How Disney Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Franchise

[@DanGamingFan2406]

It's interesting to see how how hesitant Walt was to make sequels, or even use the same character twice. He really did care about the integrity of his movies. If only the company had the same mentality nowadays.I'm not saying sequels and remakes are always bad, but a little more reverence and restraint would be nice.

[@sesamefan4049]

Before "Fun and Fancy Free", "Bongo" was at one point considered to be a follow-up to "Dumbo", using the same circus settings and the supporting cast, notably the Gossiping Elephants.

[@MCMIVC]

That "Atta boy, Dopey! Kill 'er good n' dead!" Was so unexpected, it had me laughing quite a bit.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I feel like there is some self-loathing going on at the company, particularly concerning musicals. Several of the films steer away from musicals as if it makes them superior: the staff for "Atlantis" had shirts that read "Less songs, more explosions," and the writer for "Raya and the Last Dragon" stated that they decided early on that it wasn't gonna be a musical because it'd make the film less serious (they obviously didn't see the darker Disney musicals of the 90s, and the film ended having a lot of humor anyway).

[@crazyfire9470]

Musical numbers slow the pace down and are unnecessary IMO.

[@GoGoDraws]

@@crazyfire9470 When they're done badly, yes. The songs ARE the plot. The songs in a musical help move the plot forward and give the audience valuable information. When a song is put in just to be a song, it really hurts the movie's overall pacing. When a song is perfectly placed and gives us insight into the characters and the world, then it only works in the movie's favor.

[@natsmith303]

I always wondered why Figaro was with Minnie on House of Mouse! This makes more sense knowing it was a throwback almost as old as Pinocchio itself.

[@speedracer2008]

It’s unfortunate that the lackluster reception of Fantasia (1940) meant that Disney couldn’t add more to the film like he wanted to. If only things had been different.

[@ColinLooksBack]

I feel like he took the failure of Fantasia really hard. This was his attempt to showcase that animation is ART, not just family entertainment. The fact that Dumbo brought him so much financial success must have seemed like a hollow victory, given that it came between Fantasia and Bambi, both of which were lavishly detailed, but didn't make a great profit.

[@speedracer2008]

@@ColinLooksBack Yeah. Disney suffered financially in the 1940s, due to the war, the box office failure of 4 of his Golden Age films, and the animator’s strike.

[@BillCipher200]

they initially planned on making a sequel to Pinocchio. while the plot of the sequel was never revealed to the public, it would've taken place some time after Pinocchio became a real boy. he would go on an adventure where he would wonder why life can be so unfair sometimes.

[@michaelharrington4503]

I like to think that Minnie never actually owned Figaro, but that she just cat-sits for Geppetto.

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

4:46 I love how the main gimmick/gag of "The Wise Little Hen" (where all the characters' voices mimic animal sounds) became the first major defining character trait for Donald. Who knew such a simple detail would become so iconic? Also, what's your favorite Disney sequel Colin? I'm rather partial to Aladdin 4: Jafar May Need Glasses, but Aladdin 5: Jafar Takes the Census is pretty good too!

[@sesamefan4049]

According to the Encyclopedia of Disney Animated Characters by John Grant, audiences wanted Dopey to have his own series of cartoons. That honor had gone to Figaro.

[@dashietheytpproductions2521]

This probably one of my favorite videos you did Personally I would have loved to see more Foulfellow and Gideon

[@sesamefan4049]

The cartoon "Figaro and Cleo" took the liberty of reviving the gags from the deleted scene from "Pinocchio" known as "Starving in the Belly of the Whale", such as Figaro using a fishing hook tied to his tail to lure Cleo and Cleo and her bowl coming toward a tied-down Figaro by means of a snoring force.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

I never expected to hear the words, "Attaboy, Dopey! Kill her dead!" in an old Disney cartoon.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

This is not the place to harp on the current state of Disney, there's more than enough vitriol about all that online. But, there is something I think people, especially Disney itself has forgotten, and that is, Disney wasn't always the giant evil empire it was, indeed, you get the sense for most of his career, Disney was always one bad bomb away from total collapse and being bought up by someone else and him being kicked to the curb so he had to keep working on delivering the best product possible instead of costing on nostalgia and CGI and overpriced tickets

[@disneyboy3030]

Granted that last part can work if done right.

[@IdeaBox-dk5vj]

This does put the classics into perspective. Between Donald Duck moving into the Mickey Mouse series and gaining his own cartoons in the process, to The Three Little Pigs and Figaro getting a line of spinoffs each, to Jiminy Cricket, Tinker Bell, and Winnie the Pooh becoming as household names as Mickey and Donald themselves. However, there are more characters that got more out of life. Take for example, Professor Ludwig Von Drake. His first appearance was to show families how color TV worked, which was in tandem to what was going on with the Disney anthology at large. But he became an endearing part of Disney history all his own, eventually getting his own segment in Mickey Mouse Works. In addition, we have characters like Chip and Dale, or Humphrey the Bear, two Donald Duck antagonists who gained their own short series after tangling with the duck enough times. The former even got their own cartoon in 1989. Also, how come you brought up the live-action features, and yet forgot to mention Herbie? If we're talking a non-animated franchise starter, that car should have been the first to come to mind. You mentioned The Rescuers and Oliver and Company, so why not give The Love Bug at least some kudos?

[@92JazzQueen]

I think the brers are being unfairly treated and need a new life in the form of an animated series.

[@disneyboy3030]

Try writing a letter to them about it.

[@GoldenJLR]

Great Video! Just a small correction. José Carioca is pronounced “Joe-se” not “Ho-se”. It’s a Portuguese name, not a Spanish one. That is why Donald calls him Joe in the movie. Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros also had sequel short on an episode of the Walt Disney presents called Two Happy Amigos from 1960. In the short Joe Carioca wants to know the US and Donald take him to different places in a format in a similar format to Saludos Amigos, it even reuses the song Have you been to Bahia from The Three Caballeros. In 1962 there was another episode called Carnaval Time where Donald, José and Ludwig Von Drake explain what is carnaval over Live Action footage, while this one is not a sequel to anything they reanimated the The Three Caballeros dance switching Panchito for Von Drake.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

Having Jiminy Cricket narrate The Wind in the Willows sounds weird to me since he's supposed to be a conscientious character and that short celebrates a decidedly unconscientious one, Toad.

[@disneyboy3030]

To be fair to the live action remkaes and seqeuls as my Dad said most times things aren't as good as the original but that doesn't mean they are always or truly bad.

[@TylerRakstis]

Blame those angry reviewer type people for making this topic now feel toxic and is already causing the fandom to drive apart. Even it's their opinion, they don't realize derogatory kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ3bgYCOrNKrqac kzbin.info/www/bejne/apWQaoWerdxng7M kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXa4paeBYseUd6M Though yes the far left can be guilty of this and want control themselves. Though it's probably since the problem is with everyone, no one likes to be looked down on or treated as stupid.

[@cooperminion825]

The problem is that they're wokeified and the majority of the slapstick charm is taken out

[@TylerRakstis]

@@cooperminion825 Well they feel that charm is what probably has it still get ridiculed as inferior and immature by the general public. Plus I wished everyone get with the program because sometimes some opinions are not to be said when you'll knowingly would invoke some far right maniacs who uses that criticism as a weapon to justify their terrible beliefs. It may be controlleing but you have to sometimes think like them in order to overthrow the opposers. Basically tit for tat.

[@eriksieurin334]

A great runthrough of the subject!

[@ModelsExInferis]

Those early Disney films were a marvel of animation. I remember watching Snow White as a nipper and thinking how good she looked and how well she moved. I don't think we saw movement like that on TV outside of Disney until the 70's with Filmation cartoons. The way the characters of Star Trek The Animated Series, and later Masters of the Universe and Princess of Power, moved was so fluid. But getting characters to do that did start with the animators at Disney. Sorry, not really a comment on sequels, just an observation!

[@Alejandroigarabide]

I miss the DTV sequels. I know none of them are better than the originals, but at least some are worthy sequels. Some of them adapt part of the original mythos absent from the original (like Return to Neverland adapting Tinkerbell's near-death from the novel; or Aladdin and the forty thieves adapting parts of a different Arabian tale), and most of the ones from 2004 onwards have nice polished modern animation. How I miss 2D animation.

[@disneyboy3030]

I did hear that they may be interested in doing it again.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@disneyboy3030 Let's hope they do that.

[@Mal-go5dl]

I myself have a soft spot for Return to Neverland, Tarzan 2, Aladdin KoT, Lion King 1/2, Lion King 2, and Cinderella 3. Have heard some praise for the Bambi and Lady & the Tramp sequels as well but haven't seen them. It helped that they were straight to DVD since you could easily ignore them

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@Mal-go5dl Return to Neverland and King of Thieves are so underrated.

[@Beerning]

I like the Kubrick inspired title

[@therewillbefudd]

Great video! Lots of fun tidbits in there I didn't know, thank you!

[@willcarroll3712]

I always found it interesting that the unused concepts for Snow White Returns, mainly with the dwarves making Snow White a bed was reused many years later for an episode of The 7D.

[@mightyfilm]

I tend to think that, as far as the 90's output is concerned, television spinoffs worked better than the DTV sequels anyway. Indeed, some of them even were originally developed to be shows that just didn't make it. I loved the Aladdin TV series and am constantly disappointed it's somehow not on the streaming service. I just watched the entire Hercules series, and while that series' original sequel (based on the Trojan War, oddly enough the original plot for the movie) would have been one I wanted to see, they did the right thing by making a midquel series about him being a teenager. And of course, let's not forget Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. A brilliant little series that was meant to be the actual cartoon Andy watched that made him want to buy the toys that managed to outclass the eventual Lightyear movie in every way possible. I still love Sox, though. Meanwhile, Disney's Pixar branch has finally done right by follow ups by making a series of shorts based on some of their movies instead of full blown sequels. I'm digging the Disney + shorts/series even if they're a little simplistic. You could probably never make a decent follow up to Up, but a series of shorts about Dug? Perfect.

[@disneyboy3030]

Quick someone write a letter to them about it.

[@ColinLooksBack]

The Hercules and Aladdin series are easily some of Disney's best. I agree that Buzz Lightyear made a better series than movie, as well. I haven't delved too deeply into the Tangled show yet, but I've heard very good things.

[@disneyboy3030]

@@ColinLooksBack did you watch the link I sent about Dreamfinders. Something may have been filmed after all.

[@mightyfilm]

@@ColinLooksBack Disney has a pretty good track record with shows based on movies or characters from movies in a different context (Talespin, Timon and Pumbaa, the Raw Toonage Sebastian the Crab shorts). They never feel like cashgrabs because they have a lot of talent behind them, usually with showrunners they have a relationship with. Of course, I find a lot of other studios' cartoons based on movies quite good and some cases actually better sequels than their big budget movie sequels (Ghostbusters and Men in Black especially).

[@fattuscattus2200]

I’m not surprised that Disney wanted to do a series of Brer Rabbit cartoons. Controversial though the film may be, the animated characters are admittedly very entertaining, and this could’ve lead to some great wacky antics. But alas, twasn’t meant to be, and almost certainly twill never be.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

From what I recall, the offensive parts of the movie were all in the live action parts. It's a pity there can't be a live-action-free edit.

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

​@@theadaptationstationmaster Yep, most of the controversial stuff about SotS comes from the live-action parts. If SotS was just an animated anthology or a series of shorts with Remus as the only live action character, it probably wouldn't be NEARLY as controversial.

[@disneyboy3030]

@@sirhenrymorgan1187 there is one part though that is troubling..... The Tar Baby.

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

@@disneyboy3030 In Disney and Harris’ defense, that was part of the original black folktales. Tar Baby didn’t become a slur until after Harris published the stories he’d collected. And I sincerely doubt the original black storytellers were being racist towards themselves when using the term.

[@disneyboy3030]

@@sirhenrymorgan1187 I wonder how did publishing those books make it a racist slur.

[@mevb]

Correction: The doup scene in Snow White was fully animated but not inked and painted. The bed building sequence on the other hand was just 75 % finished.

[@madisonrichardson2277]

A new video! so much faster than i expected this is great!! :)

[@maxordman4100]

You continue to amaze me with your incredible videos. There’s a lot of amazing hidden secrets in this video. Sequels are indeed a tough topic for some people. I like a lot of the direct to dvd movies myself and I feel that they are under appreciated. I like how you kept an open mind while examining the different stories. Very good job overall. I always like your Disney related content.? I strongly prefer sequels to remakes!

[@maddiekoester7785]

It’s funny, I never really considered The Three Caballeros a sequel to Saludos Amigos, even if it was a direct follow up. The Three Caballeros was always the more popular of the two Latin American war time films, so it’s easy to forget that it has a predecessor.

[@AlfredoPuente8]

Imaging how he woul have reacted to life action remakes.

[@nicholassims9837]

Fun fact Fantasia is the longest Disney Movie at 125 mins while Saldous Amigos is the shortest at 42 mins but in terms of a single story then Ralph Breaks Internet is the longest at 112 mins and the shortest used to be Dumbo at 64 mins before gettign replaced with 2011 Winnie the Pooh at 63 mins

[@Rubberman202]

I feel like Walt Disney's view on sequels kind of reflected the view of Hollywood as a while for a good while; basically, they all thought sequels for distasteful, and so long as movies were still profitable that suited the executives just fine. However, during the 1960's and 1970's when Hollywood was at a point so low they gave an unprecedented amount of creative control to a bunch of fresh-out-of-film-school graduates who proceeded to revolutionize now only how movies were made, but what movies got made. As far as sequels are concerned, though, the distaste for sequels practically vanished when Francis Ford Coppola directed The Godfather Part 2 and it wound up being just as critically acclaimed and successful as the first Godfather (sure the sequel was also based off the book, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will also be successful, and besides, we're talking specifically on Hollywood's view of sequels, not whether or not the sequel in question is based off the source material). Going back to Disney, though, even after Walt passed away, there was still reservations about "embracing franchises", since the company was still concerned about the "prestige" of their brand. When Michael Eisner became CEO of the Walt Disney Company, he was even hesitant about releasing classic Disney movies on home video, since he worried that would harm the prestige of the brand. Of course, that went out the window when Pinocchio, the first Disney movie to receive a home video release, completely sold out on it's initial run. This, along with the direct-to-video "Return of Jafar" (TV show pilot disguised as a) movie would lead to a downward spiral of Disney sequels, to the point where it's almost perplexing that either Eisner or the Walt Disney Company were ever concerned about "prestige" if they're so willing to just put any Disney property through the direct-to-video sequel grinder regardless of quality. Nowadays, in a modern day Hollywood obsessed with brand name recognition and green-lighting movies guaranteed to make a profit, bet it movies based on a popular thing, sequels, or remakes of older movies, it really is no surprise that Disney would follow suit. This is why they're not only so invested in Marvel and Star Wars, but why they also spend so much money on live action remakes of their classic animated movies (or not as classic movies, now that there's a live action Moana on the way). The quality of these live action remakes are... mixed, to say the least, but even though these movies aren't exactly like the direct-to-video sequels, which in general were churned out to make a quick buck, they do have the same "spirit" behind them in that while some of them do have a creative vision behind them, a lot of them seem to either completely miss the point of why the original movies were good or beloved in the first place, or are just keen to simply retell the story verbatim, which is effectively Disney selling you reheated leftovers of your favorite meal only now it doesn't taste as good as the first time. But to their credit, it's working, they are all incredibly profitable, so it only makes sense for them to continue doing it regardless of if the movies are actually any good or not. Really not sure how to end this or what to make of any of this... I guess that brands, franchises, and sequels CAN be good if there's a good motivation for doing so, but doing it for profit doesn't always result in high-quality work. Sometimes it does... but not always.

[@Recessbiru]

Actually the final Three Little Pigs short was produced as part of Silly Symphonies series. I guessing that due popularity of the characters, they got at least once their own title cards.

[@JaredGriffiths2000]

Very interesting video.

[@TomPVideo]

What the current crop of remakes has that the animated sequels didn't is an astronomical budget. These films have had piles of money thrown at them but they lack the creative freedom to build something great with it. "Here's the money, and a committee to go with it"

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

To be fair though, a lot of the originals were also made by committee somewhat. I mean you get ambitious exceptions every now and then, like Fantasia, but a lot of classic Disney movies were commercial art.

[@JD-iu6rv]

I love the title of the video

[@samwill7259]

They saw all the Marvel money they've made And that tends to adjust your priorities, just a tad

[@waterup380]

some movies and shorts of that time got a book a toy film and even a record at one point

[@sesamefan4049]

Correction: "Saludos Amigos" was released in 1943. "Bambi" was released in 1942. As for "The Three Caballeros", it hit theaters in 1944 outside of USA and in North America the following year.

[@GoldenJLR]

No, the video is right. Saludos Amigos released on August 1942, same year and MONTH as Bambi, only two weeks apart. While Saludos Amigos was out worldwide in 1942 it was only released in the US in February 1943

[@sesamefan4049]

@@GoldenJLR Okay. Sorry.

[@gioiacolli3407]

A fantastico video, one of the bestia you made. I miss 2D animation so much

[@disneyboy3030]

I did hear that Disney may be thinking of trying it again with its films.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

​@@disneyboy3030 Yes, but not out of sentimentality, but because photorealistic animation isn't as profitable as it used to be. Spider-Verse pretty much changed the game.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Me too. There's just so much more you can do with 2d.

[@jaggerguth4391]

To quote Goofy: "Who needs friends when you have Power!"

[@A113-p9e]

Would be nice to see characters just make new appearances elsewhere like the old days.

[@_K16]

Hey what happend to your animated Rockafire vids?

[@anthonyruby2668]

Unlike the trial and error the other studios did to their all-star cartoon cast, you get the idea Walt wanted to push narrative that he came with his all-stars right away and not used sequels

[@zombieguy4444]

I remember reading a children's book version of the canceled Snow White sequel

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

Nowadays, adult Disney fans make nostalgic KZbin videos commending direct-to-video sequels they grew up watching, which adult Disney fans despised for being (to their tastes) inferior to the originals and being made for profit. I bet that someday adult Disney fans will make nostalgic KZbin videos about Disney's recent line of remakes that they grew up watching.

[@TylerRakstis]

Then again it doesn't help that there's still a divide between critics and audiences, since even with the reviewer has a valid points, most people don't like to be talked down to and don't like to be lectured on stuff that most people in the general public or casual fans could care less about.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

@@TylerRakstis It's interesting that you find nerdy critics annoying but seem to have liked or not disliked my comment because I actually have a nerdy blog where I review remakes and other adaptations. I actually haven't reviewed that many I actively hate, though I have reviewed many I don't think are particularly good. I wonder if you'd find my blog off-putting in the same way you find the KZbin critics. Your description of how those lecturing critics make some people feel reminds me of how the musical theater fans who do videos about how Les Miserables (2012) is a bad movie (It's a personal favorite of mine) make me feel. Not that I want to bash those musical theater fans. They're very knowledgeable and have the right to express their opinions and yadda yadda yadda.

[@TylerRakstis]

@@theadaptationstationmaster OK, you may have it there, but the issue I have is more due to it gets annoying when that seems to become the status quo/popular opinion in the fandom and is just further alienating me from animation or film because it doesn't help that even if they have a point, it feels condescending or entitled sounding.

[@justinbowers2749]

What would not be amused by the current state of his company, he’d lament how far they had fallen and would not like these remakes, granted most of the remakes were of movies made after he died, but still.

[@jedd.0322]

Lol the title of this video 😂😂😂😂

[@austinreed7343]

Disney wouldn’t do theatrical sequels again until Ralph Breaks The Internet. Too bad that one was on par with the direct to video sequels. Pixar also has plenty of theatrical sequels.

[@Amy_Rice]

Thank goodness Figaro got the popularity he did, other wise my tuxedo cat would not have a name

[@Magicghost23]

They only started doing this when they can realized they could squeeze blood from a Stone

[@danielsvetlichny5721]

I presume you took the subtitle from Dr. Strangelove?

[@gstone8255]

I like the Legend of the Three Caballeros show on Disney Plus.

[@MatthewPrower]

psst next time you do a mascot look back vid, can you do sugar bear? the Wikipedia page on him got all the history wrong

[@aidanhever3369]

How come you didn't mention the Pixar sequels ? The first to come out theatrically was Toy Story 2, and it proved to be superior to the original. However, after Toy Story 3, Pixar suffered the same fate as the Disney classics.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

Different studio. Plus, this is only covering the sequels done/pitched in Walt’s lifetime.

[@TylerRakstis]

At least thankfully this doesn't feel condescending like most other videos(Especially since some turn into huge hypocrites of their own morals, Cough-Cough Channel Awesome and Cinema Sins) because while there was want for quality control, there did still felt like there might've been one of missed potential to expand their set up series. But then again I don't know what to really think because after what happened with Strange World and some of Pixar's recent releases being put on streaming instead of theaters. Since how can we even know it'll appeal to a whole audience and get immediate results, because even with it's praise and if it gets a cult following, if it doesn't make the budget back, it's seen as a waste of time. Just like how Fantasia was at first.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

It sounds like you're someone who is interested in watching KZbin videos about Disney stuff but is tired of the angry tone of many of them the modern ones, which are devoted to complaining about modern Disney while putting past Disney on a pedestal. I would actually recommend you check out this channel (Colin Looks Back)'s series on the history of Disney villains. While Colin does occasionally mention if he dislikes a remake when it comes up, the general tone is pretty chill and neutral.

[@TylerRakstis]

@@theadaptationstationmaster Well I'm already subscribed to him already since I like his videos centered around Disney, Muppets, or anything related to it.

[@krealyesitisbeta5642]

Dr.Strangeglove reference?~

[@Riftrender]

I'll take the 90s/early 2000s sequels over today's garbage.

[@Magicghost23]

Encanto was pretty good though

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

At least it's fun to make fun of some of them (looking at you, Hunchback of Notre Dame 2)

[@tavvyprods1275]

@@Magicghost23 I think he was talking about the Live Action/CGI remakes.

[@tavvyprods1275]

I sure would.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

At least Lion King 2, Little Mermaid 2, Jungle Book 2 and Cinderella 3 did something fresh and creative with the characters and even if the movies themselves were clunky.

[@fizzy69o.0]

That means Disney made a switcharoo recently fr

[@spongebobcoolduke1537]

I don't think disney isn't that bad nowadays because they are doing well in their animated movies, pixar and a lot of marvel, I think calling it an evil empire is a harsh statement. Fantasia 2000, winnie the pooh, the lion king sequels, brother bear 2, cinderella 3 and aladdin and the king of thieves are awesome and I love almost all of the live action remakes. Now that frozen 2 and ralph breaks the internet broke the direct to video sequel curse, I hope Disney can make walt disney animation studios and quality filled versions of sequels of their animated classics like a third fantasia with classical and film and tv show music and a third peter pan with the disney fairies and jake and the neverland pirates cast soon.

[@aguywholikesstuff]

when until you will make a who framed roger rabbit villiains retrospective

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Fanbase is even starting to say nonsense about Dreamworks being better then Disney JUST because Dreamworks made two good movies.

[@Tbone680]

At some point during your Disney villains retrospective you should talk about some of the live action villains

[@nicolasfisher4746]

What about Amos Slade?

[@jaggerguth4391]

So... Donald Duck was a fable character... I thought he was a original Character.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

Well, I'm not sure if there was a duck in the original version of The Little Red Hen.

[@nicolascangele5548]

Pocahontas Mulan Home on Range Dinosaur Song South Lilo & Stitch Beauty Beast Wild Princess Frog Brave Oliver Company Bedknobs Broomsticks Black Cauldron inside Out Frozen Aristocats are okay films

[@stevensampson5823]

What about Dumbo?

[@sesamefan4049]

"Old Yeller" has a sequel in the form of "Savage Sam"

[@Tbone680]

I can’t be the only one that enjoys a lot of the live action remakes

[@TylerRakstis]

Blame how most people push the more negative side due to a lot of us becoming bitter when we grown up in the real world, and having that secret sadist in ourselves to take pleasure on other people's misery by berating down on a movie perceived as bad. Or how the angry reviewer trope kind of tainted the general public's perception on criticism.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

I don't know if I'd say I enjoy a lot of them, but I probably enjoy at least half and even the ones I don't enjoy, I don't consider the worst movies ever, just normally bad. When I was a kid, I would sometimes wonder what my favorite animated movies would look like if they could be done in live action with photorealistic special effects, so I can definitely see the appeal of them.

[@disneyboy3030]

@@theadaptationstationmaster this does show that not all of them are bad. It may not top the originals but they are not all bad.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

@@disneyboy3030 There are a few of them I actually would say are better than the originals or equal to them. I'd rather not say which because it might start an argument. Not that arguing can't be fun and interesting, but I'm not in the mood at the moment.

[@hugocastilla3102]

I can't deny i enjoy some of them

[@bobnonce3357]

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[@phoneguy4637]

today's reallife remakes simply suck (srry). and sequels often fail miserably to catch on onto the original. walt disney definitively knew that.

[@WreckInSilenceRecords]

Personally for me, i hate CG animation so i have a very specific set of disney films i consider masterpieces. Everything from 1937-1959 (starting with snow white and ending with sleeping beauty) and 1989-1999 (starting with little mermaid and ending with tarzan.) Like i said, i hate CG and i never got into the last few hand drawn films from the early 2000's so for me, Disney dies after 1999. I also hated a majority of everything after walt's death (1966-1988) (The Xerox Era) until the renaissance There are a few just ok ones where i still hate the animation but they won me over with their charm: (101 dalmatians, jungke book, aristocrats, winnie the pooh, rescuers, oliver and company) i consider these the "B" line of Disney films.

[@WreckInSilenceRecords]

@@Galvatronover i'm aware

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I'll take even the Xerox era over anything they've made lately. I know some people like Atlantis and Treasure Planet, but that was the death toll of Disney animation for me.

[@WreckInSilenceRecords]

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 i agree with that 1000% absolutely.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

I'm a bit surprised you liked anything after The Little Mermaid since they started using computer animation as a tool roughly around then. (I think they used it a bit before but not so you would notice.)

[@WreckInSilenceRecords]

@@theadaptationstationmaster you're right. But the way it was used in beauty and the beast and tarzan was very tastefully done and actually added to the depth of the 2d instead of sticking out and just straight replacing it.

[@jefelix2010]

Have you thought about talking about the Owl House if it interest you?

[@A113-p9e]

Too bad they don’t got that mentality nowadays.

[@gstone8255]

I actually like most of the live action remakes over Direct-to-video sequels.

[@luciehaberzettlova7240]

When disney villains retrospectent part 23

[@tayloredwards4968]

Next year Disney's not even going to have Mickey mouse because he'll be in the public domain

[@WilliamSchmidNetwork]

Not exactly. Since Mickey shown in the Disney Animation logo, he’s copyrighted so he’s technically not going to public domain for a while or possibly ever.

[@disneyboy3030]

​@@WilliamSchmidNetworkplus they may be making an agreement for an extension. After all it's possible there was similar worry before.

[@WilliamSchmidNetwork]

@@disneyboy3030 once again not exactly. Eventually the government’s going to put its foot down about this. And companies are finding loopholes to hang on to there properties through copyrighting. If you want to learn more check out Film Theory’s video about that scary Winnie the Pooh movie and how it’s a prime example.

[@nicholassims9837]

Hopefully it wont be like Blood and Honey

[@wesmcinerny4524]

I'd rather see Disney go back to doing tons of animated sequels than see them continue their disgusting, unoriginal live-action remake trend.

[@austinreed7343]

They did do some, like Toy Story 4 and Ralph Breaks The Internet.

[@disneyboy3030]

​@@austinreed7343and three more are coming.

[@wesmcinerny4524]

@@austinreed7343 Pixar sequels don't count.

[@austinreed7343]

@@wesmcinerny4524 Ralph Breaks The Internet is not Pixar. Nor is Frozen II.

[@wesmcinerny4524]

@@austinreed7343 I was referring to Toy Story 4.

[@gstone8255]

I prefer live action remakes Direct-to-video sequel

[@WarioWareFan01010]

Hey guys,how do you think Mr.Walt himself would feel about “Woke Disney”?

[@strangelynormal9561]

I don't respect anyone who would ask this

[@austinreed7343]

He’d approve of The Owl House, at least.

[@disneyboy3030]

​@@Superlad945who knows what he would truly think. Especially since be was described as loving everyone no matter what race or gender you were in a documentary call Walt The Man Behind The Myth.

[@fattuscattus2200]

I assume he wouldn’t care. If it reduces backlash he’s happy. Remember that he scrapped Reynard because he feared having a criminal protagonist would lead to controversy, removed an offensive gag from The Three Little Pigs and did not go through with casting Louis Armstrong as King Louie (because casting a black man as an ape who wants to be human would obviously be dodgy) He was far from “woke” but at least was wary of potential backlash from audiences and critics.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@disneyboy3030 But there is also the fact that he is an American patriot to the core(with all the good and bad that implies)