How Do We Reverse The Left's Long March and Take Back Control Of Britain's Institutions?

On this week's episode of #NCFCounterCulture our panel discuss our new publication: "The Long March: How the Left Won the Culture War and What To Do About It." [ our publication may be downloaded free of charge from our website: newcultureforum.org.uk -- Hard copies may be purchased by making a £10 donation also via the website (further details please email: [e-mail]) ]
How does culture shape political power? Many Conservatives now fear that victory at the ballot box is not enough. Despite Boris Johnson’s triumph in the 2019 election, they sense that a larger cultural battle has been lost. Some accuse the left of mounting a secret, slow-motion takeover, inspired by the ideas of the Italian communist Antonio Gramsci - the ‘long march through the institutions’.
The New Culture Forum's new book by Marc Sidwell uncovers the truth: a tangled history in which active subversion runs alongside unintended consequences and missed opportunities. Armed with a clearer understanding of the left’s long march, it also reveals new possibilities for fighting back.
Our Panel:
* Melanie Philips
* Marc Sidwell
* Rafe Heydel-Mankoo
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[@wendyatkinson3198]

Why is no one standing up for Dr David Starkey

[@Happyheretic2308]

@@kroldudziarz8501 since when has "damn" been an expletive?

[@Cumbriahandyman]

We have a conservative PM who appears to be frightened of being a conservative!

[@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459]

John O'Neill we don’t have a conservative PM.

[@ericdelf]

I HOPE he's boxing clever, softly softly catchee monkey.

[@hittitecharioteer]

@@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459 I'm inclined to agree with you. BoJo is a liberal. And appears to have no grandees who can be relied to work the party machine and drive any conservatism. If proof was needed, how on earth did they elect Theresa May…and later back her with a vote of confidence? Do todays Tories actually believe in anything?

[@lydiamalone1859]

Exactly.

[@raymondmajer8748]

John O'Neill, I agree, he is as weak as pee in this regard and I cannot understand why unless he agrees with the situation although I have my doubts he does. He would have massive support from ordinary people I'm sure if he stood up and grasped the nettle. Let's get Brexit out of the way and then see how he performs.

[@majorbloodnok6659]

I work in the cultural sector, in education. For the first time in my long life I voted Tory at the last election. What I have witnessed in the last three weeks has left me frightened and despondent. Why? Because I witnessed the utter spinelessness of the response by the Conservative political establishment. Dominic Raab, who I used to have some respect for, now supports an avowedly Marxist organisation! The old line 'folded like a cheap suit' sprang to mind. Foolishly, with their worst results since 1935, I thought that the left had lost the last election. We now have a Corbyn-esque government. I work in the public sector; soon I have to give a presentation at a public forum to answer questions raised by BLM activists as to why we shouldn't pull down statues and rename streets. One error and I am for a very hard time (at best) - working in fear? yep... but I will stand up, though I do wonder why I should. The Tories do not have ten years, they have four, at best. Suggestions - stop reacting get ahead of this. Grow a spine. Don't tinker around the edges; it is far too late. Bold actions to regain the agenda, getting rid of one civil servant at a time won't do it. So, defund the BBC. Axe Tony Blair's Supreme Court. Get rid of Clause 127. Abolish all hate speech laws. The Arts Council - cut it's budget by 50%. Universities - yes, target the Humanities - financial disincentives to do those subjects. They will scream and shot and stamp their feet. Ignore them and in four years time the Tories might have my vote again.

[@michaellawson6533]

You woke up too late and see what a fool you were . Damage control ?

[@Teasehirt]

@@michaellawson6533 It would appear that much of this woke-erry as gone on without the knowledge of the common person. It is only now as they have pushed their ideology to new extremes that the common person has begun to take note. Common people will not put up with BS and will pivot at the Voting Booths to keep Traditional British Values. If the Conservatives are no longer able to Champion Traditional Values, New Parties are waiting in the wings.

[@Teasehirt]

It would appear that much of this woke-erry as gone on without the knowledge of the common person. It is only now as they have pushed their ideology to new extremes that the common person has begun to take note. Common people will not put up with BS and will pivot at the Voting Booths to keep Traditional British Values. If the Conservatives are no longer able to Champion Traditional Values, New Parties are waiting in the wings

[@ruthirwin8222]

This is shocking ..I'm 63 and it's only recently that I have seen the evidence of this long march to was too busy with life to notice and now i think it's too late and that makes me very sad ..

[@alwayscensored6871]

I'm 60 and only noticed when lockdowned and wondered why. Getting very angry with govs and the Karen's. Things were good and they just want to destroy it. Trump might be the Saviour or the Antichrist. Cannot trust any words now only actions. I'm about 90% for Trump and the patriots.

[@ericdelf]

Too late for a peaceful resolution.

[@ruthirwin8222]

@@ericdelf I hope ur wrong but it all a bit uncertain ...we need some Conservatives in power and with back bone

[@hittitecharioteer]

Ruth. For real? All through NuLabour's occupancy of No.10 we watched them stuff the public sector with its apparatchiks. Those placements were only ever going to backfill with their own and their sympathisers. Of course, a bloated public sector with all its jobs depending on the taxpayer's patronage breeds its own sense of self-importance, and with it, political dependency and allegiances.

[@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo]

@@alwayscensored6871 A 'Karen' is a middle aged woman who wan't to see the manager, she's of any colour and angry, the left have stolen the term and use it to point a finger at any women that won't get on her knees.

[@MrClingclong]

I thought Orwell wrote '1984' as a warning, not a bloody guide book.

[@hannannah1uk]

He was writing about Stalin's Soviet Union.

[@zackpenhaligon9904]

Ha! You could say he is a real fortune teller. 'if you want to imagine the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever'.

[@lepunque]

@@hannannah1uk That was Animal Farm

[@tijuanaforeplay8232]

He was a socialist so you guys might want to reconsider what you know and realize that you what you know is shit.

[@hannannah1uk]

@@tijuanaforeplay8232 Walkaway.

[@zilefn9212]

Melanie is fantastic. She is screaming into the wind, but even so some of us are able to hear.

[@leftofcentrebrexit1546]

In this case screaming very quietly...

[@michaelrollinson7371]

@@leftofcentrebrexit1546 My left ear loved what she had to say.

[@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066]

@Chalk O'holic Sorry but Melanie Philips cares more than just about Israel, she is also very clearly referring to Britain in this discussion. Let's leave Israel for when it is actually the subject being discussed.

[@ZekeMan62]

@Chalk O'holic Is she Chewish? She's got that look. (*KZbin algorithms force me to spell certain words creatively)

[@Rangeleyj]

This is such a good channel! Thank you so much! The "debate" is so stiffled on the BBC and C4/ ITV it is totally, unacceptable, unbearable and frankly prejudice. Thank God for these breaths of fresh air.

[@raymondmajer8748]

We in the UK and Europe can pontificate as much as we like about this issue but whether we like him or loathe him if President Trump fails to win a second term in November it will put a massive spanner in the works of trying to turn our current situation around in my opinion.

[@dannychurch7223]

raymond majer I’d rather our champions had a higher IQ. Surely trump just pursues his own interests.

[@iainyoung6878]

@@dannychurch7223 any idea who then, because every other republican candidate for forty years has gone along with this stuff, pretending to oppose it during election years a la Romney and McCain.

[@rochelle2420]

He has been under DAILY attack since (likely before) winning '16. He is BLAMED for CV response, when he was forced to follow fauxci/gatez dictats OR ELSE. He could not FIRE any of those people (including birx, redfield-cdc) or all hell woulda broken loose. Look at the vilification following closing border to chinese aircraft! Look at the pushback for recommending hydroxychloroquine! CHEAP, 40+ yr history, but no advantage to BIG PHARMA, so fauxci et al HAD to dis it. Recommending a Gilead drug ($$$) of questionable efficacy. Now, mandated masks BY GOVERNORS, fines if you don't wear it, FORCED VAXXINATION or else u won't be allowed to return to work...He's only one man, with a Herculean/Biblical proportion enemy within fighting for their own Venezuela-style hegemony. Epic and tragic. America facing existential threat.

[@NateB]

@@iainyoung6878 Why do you scorn those two? They were willing to stand up to their own party many times.

[@iainyoung6878]

@@NateB no they lied to the voters to get elected then sided with the other party for cheap media glory. McCain on Obamacare which he campaigned endlessly against then voted to keep. Romney had all the same things said about him trump has yet he went along with the conspiracy theory pushers' impeachment just so the people who despise him would tell him how brave he was to 'stand up' his own side. You'll note this only goes one way democrats don't stand up to their guys whether it's their president of a mob the democrats have whipped up nor are they expected to...

[@joolzessam1824]

I remember college in the late 80's students were encouraged to take Social Science Courses with promises of financial help from the European Social Fund. We were told that we would still get help even if our future courses were only very loosely related (so encourage to lie to get grants). This was at a time of continuing high unemployment and financial difficulties. There was pushback to many of the ideas being pushed on us as their claims were not backed with any evidence. I think this is were it started. People who disagreed dropped out and those who blindly agreed moved forward.

[@mushroomhead3054]

I'm glad there's good people out there making sense of things and looking out for our country and it's people. 🇬🇧✌ What a nightmare the left are.

[@liliannamathers3428]

You MUST help too, you know.

[@mark-yj5sg]

Melanie explained the conservatives blindness to the country’s culture ideological transformation so well

[@johnnyforeigner4768]

Get David Starkey back on, as soon as. He'll have nothing to lose, he can now tell it as it is. People will listen to his wise words.

[@MrDanielvass]

This guy is in all the comments, just being a dickhead. Just ignore him.

[@alanthorpe3640]

Melanie Phillips is on fire in this video. She will never appear on Question Time after this. I think the Long March has two threads. The one not mentioned started in Sweden with eugenics and environmentalism. Hitler had contact with them and he was an environmentalist and wanted to get rid of fossil fuel and use hydrogen but he could not get it to work. This came together with the Frankfurt School. MP’s view at the end about not being able to have a discussion are a critical point. I don’t like the division into left and right because nothing is clear cut; it implies one side is right and one is wrong and they will never come together through rational debate. Debates with the intention of finding a resolution to our problems are no longer possible. Parliament is the place for this to happen and all we have is a screaming mob.

[@Crichjo32]

Brilliant panel. This should be the mainstream, but the corrupt system would never allow such discussions to be held.

[@c.smythe8905]

Excellent discussion on how we arrived in the current mess. Good guests, The New Culture Forum always worth watching

[@frazerduncan356]

@Qwfwq66 oopsy daisy. Would you like a link to the Guardian youtube channel? You appear to be lost.

[@hittitecharioteer]

All through NuLabour's occupancy of No.10 we watched them stuff the public sector with its apparatchiks. Those placements were only ever going to backfill with their own and their sympathisers. Of course, a bloated public sector with all its jobs depending on the taxpayer's patronage breeds its own sense of self-importance, and with it, political dependency and allegiances.

[@deniseberesford584]

I left teaching, because you are required to indoctrinate not educate. Students are then taught to regurgitate for exams /tests. I've taught the so called disaffected teenagers, the harder to teach. I've found the majority of these to have the kind of intelligence missing in the majority of students. They are the individuals. They don't respond to being indoctrinated and having to regurgitate. They need challenging and inspiring. Instead they are thrown on the scrap heap, because the indoctrinated teachers don't know how to reach them and large classes and the curriculum don't give good teachers the time to.

[@deniseberesford584]

@Qwfwq66 You aren't permitted to teach. I learnt to teach before teachers were indoctrinated to indoctrinate. I left for that reason and now tutor privately, or those who are called difficult to teach. They aren't. They are just difficult to indoctrinate. Some people who aren't brave enough to use their real names are maybe too easily or already indoctrinated. 🤔

[@AdnamsDrinker]

@Denise Beresford Don’t respond to it Denise - it’s just a troll. It’s posted snarky, non-constructive replies to a lot of comments on this video. Pay it no mind.

[@deniseberesford584]

@@AdnamsDrinker thank you, Dave 🤗. I'm quite a novice at posting. I don't do Twitter etc as they just seem to be vile cesspits, but I'm fed up of seeing others spout nonsense and not being able to reply. I try not to bite too easily. Some trolls are easier to spot than others😁. Lots of sensible people about though. Common sense and sanity is the only way we'll survive 🤞

[@psalm1197]

Qwfwq66 fool

[@speedtimothy]

Melanie Phillips is one of our greatest journalist/author

[@w23968581]

Melanie Phillips as ever nails it!

[@danharte6645]

The solution to reversing the long march starts at home with the family. Parents need to engage with their children and instill a sense of pride and dignity in our Christian culture values and heritage. We also need more educational social media content that supports our history and achievements that is done in a non apologetic way.

[@joansolomon1194]

Trouble is, the left have eviscerated the family. First step, get Mum feeling sorry for herself and get her out of the house, leaving her childrens mind and morals in the care of the worst. Yes, a career is easier than care.

[@danharte6645]

@@joansolomon1194 good point and funny you should say that. As a catholic,.we've been warned that the final battle will be fought against the family

[@stevenjones9639]

What are your Christian Culture values...the 10 commandments? There is no place for any religion in public institutions. Worship privately if you must .

[@danharte6645]

@@stevenjones9639 sorry but you dont get to tell Christians how when or where to worship. If that displeases you then tough

[@wendyatkinson3198]

One thing that needs doing is getting “ common purpose “ out of our institutions

[@kempjmk1]

Is anyone communicating this to the conservative party in order to make these changes

[@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459]

J K I think the Tories are considering setting up a committee to discuss the reduction in the marginal tax rate. They’re on it. Fingers on the pulse...

[@hittitecharioteer]

No 'grandees' who can be relied to work the party machine and drive any conservatism. If proof was needed, how on earth did they elect Theresa May…and later back her with a vote of confidence? The days of Marcus Fox, Norman Tebbitt, Norman Foster, and their like are where?

[@benjamin4894]

You mean Brexit didn't send the message..?

[@zackpenhaligon9904]

One man is communicating this message. His name, is Dominic Cummings. Quietly outing the left from the inside. Like killing the roots to stop the weed.

[@ladyflibblesworth7282]

my husband never understands why I desperately want to turn off anything that contains even a trace of this narrative or this type of propaganda. Even though I was very young, 9/11 opened my eyes as to how bad the situation is with governments and the media. We had news reporters talking about the molten mettle and building 3, the very next day every channel denies the existence of both these things and starts questioning guests with a complete lack of tolerance on both these matters demonizing those who mention them as extremists and instead collectively start aggressively concentrating on completely irrelevant points. Don't think I have ever just agreed with anything stated by the media, to just take everything they say as the truth would completely destroy reality as I know it. I like living in reality and will always keep fighting to stay here.

[@jameshewitt2083]

🙌

[@blackheart5258]

This morning with a heavy heart I watched slugs eat my Courgettes and thought how apt that our society is mirroring what is happening to my Courgettes. Stay safe Stay strong

[@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo]

The slugs no longer hide in every crack and crevice of our institutions they're running them and the likes of the BBC are shouting their propaganda from the roof tops.

[@zackpenhaligon9904]

One good thing about slugs: they're easy to kill! We gotta keep fighting, and the BBC is the first target in the crosshairs. Cummings is dealing blows within Whitehall. We can win this fight.

[@allegoricalfactal1691]

We all saw this beginning, in earnest, the 1970s ( following our questioning of all things in the 1960s, the questioning was usurped). I think that someone/body needs to make videos, for all ages, of truthful ( so alternatives) education - which parents can buy as an extension to school teaching and or in order to homeschool in groups. Those making the videos should be authorities in their subjects ie David Starkey - equalling an alternative curriculum.

[@JamesHartnell]

Ok - so here's my question - I think it's brilliant that eloquent intelligent people are getting together to discuss these issues, are able to intellectually dissect the problem and lay it out - with solutions. How does the average bloke like me, who instinctively feels the same, do anything about this while avoiding the obvious pitfalls of being associated with the Alt/far right (which anyone right of Lenin seems to be branded nowadays)? As you've said yourself, sitting in a room talking about it on a limited platform (with respect) can only do so much - how do we get people involved?

[@galleon1968]

Great Debate. Do not underestimate the Proud people of Britain,they will fight back.

[@neonatalpenguin]

There's no point people saying "Conservatism is the new counter-culture", if the movement produces no culture. The Gramsci-ites convinced people to turn their back on their religion, nation and history, in exchange for rock n' roll, cool movies, and casual sex. We need to show them that a) that was a bad deal, and b) we can offer them the cultural stuff too. To do this quickly, you'd need to set up a billion-dollar media empire that propagandises the virtues of social conservatism and Judeo-Christian values, perhaps fronted by attractive conservative women and heroic conservative men. Failing that, we can support art and culture (at the same time that SJWs are problematising it), while promoting the virtues of our worldview. And satirising our enemies.

[@kalanos4660]

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The cultural revolution will not be defeated without a corresponding revolution from the right. We await the coming man.

[@sydneycarton3000]

@Qwfwq66 Substantiate your response? Why is it an alert to claim that the opposite of Tony Blair to walk back this lunacy is needed.

[@kalanos4660]

@Qwfwq66 You think you're going to clean up academia, schools, the police, etc. with the current paradigm? The people that you depend on to do that are the very people that lead us into this mess through the destruction of the family onwards. Who do you think in the current system will do what's required to restore our nation?

[@alwayscensored6871]

Glad someone is talking about this.

[@cazhr]

Great stuff! Together, we can overcome. 🙏

[@malpreece5008]

I’m currently studying a history MA in the U.K. and getting rid of funding for humanities would affect me directly, but it might be necessary. The history departments are indoctrinating their students into postmodernist ways of thinking that are almost entirely anti-western. You can challenge the narrative, but you have to be very subtle, otherwise you’ll be singled out, ridiculed, labelled a ‘racist’ or at least have it implied that your ideas are some how bigoted, called aside and warned that your comments are contravening the safe space of other students, receive bad marks in your essays etc.. Academia is in a sorry state.

[@drummondstuart8371]

The present Tory Party in recent years have definitely moved very leftwards!! I laugh when I am actually at work, I work in a cinema, so most of the staff fall into the part- time ' student ' category, and all they complain about is fascist Tories, and austerity and Tory cuts,no money for the NHS , etc.etc.. They always seem to find enough money to wear premium label clothing , shoes and trainers, and buy expensive fast food, like, twice a day!!! I am 62next week, and from 1979 until 1985 , was a Tory party member,!! When John Major showed himself to be pro- European and believed in Big Government , I did not renew my membership!! At the last election a local party worker came to canvass my area, and had found my name in the pre- technology records that I may be a Conservative supporter! So it had taken the Tories 30 + years to re- establish contact! Most of the men whom I helped on a local Tory Committee, linked to Ayr Conservatives have since died! I was a keen 21years old back in the day!! Most of the other party members had already retired! So I just vote now, and as people keep saying to me, Why would anyone vote Tory if you are a working - class low income person!! The older I become, it gets more difficult to explain to people that I believe in free enterprise, private ownership, and free speech , and the ability to live ones' life without state interference, that only being necessary if one is doing something illegal!!! Anyhow ,I watch most of your videos, and have started watching 'Reasoned' with Darren Grimes!😎

[@offgrid2281]

Thank you this kind of discussion is so vital

[@Portekberm]

Right! Free speech must be restored!!!!! I can remember it....

[@srg5405]

Once Covid 19 and Brexit have been dealt with, this Conservative Government with it’s sizeable majority has a golden opportunity to deal with the far-left teaching unions, universities etc. Let’s hope they take it before it is too late.

[@regalsmartie11]

Melanie is the most underrated warrior of our time. You can tell she feels frustrated and under-appreciated. She is miles ahead of these two.

[@rochelle2420]

TREMENDOUS intellectual heft. WE need to share this far and wide. Much gratitude to getting these brilliant minds together!

[@Durnyful]

Yikes! Melanie v much on point.

[@jebjeb1498]

Well said,Melanie.We are all waiting for the leadership but will provide it ourselves if the traditional parties do not wake up fast.

[@andrewdalziel4006]

It is a great shame that discussions like this are not on the MSM, who after all are a major part of the problem. People have become lazy in thought and seem unable to question what they are being told and too lazy to think for themselves ( and that might have something to do with a failed education system).

[@megmartel6005]

That’s the point. Discussions like this would never get on msm. Ever.

[@simonaatkinson5646]

Fabian Society - definitely a conspiracy!

[@robertsmith3878]

check out Yuri Bezmenov

[@alyswilliams9571]

Another excellent discussion. Thankyou Peter.

[@markletts8802]

25min RESPECT .to Melanie Phillips,she made me sit a little straighter,and hold my head up with pride with her words,reaffirming what I knew..but just saying it,somehow made me stronger..👏TY

[@gunnersaurus17]

Rafe Heydel-Mankoo for PM, please!

[@jasoncornell1579]

It should be made mandatory for every level of education professional to swear an oath to be politically neutral in their classroom to acknowledge that it is their job to teach young minds to think NOT to think as they do

[@borderlands6606]

It's impossible to be politically neutral. What's needed is a balance of informed opinions, and recruitment thereof. True diversity is diversity of opinion.

[@alanthorpe3640]

@Borderlands What really matters is the examination of the evidence related to the opinions. Children must be taught to examine the evidence for their beliefs.

[@forthfarean]

While we have several million people in the country who have absolutely nothing in common with our culture, history, and values nothing can change. The more that come here, the worse it will get.

[@juliekemp419]

Thanks again Peter for another sterling discussion. I totally agree with all your guests and i'm a contemporary of Melanie. I have only in recent years become clearer in identifying what i'd only sensed about the decline of values over the past 30-40 years, even in Australia. But i did sense that decline and disparagement when i was in the UK for a year in 1975. I worked as a trained nurse-'nursing sister'/RN (shows the decline in those terms even) in London and then as a barmaid in an hotel/salmon fishing retreat in Perthshire and i recall coming to believe how the decline of the aristocratic elements were despairing not for ego tripping but for 'values' and 'culture'. Can we stop calling those darn 'elites' elites - for they are nothing of the sort. All the quiet of which Melanie and the 2 good men, Marc and Rafe, spoke re the political leaders has been something i have been puzzled by. I understand something of psychology and fear and how the captives can come to 'love' their guards, but really with so much brilliance in 'our shared past', which in quantum terms, is ever-present, we must demand that those 'in power' in the Conservative realms speak out with some Bulldog Eloquence! That 'Red Wall' will really topple if not! BEST OF LUCK, HEALTH AND SUCCESS.

[@nathanaelstunt7317]

Creating multiple places (physical and electronic) where people can speak to each other is quintessential. More and more speakers' corners both publicly AND privately.

[@hannannah1uk]

Laurence Fox speaks for us. "This is a lovely country." They cancelled him.

[@rosalindrussell1020]

I saw an organisation called "British Lives Matter " on Twitter. They seem really sound and I suggest people check them out

[@kingdong7981]

100% right, EVERY word of it !!

[@margyrowland]

Western culture needs Christianity. Love from Australia 🇦🇺

[@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus]

You're absolutely right.

[@JWS1968]

Build conservative universities and fill them only with conservatives but yes the humanities must go somehow.

[@eucrow1973]

Brilliant to hear from Melanie. Please have her on more often, Peter!

[@amurphy-tc2xk]

Impressed with Melanie's knowledge on this. Very informative 41 mins. Thank you!!!

[@sjc620]

We are living in the end results of a people's turning their backs on god and his word. Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.

[@jmwSeattle]

Start by telling the truth about Marx. See Theodore Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It: In Marx “we enter a world of infinite bile - of rancor, hatred contempt - rather than of sorrow or compassion.” - Theodore Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It. “As you read the Manifesto, a ghostly procession of catastrophes seems to rise up from it, as from the witches’ brew in Macbeth.” “The Manifesto makes no mention of individual life. For (Marx) there are no individuals, or true humans, at all.” “It is no wonder, then, that Marx speaks only in categories: bourgeois, the proletarian. Why study a man, when you know Men?” “He was notoriously scathing about all would be practical reformers. Only he knew the secret of turning the nightmare into a dream. There is no need for other parties, let alone individuals with their own personal quirks.” “Where Turgenev (in Mumu) hopes to lead us to behave humanely, Marx aims to incite us to violence.” “The Communists openly declare that their ends can be attained only by forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.” - Dalrymple, Our Culture, What’s Left Of It Intellectuals give Marx a pass in criticizing Communism. They never bring up the damning phrase against it that is generally accepted, “the ends justify the means.” It’s as if they are too sophisticated/intelligent/knowing for what resonates with the “contemptuous” masses.

[@theforestmysticsingh6138]

They need to write to the PM. He's the one who can do something about all this.

[@lindat4294]

I am an American and also an Anglophile. I've crossed the Pond x3 to visit Scotland and England. It truly breaks my heart to see this fantastic civilization that gave so much to the world being pushed aside by complete IDIOTS. Just as here in America, the so-called education system does nothing but indoctrinate. I feel fortunate I am old enough to have been spared much of that garbage. High school was a joke, 4 wasted years. My real education came later when I read history myself. Only recently did I become acquainted with Scruton and Starkey. Their analyses are brilliant! They cut through the crap and examined facts just as our American intellectual Thomas Sowell does. If the UK and the US, which I think have the strongest wills, do not maintain Western values, the future of the world is indeed bleak. Individual freedoms will be snuffed out. I do enjoy forums like this on the internet. Cheers from a black American conservative

[@deniseberesford584]

Socratic questioning is the answer. Most people have been taught to regurgitate. Question them about their ideas. This will reveal their lack of foundation and understanding. Don't counter attack. You don't even have to say what you think. Continually phrase things as questions telling them you want to learn. Make them think about what they are saying and why. Make them use the space between their ears. They will soon realise how little they know. That's when it's your turn to teach them.

[@alanthorpe3640]

They have been brainwashed and incapable of questioning their beliefs.

[@alwayscensored6871]

You cannot debate the left, they just called you names and get all emotional.

[@vakilian]

Denise, that would work if they would sit still and actively debate. Instead any question is dismissed as they don't like the answer. It used to be hypocrisy was a sign that your argument/logic doesn't hold water... now its simply seen as a tenant to be avoided. The deconstruction of society includes discrediting logic itself. Follow the party manifesto comrade. Welcome to our dystopian future.

[@deniseberesford584]

@@vakilian If they can't answer, and depending on their attitude at the time, I may genuinely and kindly suggest they look something up for themselves to improve/expand their knowledge, or sarcastically express my regret at their ineptitude and suggest it is no longer worth my time to enter into discourse with them as they are clearly incapable of coherent thought and have no social skills for conversation😁. Either way I will continue to counter indoctrination. I have a friend I have been working on for 4 years (Brexit) our friendship has changed, my respect for her lessened slightly, but I maintained our friendship. She is just starting to show shoots of new growth. I have been very slowly snd gently dosing her with red pills and it is begining to work. Slow, steady march.

[@vakilian]

@@deniseberesford584 I applaud your patience. I am UK based but my sister is entrenched in US academia, living and breathing the safe space indoctrination for several years. I was too slow to reach her and now she is firmly entrenched in her way of thinking. Incredibly emotional, moving the goalposts and commits basic logical fallacies in her argumentation. Coupled with a sense of moral and intellectual superiority (she's has a humanities PhD from Harvard) its a closed loop, she won't even entertain a test of her most basic axioms without dismissing it or cutting off communication. I wouldn't have believed modern censorship could work in the age of the Internet, but it turns out if you train your brain not to look for any counterargument (or dismiss is as hate speech) then you will only ever re inforce your worldview. Im truly at a loss even how to begin the road to conciliation. All I can say to those who see signs of it, don't wait until its right in front of you. Open up channels of communication, hey we might learn a thing or two ourselves from the far left, but certainly don't allow this polarisation policy to continue unabated. Its vile and insidious, encourages an attitude of obfuscation and division (while rather unironically preaching transparency and tolerance).

[@praisebewibble]

When the Berlin wall fell, we didn't export democracy to the east. We imported the Soviet union to the west

[@lydiamalone1859]

Merkle grew up in East Germany.

[@stevenjones9639]

That's nonsense...

[@praisebewibble]

@@stevenjones9639 which bit is nonsense. Considering the damage that is being self inflicted at the moment I would argue that we have indeed entered into a state of Soviet style rule. Perhaps you disagree.

[@michaellamont2605]

Parler = social media Bitchute = videos Telegram = messaging Brave browser + BAT tokens = Web surfing + Advertising We are evolving. These companies are where I'll be investing

[@suttonformutton6094]

This will all get fixed as long as the people support the party that will soon emerge, that represents Britain and doesn't cuck or compromise.

[@benjamin4894]

You've already got one. But due to the plethora of issues discussed above - very few people have actually heard of Anne Marie Waters and the For Britain movement!

[@ednakendall1913]

What a great interviewer Peter Whittle is, he is one of the few interviewers who give the guests time to answer his questions without continually. interupting.

[@raffam3559]

Unfortunately charitable foundations are the channels used to fund these movements. Nobody is interested in dismantling these money making machines.

[@dianamills5243]

Serious kudos to Peter Whittle for being an excellent facilitator during this discussion.

[@wakeupuk3860]

Melanie is absolutely correct the Long March has been active for decades, I saw it and was totally shocked as teacher from industry when I started teaching in Derby and Nottingham. So is Marc Sidwell that the Long March has been succesful and is here 'now'. Having served in the RAF and learnt about the great amount of money, time and effort spent in 'defending' against the communist threat but then see our education system effectively promote communism. I simply could not come to terms to see books like 1984, Brave New World and Animal Farm not being on the English curriculum let alone not being in the library. I was also disciplined by the headmaster for having some copies which I bought my self so that my Year 10 Pastoral Group could take away and read. At that time I wrote to many senior MPs even Kenneth Baker the Minister for Education about the blatant left wing indoctrination I was witnessing in DerbyShire and Nottinghamshire schools and got no reply what so ever. Even the National Curriculum where I was the IT/Technology Coordinator 'could not believe' the left wing ideas, materials, books and ways of teaching which might as well had come right out of the Chinese Red Brigrade manifesto. This country and it's people were sold done the river by traitorous politicians who threw away every thing this country fought for in WW2 and so many died for. In the end the disgust I felt being part of this Long March, I left a job I loved and was good at. Now 40 years later I see around me the madness of our Adultchilds in their total lack of understanding 'factual' history, a wish to destroy this country and it's people - total and absolute MADNESS !!

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

9:43 Well said!

[@geminil2415]

It would be a good start for parents to stand up and tell schools what they want their children taught.

[@jcawalton]

Excellent discussion. So much truth here, and hope. Thank you.

[@thomridgeway1438]

It started in the 1970's I used to adore history as a young pupil. I read everything about History from The Greeks, Ancient Rome, King Alfred, to Hereward The Wake, to King John and The Magna Carta.Then, I enter Comprehensive school. Suddenly my interest in history dies, as I have to study 'The Chinese Long March', The Troubles In Northern Ireland, The Suffragettes, The History Of Slavery. Subjects that I (as an eager 11 year old), couldn't remotely relate to, found boring, and certainly subjects that destroyed any sense of history and patriotism within me from then on. Now I realise it was all planned. I was being programmed. It didn't influence me greatly, because I started reading and self educating myself. The point is, Cultural Marxism works; and it saps the morale, and destroys every moral virtue we have as human beings. It is a deadly cancer and takes decades to cure, and you have start on future generations to come, because the souls of the ones now are already lost.

[@holachika5071]

Very well said. I’m American, and I remember learning these subversive leftist ideas at my very “conservative” Southern Baptist university in the deep American South in the 1990’s. Torrey in Britain = GOP in the US. Same problems

[@makara80]

Sadly there’s a salient reason why most, legacy-conscious ‘conservative’ politicians seem so disinclined to tackle the rampant ideological-left skew in the civil service and national institutions: fear of becoming a pariah and thus crucially all but _unemployable_ post-political career. Indeed, one only need look across to Nigel Farage who would otherwise be an asset to most corporate boardrooms - especially given his private sector pedigree. But Farage is now a heretical figure and few companies would dare appoint him to some cushy board position for fear of the inevitable Leftist backlash. The vast majority of the modern Right then are just too scared of being cast into the wilderness post-political career, branded forever as ‘controversial’ (at the very least) should they deign to rock the proverbial boat. That’s why most have expediently devolved into decidedly small ‘c’ conservatives, and both Britain and democracy has undoubtedly suffered for it.

[@aucourant9998]

Almost every single institution and company in Britain has been infected with this disease. I got an email from the Christian children's charity Bernardo's the other day saying how important it is to educate our children about 'race and privilege'. This has left me with a dilemma, can I keep donating to a charity which I now believe is advocating racism, while at the same time not withdraw from helping vulnerable children?

[@lydiamalone1859]

You really have to question how much is actually getting to the children.

[@petersteenkamp]

"privilege" is an old communist propaganda word. Look up "dekulakization". It is a label put on people that say they can be stolen from, put in concentration camps and executed in the name of "social justice".

[@martinrobinson9852]

Great session. Thanks! We didn't quite get to "so this is what we do about it", but that's understandable. I think none of us know just now, quite what to do:-)

[@transponderful]

Our leaders have bottled it. We saw them bow and scape and run away. Their Sheer abject cowardice was nauseating. The real men and women in the UK have had enough.... I think some heavy duty action may be imminent.. I can see the Ruling elite have no idea just how raging angry ordinary Brits are. It will only take one small insignificant spark. We are ready and waiting for it.

[@MH-zq4nl]

A good start would be to make it illegal for anyone to be bullied, harassed or to lose his job simply for expressing a personal view. This must stop if we are to see a return to justice.

[@user-we2qv1cx6x]

This was very helpful. I learned a lot. Thank you. To think this was filmed a few years ago. Since this was filmed, everything was kicked into overdrive. So much has been utterly ruined.

[@simonaatkinson5646]

Create online alternative universities!

[@dannychurch7223]

Simona Atkinson I went to the OU. It was woke 15 years ago.

[@juliearmstrong3131]

As was pointed out in this important discussion, it takes courage to challenge the neo-Liberal orthodoxy if the risk is loss of income and/or social standing. It occurred to me that an untapped reserve of knowledge, competencies and real conservatism is the country's retirees, like myself, many of whom have paid off their mortgages and have time to spare. Like the country we are running out of time. I shall look into forming a pressure group on a local level. Perhaps others could do the same.

[@gillps5130]

Absolutely right

[@bobd4563]

Excellent discussion and I fear almost a polarity formed by creeping wedge or by now a deep root cracking the foundations

[@troublington]

Welcome to the Melanie Philips show! She's great but the others are left with inadequate time to let us hear their views

[@stephenvince9994]

This....is what intelligent public debate used to look like....Well done Peter..we all owe you...

[@tomburroughes9834]

Great work, Mr Sidwell!

[@TheWhitehiker]

the ID poli people were already at Harvard in 82-85, when I was in grad school there; the difference today is that they have taken over the administration there on mostly all levels. even the STEM fields are falling, with women shortlisted for jobs over men.

[@elainemansell8499]

We need to lobby the government to grow a pair and stand up to this EVIL threat in our country..

[@anndoig2459]

Viktor Orban- "Up with this I will not put" - or words to that effect

[@monicawarner4091]

@Qwfwq66 . Especially if they differ from yours?

[@SuperLatecomer]

Once again so refreshing to tune into these discussions which are not available elsewhere. But still important to acknowledge that much of the old ways simply had to go. There is a tide running which will no longer tolerate leaving affairs to a patrician few. No Tory is going to put himself in a Canute position ordering this tide to recede. But do these forces, radical as they now seem, really lead towardsMarxism or Anarchy.? My view remains that in the future no party will be electable unless it occupies what we now call the centre right.

[@npoliver2757]

Keep at it. This madness needs to be overcome.

[@deanmthomson]

Never stop producing this content new culture forum.

[@ya6191]

What we should do ? well,, I stopped watching the BBC and reading the Guardian during this lock down. I feel much better every day !

[@TheFatController.]

I recently went back to university (Leeds) to do a PhD, when I arrived there I couldn't believe how oppressive the atmosphere there was, I stood out so much without even realising what I was doing wrong. It's crazy how far academics have gone, and I'm talking about a hard science discipline. Everyone buys into all the mainstream new cult ideas, without question, if you question any of their cherished ideas you are faced with rage and anger. In the end, it was just not a nice environment, and not a place I could have ever made friends, so I had to quit, ending a decade long dream of getting a doctorate.

[@johnhanson5943]

The Conservative Party became a money obsessed and extremist liberal party years ago. Enoch Powell played his cards too naively and his resultant decline was also Britain’s last chance. Now the resistance needs to rise and be in their faces, well coordinated and intelligent. It’s going to be extremely difficult to recover our country, culture and civilisation.

[@dartharpy9404]

Great discussion 👍

[@damianbylightning6823]

Teaching materials online are, if you know how to shop, every bit as good as the materials in any university. In a university, you have access to people directly - and the web can't match that. Investment and policy needs to be made in order to bridge gaps. The universities are out of control and need taming.

[@loremawby3161]

Time to teach our children to take pride in their colour and culture

[@maxtabmann6701]

My ever unanswered question, who synchronized this? Does it need to be synchronized? How come that all pull in the same direction? Do the media and its converted journalists have a role in this?

[@jaimem4973]

Melanie Phillips only coming through left channel, and sound quality terrible.

[@matthiaswalker38]

Was Trump's 4th July speach a sign of change?

[@newtalking3]

Thank you for the book