How does self-defence apply when defending your home?

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[@williamgeorgefraser]

With the amount of knife crime in London, you would be stupid not to take action or run away. As for walking into my house, I would take off his head with a cricket bat. These are not pranks, they are crimes, especially at a time of so much criminal activity by gangs in big cities.

[@elizabethtetley2526]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍

[@mikehipperson]

@@Baneful_Ben Only if the 🐖s find the body!

[@tonytasker489]

​@@mikehipperson Bury the body in the garden. If for any reason the body is found, just say you bought some top soil off Fred West.

[@johnfrancis2215]

@@tonytasker489 🤣🤣👍

[@barriewilliams4526]

@@Baneful_Ben Simple, play the race card. Seem to work pretty well🙃

[@DerekEmerson]

He was on Piers Morgan and during the interview he was questioned on ‘getting off lightly’ his reply was “it’s not my fault the UK justice system is soft, is it?”

[@taras6806]

I think that was about the only point Mizzy made that had any reference to anything. I saw that too. He is lucky as has been said that he is in UK where guns are not a general 'thing'. Unlucky for the rest of us perhaps. Mizzy couldn't string a sentence together in that supposed interview - I think the only sentence he could string together would be a well-deserved prison sentence.

[@rahjah6958]

His argument excuses pedophiles

[@rahjah6958]

@@taras6806 nothing to do with guns, Im not even allowed to use a teapot as a weapon, I’m meant to “hide and call the police”

[@RichardEnglander]

Yep, which shows how he sees UK as some foreign place he's not really part of.

[@taras6806]

@@rahjah6958 Yes of course. The slight problem there is whether they would arrive on time.

[@b.nichols3255]

I once stayed in another country where a burglar was caught and killed by the homeowner. The response from the police there was " Tough. The burglar should not have been there". The burglar never did it again.

[@benjaminwilson3896]

😂😂😂

[@StarlasAiko]

As it should be in all countries.

[@ArmchairOps]

I love a happy ending.

[@spazmonkey3815]

That has happened here in America many times.

[@jxy_vbn8156]

As it should be.

[@dave-si1vq]

Why would you care about the law or consequences if your wife and children were in danger??? You should eliminate the threat without hesitation. What is wrong with people?

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

because something like that carries consequences for the home owner/real victims - Its unfortunate but the UK doesnt have a castle doctrine or a stand-your-ground law.

[@dave-si1vq]

@@Rose.Of.Hizaki who cares? If you dont eliminate that threat to your family they could be raped murdered etc. Oh but at least you didn't get nicked? Yeah right.

[@stevemicheudedubois.3230]

I don't care, if someone threatens my family, I would shallow grave them in the local woods..😤😡

[@mercedesblack7828]

Things could get ridiculous. If your kids get hurt, social services might list you as an unfit parent...

[@stevemicheudedubois.3230]

@@mercedesblack7828 That is a very good point. Which is why you have bury the scumbag's body where it will never be found 😏👍

[@bemusedkidney8619]

He's NOT a TikTok "prankster" as the media says... he's an outright criminal that films himself. He should be behind bars.

[@dcw1467]

He won't be though............Privileged, if you know what I mean🤔

[@libtardsrus7823]

Same as the BLM riots were mostly peaceful as our pathetic establishment would have us believe

[@hplovehandle]

​@@dcw1467 I don't understand. How is he privileged?

[@mre7862]

@@hplovehandle protected ‘minority’.

[@dirtyharold7164]

​@@hplovehandle he's black, which means the system cannot be too harsh on him or it will face accusations of racism.

[@lewis72]

Tony Martin: Legend. Norwich fans were subsequently singing "We shoot burglars. We shoot burglars."

[@oz_jones]

Top lad

[@essexoffroader3773]

The only mistake Tony Martin made was being a bit slow reloading

[@andyetheridge]

not just burglars but were they not pikeys

[@joefarr3304]

For a start, ban him from holding any social media accounts for the next 100 years.

[@christinecanning5972]

Good idea 👍

[@dawnmoriarty9347]

How to enforce such a ban? EDITED to add......I despise his actions and would happily see him going to jail for a long time for his already documented behaviour. He's invading privacy and it's extremely unfunny. Social media sites in this case Tik Tok and those who watch such videos are also culpable

[@BedsitBob]

@@dawnmoriarty9347 A long prison sentence, for breaking the ban.

[@sirmalus5153]

@@dawnmoriarty9347 Might have to enforce common sense in his case. if he is in "trouble" again in the next 10 years say and it is to do with his social media 'presence', then he goes to jail for 5 years for a start maybe. We need to stamp out behaviour like his, before someone dies in a scuffle or from shock, like the old woman might have done when her dog was stolen. I can honestly say with hand on heart, that if a dog of mine had been taken in such a mannner as that, I would now be inside charged with his manslaughter.

[@stephengraham1153]

And if tik-toc stopped videos such as his from being shown and the tik-toc audience stopped watching them he wouldn't bother (probably).

[@ageoflistening]

Its ridiculous. The law is upside-down on home invasion. If a stranger enters someone elses home they should be aware that they are putting their own life at risk invading a house. They are putting themselves in danger. The fact that this is up for discussion is ridiculous.

[@morbideddie]

No one is saying you cant defend yourself in a home invasion. People are saying you cant murder people who break into your home. Pretty big difference.

[@MDM1992]

​​@@morbideddieif they enter your home with bad intent its not murder. Its self defence. Manslaughter at WORST. if i wake up to a man with a knife smashing the downstairs window and in my half asleep and fearful state i stab him with a kitchen knife, are you really suggesting i pre meditated killing that threat to my life? Because thats what murder is.

[@angryengine9616]

​@@morbideddie why not? Lmao. Why give them any quarter at all?

[@morbideddie]

@@angryengine9616 because murder is bad. Can’t believe that needs explaining to people, but you can’t just kill people.

[@ericconnor8419]

They are, you are allowed to batter them, who told you that you are not allowed to defend your own home? Sounds like you have been believing nonsense in the Daily Mail.

[@gsum1000]

There was nothing remotely disproportionate about Tony Martin's actions. He should not have been charged with anything given the circumstances.

[@Nickcooper625]

He left a window unsecured, took the fuse out of the lighting circuit, removed several steps from the staircase, and sat at the top of it cradling the shotgun he did not have legal possession of, one that required a Firearms Certificate rather than a Shotgun Certificate. He wasn't an innocent homeowner caught unawares, he set a deliberate trap with the intention of shooting any intruders he deliberately attracted.

[@SiCrewe]

@@Nickcooper625 On the other hand, his farm had been robbed repeatedly and the robbers had publically claimed that the police couldn't help him and they'd continue to target him. As I said in another comment, regardless of how you feel about this case, it was more convoluted than the headlines suggest.

[@johnwoodward4319]

@@Nickcooper625 you forgot to mention that he had been invaded several times before by these scum.

[@jimbobjimbob8275]

​@@Nickcooper625 maybe because he had been repeatedly targeted? Doesn't matter what traps had been set, if they hadn't invaded his home, they would not have been hurt.

[@thunderbug8640]

​@@Nickcooper625 The fault is entirely on those who CHOSE to break in. The fact he was ready for them is immaterial, since he wouldn’t have been able to shoot anyone had no one broken in.

[@rangerwhite5165]

If they're illegally in your house, they're fair game, even for lethal force. You do not know their motive and you shouldn't have to try to reason why they have entered.

[@ppo2424]

No that's bollocks mate

[@rubix4195]

Maybe across the Pond but, nah, not here.

[@davidw460]

How can the force used in my defence of my life EVER be disproportionate ?

[@R1chardH]

People don't realise there were 3 of them that went into the house, all dressed like chavvy yobs. I'm disappointed in the sentence, and the lack of a kicking.

[@FamilyFriendlyBushcraft]

As far as I’m concerned when an intruder enters a private residence then they relinquish any ‘rights’ they may have. The law be damned.

[@supreme_overlord]

The "I was just pranking him by smashing his face in with a baseball bat" defence.

[@BrainUser113]

I believe if someone comes through your door or window un announced you should have the right to seriously hurt them. Otherwise how are you supposed to protect your property. It's actually ridiculous, criminals have more rights than homeowners in the UK

[@me5969]

I know a lad by the name of "Scouse" (no prizes for guessing where he's from) and his girlfriend was telling us at a BBQ how there was a woman in Liverpool who was going around shouting for help through letter boxes so when people opened up to help, men would burst in and tie them up and rob them ect. Scouse at the time was about 16st and looks like Tom Hardy in Bronson but with more tattoos and a beard. He had a plan to deal with these intruders but that never happened but what did happen (allegedly) is two people tried to steal his car, so he (allegedly) got his girlfriend to cover him in baby lotion (an idea he stole from the film Bronson ironically) put on a pair of battered old army boots and climbed out of the bedroom room window and onto the canopy above the door and then jumped down and started attacking the two men. Moral of the story is, people might be prepared for a fight but they're certainly not prepared for a 16st naked scouser to fall from the sky and start chasing them. Honestly the best way to deal with intruders is to just charge at them naked because not many people want to get bummed.

[@Shadowknightneo]

Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. If someone cames into my home, only one of us would be leaving, let the jury decide if it was reasonable or not at that moment I am protecting my family and I couldn't give a.....

[@fredmercury1314]

If I'm on the jury, it was reasonable. 👌

[@phutureproof]

couldn't couldn't give a ...

[@jacksimper5725]

Tony Martin should NEVER have been charged in the first case ,3 people were involved excluding himself ,and he was alone in the middle of nowhere,he gave a warning to the intruders which I believe they ignored. IF The law on firearm ownership was not taken away from the public previously by the politicians these people/criminals maybe would not have committed their crime . The Law still is an ass when it comes to protection of UK citizens ,Criminals have all the lethal firearms (even tasers or spray are not allowed )and the public are still denied the right to fully protect themselves and their families with deadly force .

[@andycleary6209]

If i am remembering correctly he had been burgled a number of times and the police took little if any notice of it, hence he resorted to defending himself.

[@NeilCWCampbell]

If I recall it was the shooting in the back that was the criminal act

[@makerealitygreatagain8809]

Yes and it's intentionally supposed to be in the criminals favour.

[@thethinking1]

i would have called him not guity, because of the very circumstances you mention.

[@NeilCWCampbell]

@@thethinking1 cool bro. Are you a judge?

[@jakey1995abc]

Best self defence advice is to not call the police afterwards, unless you have reason to believe someone else has witnessed the events. That is the best way to legally protect yourself within this corrupt country.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

No, call them to report a crime at the premises. You are not employed by the public prosecutors office, you are not able to assess the offence they would assess ascworthy of prosecution. The failure of the police to attend is their decision.

[@cgsec2275]

I have to disagree with you there. Firstly you will never be sure who is aware of what. And if the criminal attacker gets seriously injured, they will probably go to the hospital -who will almost certainly report it. The authorities were not there and did not see what happened, and if the first story they hear is from the criminal, they may question why the victim did not report the crime (they might not even be able to tell who is the real victim if the mugger claims he was the one being mugged for example). A lot of them are not deep thinkers or philosophers, and just following basic training. My best advice is use reasonable force following the law and report everything. This may not seem fair(as the system is not perfect) but you can't beat the system these days, just try and work with it as best you can.

[@oz_jones]

​@@cgsec2275 the implication was that the only doctor needed would be a pathologist. It was also implied that there would be any evidence of grevious bodily harm

[@johnpatrick1588]

In Englandstan people can't even move protesters blocking roads without getting in trouble. In Florida, it is a 3rd-degree felony to do so without a permit and drivers trapped by protesters may escape even if it causes injury or death to protesters and the driver will have no civil or criminal liability. Have not seen roadblocks lately.

[@oz_jones]

*speedbumbs

[@exgren]

If he walked into my house without permission... He would be having his next few meals through a straw

[@theimperialist2686]

Let's be honest, if he tried this in the US, we'd be having a different story.

[@cast_cal]

Depending on which State, it's usually shoot to kill in the USA. In many States, the gun you store in your home does not even have to be registered (especially inherited fire arms - _grandpa's shotgun_ ).

[@jamesmurphy7828]

Hey man, we still got kitchen knives over here

[@taras6806]

It sure would be. Frankly I wish reasonable force (causing harm, sigh) had been used against him in his stupid reckless terrifying 'prank' had been used. The guy needs to be put away.

[@andycleary6209]

@@jamesmurphy7828 Trouble is he's in your kitchen and you're upstairs in your boxer shorts.

[@LemonChick]

Keep reading "if this happened in the USA.... yadda yadda yadda". But as nasty a shit as this lad is, kill him? Really? That is proportionate? Clue ---> no, it isn't.

[@scaryfakevirus]

In my view, if someone breaks into my house I would immediately feel threatened because I wouldn't know their intentions. People have been murdered after a break in, so just hurting them allowing them to respond would not be sufficient to keep me safe, so I would have to make sure they wouldn't be able to harm me the first time. So extreme force initially would be my first option. It's always easy when a jury sits and decides after a few hours or more whether you used the correct amount of force or not, but you have to make a split second decision - possibly to save your life. Get that wrong and for you it could easily be an coroners inquest!

[@allenniumfalcon]

I would make home invasion the most frightening idea to ever cross someones mind.

[@Doshbuzz]

It’s simple - You should be able to take whatever action you deem necessary if someone breaks into your home. The same should someone pull a knife on you.

[@rahjah6958]

I got schizophrenia, I’m struggling to NOT think of what I would do

[@Circa1692]

Imagine how that poor family felt when their home was being invaded, they probably still feel traumatized by it, same as the lady whose dog was snatched. It may be funny to the perpetrators but it leaves a damaging and lasting effect on the victims. The laws of this land are ridiculous!

[@dazzibhoy]

these laws are so crazy and confusing .. glad you are here to help

[@geofferzh79]

This sounded like a bunch of riddles if someone broke into my home I say it's reasonable to suggest that they won't be able to walk for a few months because I'm not exactly going to make them a cup of tea am I.

[@rule3036]

Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

[@BarryBethal-yv2oz]

The coppers always pick the easiest option if you have an home invasion and you defend yourself the chances are the householder will be prosecuted before the perpetrators. If you get your property broken into this is a traumatic experience before anything even happens.

[@fkgoogleplus6117]

I personally think if someone enters your home without your consent or without a warrant then what happens to them is of no consequence. Being a UK citizen who had 6 youths break into my flat and make themselves at home and them not listening to me when I insisted they leave and having my phone in the front room they subsequently barged into and stole, I had to wait in terror and fear for my safety and hope somebody in my building rang the police. The laws in this country are honestly a travesty. if someone was to do that again I would pick up the first weapon to hand and only stop until they stopped moving. thankfully somebody did call the police and the offenders were arrested, however they were not charged and were released with no consequences. if I had stabbed one and killed one that night and the other 5 were arrested and charged maybe we wouldn't have little miscreants running around doing this kind of stuff for views. the UK police and law have only their selves to blame for this absolute joke a society

[@landscapedetective4064]

"And exactly how many times did he fall out the window?" Detective Inspector Lestrade.

[@The_Greedy_Orphan]

I'd love to see the Mizzy American special, specifically either a castle or stand your ground state.

[@thefoolonthehill9862]

So it would be reasonable for a heavily disabled person to pick up something to defend themselves against a fully-abled attacker invading their home?

[@francis2811]

That lad is incredibly immature and unemployable. His so called pranks could cost him his life.

[@alistairmonro]

They need to stop calling him a prankster and call him a criminal.

[@cgsec2275]

He will have a hard time finding a real job when he realizes his pranks are not going to support him.

[@fine9375]

If a criminal values my possessions over his own heath, that's his own damn fault.

[@mungo75]

I would imagine most people's take in this is going to be the same: If there's an intruder in your house, your only concern is going to be your loved ones. The legality what happens next isn't going to be at the forefront of your mind.

[@keithdenton8386]

If I was on a jury I would side with the defendant even if he killed the intruder. Most reasonable people would .

[@seandavies666]

There was a case not so long ago where two people broke into a house and attacked a young lad and his mother with knives. The lad managed to wrestle to the knife from one assailant and killed him and wounded the other. If i remember clearly i think he was also injured himself. When it went to court the young lad was eventually cleared of all charges but only because the assailant that survived kept changing his story. His council stated afterwards that if it hadn't been for this he would most likely have been convicted and sent to prison. This would suggest that the idea of being able to use even proportionate force isn't guaranteed in a home situation.

[@saddaddrummer]

The little scrot may well have walked in, but he would have needed carrying out.

[@bluebellwood4287]

Dear BB, this video is relevant to a comment I made on one of your previous episodes regarding a home intruder many years ago. Where an elderly lady was attacked by said home intruder and her dog, a pet not a trained attack dog bit the intruder. He began proceedings to sue. I don't know the outcome. Can you make an episode please on the ramifications of such a happening and the rights or lack thereof of either persons. Blessings to you.

[@foreshame7370]

I didn't know 'jump-a-jew' was back in fashion. That takes me back...

[@jamesgraham6122]

So, being in my mid-70s, I'm expected to deter two drugged up morons who spend their off time working out on steroids and then having to hope that an eloquent and persuasive prosecution barrister doesn't convince a sympathetic jury that these two 'boys' were simply having a bit of fun ? Why not simplify it ? Anyone breaking into my home, they're now at my mercy. Simple answer, don't break into people's homes.

[@runswithcows]

Oh I thought the issue with Martin was the fact that the burglars were running away and therefore hardly a threat.

[@jonathanturnerrhyolite133]

As far as im concerned,you enter my home with evil intent,you put your life in your hands.

[@billnchris1]

I would do nothing, to stop my 50 kilo old time bulldog using him for a chew toy.

[@johnmore4155]

Have you noticed that the Gov NEVER ask the public's opinion on self defence?? My opinion is that: we should have the 2nd amendment: we should have the right to bear arms to protect ourselves and our family.

[@silverstreak1244]

Hey BBB we don't really need a guide to defend our homes if he walks in he don't walk out. period.

[@chrisardern4594]

Take whatever action needed to deal with the possible threat to yourself family or property.

[@jamjinn786]

Do whatever is necessary...just don't tell the police.

[@dcw1467]

They "SHOULDN'T be there in the first place.........Stay away or face the consequence

[@jacko717]

If someone comes into my house univited, all bets are off. Worry about the legal consequences later.

[@EliteRock]

The law in theory and practice seem to be two different things. When "Mizzy" was leaning into peoples' faces and asking them if they "wanted to die" and telling them he "could take them out right now" he was IMO inviting a swift 'Glasgow Kiss' to re-arrange his nose for him. Were that to happen and the Glasgow Kisser was arrested and prosecuted, and a recording was available for it to review (even just audio) then IMO a reasonable court would rule self-defence, but the law is an ass so ...

[@andycleary6209]

I would love to see him try that in Glasgow

[@The_Greedy_Orphan]

He knowingly went after people he knew wouldn't fight back. Look forward to his American special where he tries the same thing in a conceal and carry state.

[@danielriddell441]

No mention of not being allowed to drop a grand piano on them 👍

[@anuma6217]

Right hook and an uppercut first - questions later!

[@Rekaert]

I've never been satisfied with our self defence laws, especially when it comes to repelling a home invader. The citizen has to consider proportionality in a high-risk, very stressful situation, whereas an attacker intent on harm has no such shackle. The Tony Martin thing was an abomination of systemic failure and injustice. He'd been burgled multiple times, and the police had utterly failed to offer him any protection. The burglars he shot at were career criminals, which the justice system had failed to adequately deal with. The "system" had failed him completely, so he used a shotgun against the three criminals when he was again burgled. The 16 year old that he killed already had made 18 court appearances, and had managed to rack up a criminal record of 29 offences, some for theft and some for fraud, and was out on bail when he attempted to burgle Martin's farm. Still, the media and prosecution depicted him as an angel who just took a wrong step. Of his accomplices, the 30 year old had been in court 35 times and had been jailed three times for burglary, and once for wounding. The 34 year old getaway driver had been in court 52 times, and had been jailed twice for burglary. None of these three should have been on the streets in the first place, but because they were, Martin ended up having to defend his property, and was hauled to court. Martin was handed a murder sentence of life imprisonment, with minimum 9 years before parole, later reduced to 8. Nobody would have been killed if he had been left in peace, or if the system had done its job. Public outcry at this obscenity provided much of the motivation for an appeal to reduce his sentence to manslaughter, and he eventually served 3 years in prison.

[@guantou2520]

So; the court has ruled that he may not enter houses again for a period of 2 years .......... Can he then legally enter houses again ???

[@rogercude1459]

Back in the early 80s in my road two guys from the local Pub were going to really do a guy over in his house one had a Cricket bat the other a knife. Turned out the intended victim could look after himself an turned the Cricket bat on the two attackers both of which ended up in hospital! Funny thing about this Countrys law is the guy who defended himself Ended up in Prison not the Attackers..

[@JohnJackson-mn4ts]

Traps would be premeditated, which puts it in a totally different category.

[@hartley339]

The boys in prison gonna love those high cheek bones... 😮

[@Jafmanz]

I have a special thing handy for intruders. I will always assume they mean to harm my children in the most evil way possible and will swiftly render the threat null and void!

[@carlharrison3637]

I dont care what the law says. If he trespasses in my house with my family - that person IS NOT walking out with all limbs intact.

[@johnb6723]

A person's house and grounds should be considered to be their castle and bailey and that unlimited force should be allowed to be used to get rid of someone who has burglarised the house or doesn't leave the property when asked (except the emergency services carrying out their lawful duty, of course).

[@Halbared]

''Castle doctrine?'' I like that idea.

[@gordon861]

@@Halbared Not really, 'castle doctrine' has led to a number of kids in the US being shot on someone's porch when they were just lost, wrong house or looking for help.

[@fredmercury1314]

@@gordon861 So? Trespass is trespass. Your reasons for trespassing are irrelevant. You're either invited, or you're trespassing.

[@6whatnext]

The laws on preventing these situations happening in the first instance should be strengthened then innocent members of the public won’t need to protect themselves or their loved ones, why should someone walking down the street or sitting at home have to defend themselves and end up in the criminal justice system because of someone else’s behaviour ?

[@makerealitygreatagain8809]

Lol, it's called, "your country occupied". Do you really think the good guys won the war? We live in a new weimar republic, but in a lot of ways, its far worse.

[@Yukatoshi]

The moment someone without permission enters your own you have every right to repel them with extreme force if needed.

[@stevenh1195]

In USA you’d better not do that, bang bang.

[@ascelot]

Considering in USA, anything you do against a person of colour, media will twist it into a race crime.

[@rahjah6958]

Funny because burglars are more prominent in usa, especially in those “autonomous zones”

[@stevenh1195]

@rah Jan home invasion, not burglary. Burglaries occur when home is supposedly vacant. Do this in Texas or Alabama or New Mexico, you’re likely unalive.

[@pieterrosing6007]

in the USA all he'd have to do was jaywalk while black to bang bang. It's not an improvement

[@stevenh1195]

@ Pieter Rosing lol. You love the koolaid? Did it taste like stupidity? You drank so much? Your lies are boring.

[@phutureproof]

I live in quite a rough area, im not an aggressive dude honestly, but I do have a rather nasty hammer right behind my door such occasions

[@Rachel_M_]

Like I'm going to incriminate myself in your comments section 😂

[@firefly8464]

An articulate and insightful video as always. Thank you for posting 👍

[@stephenmudiecastles.2938]

The local forest near me still has room....

[@1MogJon]

If a person enters your home illegally without permission, then they, by their own action and intent, have left any 'human rights' they might have had outside when they crossed your property's boundary or dwelling's threshold.

[@fredbloggs5902]

Not according to British law (sadly).

[@skellertons113]

Mr BBB, the problem is that most people are not trained like yourself, in reasonable force. There will be four outcomes, get away from the danger, too little force, and you get your head kicked in or worse, just the right amount of force, which is legal, or...too much force caused by panic and you, the victim end up being the aggressor. Absolute minefield.

[@andrewmather9076]

I studied law at uni and always found the Martin case very difficult. Ultimately the burglars fled when they seen he was armed and both were pursued briefly and shot in the back (which was a major factor). That said if you've broken into my property and I catch you there I feel like I'm entitled to perceive the highest level of threat without any objective challenge - you've broken in with the intention of stealing from me, am I wrong to believe you may be armed (at the very least with the tools required to break in which could be used offensively) - therefore I do not think that the use of severe and/or deadly force in any circumstance whilst you are still on my property should attract any scrutiny from the police or the courts. You shouldn't have been there, end of story.

[@mathewgurney2033]

It doesn't matter if its in your house, if its a woman or an ethnic, they will get away with whatever they do.

[@fredmercury1314]

Yup. The natives of this land have no rights, especially if they're male.

[@dougaldouglas8842]

The police will make certain of that, the swisted beggars

[@mazyzazie4048]

It might be seen as not unreasonable to expect such a gratuitous invader to be carrying a knife. This might not be on show while he wanders about my house, smirking. My severe response might be grossly disproportionate if he was shown not to be carrying a knife. What then?

[@joyelmes7814]

Do they take into account that the homeowner would be alone, or a family with defenceless children. Whether they are female and the intruder male, which is the most likely scenario. How many intruders, as in Tony Martin case, he was outnumbered from the start. Whether a homeowner is disabled. It is not always a one on one situation, a male and male.

[@kevinedward6132]

UK law on intruders is so backward, if an intruder dies when breaking in it should be a case of "That's too bad" room temperature challenge award no further action taken against the homeowner.

[@mrflipmode]

*If he walked into my house he wouldn't be walking out*

[@c1p2d88]

I have a cast iron bar in a handy location. I also know Any number of remote locations in the countryside. I would assume no one would be looking for said perpetrator and that he doesn't put his intended targets in his diary...

[@mmartin4978]

If he goes to jail he might find his personal space invaded in the shower block, what a prank that would be

[@moominassasin3258]

It's a pity he didn't go in the wrong house before his arrest. Him being unable to walk again might dissuade others from it.

[@marklittler784]

Under normal circumstances house invaders intent on threatening or harming you in the UK are extremely rare many people can get the wrong impression if not consulting statistics.

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

I had a friend who was a veteran, he was stationed in Hereford. He was woken up by four men breaking into his home. He took them up on their offer to play but the fourth one ran away even though he waved to him with the shattered arm of the third man. The police arrived for a post play review but the only conscious one didn't want to comment. They never took him up on the rematch.

[@Tiz147]

What about if you were defending someone else. For example if you heard a person asking if someone wants to die and you acted on behalf of the (usually) weaker person being threatened?

[@nobodyspecial6267]

If someone comes into your home uninvited they forfeit their life.

[@brianhoskins1979]

8:20 obviously what I am about to say is purely personal opinion, and has no basis in law. But in my personal opinion, it's quite reasonable to continue to give chase to a person who entered your home uninvited with ill intentions. It is also reasonable to continue to attack said person, until they submit to you and then you can wait for the Police. But if they are running away, having already broken into your home, then they are trying to escape justice and in my opinion the person whose home was attacked has a reasonable demand for justice to be served under those circumstances. The piece of crap burglar, if he doesn't want to get attacked, can just submit and wait with the home owner for the Police. Otherwise, he's going to get what he's going to get. If he doesn't like it, perhaps stop breaking in to people's homes. I don't have much sympathy.

[@adrianfisher3349]

I take the position that if someone enters my home like that they pose a threat to my family. It is my duty to protect my family so I would do whatever was required to remove their ability to cause them harm. What action that includes would depend on how they responded to me but I would not be inclined to believe a single word they say, after all, they committed one crime by just entering my home.

[@tmiles807]

This is where I disagree with the law. To defend yourself is to make sure the person attacking can no longer attack you. If you hit someone they go down they can get up again. You cannot be unjustified when someone has come into your home to make sure they stay down, leaving them on the floor in your house and expecting Hollywood movie knockout to last as long as it takes to the police to arrive could be your final and fatal mistake. You do not know the strength of a home invader nor anything about them as nobody plans for their home to be invaded. Incapacitating someone in the heat of the moment should not require you to think about the damage done to someone who's taken their own responsibility to come into your home and hurt you and/ or your family. This country is a joke. Wasting your time in court arguing you used reasonable force when all you thought about at the time was protecting yourself or the people you love from an unprovoked attack.

[@jules2545]

Whats teh old saying, come to my house, feck around and find out.

[@rather_be_a_cat]

Ok. What do you think of this? A solicitor office was being burglarised and they discovered the offender was gaining entry through the chimney, so they had the chimney bricked up. Then when the offender next tried to make entry, due to the bricks he got trapped and died. Knowing they had comparatively built a trap by blocking off the exit whilst leaving open the entrance should they be held responsible?

[@Rotherhamvanman]

If you were in bed and you heard noises down stairs and had a (decorative sword) upstairs and met them coming upstairs and took their head off, would it be reasonable? You didn’t know how many invaders there are, what weapons if any they were carrying and what they wanted to do to you?

[@TheMancMod01]

If he entered my house, I would have acted first and asked questions later.

[@yvonnesmith2115]

The little snotter picks easy targets

[@paulbembridge9239]

If he invaded my property, especially if my wife and daughter were home. My take on it would be that I don't know who he is and I don't know if he's armed, and in that case I'd rather be judged by 12 people in court than carried by 6 people to my grave. He wouldn't be walking out, and that's for sure.

[@Evermoregreen23451]

Why ask the question? If for whatever reason you were personally involved in a similar situation this would be presented in court as evidence.

[@joebloggs5318]

Need to bring back capital punishment. Has a 100% success rate in preventing crimes.

[@fatrick5004]

Crazy really. The law should be "enter my home ilegally, without my permission and your life is forfeit". Anything less is a joke.

[@Stevo_YouTube]

If a stranger says, "Do you want to die?" there is no way of knowing whether they intend to kill you. Random killings happen all the time. I would have to take that as a genuine threat on my life. If I couldn't easily get away I would have to at the very least incapacitate that stranger for long enough to give me time to escape. If he ends up dead and I get charged with murder then I would have to plead not guilty, get a good lawyer and hope that a jury would see sense. If they don't and I end up in jail then at least I'm alive. If a person breaks into your house at night then there's a good chance that no one knows they were ever in your house so if you do kill them you're better off just making the body disappear and keeping your mouth shut.

[@bucky7162]

I wouldnt have even told him to get out of my house I would have immediately attacked him, ANYONE entering my home uninvited can expect the same.