How do I Know When My Saw Blade is Dull? How Much is Sharpening? Get the Most from Your Consumables

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In woodworking deep dive we look at saw blades and how to tell if they’re dull. We talk about how to do a self inspection, common causes of dull saw blades, and the cost of ownership between cheap, mid and high quality blades. I think you’ll be very surprised at some of the info in this video. Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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[@katzmosestools]

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[@gabesmith6475]

If you had to recommend only one CMT blade, which one would you choose?

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

Thanks so much, I found a great Cmt dealer (in Canada it’s tough) I want to support. I am glad I watch your videos

[@Noman3]

Every time I watch a Katz-Moses video I think I would take a class from him because he strikes the role of educator and woodworker perfectly!

[@blacksheep25251]

My first video of him. I do not have a table saw, but (not so skill) saws and a compound miter saw. This is ..just awesome. LOVE learning and yeah, he is amazing!

[@TonySteinbach]

I’d love to see him do a round on the woodcraft class circuit. I’m sure he’d make good money and people would get a lot out of the class

[@MrH20baby]

my grandfather was a cabinet maker for well over 50 years (I have most of his tools). He always said buy the best tool you can afford. you'll end up spending less money in the long run, I Remember this as a boy of 7 being drilled into me.

[@BiggMo]

One additional note - saw misalignment can simulate the affects of a dull blade. The CMT blades are a great value. I always buy blades in pairs, and extreme use blades in threes.... this allows me to keep my saw functional when sending blades off for maintenance, sometimes allowing me time to bundle blades to save on shipping

[@wittworks]

A freaking masterclass. Thank you bro.

[@inspiringbuilds]

Thanks for covering this topic, high quality blades are worth it long term and not letting them get dull is key!

[@danielleblanc8032]

A lot of guys on KZbin teach you how to build a project but JKM is really going to another level to improve your knowledge of our craft! Really awesome stuff!

[@narclem]

I really do enjoy your nerding out on all things woodwork! Clearly significant research goes into your content development and preparation. I appreciate the work you put into this, thank you.

[@danlanch9231]

Great video. As a beginner it’s hard to know whether you’re wasting your money. It can also be hard to justify the expense of the more pricey brands, particularly when it comes to consumables. It’s good to have a reliable source explain that cheap blades are a false economy. I didn’t even know you could send blades to get sharpened when I first started woodworking, which just made the more expensive blades seem extortionate.

[@JWARD3045]

One time I installed a new blade. It was so quiet (relative to the one I was using) I laughed out loud out of delight.

[@skillcollector9800]

Jeweler's loop! Brilliant! Also, just got one of your aprons and I'm loving it :)

[@richragan4810]

Saw blades are such an important part of woodworking and hard to know when they need sharpening at times. Thank you for your insights.

[@donnygrahambuilds]

Man - love these deep dive videos! I upgraded to a CMT blade about 6 months ago after coming across your table saw blade review, and its been a total game changer. Cuts are cleaner, smoother, and overall improving the quality of my work. Keep the solid content coming m'man!

[@Levythynobz]

Love your energy and enthusiasm Jon ! Thanks for the videos

[@serendipityguy]

Great analysis and economy of consumables, Please do continue with the great Deep Dives . . Great Content as always, I feel enriched Jonathan!

[@SpencleyDesignCo]

Fantastic work on this one, Jonathan!

[@Hansenomics]

Thanks for the info, I definitely needed to hear this.

[@HowIDoThingsDIY]

Great info. I'll keep a lookout for these signs!

[@guybowers9094]

Great topic to speak on now I need to do some in depth checking of my blades

[@allanwilliams679]

You are on fire JKM!🔥 Some awesome content coming our way... Thank you from London. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@banjerlegs3051]

Great video. I was getting ready to order a Forrest blade but you have never lead me wrong before so I ordered two blades that you recommended through your link. Thanks again for all you do!

[@douglascodes]

My wife bought me Audel's carpenters and builders guide collection. There was a very detailed chapter all about sawmills and their blades, tensioniong, gullets for moving sawdust etc. Way more fascinating a topic than I ever thought possible. Cool Stuff JKM

[@LykMike]

I absolutely love these type of vids Jonathan thank you

[@purpleyams8738]

Love your videos! I always learn from your videos like a sponge. The detail from your deep dives 😘

[@tree_carcass_mangler]

Great coverage of this topic. Thanks for this kind of content -- in addition to your project videos, no less. Thumbs up!

[@rjrotermund]

I always, always learn stuff from your videos. Great job and thanks.

[@ScottWalshWoodworking]

Awesome video as always! I'm guilty of cheaping out on saw blades once in a while, but no more I say!

[@larrywsayre]

Very informative and useful. Provocative. Looking forward to you next video on saw blades & bits. Keep up the good work! 😎

[@justplanebob105]

Excellent video! I recently replaced my original SawStop blade with a premium blade and found a great local blade smith to sharpen the first one to keep as a backup. Awesome job, incredibly nice folks and a short drive.

[@frosiaburlakova7732]

This collection of cool facts about the blades is amazing and useful!

[@mattpeterson7074]

This is fantastic. Just recently started digging through my dad's old collection of blades. He's got 10 different blades that I had no idea how much he used them or even how to know if they were worth sharpening. Thanks much for the great and informative video. Now to figure out if I have a local sharpening shop.

[@clarkhussey5865]

As always great information. Thank you

[@MrAtfenn]

super helpful topic thanks. looking forward to part two

[@FunoXXX]

I have to say: Awesome! I ove your deep dives! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@chriscalon8913]

This amazing quality information. I'm happy you did the cost breakdown. I'm in Canada, so our numbers are way higher, but the information is still the same. Thanks Jon.

[@EagleNestApiaries]

Very well done! We just purchased the CMT ripping blades from for our small shop based on your recommendation. Their quality is incredible for the price. Thanks for your hard work and research!

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They're phenomenal

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Great video with lots of important, in my opinion, information. I will definitely go back and watch this again, there's just too much to absorb to not go back and watch again. Take care and have a good one :D

[@coolinken]

Very informative video. Thanks!

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Great video Jonathan. I really enjoyed meeting you and am looking forward to the next video.

[@katzmosestools]

I really appreciate everything you did to help the research for this video. I really learned a lot and it was so fun visiting the ship. Cheers

[@1S4Per]

Love the deep dives you do. Sets you apart from others 👍

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excellent video.Lot of info I did not know

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Lovin the deep dives Mozey!

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Loved the information.

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Thank you very much for this information 🙂

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Thank you for another great video!

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As always great video!!

[@robohippy]

From the old American Woodworker, "if you are setting off the smoke alarm, that is a pretty good indicator."

[@731Woodworks]

Awesome work

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Thanks bud!

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@@partsdave8943 it’s slowing down lately. But it has grown quickly

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@@woodworksbygrampies1284 Thanks 👊

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Super helpful, many thanks! 👍

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Great information. Thanks

[@handymadness]

Amazing video!!

[@sebastiendesormeaux1853]

Looking forward to the next video on this.

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Great video thank you

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[@OlDoubleNickelWoodshop]

Oh kitty kat. You always make great videos. 1 fact I didn't hear in this video is the impact the blade makes on the motor. Cheap blade put more stress on the motor = motor burn out. Side note, I want to be you when I grow up.....

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic video, Jonathan! Thanks a lot! 😃 I'm going to keep an eye in mine! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@desertdogs2145]

Thanks for the in-depth look at quality blades. I definitely agree w your philosophy in buy once cry once. I have always applied that to everything. And BTW, it’s a hand lens not a jewelers loop, ask any geologist!

[@jordandominy7295]

I got CMT rip and general purpose blades for my new Laguna Fusion2 table saw earlier this year. Lov’em.

[@mikerinaldi3979]

for the price, Amana Tool blades can't be beat. CMT has good options too. (Theatrical and staging fabrication)

[@2CPropertiesTeams]

Awesome video, thanks. Deep dive into Dado Blades would be great.

[@sailingeric]

Just order a CMT blade for my soon to arrive any day now Sawstop table saw. Thanks for the discount code!

[@MarkWomack11]

Great video

[@MCarberry89]

This was super informative, keep up the good work. Hows the thumb injury?

[@TheTranq]

Good info. I’ve been wanting to try the 3M cubitron sandpaper

[@spacesaverbob]

I discovered that a company maybe an hour away does carbide sharpening, AND they have a guy who makes a weekly run to my city! He'll come right to my door! No shipping. No BS. Anyway, thanks for this. I have only one CMT blade, along with couple "mid range" blades, and have way too many cheap ones. I've never done a cost comparison, and so now I know that I've been....less than clever? Shall we say? I'm going to go with the "buy once, cry once" more often now. Great video.

[@bigk4755]

One thing that I was told by the shop owner where I take my blades for sharpening is that if you run your saw blades until they are totally dull, then they have to grind away more of the carbide to transform them. Net effect is fewer sharpening per blade. Blades that are removed from service sooner, at the first sign of getting dull, and sharpened, will last longer. He also said that blades that are cleaned regularly will run cooler and stay sharp longer.

[@beckermen]

I was having some issues with my hand circular saw. Come to find out it only had a few teeth on a the blade😳 I make a habit of checking my blades now. Thanks for this video. I have some new info to use in my checks. 👍

[@kylegordon00]

Just found the channel. Great stuff here!

[@bobd.]

Thanks for this deep dive on blades. I don't consider my blades consumables because as you said they can be sharpened 8 or more times so for me many years of use. Consumable to me is a year, maybe 18 months. Being on the east coast I use RIDGE Carbide as my sharpening service and also use their blades along with Forrest blades.

[@marshallharrington4727]

absolutely love what you do can watch and rewatch your content for hours. getting one of your aprons for Fathers day. If my business gets going I fell I'll owe some to all the information I've received from you and some others. One question thats been bugging me for months. Are you in anyway related to Jimmy Kimmel? lol

[@renel2196]

I'm too poor to buy cheap tools. I always get burnt every time I try! So yeah i end up crying every time i need to buy something

[@charlieodom9107]

Lmao!!! My wife is pissed off at me for mentioning my next tool purchase: a 270 dollar jigsaw. She thinks a harbor freight POS will do just fine! Now, in her defense, the one I want is a Makita cordless brushless one, but I hate cords, and I'm limited to one single outlet in my work space, so cordless is the best option. Also, I already own Makita stuff, so it is the logical choice to stay with that brand. P.S. I only own Makita because it was given to me from a previous job, so I just stuck with that brand. I have owned Ryobi, Milwaukee, Dewalt, and Makita over the years and they all have certain things I like and don't like, but perform similar in my experience.

[@renel2196]

@@charlieodom9107 when it came down to buying into a cordless system, i debated a long time. It was either makita, DeWalt or Bosch. I never really touched Ryobi since it was in the lower price bracket and didn't want to get burned again. I ended up going with the Bosch mainly because the drill i wanted to get had replaceable chucks. Its such a time saver when you have just the one drill.

[@charlieodom9107]

@@renel2196 I only went with Makita because that is what I had. I didn't buy the original set, but I like it better than the Dewalt I have and it replaced a Milwaukee set I had before. The tools are a bit expensive when compared to brands like Rigid, and I don't think they are any better or worse, so if someone was buying a set, it would be hard to not recommend Rigid, especially with their warranty.

[@boomerangfreak]

@@renel2196 I recently upgraded some Ryobi tools one+ tools to a nice set of Dewalt cordless tools. Damn the difference it makes, in my case (buying T-stack models in Belgium) made each tool on average 2-3 times as expensive as a ryobi equivalent. From my experience I'd say all the dewalt tools are just that slightly better and nicer to use, would I say 3 times as nice to use as ryobi? No but it's something I felt right of the bat. I ended up going with dewalt as I am working in a pro tool shop here and there were already some big Dewalt promotions going on and I got my employee discount on top. Ended up with about 3grand worth of tools and batteries having paid less than 2.

[@jimmiller6915]

Awesome!

[@thedistractedmaker]

I need this for bandsaw blades!

[@Ham68229]

There's a lot in a top quality saw blade. I once used a thin kerf blade in my worm drive skill saw once, never again. Even with a stabilizer installed, that blade wobbled severely. As for brands of blades, I've tried a Forrest blade, still prefer my Freud blades though. I always get a better cut with them, even over the Forrest blade. Great video, looking forward to seeing the sharpening process video. Cheers :)

[@handymadness]

Hi JKM. Great video. I love your channel, own and use one of your stop blocks and try to support the vendors that support you. I have place two orders with Taylor tool works and their customer service has been terrible. When I call no one answers and when they finally return emails and say they’re going to send this to tech support no one ever gets back to me. I had this happen with the blade stabilizers you recommended that I purchased. I will not be using Taylor tool works for any further purchases. Just FYI for you for the vendors that you are endorsing.

[@dpmeyer4867]

thanks

[@pit8557]

Big blade wobble is called "centrifugal force " cool video very useful and informative 👍 👌

[@shanechepren8119]

I kind of want to see you compare a tension vs non tension blade cuts. Might make for a cool slo mo video.

[@pauloosthuizen]

A very complete and informative video. I was surprised by the fly-away comment about Freud & Diablo. Maybe Freudtools can comment, but my understanding is that not all blades in the Freud catalogue are targeting the same user market and therefore not created equal. My guess the same goes for CMT with their four ranges of blades. Again would be interested to hear from CMT. themselves on this yopic

[@boblordylordyhowie]

I saw (yes, a pun) a guy who turned the blade around so it was turning the wrong way, then he took a sharpener and let the blade spin. In seconds he stopped it and turned the blade around and tried it, it cut the wood wonderfully.

[@mhstretch]

I am using a Ridge Carbide TS2000 series blade. I am interested in your honest opinion of it's ranking, and good and bad points.

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[@villepasonen5385]

Hi Jonathan and thanks for educational videos you provide to everyone :) They've been a great help and inspiration. I do have a question regarding table saw blades (not necessarily about sharpening though..) What kind blade would you choose if you're splitting (not cutting) hard wood species, such as oak? I have a table saw with 10" blade and would greatly appreciate any advice on this one. I have the stock 24 teeth blade but I would be willing to invest on better blades, perhaps one for general use (cutting) and one for long splitting. Thanks a lot, stay safe and keep up the awesome work you do :)

[@velcroman98]

Your blade videos are steller, I use them as a reference and to show others. One area I see a lot of mistakes is using a dial indicator to measure runout and squareness to the fence. I'll bet you could make an excellent video on this topic.

[@nicflatterie7772]

WoW, buying new blades is not the only option? Around where I live, it’s impossible to find a shop that does that!

[@kobayashitakoya356]

I wish you'd put on the gat for translation, teacher. Thank you so much for what you're offering us. When am I the best carpenter and the best teacher I watch and learn from

[@alanr745]

Nice work Jonathan! I just ordered a Ridge Carbide blade. CMT will replace my Freud in a few months. Been very disappointed with that blade. Any chance the cost breakdowns would be blogged on your site?

[@asbrand]

Great video. I do think that one other factor to take into account is just how much you use your tablesaw / how many projects you actually make. While I did pick up a couple of those CMT blades, I also have Freud / Diablo ones, and those still work fine for me. Mainly because I only get out to the shop every other weekend, if I am lucky. Full time job and too many other hobbies. :)

[@katzmosestools]

Maybe but with my discount CMT is cheaper than Freud Industrial. Absolutely no brainer for me

[@asbrand]

@@katzmosestools - Oh, I won't disagree there. Thus why I bought a couple CMT blades using your discount. :) But, if you didn't have that discount...might be an even wash. I really do like the CMT blades I got.

[@jonathantrahan3457]

Great video, as always. How would I go about locating a place near me that sharpens saw blades? Thanks for your time. - Jonathan Trahan

[@MajesticDemonLord]

Generally, I find the easiest way to tell when the blade is Dull is when the conversation no longer flows and the blade brings up topics that it's already discussed.

[@leosmit1835]

You missed one variable in your calculations 4 cost of ownership: the sawstop break action. People with a sawstop will most likely have triggered the break before a blade has been resharpened 10 to 15 times. So for sawstop owners, the math is different. But I concur with buy once`s.. so I liked your message and the cost breakdown.

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Ridge Carbide. will even make custom blades with short turn around

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We need a saw blade collab with @SmarterEveryday

[@eatdrinkwineguy]

Awesome thanks! Very interesting. What about tablesaw maintenance?

[@katzmosestools]

Look up a series I did called Tune Up Tuesday. cheers

[@claireckelly]

Great video! I just tried to buy a CMT blade for my Dewalt jobsite tablesaw - but it doesn't look like CMT makes an 8 1/4" blade. Which of the mid-level blades would you recommend?

[@rickcoan9197]

Good presentation. Lost me when it appeared you favor CMT blade. In any case what’s your thoughts on the Sawstop blade?

[@davidbondi]

Great Video Jonathan, Thanks! Your content always educates and your attention to detail and in depth explanations appeal to my inner engineer. I used Diablo for a while, and then after seeing your saw blade video, I bit the bullet and picked up the 3 your recommend. I was shocked, though I shouldn't have been after watching your video, at how much easier and better they cut... and I am using an underpowered Delta 120V table saw. Question for you. I was crosscutting some 4/4 Hard Maple today on my 12" miter saw (yes, a red blade) and it was definitely dragging. I'm sure that it needs cleaning, but.... I'm wondering about just jumping in and getting a new blade for it. Do you have a recommendation for a CMT 12" blade? Is full/thin kerf an issue/consideration for a Miter Saw? My saw is an older Porter-Cable 12" and is not sliding. Thanks in advance.

[@katzmosestools]

Yeah they have a Chromium 12" miter crosscut blade (I use 60t) through the link in the pinned comment. Kicks ass and make sure to use the discount code for another 10% off

[@katzmosestools]

And thank you!

[@shericreates]

Thank you. I inherited a lot of blades. I don’t know whether to keep or dump. Some are a little rusty and some have some kind of rubber on the edges. Is that what they do to protect them after sharpening? I inherited so many tools. Now. To figure out how to use them.

[@boomerangfreak]

I bought a thin kerf 40T CMT orange shield blade to replace the thin kerf 24T construction blade that came with my Dewalt circular saw. Working with almost exclusively plate material aka plywood 24T wasn't good. The only downside I can mention about the CMT blade is that the orange color looks a bit weird in my Dewalt saw but I got used to quick enough :P

[@callindberg2242]

Ridge Carbide also makes high end blades. Im a big fan fan - they’re significantly bette quality than Diablo/Freud