes and the villains. They managed to successfully come back from a very dangerous situation their negligence and mistakes caused.

[@Lawnjoker]

​@@Peterski it's not they're fault the covers shouldve been removed before the captain was supposed to notice them having done the check many many times his brain didn't notice the covers

[@TheJoStephan]

Wow. I was on the edge of my seat for this one. Almost praying for the pilots as they approached the airport. So happy that it turned out well. Just wow. Great example of terrific team resource management! Well done!

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

I began guessing they survived after he stated third time such a mistake would almost certainly cause a crash😂

[@audbertodiazdiaz6066]

SO WAS I

[@SergeyBerezovikov]

Yes!

[@spikehofmann]

The AT controllers sounded very calm clear and efficient. Good overall aviation industry standards in Aus

[@pibbles-a-plenty1105]

And in the US it's "whadidhesay?"

[@diplomamilldoc8562]

@@Capecodham Australia

[@johnthompson9724]

agree strongly excellent ATC

[@scdawn8658]

Excellent retelling of the events. I was on the edge of my seat the whole flight not knowing how it would end.

[@angelfriend5211]

..especially as the narrator said that heavy breathing had been heard later on the voice box…I thought they had crashed

[@nopamineLevel100]

Same - and I've heard this story from a few other aviation channels. This one is awesome!

[@peterdr.horvath5685]

Me too.

[@ma2i485]

I'm glad the 54 year old pilot didn't let his ego get in his way of letting the more experienced F/O fly the plane. It was a huge relief this plane landed safely.

[@Jens-Viper-Nobel]

So, the captain and FO made a mistake concerning the walkaround and the stowage of the covers, but once they maneuvered the aircraft, they did everything by the book and by the memory lists they could think of, And they double checked when they thought it prudent. That's some level of CRM and also both not umping to any conclusions, but only working according to the available information rather than guessing. Truly cool and admirable handling of an extreme situation. The ATC guy kept his cool calm voince through the whole ordeal and even announced speeds without being asked (which gave the pilots an up to date reference that was not very accurate, but still useful and still more frequent than only if asking. And he did everything the pilots asked of him so as to keep them in best condition and lowest stress level possible. I sure hope that somebody gave that guy a raise and a shoutout that could be heard across the continent.

[@trevorpeterson6803]

I never had much interest in planes and plane events, but this channel is something else! I've been watching these back to back for a few days now. Fantastic content, and I love the simulation to show details to plane-illiterate people like myself

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you like them!

[@aiyedunabraham507]

Thanks for the successful landing.But be more vigilant when caring out safety checks before take off.

[@LordBathtub]

Ive never heard such clear and calm instructions from ATC. I want that man to explain everything

[@albin2232]

Amazing. Shows why a good walk-around is important; but they were spot on in the way they dealt with the situation.

[@Quartzteamrealty]

Shout out to Malaysia air for installing a non required 300k back up speed system that saves 200+ lives

[@foxtrotjulietbravo6167]

Absolutely! 300k doesn't even equal one life, IMHO.

[@daisycrude]

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[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you for the very kind words, much appreciated!

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I strongly agree!

[@jjouney]

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[@Jim-lr3kv]

@@GreenDotAviation As someone who has watched things like this for years there is one person who, in my opinion, does a better job at this area than you but that is with several qualifiers. Mentor pilot is far more pilot, instructor, and career focused. You are more general public focused, and you do a fantastic job at that, far better than anyone else. The editing is spectacular and the content you produce is above and beyond any syndicated TV show (we all know which one I'm talking about) that has ever been aired. Thank you, and keep up the good work.

[@nysockexchange2204]

@@Jim-lr3kv Mentor has fantastic videos but I just can't understand him well enough through that thick accent of his so I've given up trying.

[@melissagreen_]

It's an unfortunate irony that the safer air travel becomes the more likely complacency sets in!

[@cookie5535]

complacency kills as much as technological failures do!

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I’m glad you’ve noticed an improvement! 🙏🏼

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I found your channel only a week ago and in that time you have become my favorite channel covering aviation mishaps. The format, narration, and animations are flawless. Thank you for all the work that you do here.

[@johnthompson9724]

Yes i only found it by accident before Christmas 2022 into 2023 -

[@nancy9324]

Couldn't agree more! Just found this channel about 2-3 weeks ago and instantly subscribed

[@twisted_tony]

Green Dot, thank you for your content. Your writing, narration attention to detail, your editing, and the knoledge that you impart in your work is second to none. For me, this was one of your best!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you! Lots of work went into this one :)

[@westwindman]

I'm no pilot but; these series of videos are excellently informative, straightforward, no irritatingly dramatic music and a smooth vocal tone which makes the whole viewing, immensely interesting and absorbing. Respect to the host ...

[@KoffinKat]

Top notch CRM and great communication from everyone involved, including the ATC. Everyone knew what their role is, and did it well (in flight, that is. Pre-flight, everyone failed to notice the covers). Another great video with a happy ending 🙂

[@andrewpeak1124]

I’m surprised that the pitot tube covers could not be made of a material that, while being strong enough to stay in place on the ground, are not designed to ‘rip off’ the pitot tubes once the aircraft gets to a certain speed. Could even be designed with a type of ‘pocket’ or ‘sail’ that fills with the oncoming air mass at a given speed, resulting in the cover being ripped off. This would give an extra level of redundancy for this error that has happened before on other aircraft

[@wilkgr]

I can't help but wonder if that could then get ingested into the engines and whether that would cause issues.

[@cakes1831]

As long as it isn't metal it should be okay as they can ingest ​small birds without failing @@wilkgr

[@Q8Pilot]

I just wanted to take the time to tell you that I really enjoy your channel. Your presentation style, approach, and explanations are simply outstanding. Truly well done!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks so much! :)

[@Doogle136]

A brilliant depiction of this incident. It is beyond my grasp why or how such a simple task can go overlooked- beyond not being fully conscious of the task at hand. Truly a compelling story. Thanks so much!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@gosborg]

At a guess, I would say that confirmation bias and being lulled into a false sense of security may well have been significant factors.

[@gosborg]

Here’s a suggestion: put flashing LEDs onto the covers so that they can be clearly seen at night, when the danger of not spotting them would be higher. Also, red is a difficult colour to spot at night. What about adding some reflective tape that will shine when the person doing the external check shines their torch at the nose? These are simple and inexpensive solutions.

[@dwmac2010]

How about a cover design that would self destruct at over 100 kt, and blow away?

[@snwfx5295]

@@dwmac2010 that was my thought too! make them in a way that give way at a certain speed so air can pass through again!

[@Q8Pilot]

Thank you for your efforts. Outstanding channel!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you so much for the very generous support!

[@tinashechikoz]

This is the best investigative utube channel i have ever followed... i first followed the channel a week ago and i was praying for one story with a happy ending , God gave me this one ..thank you

[@renderije5331]

I was getting so nervous while watching (great production btw), but listening to the captain, first officer and air traffic controller working so well together made me feel somewhat at ease.

[@keziasarah]

You would think by now that the covers would be designed with fins that rip off automatically above say 100mph to give the pilots some chance of a speed reading when going airborne. Not an ideal solution but engineered solutions will always outweigh reliance on humans. Alternatively, would it not be possible to drop the wind turbine used to generate backup electricity in the event of engine failure and use its revs/minute as an approx airspeed indicator?

[@SallyGreenaway]

All very good points that were also preying on my mind too...

[@tugatomskanimation6370]

That's a great idea! 💡

[@grmpEqweer]

Those are both good ideas, and I think they should be developed. ...I will put a military joke here: "If you make something idiot-proof, they'll just invent a better idiot."

[@CAROLUSPRIMA]

I particularly like your first idea. The second may be just as good but I don’t know what’s out there that may make it problematic as it seems to be a bit more complicated than the first. Or perhaps not. In any case neither occurred to me.

[@taridean]

Both ideas look good in theory, but they're a number of issues to address first. The existing covers didnt fall off because the direction of the airflow pushed them more onto the pitot especially against the stem attached to the fuselage. They essentially got locked into place. To make something that rips off, 1.) it has to be made of a material that is robust enough to do its job on the ground even on a very windy day. 2.) Light & flexible enough to tear off without taking the pitot tube with it as it's pushed against the stem and parts of the ripped cover itself not being lodged in the pitot hole, thus blocking it again. The second idea might not be able to give you an accurate airspeed as it depends on how the wind is behaving and air density. Plus the propeller blade (pitch) angle on the turbine may periodically need to be adjusted at different speeds which just adds more workload for the pilots to monitor especially in an emergency. Overall, good ideas in theory, they just need more exploration for feasibility.

[@lumen8r]

Great story telling, dude. Well done!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you so much!

[@patrickoleary2862]

Great job putting this together / excellent production. Was very impressed also with ATC controller / stayed nice + calm + very clear on his communications with stressed pilots.

[@iSamiahmad]

Absolutely love the way you narrate the story with tech specs, human side, and tiny details. Not sure if you have already done this but a podcast version of them will be amazing too.

[@willk7184]

Ok so major mistake, but wow what a fine recovery. Great job by the crew working things out, and to Airbus for having that extra backup readout.

[@PoloABD]

Well done MA for installing the back up air speed.

[@VGF80]

Never underestimate backup systems no matter how situational they can be.

[@danniballecter7936]

As soon as you said, at the beginning, they had unreliable air speeds....I suspected it would be a pitot tube issue. So glad that this flight crew was able to get the plane back on the ground safely. Excellent CRM in the cockpit that night! Also, hats off to ATC for doing all they could to help. That is such a stressful job, and I don't think they get enough credit. I know I could never do that job.

[@cindytinney7263]

3 questions I'm going to ask when or if I fly. 1.). Pitot tubes uncovered 2.) enough fuel 3.) exit door location

[@syedtaqi6122]

The pilots are real heroes and the Brisbane ATC did a great job guiding them throughout the ordeal, great team work saved a disaster

[@johnthompson9724]

Brisbane ATC very good Cool calm He got them back on the runway

[@rockydify]

ATC was so calm! It was like he was ordering a Big Mac

[@PerfectTimingProductions585]

Spoiler alert!!

[@jtc1964x]

The pilots were idiots! 1. Didn't check the tubes. 2. Didn't abort. 3. Didn't go to TOGA and climb. THEY almost killed everyone

[@bluecoffee8414]

​@@jtc1964x Yep. They didn't abort despite no speed and they are taking off AT NIGHT. Plus they even failed to perform the memory items for thrust and pitch to avoid stall. They even screwed up the radio comms

[@kikieran]

I never realised the detail you put into these vids until I saw this one. I fly in and out or Brisbane monthly (as a passenger). The detail with the airport, the surrounds, you even managed to put Bribie island in it! Amazing attention to detail.

[@billb7876]

He is using a flight sim lol.

[@MooneyOvation2]

Great support from the controller who was extremely calm and clear with his instructions.

[@zedV105]

You are a phenomenal narrator. This episode was gripping, heart-wrenching and tearful when it all ended well. A huge THANK YOU !

[@gulabax3841]

Both incredible pilots and ATCer. Great communication between the pilots. Way to go malaysia airlines for installing extra systems.

[@baker_canner]

These are the videos I love: when the pilots, working under very difficult conditions, are able to land their aircraft and bring everyone back alive.

[@justicemaake684]

This channel is great and there's no "over narration" or even "over animation" and I have to commend the crew of this flight as they handled this dire situation in the most systematic and followed the checklist to the latter. Gratitude also goes to the captain for realizing that they're in trouble and there's no need for him to be" the boss". I really love this channel together with Mentour Pilot and Pilot_Obet as with Pilot_Obet he's one guy who takes you in the flight simulator or real plane and demonstrates what the crew does in many scenarios. His videos are sweet and short with succinct and concise demonstrations and I will recommend it to anyone interested in aviation. I'm looking forward to the growth of this beautiful Greendot Aviation Channel

[@davidyolchuyev2905]

Love your videos a lot. They give me nightmares some nights as I watched them too much, but your voice is so calming and I like the information you provide.

[@zeinaaaaaa7468]

it is fascinating how calm everyone sounds on the radio communications considering how dire their situation could turn at any moment

[@fkangalov]

Ironically I am a nervous flyer but your videos are awesome and educational. It's still kinda calming knowing that we learn from mistakes like these and planes hopefully become even safer. Keep up the good work!

[@Rosstacular]

Great communication and teamwork between ATC and pilots

[@gosborg]

That was a fascinating incident, well narrated. I hadn’t heard about this and I find cases where the flight crew were able to overcome such problems very interesting.

[@lenacheney]

I find your voice so calming even when your narrating panic inducing content

[@qavaqo6559]

The fact that these failures can happen is insane. BTW Good content!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Absolutely, glad you're enjoying the vids :)

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@GreenDotAviation I did not about this case

[@tankthearc9875]

there has got to be a another way to tell approx. speed if they fail

[@TheRealNTSBlol]

There is. The BUSS, lol!

[@reyjusuf]

Australian accent is so calming in stressful situations

[@moizfarhat3513]

I couldn't even focus on the situation, distracted by the clear english of Australian atc

[@Swagswagonyou420]

@@PetroleumPatchesI think he means the ATC accent - as an Aussie that accent is Australian. Are you talking about the narrator?

[@NinjagoGuy416]

He’s Irish my dude 😂😂😂

[@EtsuKahata]

Wow

[@annacmoreno1]

I was impressed with the clear calm communication from the ATC guy.

[@brendadryden356]

The ATC did an AMAZING job giving instructions slowly and clearly so there was no misunderstanding. Great job by all.

[@winter77s]

Your content makes school so much more bearable, thankyou for these amazing analysis videos!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Glad you enjoy them!

[@winter77s]

@@GreenDotAviation you definitely deserve more attention, the quality of your content is spectacular, especially given the frequency of uploads.

[@GreenDotAviation]

@@winter77s I appreciate the kind words :)

[@diplomamilldoc8562]

The clarity and cool of the air traffic controller was very commendable.

[@mrluckyuncle]

I wonder whether they considered requesting an escort - like a military jet. That would have provided an accurate air speed and other information - like whether the gear was down.

[@alexroselle]

Whether that was possible would depend on time, distance, and military readiness factors which may be hard to know in this case. But even air force fighter jets on alert status take several minutes to get airborne even in a “scramble”

[@cnvdh3514]

Perfect example of Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. Both captain and first officer working as a team and not letting ego or panic take over

[@christophersenn1304]

Thanks!

[@ryanmcgovern1322]

Crazy how both the pilot performing the walk around AND the ground crew never realised or drew attention to it

[@andy70d35]

Familiarity if they are never used except for Brisbane, then as was the case with this flight it was right in front of the pilot on walk around as well as ground crew and tug operator. but now one saw it.

[@sifuerik]

Complacent pilots! No excuses! Could have been a real disaster!

[@sifuerik]

@Studio732JRL Yes, thank god lives were saved! However, pilots are not paid to burn fries and face customer dissatisfaction. They are highly trained and well paid, with protocols to follow . And one of them is to make ground checks before flight that pitot tubes are removed before flight!!! Pitot tubes getting stuck or iced have caused major aviation disasters . No, I am not perfect. I was a student pilot before. My son is a commercial pilot and agrees that the particular hindsight, simple mistake could have caused the lives of a few hundred people. Pilots are not allowed to make that kind of mistake! Maybe to you it's no big deal to you, but it's a very big mistake . Unlike equating it to burning your fries in a McDonald's store. The next time you fly, I hope you don't get Pilots who believe, like you, that if they forgot to check if the Remove Before Flight pitot tube covers, it's no big deal. Just like over doing your fries at Macdonalds! Cheers!

[@2760ade]

@@sifuerik I agree with your comment totally! If a highly trained and very well paid professional misses something so simple, they are in the wrong game. The McDonalds comparison/analogy is absolutely irrelevant!!

[@sarahfrith1984]

That is one bad day at the office!! Terrifying how something like that can be overlooked!

[@James-wp4jq]

Just discovered this channel and currently binge watching all your videos, keep up the good work!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Will do! Enjoy the vids :)

[@Gsoda35]

by sharing this story you made me appreciate the crews work and would gladly fly on their plane. you are a hero.

[@LJinx3]

So many missed opportunities to stop this before it happened! But it also makes me realise how many checks go on - there must be people that miss this kinda thing but we never know because someone else catches it. Very safe.

[@stevenwest000]

Very impressed with Malaysian Airlines to install that costly extra BUSS. Despite their initial poor “walk around” the pilots certainly pulled it together with fantastic CRM Why did turning off the Air Data computers disable so many other functions ? Wow, all this because of some probes being covered that was completely avoidable. Thanks again for another great video Mr Green Dot

[@tomstravels520]

Because certain functions rely on airspeed and altitude data

[@polygontower]

@@tomstravels520 But how does stearing require airspeed data at all. It just needs to do as told by the pilots right?

[@tomstravels520]

@@polygontower the NWS isn’t lost because of the blocked pitot tubes, it’s lost because the gear had to be lowered manually which meant shutting off hydraulic fluid to the landing gear…..which subsequently means the NWS will have no hydraulic fluid to move it

[@2760ade]

@@tomstravels520 Ah! Thanks for that answer - was bothering me as well!😀

[@lepoldbuttersstotch]

I'm going to make it my own duty to see from the gate that the tubes are uncovered on any flight I step foot on! I just watched your other video with the Peruvian airline the other night!

[@temoork-0197]

I would really love for you to make a video on the PIA 8303 crash. Perhaps one of the worst crew decisionmaking examples in the entire history of aviation. Loving your work by the way! Keep the vids coming :)

[@Forakus]

Some of the best pilots I've seen in one of these videos, other than the initial mistake ofc

[@christianpankratz]

Fascinating how the crew worked together. And what a genius system this backup air speed system is, using the angle of attack sensor.

[@Volvo8Fifty4Life]

Your videos are absolutely brilliant! Keep up the great work. Thank you.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks, will do!

[@BuggatiWeryon]

Absolutely stunning! Glad that all survived! Watching from Latvia

[@bdy576]

Kudos! Outstanding video. It seems odd to me, given the number of incidences there have been with covered/inhabited pitot tubes, that they are not built with a sensor that indicates their status to the cockpit. Perhaps this is incredibly, impossibly difficult to do but I seriously doubt that. And I'm sure that the aviators wouldn't object to such technology!

[@Zenithell]

As an aside to the pilots getting the plane down in good order, the ATC controller was one of the most well spoken I've heard in a long time. He did a really good job speaking clearly and helping the pilots get down. As upsetting as it is the situation happened, the teamwork and coordination to resolve it was outstanding.

[@gooner72]

Brilliant help and brilliant job by ATC here, he was absolutely fantastic......

[@norbertwilfredban6743]

Recommendations from the incident investigations are commendable as they provided realistic preventive measures to stop same or similar occurrences. Great presentation Green Dot, very educational for aviators!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks! I'm glad :)

[@stone_pog8918]

Never seen this one! I'm sure it will be a great retelling by Greendot, that's for sure.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@change_your_oil_regularly4287]

It's unreal how the pilot doing the walk around looked straight at the tubes and covers but it didn't register in his mind at all. Crazy that you can miss something right in front of your face if you let your mind wander. He has probably done that walk around hundreds/thousands of times and very very rarely finds an issue so apparently became somewhat complacent. It can happen to anyone. If you've been driving for a couple of decades or more you've likely let your mind wander while driving and realised you couldn't really remember driving a portion of the trip

[@EdOeuna]

Not to defend the Captain but Brisbane was one place where the pitot covers are used. They are seldom used anywhere else in the world when the aircraft may only be on the ground for 2 hours.

[@burkezillar]

This is where my main fear of flying comes from. It only takes someone important to have a bad day for everyone to have a bad day. Potentially, of course.

[@Jabarri74]

My thought exactly if you look at something 100,000 times are you really even looking any more? Not excusing anyone but its human nature. We have different modes to our brain and mostly we use autopilot not the thinking one

[@stephenanderle5422]

It said the pilot stood looking at them for a few seconds before moving on. That means he saw the covers but because all three were covered he apparently presumed that was the way they were supposed to be. Must have assumed that it was something to keep the tube from freezing in flight. Probably had never seen them before.

[@EdOeuna]

@@daftvader4218 - I said used when the aircraft is on the ground for 2 hours, so the entirety of your reply is just your usual trolling. And the comment about my arm chair is an ad hominem attack, which is a poor way of debating or arguing, but then you know no other way of commenting on these channels. They’re always personal attacks against other people because your own arguments are junk.

[@sagittarius_]

This video puts this channel on the absolute top of the flight channels on KZbin. Super professional graphics and speak. It really is an exciting thriller to follow. Thanks for a really good job.👏👏👏

[@abubakaryaacob9427]

Thanks

[@medicicomplex]

I never felt this intense watching an aircraft video. The pilots did an amazing job.

[@m.g.540]

Complacency can happen in everyday situations, focusing completely on the task at hand is easily overlooked in normal situations by slight distractions that allow common triggers do not register, the Pilots missed triggers on the ground but focused completley in the air where complacency was not possible due to an abnormal situation.

[@tfreej920]

"Please don't let it be the pitot tubes," I said to myself, just before you mentioned that they were covered. 😱

[@michaelschwartz9485]

This is a great story! Everyone involved did a superb job! Awesome job Flight Crew!!!

[@Sizuykeks]

Airbus charging extra 300k for a backup speed scale safety system is just beyond my comprehension. Not just a pilot's convenience item, but a life-death scenario resolution tool, it should be equipped standard on all airplanes. Kudos to Malaysia Airlines for installing it.

[@jeevacation]

drop in the bucket compared to flight cost

[@Gruftkriecher]

Why? Why is it beyond your comprehension? Does it cost money? Yes, obviously. Is it mandatory? Nope, it isn´t. Should it be? Probably. By now it should be quite obvious that (most) companies - be it a manufacturer or an airline - won´t go beyond what the regulations require. Great that in this case Malaysia Airlines did but the only way to implement these rather simple technologies would be by regulations making them mandatory.

[@connycontainer9459]

It costs what it costs. It's probably not the most profitable item.

[@wl6020]

Thats why some people buy cars without side impact airbags even though it will save their lives in a t bone accident. It costs thousands and some people choose not to get it. In a perfect world, everyone will buy a full size brand new suv with side impact airbags.

[@Anonymous-m9f9j]

Seems like a tax for people who don’t check the tubes

[@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953]

Well done to Malaysia Airlines for putting safety ahead of profit margins, at a cost of $300,000 per aircraft this system probably averted what could have been a major disaster.

[@michaelnoland2017]

Wonderful video, very well done, can’t wait for the next one!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you, next one is coming out soon 🙏🏼

[@ZombieSazza]

What an absolutely amazing display of CRM, professionalism, pilots working together to get their bird on the ground safely. Such a mad ride, I’ve no doubt this was absolutely terrifying for the pilots, but they did amazing. ATC also did absolutely amazing, they couldn’t have done a better job helping them get on the ground safely.

[@tomhartl6330]

@@Capecodham Crew Resource Management

[@Iron-Bridge]

@@daftvader4218 You are right about the failure in pre flight and preliminary flight procedure. But you can still give credit to the crew for the in flight recovery you angry little sod. Though a justifiably angry one. 😄

[@SpecialEDy]

As a mechanic, I'm often bothered by aircraft incidents. Early on, I would of asked for priority from ATC and a dedicated controller to read off ground speed once every minute or as it changed in increments of 5-10 knots. Similarly, in situations of hydraulic failure, if I were the pilots I would order the cabin crew to utilize passengers as ballast to steer the aircraft. All passengers to the left or right to bank, move passengers forward or aft to pitch, dumping the fuel would increase the effectiveness of passengers shifting the CG. They never seem to utilize the flaps, slats, and spoilers enough in flight to overcome flight control issues either.

[@tomstravels520]

The cabin is fairly narrow I doubt using the passengers would work. Look up the EHA's/EHBA's that airbus use on the A380 and A350. They can still operate control surfaces if the main hydraulic system is lost

[@curtisj2165]

Outstanding airmanship, so calm and methodical

[@mmneander1316]

What an amazing channel. The approach of looking at air accidents especially through the viewpoint of psychology is extremely interesting, and seems extremely useful and educational. Good work! Blessings.

[@charlesrobinson7249]

Great to see it ended safely, my heart was in my mouth

[@rubengarciabri9282]

Amazing video, this is top quality

[@tracytrawick322]

Always is, he's got it going on, big!

[@michaelarchangel1163]

Also, luminous pitot tube covers would be a good idea, for night flights, when viewed with a torch before takeoff.

[@desertstar223]

Already viewed this incident on another channel. However, yours have better visuals, and the included communication with the airport was a welcome bonus. Keep up the good work.

[@briannumme9337]

Even only watching this I was tense! Great narration and explanations. Thank-you.

[@GreenDotAviation]

You're very welcome!

[@Nafeels]

With all the automation present in modern commercial aircraft why does the pitot tube design still necessitated manual removal of blockers and no warning system present in cockpit instruments if the pitot tube gets blocked? At least in the automotive industry the option to see if one of the sensors are active or not are possible. More so on chemical plants, as transmitters within the instrumentation system can get faulty and be easily diagnosed. The Aeroperu 603 incident was truly a tragic case of this, as you mentioned. Either way, thanks for covering this incident! As a Malaysian avgeek hearing high profile cases of our flag carrier being discussed other than MH17 and MH370 is indeed a once in a blue moon occurrence.

[@adamw.8579]

Where was takeoff callouts: "Speed live" and "80 knots"? Usually was more than one stage required for disaster happen.

[@Nafeels]

@@adamw.8579 In modern Airbus planes they would actually do the takeoff callouts for you. Your point still stands though, it's good to verify information through repetitions of the same thing.

[@Sheychan]

This was my first time hearing about this flight untill I see this video. I thought this is gonna be another doomed flight.. I got heavy goosebumps when in the end of the video, everyone was safe.. 🥺

[@juliemanarin4127]

Thank God they landed safely and all on board were ok!

[@brandonrich4956]

This recovery was incredible. The backup system and the CRM made all the difference!

[@JuniperLittleTree]

I love the calm speed of narration and minimal use of soundtrack. That's why I watch.