HOW did this plane FALL APART after takeoff?! | United 811

[@GreenDotAviation]

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[@GreenDotAviation]

@Joe Shmoe Thanks I'll have a look into it!

[@djplayzyt1234]

@@GreenDotAviation can u do Qf 1 or qf 30? The one that overrun and the one that got a hole mid flight

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

Congrats, you are officially a meme

[@djplayzyt1234]

@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock ?

[@MrCaiobrz]

"It was not human error .... " well, who designed the plane? it was a human error in design wasn't it?

[@rezhaadriantanuharja3389]

One mechanical engineer out-investigated a whole NTSB investigation team? That’s a kind of shame one does not simply recover from as engineer

[@fuckgoogle2554]

Can’t find what you’re paid not to find.

[@anhedonianepiphany5588]

Without his tireless, and considerably hindered, personal investigation the 747, or at least some models, may have ended up being as poorly regarded as the DC-10 (not to mention the many lives that would have potentially been lost along the way).

[@matthewellisor5835]

That's the difference between someone seeking truth and a group settling to justify their salaries. Which would you trust with your family? I don't mean to disparage those at NTSB or similar agencies who "mean to do good" for their neighbors, it's just to identify that the mission is different and the stakes are high. One person can make a difference, one group can set a meeting to find a way to prove that their department deserves continued funding. To quote a popular talking picture: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." There's probably a good doctoral thesis on philosophy out there and wrapped-up in that nugget of the Stanford prison experiment and the "tall stick" police in rounding the subjects up. As I haven't the patience or the gastrointestinal fortitude, I'll leave to the reader that opportunity.

[@CriticalInception]

Gov't efficiency at it's finest

[@naughtiusmaximus830]

That was when the NTSB was largely credible too. Not so much anymore. Kinda like NASA.

[@wthalex9319]

It feels more appropriate watching videos like this from an aviation channel, not a horror channel. It feels like I’m receiving a respectable, factual video essay, no over-dramatisation for profits sake. Thank you very much Green Dot Aviation.

[@powertrip6426]

Yes I agree wholeheartedly. He definitely gives them the respect they deserve.

[@liamcollinson5695]

I agree I watched one channel that covers themepark accidents and they added creepy music and clickbait thumbnails I even commented that it was disrespectful to the victims particularly the thumb nails and was told to not watch if I didn't like it

[@frankyb5064]

@@liamcollinson5695 what channel was it?

[@liamcollinson5695]

@@frankyb5064 I believe it was infamous accidents

[@lebahfavoritmoe]

@@liamcollinson5695 i searched the channel up and wow. didnt watch the videos but even looking at the thumbnails alone it looked really clickbaity.

[@zipjay]

In case anyone was wondering, the crew was awarded the Heroism Award by then US Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner

[@amarillagriffin7427]

That's good to know.

[@malkymcfly]

I was going to ask that….honestly these guys are who I would trust with my life 👏👏👏

[@Maetrx]

I did wonder if recognition of all the crew had been acknowledged, thanks for the update much appreciated

[@aishadalwai1178]

Was about to say the crew should be awarded handsomely

[@mr.blackhawk142]

What were the families of the 9 dead people awarded?

[@vgamedude12]

How calm and collected the pilots were was admirable.

[@joefox9875]

It was crazy. In the cockpit recordings they sound like bad actors who don't care about their role. "Okay, It looks like we got a bomb ah that went off on the right side"

[@ever7672]

They often are… amazing

[@dillonyang6869]

@@joefox9875 Yeah that was a reenactment

[@mr.blackhawk142]

There was no re-enactment so that part of it wasn't at the forefront here.

[@Bailey2006a]

Yep, the re-enactors have Irish accents … pilots were Americans

[@nwbackcountry5327]

I met Cronin in 1990. He was giving a detailed breakdown of this event at an aviation conference. Cronin said he was hand flying the aircraft when the side blew out, and remarked if the autopilot had been engaged, he might not have been able to regain control the aircraft. Luckily, Cronin had a habit of hand flying all the way to cruising altitude. He also had to input full left rudder immediately after the explosion to maintain control.

[@jaybee9269]

Lucky man.

[@juliemanarin4127]

An amazing pilot!

[@carolynromero4462]

Superb flight team, all worked together through good communication, thinking ahead and planning. I hope Cronin got the recognition he deserved.

[@phillylarkin.s1930]

I met Cronin in 92 also

[@horsewithnoname12345]

I am still in awe of the work of these 3 pilots, how they handled the situation so professionally and against all odds were able to land the plane as safely as possible given the circumstances. Employing full rudder is also very labor intensive and I can’t imagine how hard that would be on a nearly 60 year old man while trying to figure the entire situation out.

[@rilmar2137]

One of most fascinating aviation stories. The pilots did a great job here. The Campbells are heroes in their own right. This is how far parental love can go

[@m118lr]

..absolutely true. Totally dedicated and involved in bringing Boeing to task. And SHAME ON Boeing for their LACK of honesty and denying the issue from the start.

[@debbiebrock9121]

I have flown several times & never felt uncomfortable but watching these I get chills!

[@imcaufieldholt]

@sandpiper Don't be ridiculous.... I imagine you see your future in tea leaves too.

[@squirrelhallowino29]

@@debbiebrock9121 I felt that way a few years ago and stopped watching these accident videos. Don't worry though, recently I found how much you can learn about design, good and poor choices, and also admirable and professional people doing the work. This story was amazing.

[@Greg-yu4ij]

That poem is so haunting. It’s stuff like that which suggests a supernatural connection

[@shaneatl]

damn man I would have guessed this channel would have been around for years. 9 months? waaaaaaaay better content than a lot of channels that have been around for a lot longer.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Much appreciated! More videos on the way 🙏

[@juliemanarin4127]

I agree...love this channel!

[@danm3195]

I've only just discovered it,and subbed.

[@BeHuman9540]

@@danm3195 me too… stumbled on a video.. got hooked and subbed… now bingeing…. Well formed content… details are good, narration is good… animation can get better but its good as it is too….

[@mr.blackhawk142]

@@juliemanarin4127 WHO love?

[@toddclean547]

I encourage people to go watch the documentaries regarding the insane amount of work the parents did and all the resistance they got from the FAA and Boeing. They drove across the USA many times. Also, the day they removed all the documents from a room and loaded them in their car and took off. One of the best stories ever.

[@bar10ml44]

The cover up was disgusting but then it is America. Had the parents not had the means and determination it would have remained covered up.

[@toddclean547]

@@bar10ml44 America may have it's corruption and coverups, but it is still far far less than many other countries (Russia, China, +++)

[@bar10ml44]

@@toddclean547 Big difference. There is no pretence with the other countries. With Russia, China or North Korea totally vile however America stands for the platinum standard in democracy and freedom. The American people are hospitable, kind and welcoming but they have been completely brainwashed by the flag and that American dream. I too was brainwashed. As a young kid in Glasgow, I drove my dad mad because I was so obsessed with America, mainly through the movies and television. The world has changed dramatically and I am much older and a million times more cynical. The current situation in the US is so sad but I’m in London now and the UK is equally as corrupt.

[@grahamstevenson1740]

@@bar10ml44 Where the USA leads, sadly the UK often follows. The corruption in high places today is beyond belief. I'd say that the case of Enron first brought it into sharp relief.

[@billb7876]

@@bar10ml44 Your right there UK is one of the most corrupt places in the world and its going to get much worse as we don't have guns to protect ourselves from the criminals in suits and their police thugs. I have been to Russia and would feel much safer there than this prison island.

[@seattleraf]

It’s a miracle they made it back and more than 300 lives were saved!

[@UwU-ok2jr]

@@Ansset0 the pilots skill and training caused the miracle. also, there was no coincidence the pilots safely landed the plane with intent and were careful not to crash so it wasn't luck based

[@karolakkolo123]

@@UwU-ok2jr The word miracle doesn't have to be used in the literal sense, you know that right?

[@jhh2001]

Thanks you ruined the whole thing

[@mr.blackhawk142]

I watched a similar YT segment last year, where errors were made refueling bc of metric conversion mistakes! About 300 people lost their lives bc of this!!! As a Canadian I curse every time somebody online uses metric. I'm old and grew up on ft. and inches.

[@mr.blackhawk142]

@@UwU-ok2jr Yup, it's 30% inspiration, and 70% "Godly" PERSPIRATION! Meaning DOING the WORK (training) creates success, or what you call a miracle. Honest work is a Godly endeavour.(virtue)

[@davidhynd4435]

As with the 737 Max, Boeing immediately looked to lay blame on human error. The rotating "C" locking tabs were shown to be so soft that they would actually bend out of shape under the force of the locking/unlocking motor. Some of the passengers were quoted as saying that they could hear the locking motor trying to work prior to the loss of the cargo door. From memory, I think Lee Campbell was their only son, which makes it especially tragic. Good on the Campbells for pursuing the cargo door issue as they did, otherwise, with Boeing refusing to recognise the design fault, there may have been an even greater loss of life with the next door failure.

[@dexio85]

Well, if it's Boeing I'm not going ;)

[@hylkewesterhuis9667]

I wonder if the Campbells, or s'one other, wrote a book about this. :_[ hYlkeW

[@grahamstevenson1740]

IIRC, the locking tabs were originally made of aluminium and so soft that normal operation alone could distort them out of shape.

[@davidhynd4435]

@@grahamstevenson1740 Yes, I think that's correct. I seem to remember that in the Air Crash Investigations episode that there was footage of Mr. Campbell demonstrating how soft they were. The truth is that a plug door is simply the safest option, but that eats into precious cargo space. More precious than human lives, apparently.

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

Boeing are pretty much the enemy of the human race at this point

[@elsen0va]

My aunt was a stewardess on this flight, working the back of the plane. It's genuinely a miracle that the pilots were able to bring the plane down the way they did so calmly and meticulously, she's haunted by it to this day.

[@rickbrenner6079]

Did that flight cause your Aunt to quit her job? Or did she still work as a stewardess after this incident? I wouldn’t blame her if she quit. A flight like that is so traumatic, even if one wasn’t physically injured. Just curious. Thanks:)

[@elsen0va]

@@rickbrenner6079 She quit immediately after. Out of respect for her, I won't get too into details about it, but I'd be shaken up too.

[@happysunshine1988]

I guess, during the rest of the flight she was praying, begging dear God to save her and other people. And promising him, that if he saves her life, she would quit straight away ❤🙏✨️

[@publicmail2]

The Campbells story in itself was amazing. His father said they were relieved his son went into the engine because the other passengers had a 3-4 min fall to the ocean.

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

Grim. But you are right. Anticipating your death for 5 minutes is beyond cruel.

[@enigmalex3649]

@@AnotherPointOfView944 I think they would be unconscious from decompression

[@publicmail2]

​@@enigmalex3649 The time for unconsciousness at that altitude is about 30 secs. and you would be falling at about 15k /min. you would've fell to a lower altitude that would maintain consciousness below 20k.

[@OwlRTA]

I think they never confirmed that the human remains in engine was their son. They merely hoped it was.

[@maevephipson2803]

@@OwlRTA.. Probably compared DNA of parents to body parts. So I would say they received confirmation it was their son 😐

[@SuperLake16]

The communication in the cockpit was excellent!

[@hamletksquid2702]

I wonder how many all-Irish crews United has.

[@Edward1312]

It wasnt great though between the cockpit and cabin crew.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Yes I noticed that too

[@juliemanarin4127]

@@Edward1312 yes you'd think one of the flight attendants would have informed them as to the giant hole and the loss of several passengers.

[@tyrotrainer765]

Agreed. FO Slader was truly outstanding, but all 3 cockpit crew did an amazing job. I'm surprised the forward flight attendants didn't run upstairs to brief the pilots and eng.

[@vermine18]

My god man I cannot imagine how terrifying it must be to suddenly be ripped out of the plane into the pitch black night falling from that height into the ocean... Rest in peace to the ones who passed :\

[@llovebleach6530]

I remember when this happened....some of the passengers were sucked into engine 3, hence why it stopped working. I recall how it terrified me and the time.

[@oberzen208]

Falling toward your death and having no idea when it is actually going to happen... maybe a few seconds? A few minutes? Those poor souls must have been in absolute agony.

[@tek87]

The one small mercy is that they likely die on impact with the ocean and didn't drown while strapped to a seat.

[@rubbishbin2936]

⁠@@tek87They probably died in the air before they hit the ocean or at least passed out before it. It’s both terrifying and sad but at least they wouldn’t be conscious the whole time it happened.

[@Swoost]

That poem...its like some weird dreamlike premonition of what was going to happen to him with every line

[@tek87]

Can't help but wonder if we all get something like that before we go.

[@PsalmCourier]

@@tek87 Right? Whos one to say its not a possibility. Every line of that poem was eerily wayy too familiar with the specifics of this event.. And you would think if its the case, dead men tell no tails most would probably wake up and say "hmm that was a weird dream" and go on about the day, even forgetting it. Let alone writing it down and others actually finding it.

[@rex8255]

I recall in times past Pilots were getting pissed off at the NTSB (and it would be around the time frame of this incident) because it seemed the default setting was "Human error until proven otherwise". It occurred to me that this makes life easy for all involved. Smear the good name of a couple pilots (or ground crew in this case), and call it a day. No expensive aircraft fixes, etc. It seems (and recent stories about Boeing seem to confirm) that the emphasis on safety seems to lessen the closer one gets to a Board of Directors.

[@amazer747]

"Nothing comes before safety!"... except money

[@dennischallinor8497]

After WWII until the late '70s my father was a Shop Foreman in the Electrical Hanger of Canadian Pacific Airline (repairs), Lincoln Park, Calgary, AB. Those were before the days of CVR and FDR and he would read of a crash where the flight crew didn't survive to testify. He would read of these crashes where the airline would claim "pilot error" when plainly he could see it was caused by bad maintenance and the airline was trying to duck their legal liability. During WWII he trained pilots in Dafoe SK and then sent them to be slaughtered over the North Sea and the English Channel so it galled him no end when they went for the low-hanging fruit instead of owning up to sloppy maintenance!!! 🧐😤👨‍✈👩‍✈

[@mr.blackhawk142]

In most cases, the closer to the top, the more CORRUPT it gets!

[@omarb7164]

Cut the crap, that Boeing whistleblower died mysteriously due to human error. No foul play involved no siree bob

[@patriciaramsey5294]

You presented this very well. Much better than Mayday and other channels. You made it clear that the plane was very near impossible to land safely. Thank you for your hard work, your narration and attention to detail

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@danytoob]

Lee's poem was more than just eerie. I can't begin to imagine what the parents carried with themselves. Peace to the family.

[@Jus2Wise34]

Those pilots deserve a huge award for their handling. Lot of pilots wouldn't have been able to handle it 👏👏

[@Theaterfreak]

They were! They were awarded the US Secretary of Transport’s Award for Heroism.

[@hack1n8r]

The poem at the end punctuated the graveness of those forever lost. Boeing was 100% at fault. This should never happen, but, it does. Why? The bottom line. Thank God for champions, in this case, the boy's parents, who press through until the truth is made undeniably evident. It's not that the engineer was smarter than the whole of Boeing and the NTSB (at the very least, Boeing knew the real cause), but it's that the parents had nothing more to lose.

[@animula6908]

Sorry if I don’t take a blameful member of the general public’s word for it. I’ve dealt with too many Karens in my life already.

[@reneehey123]

Pilots had nerves of steel and calmness in such a scary situation. True heroes!!🙏🏻

[@lprophit]

i cant believe they made it back, and that poem at the end gave me chills. insane though the other accident i know about where part of the plane blew out was that Hawaiian islands flight where the roof was ripped off

[@pixelate9980]

The Aloha Airlines one ?

[@lprophit]

I don’t know the name but that what a lot of ppl concluded happened was asmall hole opened up in the roof Right above one of the senior flight attendant's near retirement age and as she got sucked up with the force of her body ripped the rest of the area in the roof off.

[@pixelate9980]

@Grumpy Ol' Bastard Ya It was definitely Aloha. It was actually my first air accident investigation in which I heard of people getting sucked out of the airplane. It was horrifying for me.

[@jodyschweiner6356]

My sister-in-laws Boss Was on the aloha plane… He was just one seat away from the seats that flew out. He has a hand that was shredded by Shrapnel and it only has a small amount of movement. He was well compensated by the airline.

[@DodaGarcia]

It's just mind-boggling to me how calm and collected the pilots were.

[@Vanosphere]

You do realise the voices were the guy that made the video don't you.. please tell me you know this 🙄

[@TechnoESP]

@@Vanosphere Not all of them

[@keithprice1950]

​@@Vanospheresome of the recordings were the original audio.

[@MadelineParker-s8h]

The communication in the cockpit was excellent!. How calm and collected the pilots were was admirable..

[@JerseyLynne]

This had me on the edge of my chair. I have accumulated 1000 flight hours. (On KZbin flight videos), so I knew exactly what they were up against. I wondered why I haven't heard about this incident. Then, as soon as you mentioned the parents in New Zealand it came into focus and I knew of the cargo door issue. So I have heard this story, but never, ever like this! Bravo! I love the fact that after so many hours of being a passenger, I know how it is done! I thought the pilots watched the weather on the news before leaving home and then got on the plane as soon as they arrived. Seriously!

[@warriorprincessharmony]

😂😂😂 You have accumulated 1000 flight hours You're an experienced pilot. These videos help in gaining experience. I'm at less than 100hours

[@JerseyLynne]

@@warriorprincessharmony Haha! I have learned so much on KZbin, how to cut out a paper snowflake, how to make a Mobius strip and how to pour a Guinness from tap, bottle or can!

[@Mitchellms123]

This FO did a great job assisting with calls and deciding to only use number 2 thrust reverser. Great flying overall by this crew

[@htos1av]

When I started out in tech, I worked for GE in the 80's, they were VERY tight and careful about the avionics, especially with the new digital gear. I have degrees in a couple of electrical disciplines, and I couldn't just "walk in". Mr. and Mrs. Campbell are an inspiration, too! Mr. Campbell is one of us!

[@alexlents4689]

Hats off to both the crew and the Campbells! The crew for their skill during the disaster, and the Campbells for being actual vigilante investigators! Absolute legends!

[@bar10ml44]

Absolutely brilliant production. This equates to the British Airways 747 that lost all four engines over Indonesia? Due to a volcanic eruption. The passengers were in silence as their jet glided without engines. The captain over the intercom said something like We Are Having A slight Problem On The Flight Deck, but We Are Doing Our Best To Sort It Out. Once low enough the Volcanic ash clogging the engines dissolved and all 4 engines were re started. The Qantas A380 that had a disastrous engine failure shortly after take off from Singapore. There were four highly experienced pilots on board as well as a flight examiner who was assessing the captain. Superb airmanship saved hundreds of lives. We must not forget Captain Sully on the Hudson. What burns me about this incident is how authorities were instantly blaming the ground crew cargo engineers. The guys who do the hard work. If it wasn’t for the deep investigation that the parents of their lost son undertook this corporate failure would have never been uncovered and these vile executives and FAA officials would walk away with their massive salaries and bonuses.

[@juliemanarin4127]

I think the hard work in this case was on the flight deck

[@helenmcloughlin9065]

May god rest the souls of the 9 passengers who died.i send all my love and condolences to their families and friends.all planes should be maintained properly.

[@bradleye660]

Amen. 🕊️

[@revokdaryl1]

This was a great reenactment. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Great work and kudos to those heroic pilots that got the plane on the ground safely. Sad to hear of the passengers that passed away.

[@philmorris8862]

These are the kind of men you want flying any airplane you are flying in. 🌵🌵🌵

[@777dexx]

As a former Delta worker , great job to all, and flight crew getting everyone of in 45 sec. Amazed how it all worked out, RIP to the 9 that did not make it...

[@cassandratq9301]

That 45 sec is AMAZING!

[@helencb9940]

Great video. This is such a sad story, I have seen the air crash investigation and seen Lee Campbell's parents, but I had never heard about the poem he had written. You did a great job telling us the story, very informative and easy to understand and follow.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

[@yoot74]

These pilots were and are simply amazing to keep their cool under horrible circumstances. That's an amazing feat in itself. I feel bad for the people that parished but I am also thankful for the lives these heroes had saved.

[@GurpreetSinghmadsfan]

This episode gave me goosebumps, one of the best aircrash inv I've ever seen! Kudos to parents who had the courage to find the answers in adversities!

[@Mugairyuiai]

This was terrifying. You did an amazing job with this video and had me in more fear and suspense than any movie. Unfortunately it was not a movie. Rest in peace to all that lost their lives. I am sure the survivors must have been traumatized for years after this.

[@maesapolu1832]

I have P.T.S.D and soft tissue problems etc so I have to learn to stay away from things that are overwhelming. It has been about 33 years since this flight happened. I hope that one day I will be able to write about my horrible experience in the Business Class main cabin. Thankyou for this video. ALOHA from flight attendant MAE SAPOLU TUI MANU'A BROWN-WINDSOR of HONOLULU and SAMOA

[@iecsao]

@@maesapolu1832 are u okay now?

[@maesapolu1832]

@@iecsao With Jehovah God by my side I endure. Thx for ssking. A-lo-ha

[@cassandratq9301]

She said she has PTSD and soft tissue damage...

[@cassandratq9301]

It happened in 1990?

[@Meng96x]

great Video Greendot! Your videos are improving insanely, thank you for all the effort and time youre putting into these videos. They are really detailed and I love the length of it and music/video transitions. Also, the thumbnail font change looks great! Rip to all the passengers who passed away and to the Hero Pilot David Cronin who managed to save so many lifes.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks Selma! And your work on the thumbnail is much appreciated.

[@chrisframpton7681]

Can we just say that what these pilots accomplished (landing this plane safely) was beyond incredible!

[@marginalized945]

I simply love this channel. Thoroughly researched accounts, beautifully animated recreations, and wonderfully narrated all with actual audio. My mother was a FA for United for 38 years before finally retiring. I always worried about her flying as ironically I have always dreaded airline flights even as a boy travelling as a UM going to visit my Dad in another state. Thank you for this channel, I can't stop watching.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

This all sounds like the cargo door problems experienced on the early DC-10 widebody planes.

[@minchmoorramblers6856]

@hey it's pete What aircraft do you own?

[@minchmoorramblers6856]

@hey it's pete Ah I see!hahaha! So do I.

[@lordhung7013]

ZING!!!

[@lordhung7013]

I’m so wide that when I go to the beach Greenpeace hippies keep trying to push me back in the water!

[@dianericciardistewart2224]

Wow. That was wild. Those pilots and engy. . . What a nightmare! But they were so professional at getting that plane under control and on the ground in one piece!! IMHO, their working together for 20 years was a definite bonus as they could fully trust each other. Kudos to all and RIP to those lost. . . Great one, GDA!! 👍✈️✈️👍

[@heatherlouise814]

omg i have so much respect for pilots. i could not handle that kind of stress.

[@paulaswaim8434]

I love that clear and pleasant Irish accent. This is a first-class aviation channel. Greetings from Montana, USA.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Hello and thanks!

[@tugatomskanimation6370]

Amazing crew and airmanship. They were heroes. EDIT: Also, shame on you, Boeing and NTSB...

[@ncranger78]

Bravo to those pilots!! Absolutely hero’s!!! To keep that plane from crashing with a gaping hole in its side, both engines on one side and then keeping it leveled…👏🏼👏🏼 RIP to those nine souls lost

[@gosborg]

That was a great video - the best I have ever seen on this accident. It was concise yet thorough, and also managed to tell the story from a human perspective. Well done!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thanks for the kind words! 🙏🏼

[@Akula114]

Bt far, this is one of the best videos of any sort I have seen on KZbin. Honestly, I think I got so much more than a story about something technical that went wrong and people died, sure glad it wasn't me. Now... next story... I not only learned more than I already knew about this tragic accident but I also really FELT it. I'm really ever more impressed with the quality of your videos. Keep it up!

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you for the kind words Don! Many more videos on the way :)

[@NAMAHE]

the poem gave me goosebumps. if that really is his poem, it seems clear as day that he had a dream this would happen. craazyy : 0

[@grahamstevenson1740]

Excellent flying by the crew who exhibited good CRM (cockpit/crew resource management) before it was fully understood to be such an important factor in dealing with the totally unexpected. The situation they were dealing with is not unlike that faced by the crew of UA232 that landed at Sioux City. Interesting to note that an attempt was made to blame the ground crew when the true defect lay elsewhere, the same also occurring in the case of the loss of a Turkish DC-10 flying out of Paris, France where a baggage handler actually did jail time.

[@Shay416]

Please drop a link to that video 😮😢

[@grahamstevenson1740]

@@Shay416 There must be loads about United 232. There are a number of TV full length documentaries as well. Type "UA232" into the youtube search. I'll especially recommend the videos by Mentour Pilot for a training captain's perspective.

[@davymckeown4577]

I'm one of those weird people who love poetry, I enjoy trying to the analyse the metaphor often contained therein. Perhaps it's because I'm already aware of the poem's story or maybe I just lack the intellect but it's difficult not to make the obvious connection between the poem and Lee's fate. Like the narrator, I am not a superstitious person but according to relativity, when we fall, no forces act upon us. We are weightless. Perhaps, given the recent Lockerbie atrocity, Lee was imagining the last few moments of those unfortunate passengers and crew. Everything about this flight crew says professionalism, thanks for telling this amazing story.

[@angelinamiamor]

I tremendously admire the cold blood and true calm these pilots are able to keep! Kudos to them all!

[@kikufutaba524]

I have read of this accident before and thought it sad that this problem had not been addressed by Boeing earlier, To hear you tell the story was compelling and very well done. I love your channel thank you so much for all your efforts.

[@sideeffects6570]

I don’t know how these brave pilots keep they’re cool like this. Simply amazing . After watching a handful of these videos , I don’t think I ever wanna have to fly ever , even though I know it’s safer than driving . God forbid anybody has to ever endure this in they’re lifetime .

[@chrisburp]

Was stationed at Hickam AFB at the time, which was adjacent to Honolulu airport. I remember doing my daily runs on the base and seeing the plane sitting there with a falling gaping hole in it. Subsequent runs over days and weeks, I saw the plane get repaired, “United” name painted over and supposedly sold to an airline in South America.

[@Shay416]

Omfg. Damn.

[@animula6908]

It doesn’t bother me. Knowing it survived such a devastating failure once kind of gives me the sense of an inverted curse or something. Of course, I’d want the same crew flying it too though.

[@DANBSTL24]

Wow, kudos to those pilots I can't imagine the stress levels they must have felt but the managed to land. Incredible!

[@GlenDiG1970]

Absolute Heroes. Both pilots and Flight Engineer. Amazing airmanship.

[@indianfan1029]

liked the ATC's response. Very calm and not asking unnecessary questions.

[@st-ex8506]

I had the pleasure and honor to work and fly with Captain Dave Cronin on a project of his; a remarkable gentleman. May he rest In peace!

[@wyomingadventures]

Kevin's parents did a great job finding out what really happened to fly 811. They spent years finding out the real happened to the cargo door. True heroes the pilots and Kevin's parents!

[@carolyngair7051]

Something terrifyingly similar happened to Alaskan Airlines last week! Door plug blew off of Boeing 737 enroute from Portland to Ontario, California.

[@Mateo.GamingYT]

Yea I just realized that is basically what happened in the video but not as serious.

[@weaviejeebies]

These cockpit views are riveting. Even knowing they landed without further loss, I was still gritting my teeth cheering the pilots on, willing it to not get any worse.

[@anitaford4138]

Whoa! I can't watch more than one of these stories at a time! My heart can't take it! This one was astounding! If the audio of the crew was the real thing, I'm flabbergasted at how calm and clear minded these people are! And the poem at the end gave me shivers. Like a premonition coming true. Again, I thank you for your marvelous talents. ❤❤

[@maryflannery6805]

I think much of the audio of the crew was the narrator...cos 'they' had Irish accents! There were a couple where it was plain it was a crew member though, crackling, and American accent. Perhaps Green Dot Aviation didn't have permission to use the whole audio of the CVR

[@OGSinisterPotato]

In mourning because I was addicted to a show called Air Crash Investigation but Disney plus decided to remove it for whatever reason.. Then I found this channel. Covers the exact same material with similar thorough narration. Flawless channel. Your hard work is hugely appreciated! Something tells me this channel will become my new addiction :)

[@TheTripstraps]

I dont understand - these stories make me so sad, but at the same time cant stop watching them

[@pensivelyrebelling]

I’ve seen this story covered quite a few times but not the part about the poem. Just…wow. Lee’s parents were so determined and I’m glad they didn’t give up. It makes me wonder what other instances where NTSB has a blind spot that’s putting passengers at risk.

[@bradleybprentice1497]

Very well done. I followed this accident thoroughly when it occurred. I frequently transited in Hawaii on flights into Sydney from Vancouver. One detail I recall reading was that the #3 engine was buried shortly after the investigation began due to the fact that it was determined some passengers were thrown into that engine after the explosive decompression. A very tragic event that could have so easily been avoided. RIP to those who lost their lives.

[@roamingirl]

Yikes!

[@bethanyestes5126]

Yikes is right.

[@JohnLemieux]

Absolutely incredible job from the pilots and engineer.

[@Maetrx]

what a fascinating episode, extremely wwell put together & narrated massive respect to the pilots, this was so well done, that I was actually getting pretty anxious for them, & an amazing flight crew overall (45s to evacuate a747!, it's actually a shame the captain has to retire, as we need more people like him, thanks again for your video

[@GreenDotAviation]

Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it 🙌

[@CaptainSiCo]

As well as writing that poem, passenger Lee Campbell had also drawn/painted several pictures showing aircraft with an engine on fire. (This was reported and shown in a 1996 UK Channel 4 series Black Box, about aircraft accidents).

[@nicedog1]

Tense, interesting and very moving too. RIP the nine passengers.

[@HelloArt3mis]

Just wanted to say thank you for helping me with my fear of flying and flying anxiety. I know that isn't the purpose of this channel, but learning how planes work and how skilled pilots and crew tend to be really helps me.

[@josephpacelli3691]

Hats off to the crew not panicking and getting the plane down safely

[@davidpawson7393]

In 88 I flew this route as an excited 18 year old and somewhat nervous as my father missed the Air Florida flight that crashed into the Potomac River after hitting cars on the 14th St Bridge just north of Washington National Airport. I could have been on this particular 747.

[@horsewithnoname12345]

Thank you for yet another amazing video. I really enjoy how accurate and well written your videos are. You narrate beautifully. Most videos have text only which can be very hard to follow but your videos stand out because you actually tell the story. It is as factual as possible yet you manage to produce a very interesting and engaging story format. Thank you ❤❤ sorry for my rambling but I think it is important for you to know.

[@jdl9623]

It's always such a relief when watching these videos that initally the plane is in trouble but then seems to get back control until it is then always followed by "but the trouble is just beginning" or "their ordeal is far from over".

[@danniballecter7936]

I've seen a few other videos about this incident before. This is the first that I've seen that mentioned the poem; eerie. Also, wrt the crew....talk about great CRM in the cockpit! It's incredible they were able to land back at Honolulu.

[@ConjureNoonSloth]

What I couldn't believe is the absolute masterclass professionalism the Pilots showed the entire time. Working together and just 100% communicating how to fix the situation without a shred of panic -- incredible. Also at 14:45 F.O Slader's comment to Capt. Cronin and his response was just hilarious given the catastrophe they were in

[@ukgforze]

Credit to the pilots but also the Campbells for their diligence in correcting the slack investigation & preventing further incidents & loss of life, their sons poem was like an eerie premonition, so sad 😥

[@paulbeades6681]

Was rooting for the pilots to land this. What an amazing job!

[@malkymcfly]

Oh my god, I didn’t breath while these amazing men landed that plane! Sounding calm throughout! Just outstanding!

[@Anomaliayt]

I discovered this channel recently and have been binging since. You’ve created a fascination within me regarding aviation. You write and speak so well. Amazing work - this was one of my faves :) RIP to the unfortunate victims, and kudos to the pilots handling it with the upmost professionalism - A breath of fresh air after seeing a number of cases helmed by total incompetence.

[@JimLockwoodShow]

That poem… Holy crap.

[@GreenDotAviation]

I know, how strange...

[@mattsan70]

@@GreenDotAviation But we only have the parents word he wrote it. sounds a bit fishy to me

[@AromaBlue]

It can be retrofitting or even unconscious perception. I don't think these parents who fought so hard to find out the truth for their son would lie about this.

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

I think I saw a video about this flight before (and thus I knew it was the cargo door from the second you mentioned them hearing an explosion, but it was still a super exciting vid to watch!), but I don’t remember it mentioning anything about the struggle to maintain altitude and especially not the fact that they had to dump fuel. Maybe I’m misremembering, but it seems like you did a better job of telling this story and including those fascinating details! Thanks!

[@PJay-wy5fx]

This must be the most nail biting aviation incident video’s I’ve watched so far. Apart from yours, I follow a small selection of exellent similar channels, such as Mini Air Crash Investigation and Disaster Breakdown.

[@Legoformerguy]

Campbell’s poem is simply chilling. It’s just so darn uncanny, the implications are…. Man.

[@redwolfpiping5701]

One unknown passenger had been recovered, or rather parts of one, they found bits of human remains deep inside engine number 3 along with shreds of clothing, that and seat debris caused the failure of engine 3

[@peerpaulin8486]

The 747 is built like a tank. It is amazing what this aircraft can withstand.

[@iCHAWY]

I just read that bits of clothing and body fragments were found in engine 3. That's just so awful. RIP to the victims.

[@nexpro6118]

side note....I just read that an airliners aircraft life span is not determined by flight hours but by its number of, "cycles" everytime the aircraft is pressurized and depressurized. so for the larger aircraft that fly for many hours in a single flight will be able to have a much higher flight time in hours than a smaller regional aircraft that flies multiple times a day which will have multiple pressurizations each day. this type of aircraft can be retired with just 50k to 60k flight hours on it but a high number of cycles while the larger long time flight aircraft will retire with 100k flight hours and stay in service for decades while the regional aircraft retired just after 10 to 15 years of service. very interesting

[@shi01]

That actually depends. There are two limits. A number of cycle limit and a flight hour limit. Depending on the kind of use, you will reach one or the other first. For instance the original limits for the A320 Family of airliners were 48,000 cycles/60,000h.

[@Georgejoseph74]

Tx u for a well briefed video..gives me chills just thinking wat the pilots and passengers went through..can’t imagine how blessed the air hostess who nearly saw death..

[@joelhenderson4450]

Amazing how a hole blown in the fuselage didn’t bring this bird down, but in another case some blocked pitot tubes are enough to sink it. Great channel.

[@GreenDotAviation]

Yea it really shows how vulnerable certain points in the aircraft are!

[@kymilly2549]

air france 447

[@F35Nerd]

In both these cases it really came down to the pilots flying the plane. United 811's pilots were calm and had very good CRM (crew resource management). In AF 447 there was no communication to the point where no pilot knew who was even flying the airplane

[@SondreWiger]

no one is to talk about the poem? The delivery of that, the music, the vibe.... nah that left me in shock. it made the whole thing more real.

[@GreenDotAviation]

It really is eerie

[@SondreWiger]

@@GreenDotAviation how do you do it? You know make videos.. there is such a quality to this!

[@KMF-nj8kr]

The ground crew that was accused of mishandling the door owe alot to the Campbells. I've seen a longer documentary on this one and an interesting bit I'd additional info is how the Campbells got the NTSB reports. From what I remember: They attended a conference on the findings and at the end the NTSB had handouts for people to pick up. Well the NTSB reps left the conference room with not only the handouts available for the attendees but also left boxes with their internal reports. The Campbells took advantage of vague offer to take any papers left at the table to grab the box(es) of the NTSB internal reports. If not for them shrewdly acquiring the documents, the cause may have never been made public.

[@Mrshotshell]

The series "Mayday" has a great hour long documentary with those details.

[@AronBezzina]

@@Mrshotshell I believe this was actually the first episode of air crash investigation / mayday

[@KMF-nj8kr]

@@OwlRTA I didn't know that. Kind of cool they were able to meet.

[@fibboobbif]

That old, analogue 747 an their pilots have saved most of the souls. No need to bash it just because it was not new. I have flown many miles with them in the 70s as passenger, and there was more trouble with new DC10s as i remember.

[@lauras2046]

It’s so amazingly brave of these pilots to remain so calm and in control. They are human after all and I gotta hand it to them. They don’t even have time to say their prayers.

[@parisfrancemission]

The passengers were praying so the pilots could fly. Thank God for this miracle.

[@rooster68able]

You got pilots today who can't fly a perfect airplane, these pilots were creme of the crop, man nice job baby! Rip to those lost

[@paulhaynes8045]

Fantastic flying by the pilots - and what a relief that one of these videos actually ended without a plane crashing...

[@dawn5227]

The handling of that plane under those circumstances is incredible. Yes people lost there lives but the fact the pilots still managed to get that plane down on a runway at an airport is phenomenal and should be praised for their ability that night.