How does dating work as a Muslim convert? | Dating, Halal Style - BBC

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Twenty-three-year-old Muslim convert Chiedza wants to find love while sticking to Islamic dating rules. #LoveFaithAndMe #DatingHalalStyle #iPlayer
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[@Sumble]

It's not really dating in the westernised way, it's more like courtship with boundaries. Like she met up with someone in a group of other people also looking to find a spouse. In the modern era it's not always possible to find your spouse via a family member, we just need to remember to keep all interactions respectful. Praying that you find the one inshallah!

[@mohamedadan3848]

still free mixing still haram

[@Mohammed110s]

@@mohamedadan3848 indeed it is, there are alot of things we have normalized which are haram. But this free mixing in public is way better than people ending up doing zina. I know its not halal but Allah knows best and we as Muslims should have the best intentions. May Allah have mercy on us

[@SpencerLowe-kg4rg]

Best explanation

[@shaidasadiq959]

May Allah swt grant her a husband that has the characteristics of prophet Muhammad pbuh ameen 🤲🏼

[@zulharriansyahsyamsul3970]

Amin

[@xSunnyDaysx]

Ameen! That’s so sweet

[@anneshiftz]

"I often scraped it (semen) from the garment of the Messenger of Allah with my hand."

[@anneshiftz]

the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

[@majeedm689]

You mean a polygamist with a pre-pubescent child bride?

[@nazirkhan2141]

For those who think that dating is not halal, consider the case of a convert who does not have parental support to get married. Dating in islam anyways has to be in presence of a third person

[@Someguy1357]

It's not dating though... Courtship is a more appropriate term.

[@feefs2139]

​@@Someguy1357 thank u! Dating is like being boyfriend and girlfriend.. that's obviously haram. You have to court to get to know someone before marriage these people are acting crazy in these comments smh.

[@jawhertaga87]

@@feefs2139 I know I'm thinking differently than yours but hear me out. Could the same thing apply to gay people if possible? I mean could gay be able to date somewhat somehow/someway date just as/like the way straight couple do? Is nothing wrong with homosexual dating one another/each other? Because I feel like there is nothing wrong with homosexual dating or maybe just me? If couple were able to date then why not the same for gay ones?

[@usama.9950]

@@jawhertaga87 what are you talking about there's no such thing allowed as gay or homosexuals let alone dating

[@megnelli]

It’s more courting than dating.

[@jawhertaga87]

@Megan alright well what is the difference between the two then? it appears/seems almost the same the definition of the act is not really different the way I see it except the purpose might/maybe/perhaps the only differences here I can't see any other differences other than/aside from which I mentioned I might/could end up being eventually wrong at the end of the day. Care to clarify if you know the difference between the two

[@sily7671]

@@jawhertaga87dating is two people who’s get to know each other alone and take advantage of each other to fulfil their sexual desires. Whereas courtship is where the the brother or father(wali) are involved with the interactions the man and woman have. There’s various reasons for this one of them being hearty break and the protections of the woman’s virginity, because men would rather have sex with a woman and then leave her as if she was an object. If u get the family involved then the girl will be protected from a man’s lusts and also heart break. Dating has become normalised in the west and it’s caused both genders to be completely misguided. Woman don’t value their virginity anymore and men would take any opportunity they can get to sleep with a woman without any strings attached. With Islam, if a man wants to be intimate with a woman he has to marry them and look after the physical needs and take care of them financially. If u want to learn more about the process of marriage in Islam and the the man’s rights and the woman’s rights in the marriage then watch videos on them and you’ll find answers.

[@jawhertaga87]

@@sily7671 because when I get to know the Islamic ruling of it from scholars of knowledge it seemed/appeared and started/began to become much different from which, especially if the Islamic ruling takes another takes from courting and considering that scholars as whole/overall consider courting as same as fiancée sort of/kind of relationship which is obviously goes against Islam which thus/hence makes it disallowed either/as well/too as belief yet I myself I'm unsure and don't know much of it if you ask me, all I'm bringing up is whatever scholars think of it and of course it has to be in accordance to Islam and not just their stance/standpoint if it's just/only stance/standpoint surely/certainly no one would takes it serious anymore. And as we all know finacée is considered disallowed thing in the religion of Islam so courting is no different than which it will take the same ruling by default. You must understand where I'm coming from even if it's not any similar to dating it is basically a fiancée sort of/kind of relationship if it's not dating itself. I also find out/figures out and realized/recognized even if the intention is good here it still considered to be a free mixing no matter whatever intention both parties/sides had something like this is definitively go straight against Islam undoubtedly/no doubt about it. As I always/usual I might end up being wrong here especially when something about Islam specifically/particularly

[@sily7671]

@@jawhertaga87 okay you’ve got got it wrong. The title finance is only there when both parties agree to get married so it’s not haram to have finances. And it’s not free mixing because whenever u want to get in contact with the other person, u need to get the the woman’s father involved. I don’t think u understand much about the marriage laws and the process of it so I advise u to watch videos on them if u want to find the right path.

[@jawhertaga87]

@@sily7671 I'm surprised to know there were any difference between finaceé and dating I heard no one ever mentioned before until I heard you only you just mentioned which is why this is the first time I ever notice there were actual difference between the two for second I thought they were the same or at least similar to some extent, so for me as I mentioned it's all based on one's intention or feelings towards which although my stance/standpoint still stand even though doesn't matter much specially if something related to religion and the likes I can't make up/come up with/bring up anything from my own thinking all my takes are based on scholars standpoint/stance towards whatever ruling about Islam as I don't know much about it since I'm not that knowledgeable especially when it comes to specification/specialty/specialization and the likes/sort. Thus/hence I have no right to agree nor/neither disagree and start/begin assuming anything without having anything to back up my claim because I might/maybe end up making up a false assumption of my own. Then again it's not me who disagree it's that the scholars say otherwise and complete otherwise of what you were thinking/believing. Don't get the wrong idea I'm not trying to misinform you with fallacious information or anything I'm just saying what the scholars said about which

[@khadsykoo2528]

It's very hard to get married these days. Either the guys have too many expectations or family members make it difficult.

[@khadsykoo2528]

@ajidigital3191 well that's my experience. Mainly the mums of the guys have said no or made it difficult.

[@jawhertaga87]

In truth/actually I agree and disagree at the same because it is all based on under the circumstances once where one could find not the same as the other one. It depends on whom you specifically/particually referring to here because It differs from one to another

[@beyondhope4humanity]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@bmj9221]

Masha Allah sister welcome to Islam. Am so happy your family accepted you. I pray for Allah bless you and your family and give you a very good husband in the future.

[@may-fd8jc]

She looks so much like her mother

[@fatimaslifeline]

If you actually have common sense you will know that she is looking for husband is courtship before marriage, is not dating at all of you that are assuming that she’s dating in the comment watch the video again, understand something before jumping in to conclusions, which Allah will ask about on judgment day , stop jumping into conclusions

[@Arsenalfan4ever]

It’s good she’s doing it in the Islamic way according to the tenets of the faith.

[@mohamedadan3848]

what islamic way this is free mixing no wali involved just vibes

[@nadar.9941]

@@mohamedadan3848 Can it be considered free mixing when they're there for the purpose of marriage? It's not like they're flirting with each other or talking about anything inappropriate, there's very clear boundaries put in there.

[@mohamedadan3848]

@Nada R. naa still not valid

[@nadar.9941]

@@mohamedadan3848 Brother you're making the deen so much harder than it is. Even in the time of the prophet Muhammad PBUH, he would talk with women and men, women would come up to the prophet PBUH and ask for his advice. The purpose of those conversations were clear and there were clear boundaries.

[@CazKing43]

I come from a Muslim background and that hasn't helped me find a husband, I've been doing it on my own....in my culture (somali) parents don't help daughters find a husband its seen as shameful.

[@xSunnyDaysx]

Same here. ‘Ceeb waaye’. Men have to come ‘find you’ lol. I’m in Holland and it’s so hard to find any decent man on my level. And most men don’t want to do it in the proper way by saying to your father or brother he’s interested. Always wanna get to know you better through the phone and dhuu dhuumasho (hide and seek lol).

[@queen0294]

​@@xSunnyDaysx what doesn't it mean? It's so interesting sound like wolof to me

[@sumz_2126]

@@queen0294 it means “it’s shameful”

[@amala2856]

That’s not true, as a Somali women it depends on your parents not our “culture”. Alhamdulilah my parents were always very very prevalent in the marriage request I received and treated everyone fairly (weather he was middle eastern or Somali)

[@blueblue5427]

@@amala2856 well said.

[@blueblue5427]

What a beautiful woman

[@zulharriansyahsyamsul3970]

actually the process are simple me and my wife for the first time we swap bio data and meet with mediator or our family from my experience we meet only 4 times and with only 8 weeks we get merried, alhamdulillah now already 12 years and 3 kids

[@xSunnyDaysx]

Then both you and your wife were sincere people. Allahuma barik feek

[@nadar.9941]

What is bio data?

[@zulharriansyahsyamsul3970]

@@nadar.9941 name, birth plays, history of illness, history of your school, age, including new picture of your self

[@nadar.9941]

@@zulharriansyahsyamsul3970 Jazaka Allah khairan for the answer🥰.

[@zaralearningkorean]

this is a struggle I never thought BBC would be covering especially since even born Muslims are dealing with this issue. I wish we had more content like this

[@Pretti_sundara_]

I’m glad that ppl are showing this… because it’s hard

[@masumapoppyrob5594]

Insha-allah may Allah SWT bring you your match very soon sister and alhumdulilla and thankful to your family for excepting you as a Muslim daughter may Allah SWT always keep blessings upon you and your family sister

[@larosenoirek2197]

Where is the full documentary! I am interested.

[@maryamali3347]

All the best sister. Just remember Muslim men are not really the men you read in the Quran anymore. Majority of them are losers but I’m sure you will find someone good for you! All the best and welcome to Islam 💋💋

[@LipsOfNefertiti]

Yessss, girly!!! I hope he was a good ma5ch for you! InshaAllah! Keep doing your best!❤🎉

[@ajidigital3191]

@@Carter.112 amen. Thanks

[@IqraOnlineTutor]

May Allah help her

[@Aviation75]

امين Ameen

[@Synclon]

Ameen

[@IqraOnlineTutor]

@@Aviation75 👍

[@bojackhorsingaround]

meanwhile Afghani are tortured everyday because dating takes precedence! 😅

[@milhouse14]

Keep UK Christian

[@Aviation75]

May allah help her

[@bojackhorsingaround]

He doesnt exist

[@Aviation75]

@@bojackhorsingaround you have to believe to know that he exist

[@hyrunnisa997]

aww i hope that guy calls her back. inshAllah. that was so cute.

[@emzannisa0121]

As a born Muslim stop giving false information in Islam dating is forbidden

[@salah-cs9fc]

Keep it halal 100%

[@GOKUBLACK-xq4is]

May ALLAH swt Bless our Sister ❤. Love from INDIA.

[@user-wo9uh7nj5o]

Mashaa Allah , may Allah Increase blessings in your family, amen

[@hopebgood]

How did I know there'd be a load of weird comments on this vid? Just a hunch 🙄

[@shahchoudhury1855]

Beautiful to see people trying to do it the right way and with a pure intention Go on sanni 🤣 lookin smart as ever, but make sure you keep it halal my brother 😜❤️

[@justmagaji]

May Allah Help u Sister

[@nayyarzafar2877]

Dating is never halal

[@morrisoniamdoneasda4432]

Shut up u salty guy.

[@bojackhorsingaround]

😅

[@milhouse14]

Islam only accepts fixed marriages.

[@screwfat]

Define 'dating' first before haraming it

[@nayyarzafar2877]

@@screwfat oh please

[@andyhughes8433]

Good on her gal!

[@jamilhussainbarbahuiya90]

Masaa allah

[@abasmaalim2312]

Am here. Wallahi. I would give anything to make queen of my world

[@bigtex4058]

Watch for the new BBC show "No Sex in the City".

[@milhouse14]

LOL

[@amcheck4828]

When you really wanna go to heaven but also your so bored.

[@bojackhorsingaround]

😂

[@mohamedassouqi1984]

This is not islam way of life This people are just lives western style of life and not islamic one

[@mohamedadan3848]

may allah guide all these people who think dating is permissible may allah guide us all❤

[@anneshiftz]

i love dating and i keep it faithful and respectful

[@jamilhussainbarbahuiya90]

Assalamu oalikum how are you where are you.from ?

[@jawhertaga87]

For anyone who say dating is against their religion thus/hence disallowed for Muslims to practice it should/must also consider friends dating as they also might as well turns out/end up being gay or lesbian because no one knows the intention at this point this alone shows how important intention is in Islam because you can't expect everyone to have the same or at least similar as yours nobody does especially with nowadays thinking and acting towards things. Muslims aren't the same ever since not practicing the religion well since then. Because we have to note and understand that Muslims are people too, with feelings who they may/might tend towards others things other than/aside from/besides/apart from Islam not just always about Islam only/alone which is why nonpracticing Muslims is term which has been around for so long now. Therefore giving the benefit of the doubt is sometimes as important as trusting others cause not all trustworthy as they claim themselves to be

[@11simonjr]

By far the silliest and zestiest logic I've ever seen. Opinion rejected.

[@eagletalk]

Who is Real God?

[@Synclon]

Allah (SWT)

[@Synclon]

@@Michael-ne7gq poor soul

[@bojackhorsingaround]

😅

[@Synclon]

@@Michael-ne7gq learn about Islam, My Brother you will not regret it, Science itself is in the Qur'an 1400 Years Ago Before Scientists Discover Aything Arround The Galaxy and Arround Us!

[@kylarazoth6289]

@Michael logic dictates that there has to be a god and the scientific methods came from muslims who were belivers Hope you start your jorney of understanding why you were crated by reading the quran

[@KyaSaj-mq6wn]

Astaghfirullah... maybe they learn the religion halal and haram first.. I pray they all find suitable partners.. But this is not correct

[@BK-3112]

✅✅✅✅

[@Animodeus]

Wtf happened to BBC

[@romainsavioz5466]

Poor you

[@Synclon]

What Happened to You Complaining?

[@Vshwdkshnh]

40% of BBC staff is islamist, leaching on tax payer money.🥴

[@milhouse14]

BBC should stop shoving Muslim ideology down our throats.

[@andysee6045]

Islamised.

[@Stratford_Dawah]

This is haram. So what's the difference?

[@mamadousalane2024]

The people who say dating is haram in Islam are also dating lol.

[@860rondo]

😮

[@860rondo]

@@ajidigital3191 🤔

[@Guttergirl61]

Why is marriage always so wanted!?

[@omo744]

Why not?

[@dunyahageb450]

It establishes responsibility upon the man of the woman and grants women the rights of being a wife, because in a casual relationship she has non, a man can walk out any moment with no consequences after getting what he wanted. These rights are protection, full financial responsibility, and paternal responsibilities of the man upon his wife and future children. While the man gets his needs taken care of, loyalty, and respect. It is a totally different and more sophisticated dynamic than what happens in the west, where woman are basically taken advantage of for nothing in return.

[@1hunna877]

Marriage actually reduces a lot of the issues we see prevalent in Western Society for example Single mothers, STDs, psychological health issues.

[@xSunnyDaysx]

@@dunyahageb450 😘 great comment!

[@xSunnyDaysx]

@@1hunna877 Great comment! I do hope the muslim ummah, specially are men follow the sunnah very well. Unfortunately there’s still a high rate of single mums due to the men not being upon the deen.

[@user-di6yt5hv8x]

Ислам противостоит гиене!

[@tobialabi01]

She’s delusional

[@mohammedmay]

Why are you so shocked that she turned Muslim?

[@lousimms1422]

I’m so confused as to why people are shocked, in London when I was in school an average of 10 kids used revert to Islam a year and most of them were black so I’m used to meeting hundreds of reverts but I guess most people here are not from urban cities

[@mmg12francis56]

Does anyone know how I can sign up for this Muzz events ?

[@goodhuman5036]

BBC is a islamic channel ❤

[@miguelsureda9762]

TSUNAMI OF EX MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE

[@Zamolxes-eg5yv]

😂😂😂😂 if they give up to islam they become atheist not christians

[@iloveart20101]

More lies and dating is haram in Islam

[@rdrr5973]

Alert warning ..look up LOVE JIHAD ....prepare your self and be alert ....rejection may cost you and your family your lives you are dealing with monsters

[@btecndcomp]

FULL SAPPORT SAAR

[@EV-EV-EV]

Love jihad is awesome 😂

[@StevenMiller]

RSS Hindutva punjeet cow dung worshipper spotted

[@areejshams3253]

This is UK and not India. Chutiya na bana sabko

[@foysollee750]

Hindu - ( right-wing Hindutva) has micro pe**s & words undesirable m*n !!!!