How does Hong Kong (Final Approach) work? | RWY07L/07R

[@VASAviation]

*PLEASE READ* Something new for this 2018! We resume the series "How does it work" with our brand new radar view feature where I'll explain everything in hand about the sector we're watching. What airspace, limits, adjoining sectors, etc. These videos WON'T have subtitles but we can easily follow the audio by watching the radar screen and see how the controller is giving instructions and to which aircraft. Any feedback is welcome and you can suggest new airports you'd like to listen! :D

[@yuisalmon8662]

HK fans here! Thanks for making this video!

[@BULLSHXTYT]

Yui AY I wish he will make a video about our epic IGS approach

[@c.j.t1061]

That controller is a machine - No faffing about - this speed, this altitude - tower-goodbye - efficiency at its best

[@inh4855]

Hong Konger here, yey

[@kinglimpang8067]

香港人報到

[@VASAviation]

Use English, please.

[@1174512641]

Hong Konger hands up here :P

[@antyoof]

@@VASAviation nah we as Hong Kongers will know it ;)

[@rdrrrdrrr]

Absolutely brilliant presentation of ATC into an insane airport. Must be so much work keeping the flight and audio da in sync. Great work.

[@VASAviation]

It really is so much work :D

[@Zizzily]

One of the few things I remember about Hong Kong was the approach to Kai Tak when I was a kid and turning through the skyscrapers. RIP VHHX

[@VASAviation]

Epic airport.

[@hcgaming4u]

Hong Kong Squadddddd

[@VASAviation]

Heeeyy! Many Hong Kongers here :D

[@LugzPercy]

The way you help us understand the communications, so people who have never done that sort of thing before in real life and are preparing for their future in aviation (like children and teenagers) and even people who struggle with comms generally (perhaps people who are learning English from a foreign language to communicate nationally). You are doing an awesome thing - Plus we get to listen to the funny stuff too! Keep up the good work! Love the channel!

[@VASAviation]

Wow, thanks very much for those words. It's my pleasure to help! :D

[@DavidsGameChannel]

Hong Kong Director love to rader vactor those plane to final, nice. PS:Hong Konger here and always fly in VHHH by FSX

[@calyodelphi124]

Oooh, I really like this new format! This is definitely great for listening exercises! Especially for someone like me who's slow on the uptake and easily misses things I'm not listening for or that my ears haven't been trained to listen for. :) Do Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport (KATL) at some point! It's the world's busiest airport by both passenger traffic and number of landings and take-offs across its FIVE parallel runways! That'll be a super fun exercise in teaching about how airports with more than just two parallel runways number them, too. :) Fun trivia: One of my aunts lives south of Atlanta, and for a couple of consecutive years when I used to drop in on Atlanta to go to a convention, I'd crash at her place, drive out to the second MARTA station up the line (the first one is *in* KATL), which happens to be directly underneath runways 27R/L (departing)/9R/L (approach), and while waiting for the next train into downtown Atlanta, you could easily count one jet per minute per runway.

[@VASAviation]

Atlanta will be coming soon :)

[@calyodelphi124]

Sweeeeet

[@raymondlwm]

Hongkonger assemble

[@FSstefan7]

Awesome video. Really appreciate the effort you have put into this

[@VASAviation]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@c.j.t1061]

That by far sir is one of the best videos concerning ATC anywhere!!! As a GA pilot, i will never be needing to fly into HK , but i have better understanding of what it means to fly into these huge airports. The biggest i have flown into is KPHL-Philadelphia. and i thought that was crazy-LOL. Keep up the excellent work. My suggestion would be EGVN-BRIZE NORTON AB in England, but with it being military i'm assuming that it would be impossible. Any military airport would be very cool to be broken down in this fashion.

[@VASAviation]

Thanks for the comment! I'll try to work some military airports ;)

[@Izmael1310]

I always love to fly into VHHH in my sim. I love their SIDS and STARS and the scenery surrouding HongKong area and the airport. I suggest EHAM (Schiphol Netherlands). Awesome airport with a lot of traffic and 6 runways. Usually 3-4 runways are operational.

[@VASAviation]

Thanks for the suggestion! :)

[@fireleopard7380]

Now I know the reason why planes always fly above my university campus - it's on the departure air corridor.

[@mhi9377]

Wow, this is awesome... Been flying into and out of VHHH for the longest time... It is still one of the more challenging airport around the region due to the unforgiving weather and terrain. May I ask where did you get the radar plot from?

[@navarxos86]

Beautifully made, the only thing missing is a line indicating present heading, but as long as you wait a bit, it still makes sense.

[@VASAviation]

We've added trail dots to show the flown track. We're still working on speed vector (the famous sword) but we get some bugs and it's not working very well.

[@MaxCheng95]

While being a HKer I'm a bit surprised I didn't even know FAD is a thing for VHHH. Thanks. lol

[@kichuntse4746]

Awesome video! I want more videos on Hong Kong Int. haha

[@VASAviation]

Sure! :)

[@falconHKer]

The days still have Dragon

[@isaaclao2380]

CHEERS FOR HONG KONG

[@raphaelmaure2650]

It's a really good idea to do this video. I love theim !

[@VASAviation]

Glad you liked it! :)

[@shenqiao8204]

Gonna go to Hong Kong and might land at 07L

[@MaxCheng95]

Shen Qiao The fact is, you would ONLY land at 7L since the current operation in VHHH has north runway (7L-26R) used only for landing while the south runway (7R-26L) used for take-offs and mixed freight operation

[@MaxCheng95]

That is because the terrain of Lantau Island to the south prevented the two runways from operating independently

[@williamcll]

Youve gotta do a new version once they build the next runway

[@BenHauMusic]

awesome!!

[@adrianchu26h]

Greetings from Hong Kong :)

[@VASAviation]

Greetings!

[@boskoop]

Nice work 👍 Could you do LSZH and include a missed approach or an approach pattern switch (e.g. 14 to 28)?

[@VASAviation]

Sure! :D

[@williamtang4685]

How do you get the footage of the radar screens? Is there a website or some kind of software you use?

[@frankd7236]

Hi dooes anybody understand what did the controller say at 2:52? CATHY 879 descend down something,,

[@ben20789]

should be descend 2000 ft

[@msnpassjan2004]

I can never tell, so I have to ask. Is that a British guy /accent running ATC?

[@jjcarlos]

Correction, CEB is Cebu Pacific Air not Cebu Air.

[@VASAviation]

Cebu Air is the callsign!!

[@jjcarlos]

VASAviation - only Cebu is the callsign not Cebu Air. Maybe they use it for international flights because on domestic flights they use Callsign Cebu. But I heard on the feed they say Cebu118

[@jjcarlos]

And it is an international flight from Manila RPLL.

[@lorenzopaulon5691]

When az631?

[@iamt_tl]

after watching this i don't want become ATC anymore T.T I can't make any sense out of this mess.

[@tomgutteridge8567]

TLTango it’s much easier once you familiarise yourself with the airspace and understand the corridors the controllers use

[@calyodelphi124]

It's only a mess to the untrained eye. ;) ATCs train hard for months to get the basics down like reading radar views just like this, then spend a years working region control airspace or tower control at lesser airports with low traffic to build up experience, and typically only the best or most experienced ATCs earn a place in the hot seats at airports like Hong Kong, Hartsfield-Jackson, JFK, Dulles, London Heathrow, Tokyo, LAX, and so on. To those ATCs and their highly trained eyes, that mess makes perfect sense. It has everything they need to know about the airspace so they can vector aircraft in and out like clockwork. As long as the pilots themselves are on top of their game, read back instructions properly and follow to the letter, everything runs smooth as silk.

[@PhilipVels]

No chance of going back to see VHHX? :P

[@VASAviation]

Unfortunately not.

[@MaxCheng95]

He wouldn't be able to. VHHX closed down in 1998 and I don't believe public ATC data goes back that far back in time

[@PrograError]

could you do Singapore's airspace (SIN/WSSS) ? would like to see those more "popular" and challenging airport/ airspace. Nice work

[@VASAviation]

I can try for sure :)

[@averylogan6832]

Wait isn't Hong Kong International Airport (VHKG) instead of (VHHH)?

[@PhilipVels]

VHHH is the correct ICAO for Hong Kong

[@averylogan6832]

yscb1 are you serious?

[@PhilipVels]

Yes. What's the problem?

[@averylogan6832]

yscb1 the problem is that on a website called flightaware.com says that Hong Kong International Airport is HKG Not HHH so i think VASavation was just messing with us

[@PhilipVels]

HKG is the IATA. Very simple stuff you can find in 4 seconds on Wikipedia. "Hong Kong International Airport (IATA: HKG, ICAO: VHHH) is the main airport in Hong Kong. It is located on the island of Chek Lap Kok, which largely comprises land reclaimed for the construction of the airport itself. The airport is also colloquially known as Chek Lap Kok Airport (赤鱲角機場), to distinguish it from its predecessor, the closed Kai Tak Airport."

[@Nae나에]

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[@sarveshprajapati3878]

First like second comment

[@1174512641]

HKE should be HK Express instead of HK Shuttle :) thanks for the great video.

[@VASAviation]

Negative. Hong Kong Shuttle is the callsign.

[@mattthegamerhongkong6948]

VASAviation affirm, but I agree that Hong Kong Express is better than Hong Kong Shuttle