How Did US Soldiers Get Ammo in WWII?

[@WorldWarWisdom]

Don’t know the difference between a clip and a magazine? That’s fine! Check out this video I made where I explain the differences. kzbin.infoQwnUPJTRxJg?feature=share

[@davidyoung3833]

M-1 garands don't take clips they take en-blocks

[@WorldWarWisdom]

@@davidyoung3833 That is not true. They take enbloc clips. Even the official US Army manuals for the M1 call them “clips”. That is 100% the official title.

[@SirArx]

Lmao while I was watching I was wondering how many idiots were going to complain about you saying clip, seeing this comment made me laugh

[@Ian-np6zt]

​@@SirArx I was wondering the same

[@NINJAKCDX]

Changing mags... Yes I know the difference What is it again

[@GabrielAugustomisterkakuna]

American logistics in ww2 were simply God Tier

[@dannyzero692]

American logistic is still god tier compared to everyone else today, everyone is struggling to haul a fleet across the oceans for an exercise while the US is hauling Burger King trucks on a transport aircraft.

[@lilwhiteexpresstruck7943]

We still use a very similar 7 pocket bandolier for our modern M4 and M27 ammunition lol

[@NDB-AK]

Imagine only having 48 to 96 rounds of ammunition in a combat zone… Redefines fire discipline compared to today…

[@amh9494]

Tbf Vs bolt action rifles for the most part.

[@lord_vader87]

I'm pretty sure they had more than just one on them though I have a few buddies that were and they told me they only carry about six mags for the rifles and maybe one or two for the pistol

[@NDB-AK]

@@lord_vader87 96 rounds is two bandoliers, hence my comment. 6 mags for modern assault rifles is 30 rounds, 6 mags making it 180 rounds, a lot more to work with. If you are using a sidearm in combat, things have deteriorated to the point you most likely are near the end...

[@johannlangner289]

Go look it up, here in South Africa, in the late 1800's to early 1900's the British army came for the second time, to take our country for the gold and diamonds. Back then, the Boer commandos took a 7mm Mauser and 20 rounds to war. (we fought like we hunt, every shot aimed precisely)

[@NDB-AK]

@@johannlangner289 Sounds like a lot of dead Boer Commandos. It is arguable South Africa wouldn’t have paved roads or running water with British Empire influence…

[@newdefsys]

Yes, the original purpose of the safety pin was to take up the slack of the shoulder strap but a lot of soldiers would simply tie a knot in the strap and use the safety pin to affix the bottom of the bandoleer at the waist, so that the bandoleer would not bounce around when running or jumping.

[@mrniceface]

And it's the same way they do it today, except with 10 round 5.56mm clips

[@brighamruud5090]

What the heck

[@mrniceface]

@@brighamruud5090 Yeah, the rounds come in 10 round stripper clips, 3 in a box, 4 boxes in a bandolier, and I think 6 bandoliers per ammo can. Let me find the video on it. Found it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joHEmZefmKilatk

[@literallydalegribble3875]

Judging how you called them 'Clips' I'm calling BS

[@mrniceface]

@@literallydalegribble3875 nope, not mixing up clips and magazines, genuine clips. Check the video I responded to the other guy with.

[@literallydalegribble3875]

@@mrniceface I know M4/M16 mags can be loaded with a clip. You have a spoon for them aswell, and they came in 10rnd packages. But a bandolier of them?

[@Shinji_2006]

If they run out of ammo they shout "ANYONE GOT A BANDOLIER?!!"

[@TiffanyPlaysOwO]

Why aren't the bandoliers used today but with M4 mags Edit: Ok I've disabled notifications from this time at now yay! :D

[@haroldveenhuis634]

I doodt noooooooo

[@TiffanyPlaysOwO]

@@haroldveenhuis634 Maybe cuz there's new ammo pouches

[@equal15.25]

They exsist just not used much

[@matts3729]

Because molle magazine pouches exist.

[@TiffanyPlaysOwO]

@@equal15.25 Ohh ok.

[@colinblick4903]

When I was in the army back in the 60’s…… on the ranges we were given bandoliers for the 7.62 SLR which we opened an fitted in our magazines 😎

[@Logan_93]

British? SLR is British iirc?

[@palehorseproductions]

I instantly yelled "I have that!" Mines green and it's from early Vietnam before the m4s

[@robertharris6092]

M4s?

[@palehorseproductions]

@@robertharris6092 *m14

[@GeneralKenoobi]

SOMEONE FINALLY USED CLIPS IN THE CORRECT CONTEXT!! HALLELUJAH!!

[@longtabsigo]

The safety pin also allows you to use the bandolier as a field expedient sling The safety pins can also help close large wounds if you take the scene in the Longest Day at face value…

[@scottwatts3879]

Expended bandoliers can also be used as much better toilet paper than the crap that came in MCIs

[@longtabsigo]

@@scottwatts3879 I had an older 2qt canteen. I used an IV tube as a peri-bottle, the flexibility of the 2qt let me apply pressure to help dislodge chunks, then the TP was simply used to blot dry. Those later gave way to regular water bottles with holes poked in the top.

[@scottwatts3879]

@@longtabsigo Great idea.

[@ralphalvarez5465]

You could also use it as a tourniquet...

[@JustAdude291]

@@longtabsigo that's awesome, another nurse and I did something similar when we were cleaning out this really bad wound. We all started laughing because it was some MacGyver shit and worked great hahah

[@noelpando6574]

Wow, someone using the term clip correctly.

[@ssechres]

When I was a kid, I was taught by my big brother that they were interchangeable. Years later, I taught him that the M1 Garand did not use a „stripper“ clip. Tho at the time, I did not know the term em bloc.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

They really were interchangeable for about 80 or 90 years.

[@eliot1970]

Have a cry.

[@ssechres]

@@jacobmccandles1767 You didn’t have one, but your boy did.

[@jamessalwasser1076]

Low tech works you barely have to think about it while fighting

[@bastionn_3053]

hearing this short I'm just thinking of that one kid calling his airsoft sling a bandolier over and over again

[@FishKepr]

I must admit that until I saw this I never knew what that safety pin was for.

[@zenopssmdk]

I heard "clips" and got a small headache of anger but then i remembered its the M1

[@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger]

You’re the type of person that makes me embarrassed for liking guns

[@amh9494]

​@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger and being gay right?

[@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger]

@@amh9494 everyone at the gun range is intimidated by the guy in booty shorts with a nice ass

[@amh9494]

@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger🤣 I prefer the really chunky style of gay in the tiny shorts.

[@Fatman-1945]

​@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger Like guns, but don't call mags clips retard.

[@ssechres]

Tanks for that. I always wanted to know more about them. We’re there other kinds of bandolier? Like for BAR?

[@stevestoll3124]

Yes there were other types, including 1903 springfield/Johnson, 1m carbine, Thompson, m3, BAR,

[@ssechres]

Ever see „The Sands of IWork Jima“?

[@palehorseproductions]

Yes, I have a BAR bandolier, came with my BAR replica

[@ssechres]

And the harness?

[@palehorseproductions]

@Steven Sechrest I have one, their called M36 suspenders. At least the ones I use.

[@danofdybukon6040]

They used to use bandoliers in the military before the second World War as well, but had slots/pouches for singular shots rather than clips. Think you actually see people with muskets wearing them in some cases

[@bryanhtoo9386]

Bro I can’t throw it away, I have to turn it back into CIF 😭

[@Ohnoitsthatguy-620]

5.56 ammo still comes In bandoleers. Tactical Rifleman has a very informative vid about how to utilize them.

[@UrMomGoes2College]

Finally I hear the word "clip" as appropriately applied terminology!

[@ophthalmophobicnpc8002]

Well now I know why the blue perk in cod 4 which gave you additional magazines when you spawned was called "Bandolier". Thx for the info.

[@fallingsuncreations9270]

Today I found a ww2 British 1942 haversack for 7 bucks! Great condition!

[@jethrosab-it7605]

The only diff now is that they are strapped over plates. They are best incorporated with the vest.

[@bitterbaldguy]

The US is a beast when it comes to logistics.

[@lukescastle]

That's pretty convenient

[@zombiesm4sher20]

Finaly someone that uses thw term clip or clips properly

[@jacobmccandles1767]

There was a time when it was so commonly used that it was an acceptable usage. Just like pencil "lead" that's made of graphite, or when my phone "rings" even though there isn't a bell in it anymore.

[@br00klyngreek13]

If someone says "it's called a magazine".....I'm going to smack them

[@jacobmccandles1767]

Your hands are gonna get sore. I even had one try to tell me "clips" was *never* in popular usage for box mags. Hell there's tons of things we don't call by their real names, every single day.

[@juhokuusisto9339]

Uh, excuse me, but it's called a magazine.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

@@juhokuusisto9339 was I supposed to read that in a California girl voice?

[@juhokuusisto9339]

@@jacobmccandles1767 You can read it any way you like it.

[@jacobmccandles1767]

@@juhokuusisto9339 I didn't mean it as an insult. I thought that's how you meant it, for humor's sake.

[@johnwilliamson2276]

We had the same thing in Vietnam for the M-16 mags. They had 20 rounds not 30. We wanted 30. But thinking about it in hindsight carrying 6-30 round mags plus all our gear would really be a load in that heat.

[@luciferrutherford4446]

We still use these today to issue stripper clips full of 5.56x45 ammunition to Marines, I've particularly seen it a lot on ranges. Not sure how it works for other branches though I'm sure It'd probably be similar

[@benwagner6915]

These are still used in the Marine Corps when we get ammo but it’s on stripper clips instead

[@krunk28]

All branches get it this way.

[@benwagner6915]

@@krunk28 that’s right I should have known that because I’m in every branch.

[@krunk28]

@@benwagner6915 that's not why you should have known. You should've known because the military is too cheap and lazy to develop a different style of ammo can for the different branches.

[@mylittlebrotherca9691]

We have SO much aging ammunition we try to shoot/expend the older LOTs first. Clips,magazines, belted,stripper clips,speed loaders. It is tiring when people show how stupid they are on the INTERNET. I could pull my britches down,show my ass, take an "assy" photo & call it a "MOON CLIP".😅Nobody would get it. If you don't know what a clip "sounds" like ejecting from a Garand,or know what.45 thumb,Garand thumb is...don't post about firearms. Headspace & timing, go-no go gauge.

[@sqike001ton]

I wouldn't say convenient I would say cheap and it works from the M14 and M16 in mags is always better than on clips in WW2 it was good maybe the best way to issue m1 clips

[@chaosXP3RT]

It was convenient compared to what most other armies had by comparison

[@EpicEvilMonster12]

This stuff is honestly really cool my great grandfather fought in Europe in WW2 my grandfather my father myself and my son are all named after the man who saved my great grandfather's life and who was later killed in the war. I hope that my son upholds the legacy so that man's name may be remembered for many years to come he's literally the reason we exist today and he deserves to be remembered.

[@josephstorm2819]

The first time I’ve heard some use clip right. Morons are always using “clip” instead of mag

[@LongBinh70]

M16 bandoliers were issued to us in Vietnam.

[@mtheriotx]

I love that you use clips properly.

[@JT-bm8tq]

For those wondering, they still are used for m4s in the army

[@jimbarrett5930]

That’s why one of Bill Mauldin’s WW2 cartoons with Willy & Joe featured a British soldier, saying You blokes, leave an awfully messy battlefield

[@TrippinBusa]

Fun fact they still give these out occasionally. There's a speed loading adapter for the mags.

[@chipanderson2135]

Disgarded bandolier pouches are useful for putting your field washkit in so it fits neatly in your webbing. This is because the material the British ones are made out of is waterproof. I still have mine somewhere.

[@rogersheddy6414]

I used to have one of those. I understand that they were folded into ammo boxes so that they could be dropped off and when the boxes were opened soldiers could reach and grab the strap and pull the bandoliers out.

[@Lotek117]

Damn, that's an amazing idea! What an awesome piece of kit, I bet it saved many lives by giving troops real quick resupplies.

[@BloodyKnives66]

Ammo for the military (5.56) is packaged with bandoliers still. 10rd clips and like 5 clips per pouch or more can't remember exactly . They're more of a jungle green color instead of olive green though. Also comes with a reloading metal piece that you can use with magazines, they work well with Magpul mags also the metal peice goes on the mag and you push the clip in and push the ammo off the clip into the mag

[@scettybagle5552]

They use to just cut that cloth strip and tie to desired length. Held better than safety pin

[@JamesScrote]

Waiting for someone to say, "they're not called clips, they're called magazines" lol

[@gunterdapenguin5896]

I love how simple and utilitarian stuff was back then

[@Voltaire8559]

If they had used this for the Henri Martini ammo at Isandulwana, the British might have a chance at holding off the Zulu army.

[@kksmith244]

"I have blanks in here" *angry Baldwin noises* 🤣

[@The_DB9223]

This guy with a beard was something I didn’t know I needed

[@kevinsullivan3448]

The Army still used that style of bandolier when I was in the Army in the mid to late 80s. However, the ammo was on stripper clips in boxes so you had to load your magazines by hand from the extra ammo in your bandolier.

[@mephistopheles-ud2td]

Bandoliers are still used today. You have 4 or 5 boxes of 30 rounds of 5.56 in 10 round stripper clips and a speed loader to ease in loading magazines. Easily the best thing in the Military.

[@waynekester7555]

Ammo is still shipped the same way and the rounds are still on clips that you remove to put in a magazine

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

Ok, putting a fully loaded up bandolier into the ammo crates is genius. I hope that dude who thought of it for a service commendation at least.

[@flyingdutchman7585]

These are used today and have stripper clips that are fed into magazines. The interesting thing most people don't know is that there is a thread running along the bottom of the stripper clip ones that makes it the right size for the stripper clips. But if you remove the threads, it becomes long enough so that a 30 rd mag will fit into each pouch allowing you to carry already loaded mags in it. And now you know.

[@FlipKicker]

Did anyone else instinctively dislike the video when he said clip just to realize that the garand actually takes one?

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

Being a US soldier in World War 2 must be a life of convenience at the time

[@bCKization]

M249 has these as well as disposable boxes i always keep them they make good containers/holsters

[@samblackwolf7926]

Those where also a thing with 20rd mags during the Vietnam War.

[@charlescraft5582]

Normally I’d be pissed hearing people talk about “clips” but because it’s the Garand I say good on ya 👍

[@thespartanamongus1121]

They're still used to this day. During MCT when I was on a working party at the range, my job along with 5 other Marines was to load 30rnd magazines with 5.56 bullets, and the ammo cans all came in pairs in those wooden crates, and upon opening the ammo can there was about 6 to 8 bandoliers, each holding about 4 to 6 boxes. Each box held 3 10round stripper clips

[@robertharris6092]

Throw it away? That thing could be used to hold so much shit.

[@vajazzlerthis]

Proud of you for getting the clip and mag thing right

[@PSDuck216]

In general, those bandoliers hurt the rifleman’s shoulder. The hanging strap was made of thin material and not wide enough to be that useful. However, if you needed extra ammo, you’d put up with anything that was a lifesaver. I own most of a cousin’s web gear and canteen from Okinawa. As a kid, I was very interested in the GI/Marine experiences. Later in life, I met AAF, Marine Air (an uncle, and other guys), and Navy personal. I loved hearing their stories. Dad never told many. He was at Pearl, Tarawa, and collected seven battle stars. Outstanding reports. Keep it up! Cheers!

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

Yeah, modern day bandoliers have a bit of a wider strap now. Military 5.56 still gets shipped in bandoliers, but on stripper clips to pack magazines with. If you pull out a string, the pockets open up so they can hold up to 4 30 round magazines.

[@Absaalookemensch]

Additionally, a runner could carry enough bandoliers to distribute to several troops.

[@ssechres]

I read a story about a photographic tech who was stationed on Iwo Jima just after it was occupied. They declared it secure and took his carbine away, so he picked up a Garand and cleaned it up. Sure enough there was an attack from remaining Japanese and he needed it.

[@tballstaedt7807]

The bandolier system is still used to this day

[@commodorerook3797]

I was waiting for him to say "clips"! Thank you!

[@zaiah9252]

I'm writing a WW2 story. Thanks for this information

[@benjaminjarrells622]

We still do this, but now they have a little cord that you can rip off and it can hold a magazine. They still come in cardboard packed clips, but they also include a spoon to load your mags.

[@ankerstang1878]

We had them in 1973 in the Danish military

[@crazymoose9875]

What great information u give us!!! many thanks from Lima-Perú...!!

[@jmoto1983]

Love your channel!

[@WorldWarWisdom]

Thank you so much!

[@amirordibi1348]

The beauty of logistics

[@johnjankowski8559]

During World War II, the medics would collect all those safety pins and use the man who did soldiers I don’t know if you knew that or not

[@michaelmiller1777]

always wondered about these in videos and pics of the wars. now i know thank you for the knowledge sir! 🎉

[@dewayneweaver2744]

My Dad carried two or three at a time, and a .45 for a backup. He ran out of ammo once, and only once.

[@filipzimmermann3798]

At my home i have 200 round ammo box for the M1918 Browning. It's original from WW2

[@theyiffystick4663]

I still think bandoliers have a place in fashion with practicality and basic looks

[@benzracer]

😂 they’re still about the same shape and color today, too.

[@Anonym-yr4qn]

48 Rounds isn't really that much, but most People probably didn't even get to fire half of that in Combat anyways.

[@kellycookson2322]

If I used all the clips in the bandolier, I would still keep it, for storing random things that could be useful.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Throw away or perhaps keep it as extra pockets. Just a guess. I recently saw a video about WW2 military recycling. In that case it was mostly about the german military collecting spent artillery shell casings for recycling. I suppose, when feasible, much could be recycled.

[@sammy3308]

Back in the day we had those with the Lbe and Alice pack system. I remember opening ammo cans with the bandoliers in then

[@Crustymarine]

In the 1970s I stored my cassette tapes in used 5.56 bandoliers.

[@george2113]

The British soldiers were appalled at the amount of stuff that Americans threw away in WW2

[@thenewbeester]

We STILL are 🤔 Also you left what I would call a "Sea Monkey" 🐒 in Afghanistan...A fully furnished army just add Soldiers !! Well I laughed at my own joke 😁

[@chaosXP3RT]

​@@thenewbeester It wasn't that much, but I suppose it would've been enough to "furnish" something as small as the British "Army".

[@thenewbeester]

@@chaosXP3RT Ouch 😵😞😭 Yep we due to successive governmental budget reductions for our armed forces in the UK 🇬🇧 we have what can only be described in one of two ways; 1- A modern lean army. 2- A decimated armed force that has been gutted by every budget for the past 50+ years.... It's crazy what is about to happen in Europe over the next few years, every country in Europe is going to massively increase their percentage of GDP that they spend on their defence budgets...we ALL got so relaxed after the cold war ended that despite the Falklands, Iraq x 2 and Afghanistan in real terms our major increases in defence spending didn't happen...we all (like the majority of the world) looked/look at America 🇺🇸 to be the "world Police" and if I were an American tax payer I would have agreed with (whatever your politics) Donald Trump who quite rightly asked why they were subsidising the military objectives of multiple rather wealthy countries..he had a very good point...and now everybody is playing catch up... Of course the horrendous situation in Ukraine 🇺🇦 is due to the world doing bu99er all the last time Russia invaded....But just remember the British Army is, regardless of its size one of the best / most professional in the world and most country's armed forces are based upon it even down to their specialists e.g. Seals = SAS etc NEVER underestimate the British Armed Forces, be it land, air or sea... we're smaller but still one of the most deadly 🇬🇧.

[@emmaccode]

m1 clip hit me in the eye

[@akplumber4084]

Yeah but it was the Germans that figured out how to carry the ammo cans properly

[@lilwhiteexpresstruck7943]

We still use a very similar 7 pocket bandolier for our modern M4 and M27 ammunition lol. It's very convenient!

[@Zakumei]

Or keep it and use it to hold extra grenades

[@mawilkinson1957]

I have opened several ammo cans of bandoleers, but I have yet to find a safety pin.

[@blackhawk7r221]

It’s black, where the strap meets the muslin cloth.

[@jacob7291]

You can fit a beer can in it

[@arcflash2053]

I think I would rather tie the slack strap in a knot rather than trust a safety pin to hold while I'm trying to march clear across Europe.

[@michaelwong6050]

So that's about 48 M1 rounds on a soldier. Yet in media like Band of Brothers we see soldiers unloading their M1s like they're trying to shoot Hitler and they never seem to run out 😂.

[@canarbn3com]

Cassette tapes fit perfect in them as well...LMAO

[@tonydavis6903]

The bandolier stil exists today. 5.56 ammo still comes in green bandoliers.

[@yo9758]

All the ammo can still come with Bandoleres

[@Nomozacc]

us soldiers really thought they were cowboys lmao 😂

[@ryanspurlock9320]

Love your clips man! I’d like to hear the weights on loaded gear if you could? Like you were talking about the BAR team and their load out, and I was thinking about how heavy my M1A1 mags are lol

[@kerrypitt9789]

Except nowadays they work well for hauling whatever you need for hunting and fishing.

[@arthursmith4200]

the generally accept rule of firefights is he who fires firstest, mostest and fastest will probably win the firefight. I

[@Dev_Six]

A simple, yet genius design that would work even in the modern days, as the 5.56mm AR-platform's magazines can use clips to load them.