How Does the MacBook Pro Notch Work? - Krazy Ken's Tech Talk

[@ComputerClan]

👋Hey guys! Here's the notch remover I used in the episode: itecheverything.com/no-tch Stay tuned for another episode this week, and much more to come! 🔔 Update about the right-side menu bar icons: originally I said you can approximately fit 16 icons plus the clock day and time, but it turns out I was using a scaled resolution (which matched my previous Mac). So with the default scale setting, you can fit several more without running out of room! Also, at the default scale setting, my Photoshop menus DO NOT collide with the notch after all! It only happens when I use my familiar setting. (The default resolution makes things too small for me… oh gosh… I sound old??)

[@ahoj113]

A notch on a laptop :/

[@kyrzixxi]

wow someone already made a extension to remove the notch

[@Turbs94945]

Are you guys still working on Computer Showdown

[@Aves_1]

@@ahoj113 i mean, it gives you the screenspace previously taken up by the menu bar by moving the bar into the bezel. Think of it not as the camera entering the screen and instead of the menu moving into the bezel

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

If you make the desktop color completely black or a dark color and hide the menu bar in settings it will leave just a black strip all the way across the top that's what I did to play around with it since you can not drag apps above the stupid notch to fill the entire screen. That's the best you can do. I hope this helps anyone. No app needed.

[@Adam.Robert]

Top notch video, Ken. 😂 All kidding aside: this video is the most comprehensive video I've seen regarding the notch. I like that you walked through the different options like in system preferences and showing where the option is to open apps so that the menu bar sits below the top of the screen.

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you : )

[@RedMageGaming]

The fact that they bordered off the upper corners so the mouse doesn't just hide out in the invisible space beyond the rounded edges is nice. But you can hide your mouse under the notch, so that's a thing. Still don't like it, would have preferred to just have bezels up there, or just keep the menu bar on screen at all times if the notch has to exist.

[@rrp6405]

the last thing where it put black stip background pretty much does this, looks good

[@soggyflipp1810]

I agree but you only get that inconvenience when you are ACTUALLY looking for it... The notch will seldom interfere with any stuff you are doing on your MacBook.

[@RedMageGaming]

@@soggyflipp1810 it’s distracting, my adhd brain focuses on it. At least it wasn’t a hole punch in the screen for the camera to poke through.

[@ArtiePenguin1]

The mouse is likely still able to hide in the notch so that non-notched external displays still behave normally. Otherwise on an external display, the mouse would appear to always jump when it is at the top center of the screen. A lot of people tend to use their laptops docked most of the time, so that would affect a sizeable number of users.

[@joemck85]

Hiding the mouse in it can be a feature. The default Windows mouse cursors are "active" at the very top left pixel, so if you have a video player or whatever that fails to hide the cursor, you can put it in the bottom right corner and you only lose one pixel, and it's black. On macOS, unless they've changed it since I used it last, the default cursors' "active" spot is just inside the outline, so you can't hide it as well in a corner. But now you can hide it completely in the notch.

[@startedtech]

I still would've preferred an extra couple mm on the top bezel. And also if they were gonna have one regardless, I still can't comprehend why they made the notch so big for just a webcam. It doesn't matter if it's "for face ID in the future". Its not there now, so it's pointless to be that large.

[@JuneNafziger]

It’s not! Having more space allows for a better webcam because it lets them have a bigger aperture size and let more light in, they also can have a higher resolution that way

[@Renuclous]

The „it’s for faceid in the future“ is not completely stupid from a marketing perspective. Imagine the shittalk and memes when the implement a small notch now and make it bigger in a future iteration. People and tech reviewers would lose their collective shits about that crap 🙄 I also don’t really see the problem so many people have with notches in general. It’s still „additional“ screen space on the sides, not „stolen“ in the middle since the real estate below it is already bigger than before and I can‘t deny that I personally find non uniform display borders kinda more interesting anyway 😅 infinitely better than a black spot hole punch anyway.

[@dustinnrussell]

@@Renuclous exactly what i was going to say.

[@shadmansudipto7287]

@@Renuclous far better not to have a notch at all. This is where your money goes when you buy an apple device. Imagine the money they spent on R&D to cut out that part of the display and make the software changes.

[@longlivechina7538]

How often does anyone use a webcam? So dumb

[@Aves_1]

Glad to see someone being reasonable about the notch instead of just immediately complaining

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you : )

[@jdatlas4668]

I think it’d be far less annoying if they’d made them menu bar solid black, there’s actually a tool to do that but it should have been the default. Just makes it far less noticeable.

[@Aves_1]

@@jdatlas4668 id rather it be an option than the default. I like having color around the notch on my phone

[@Shadow__X]

I saw someone on Twitter rant about the menu bar items actually intersecting with the notch, i wonder how they got that result

[@starletscarlet]

Probably they had one of the "non standard" ones like istat menu

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@starletscarlet which istats already provided a fix, but people will continue to bitch and moan like cry babies.

[@13StJimmy]

It happened to Snazzy Labs too Idk what apps he was using specifically though

[@TheiTE]

Great Video, quick and simple! Thank you so much for the mention, I highly appreciate it! :)

[@ComputerClan]

My pleasure 😇

[@nicolaselhani]

You answered every single one of the questions I had about the notch that so many other tech youtubers just didn’t! Awesome video. Subscribed!

[@rickkarrer8370]

I'm in IT, and manage multiple businesses, with various cloud services, VPN software, and management tools running. I have 23 items in my menu bar, including a smaller battery meter and clock than Appel's default ones. I'm basically screwed unless they think the notch in the near future.

[@UpLateGeek]

Bartender. Or you could just buy a dell or something.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

You're too professional and mature to use apple stuff. I'd just go with a much superior PC.

[@rickkarrer8370]

@@iHaveTheDocuments lol. I believe the term “superior PC” is used as an example of the word oxymoron in the dictionary 🤣.

[@OGBhyve]

Wow! You and Snazzy Labs are the only people I've seen answering real questions people have about the product. Most reviewers have only done a pretty poor job at benchmarking. Great job finding the workaround per app for the notch while we wait for apps to get updated to account for it. Haven't seen anyone else cover this!

[@4444aa]

2:11 I want this but as a permanent, system wide display setting. Also, I wonder what screenshots look like. Will the notch be there, or will you see a menu bar behind it?

[@ComputerClan]

^ exactly

[@thejpkotor]

It’s important to remember the pixel address space still exists, they are just removed or masked out.

[@thejpkotor]

I think the thing that really gets me as a 3D designer is not the notch, but the fact that it exists AND the display/display housing are not symmetrical on the top and bottom. We have round corners on top, square on the bottom. Also the lower bezel near the hinge is HUGE by comparison. It’s just visually off… I will say the one thing I think they fixed from the iPhone design is at least the round display corners are concentric now. The iPhone outer radius of the screen corners is slightly bigger than the phone body.

[@nslouka90]

Notch gonna lie, it’s a bit annoying having that noticeable black space there but kudos to the devs that jumped on that and already found a nifty workaround.

[@benjidaniel5595]

THANK YOU! You’re the first tech channel I’ve found that adequately addressed the notch with full screen apps, etc

[@UpLateGeek]

Now I'm really curious to see what they do with the next generation of air. I feel like the rear of the display curves down to a much thinner edge than on the new pro, so I'll be interested to see if they shrink the bezel of the display without making edge of the screen thicker.

[@AnthonyBaumgartner72]

0:36 Almost looked like there were two notches with the black bar on the computer screen. Boy, I wouldn't want that! 😂

[@JonValdezX]

I have so many questions regarding the notch. Thanks to you, you've answered all of them.

[@raykreiger4123]

Would like to see that comparison with your 2013 MacBook pro

[@ahoj113]

That’d be a cool video!

[@ComputerClan]

I was thinking of doing an incredibly unfair speed test / display quality test, haha. Stay tuned… ; )

[@Nautilat0r]

I beg to differ... snazzy labs proved in a video the notch interferes with apps, the consistency of how the menubar is treated when apps aren't in full screen mode compared to when they are shows the menubar can be one smaller width wise or 2. the menubar needs to be dark period because that gap is going to annoy people even when they get use to it, it'll still be their regardless if people get use to the small gap.

[@ComputerClan]

1. Quinn was using unoptimized software. Remember, developers did not have any real warning about the notch. Software updates will fix stuff. And I haven't had any of the issues he had, personally. 2. The gap does not annoy me. Period. But you have a choice to black it out, as you know! So if you want to, you can. : )

[@lukajovanovski2598]

This might be a stupid thing to ask, but as someone who has never owned a Mac before but would like to purchase one, would a MacBook with a notch be a bad first buy since it’s different from previous MacBooks?

[@Фигуристы]

Thnx from Russia! All questions answered :)

[@jerrylu532]

Is it possible to shrink the screen vertically only without changing the width? If that's possible then it would be great to hide the notch completely without make the bazels on both sides (left and right) buffer (unlike the scale to fit below camera setting)

[@Mainyehc]

By the way, I just tested the new MBPs at a store, and I realized that the mouse will *always* jump to the other side of the notch when you click any menubar item, even if the rightmost one is to the left of the notch. Apple is erring on the side of caution, i.e. whenever there’s an interaction with the menubar, boom, you get a jump.

[@djazz0]

GNOME on this would be really awkward. The clock and date is in top center XD

[@NewRepublicMapper]

I Guess, they will be following what iPhone X Era Layout at the Top soon, like Clock and Date in Top Center and the Running apps are in Gnome Dock, Same Goes at Newer Ubuntu Versions

[@GoobbueXIV]

Isn't Linux a lot harder to run on macs nowadays? So at least it won't be a common issue.... though I do wonder how long until they'll implement a setting anyway specifically for this scenario

[@NewRepublicMapper]

@@GoobbueXIV Some Devs are finding their Way how to install Linux on Apple Sillicon Macs

[@vihaansingha8340]

YOOOO KEN! YOURE FINALLY BACK .Nice video! Keep it up as always

[@ComputerClan]

Finally back?? My last episode was only 10 days ago!

[@zoeycloudvarodi4354]

Hello! A bit of an oddly specific question. How can I keep the notch while on safari? It seems like with the M3 max they made the notch hide automatically when a tab is full screen. I ve been trying to figure out how to turn this off and keep the notch intact but it seems to not work. I d be glad if you d answer this. Your video was very coherent about explaining the notch and that s why I took the liberty to ask you. Thank you! Wish you well!

[@jus1us]

Is there an Option to undo "scale to fit below" option once activated since it disappears? Thanks in advance

[@aedan2003]

Well I was *notch* expecting a lil bonus video like this.

[@domthebomgaming5356]

What's the trackpad like on it?

[@ComputerClan]

Works great for me : ) Super smooth and the haptic feedback really makes it feel like you're "clicking" even though it's a solid surface.

[@hbbaxter9199]

what should happen when you have more icons on the right side than can fit? I got my 14 inch today and i stuggled finding some icons becuase they disappeared behind the notch. honestly this feels like a bug. is this normal?

[@RyanMartinez]

What was that phone from Huawei that has a pin hole camera in the middle of the screen? So when you were looking at someone on screen it was like you were looking right at them? I wonder if Apple's going to do that as well.

[@badwolf1984]

As a Non Mac Guy, And a windows 11 hater, But I dig the Notch! They have taken out a wasted space and added it to the top bar where the notch live's if they brought this to windows 10 with the Task bar on top and did some notch magic, i`m sold on this! I even put up with a janky upside down all black windows taskbar.

[@thejpkotor]

Not too bad, but what I don’t understand is if they could make the mouse follow the screen edges, why not offer an option to have SW have the mouse follow the notch? One good thing I can think of is it’s a good place to hide the mouse during a presentation or demo, but how does that come across on a projector or TV?

[@michaelafcadio]

Can you please show more video of what happens with the notch and menu bar as you change the display resolution/scale? It looks like the menu bar size (height) is not changing when the scale changes so the notch continues to fill up most of the menu bar virtically, but it's difficult to see.

[@TheIceLeopard]

What about full screen videos? KZbin, Netflix, Hulu, etc.

[@ComputerClan]

Same thing as a typical full-screen app. It'll just black out any pixels that aren't needed.

[@prajulsahu9838]

One thing, I'm facing is, when I'm using any app full screen, I want to see that toolbar, so all the options around notch is a good idea, I get the whole screen as the workplace. But when I want to watch something on youtube or Netflix or any of the ott platform, the toolbar is still there, that kind of ruins the whole experience for me. Is there a solution?

[@SyCoREAPER]

While you aren't expressly condemning the noth0ch, this is a trend that shouldn't even be able to make it off the ground and die after one generation. Nobody likes it on phones so why apply it here? Either just make the bezel thicker or remove the Webcam. That Taskbar width of extra space isn't worth it. Not to mention that will kill gaming immersion

[@archivushka]

Yeah, this notch real strains me when I play solitaire in full screen

[@rodrigoherranz7927]

Just the video that I was looking for. Top👌

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you : )

[@Liggliluff]

This is how you should do a notch. Have the regular screen below, and push all system icons away from this area.

[@JohnWagenvoort]

I got rid of the notch by installing TopNotch and it works well with the native resolutions. However, I wanted my shiny new MBP 16 M1 Max to run at 1920x1200. I installed SwitchResX and set the res as mentioned. Then I went to accessibility and turned off transparency. Now my Mac desktop and menu bar looks like my old MBP 17. Slightly bigger bezel at the top but, sensational.

[@spontanioussponge]

That option to scale down screenspace per application is cool, can you do that system wide all the time? I hate thin bezels and round corners.

[@ComputerClan]

You cannot do it system wide, but if leave at least one app open (with the setting on) everything remains scaled down, even if you're in another app. However, in the macOS 12.0.1 update, I can't get the feature to work-despite the checkbox still being there. Perhaps it's a bug.

[@krystiano.610]

Saw somewhere on reddit saying that by using app to change resolution like RDM or SwitchResX you can permanently "disable" notch. Can't confirm this thou, still waiting for delivery.

[@stevenschmidt]

I have a question that nobody seems to address! How do you reset the display's resolution to be 16x10, thus not using the additional pixels at the top of the screen at all? Effectively removing the extra parts of the screen so that the menu bar sits below the notch? Is there a way to do that?!

[@ComputerClan]

Hmm. Interesting. I have not found a way to do that yet!

[@macinman]

How's the overall performance gains for you? I have an older late 2013 13" MBP like you, and I decided to have fun with it as a Test machine, put OpenCore Legacy patcher on it, and installed Monterey. Works quite well, and have not seen any rational reason yet as to why Apple dropped it from official support, and that's with several days of use trying everyday things on it, and some heavier tasks as well. I'd say it runs on par as Big Sur did.

[@ComputerClan]

Performance is insanely faster and the display quality is incredible.

[@macinman]

@@ComputerClan Sounds great. I'm waiting for the next generation of iMacs, or Mac Mini, as I prefer desktops to laptops at this point. Either way, as nice as the laptops sound, I'm sure the desktops will be even better.

[@lukas_FPV_X]

Me sitting here with my MacBook Pro 2019 16'' 🥲. But I was very sad when they removed the Touch Bar at the new Macs. Foto and Video editing is so nice with that.

[@atarixle]

Short and precise. Thank you!

[@andrew_sar]

Thank you for answering literally every question I had 🙌

[@ComputerClan]

My pleasure 😇

[@alexis0a]

I like the behavior of the notch on full screen mode, I use most of my apps on full screen, and having menus and time without move the pointer to top it's great

[@ComputerClan]

Agreed 👌

[@helikopter1231]

shame that the apps bounce back - i actually dont have an issue with the notch but would love to properly use that extra space - is there a trick to it?

[@ddemkoo]

Hey, cool quick video! :) Also I've got a question, is there a way to have the "scale to fit below the notch" effect, but without having any app opened? Just like that moment at 2:11

[@ComputerClan]

No, sorry : c I'm sure someone will figure out a hack for it-maybe a Terminal command.

[@ComputerClan]

@@xEqualsRandom huh. That probably could.

[@ddemkoo]

@@ComputerClan Thanks for the answer! :D Also, just specs wise, I'm thinking of getting myself the MacbookPro Max (64 GB ram). I currently own a 15 inch mid 2015, pretty much maxed out at its time, still runs like a beast (AMD Radeon R9 M370X, 16 GB 1600 MHz, 2.5 GHz processor) but the more stuff I make, the more I start to feel the hardware's limitations, and I feel like it's time to upgrade. I'm heavily into creative stuff, graphics design, 3D software (lots of gpu usage), movie editing, stuff that involves heavy graphics computation. What do you think, how big of a step up will the upgrade be?

[@ComputerClan]

@@ddemkoo that would be a hella awesome speed boost. If you can afford it, go for it.

[@blrryface]

No early access? :(

[@ahoj113]

Hello Member Person

[@ComputerClan]

Sorry, I kinda forgot about this one because it's an extra episode for the week! I'll give out early access for Thursdays episode! My apologies.

[@blrryface]

@@ComputerClan xd ok, this was still good content

[@blrryface]

@@ahoj113 hello!

[@mephustowest1876]

I'm not a professional but I do like the new innovations with the macbook pro 2021, would it be a good upgrade from pc for me?

[@ComputerClan]

I think so. : ) it finally convinced me to upgrade my notebook after 8 years! I have some more thoughts about it in the second half of this episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZTWkGRuf9CnhaM Let me know if you have any questions. 😇

[@gradygambrell7842]

do you think in the future the notch will just be a camera and little sensors like Samsung and Google's phones? Maybe for the iOS devices too?

[@brentsmithline3423]

Thanks for this clip. Think, hope Apple will in the near future under option give us another option to make the menu bar a black background like the no-tch shortcut does.

[@RealVCT]

Man this is some top notch content

[@NickandFerl]

what app boss that can make it dynamic?

[@rushilkisoon]

I didn’t see anyone else ask this… but why does the cursor go under the notch and not around it? Seems kinda strange that it goes around the corners but not the notch, when it it and “inaccessible”/“unusable” part of the display.

[@ComputerClan]

*in Shrek's voice* Good question.

[@alexismaxwellxx86]

Awesome stuff you can do in the Macbook :)

[@DevSpartan117]

Great video Ken, would love more videos on the new MacBook Pro they seem really interesting to know what you can do with them. 🙂

[@MarcBookPro]

Is there a setting (maybe in Accessibility) that makes the Menu Bar less tall? I'm not digging how thick the Menu Bar is on these.

[@ComputerClan]

The menu bar has to stay thick to preserve the familiar 16:10 aspect ratio. I do not know of any way to change it significantly. However, it appears to adjust slightly when you used a scaled resolution (under the Display preferences). Oddly enough… I think I accidentally filmed this whole episode while using a scaled resolution. Oops.

[@MrIDGAF]

Can the ‘scale to fit below built-in camera’ be automatically turned on for every application installed on the MacBook

[@ComputerClan]

You will need to check the box in the Get Info window for each app. Unless someone else finds a Terminal hack, I'm currently not sure of any method.

[@serang]

What about fullscreen game and video?

[@ComputerClan]

Video works the same way as full-screen apps. With games, I'm not sure yet (frankly I don't play games, sorry! I don't think I have any that work on Apple silicon. RIP.)

[@HackDaBox]

I’d love to see how it goes with older versions of Mac OS that don’t natively support the notch as I often run old versions of Mac OS on my macs.

[@unicodefox]

You can't install versions of macOS older than what the Mac originally shipped with, so, sadly, you cannot run Mojave on any new Mac.

[@HackDaBox]

@@unicodefox damn

[@My1xT]

is there a way for applications to say "I want that notch space" even in full screen?

[@ComputerClan]

Not that I have seen yet.

[@issacman1870]

What about full screen apps with the menu bar hidden?

[@ComputerClan]

The menu bar area just appears black when it's hidden.

[@simplyalonso]

Hmmm. Will it work with Intel apps? (just a little question, to see if any games or old apps will not be left for dead)

[@FennecTECH]

Does the cursor get caught on the notch?

[@ComputerClan]

I've never experienced that. : )

[@eimantas314-rblx]

I think next MacBooks should maybe have (just on my mind): A pop-up notch.

[@brmrrw1]

Thank you.

[@ComputerClan]

My pleasure 😇

[@cmhoppy4146]

Hey Krazy Ken, could you maybe explore a way to get rid of a memory bug in Monterey? It says that the computer keeps running out of memory, while also stating that apps are using more memory than there is in the MacBook. I don't know why this is happening, please help.

[@ScottLahteine]

As weird as it sounds, some people have reported that restoring the mouse pointer back to normal black-and-white instead of using custom colors can fix this issue. That doesn't seem to fix it for everybody, so there's still some investigating to do.

[@OmerFlame]

How does it behave in Split Screen?

[@ComputerClan]

Same thing as full-screen apps. The top row of pixels black-out.

[@OmerFlame]

@@ComputerClan Thanks for replying! P.S: I saw you comment on a Touhou meme one day, I know you got into the rabbit hole in the past!!!

[@Nanomaroni]

What about too many menu icons. For Example in SnazzyLabs Video with the App he used?

[@ComputerClan]

Some glitches will happen with certain third-party apps / applets because the developers truly didn't have time to optimize for this new design, but now they do have time! Software updates will come out and things will be fine. : )

[@lopeo2324]

If you force click while moving the mouse, the cursor will jump to the other side of the notch, and if the cursor is underneath, it will pop out.

[@ComputerClan]

Oh! Interesting. I turn off all the force click stuff, but I can try that later.

[@senortilla7239]

Great video!

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you : )

[@borgranta61103]

The menu adjustment makes full screen including full screen KZbin viewing more enjoyable.

[@Exxonn_]

Finally a great video

[@justNGC604]

What happens if you assign this compatibility mode to a random app and leave that open in the background (hidden, minimized, etc.) -- can you scale the notch out of existence permanently?

[@ComputerClan]

Yes : ) At least in macOS 12.0. In the 12.0.1 update, I can't get the feature to work at all-despite the checkbox being on. Weird! Maybe it's a bug.

[@bobmass]

Hello Clan I actually do like the notch , I just bought the Mac but the issue I've been going full screen the last 3 days and ever windows was going really full screen without having the bar on top. Now the bar is there all the time . I don't like it . I have tried to go on Docs & Menu bar to selection the automatic option at the both but it still there . any ideas ?

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

If you make the desktop color completely black or a dark color and hide the menu bar in settings it will leave just a black strip all the way across the top that's what I did to play around with it since you can not drag apps above the stupid notch to fill the entire screen. That's the best you can do. I hope this helps anyone. No app needed.

[@jandurek]

Hey, Ken, I've got a question, what happens with the menubar when you set non-native resolution with something like EasyRes (or just straight up the full native unscaled resolution of the screen)?Apple configured the menubar height for each scaled resolution option, but I doubt they did that for every possible resolution that you can set. I like things very small, so I've been using the non-native unscaled "one step below the full resolution of the screen" on all retina macbooks I owned because even the "more space" scaled option doesn't give me nearly enough space.

[@ComputerClan]

Good question. I have not tested that yet! I can maybe try that soon.

[@ComputerClan]

Answer! The menu bar still extends a few pixels below the notch (less pixels than default). The text in the menu bar and everything else in the UI gets really small.

[@jandurek]

@@ComputerClan oooh that's great news. Now there's not much blocking me from getting one of these bad boys. Except, well, the availability.

[@whamer100]

this is the only notch im decently okay with, its not really in my way unlike with how small phones are im sticking with my framework laptop though

[@ottf24]

Good info 👍👍

[@tux_the_astronaut]

My biggest question is for games with ui elements at the top of the screen Like how will game devs be anle to prevent their ui from being blocked My idea at lest is to make a setting to move the ui at the top of the screen down below the notch but maybe there is another way

[@ComputerClan]

I'm assuming the same full-screen app behavior will be inherited, but I have not tested games yet. I'll have to see if I can use any of my existing games under Rosetta.

[@voltspc9394]

How good is the mini led stuff? I know on my ipad pro there is alot of blooming, does that happen around the text at the top, or does it actually look completly black except for the white text

[@ComputerClan]

I have noticed no blooming. The display is beautiful and the blacks are REALLY black. It's amazing and smooooooth.

[@voltspc9394]

@@ComputerClan damn, if I could find stock I would get a maxed out 16” right now

[@cooper1095]

funny, the aspect ratio of the resolutions on the 2021 pros r 14:9 tho

[@rafaelbitencourt8561]

That's what I was wondering about, apps like Adobe's with loads of menus, what would happen...

[@ComputerClan]

Thankfully, if you run your display at the default scale, it won't happen. I was using my display in a slightly larger scale because that's what my eyes are used to.

[@RonLaws]

the 'Notch' is an annoying trend that needs to die. i honestly hate it aesthetically and conceptually. I'd rather just have the bezel, the arbitrary intrusion in screen space just triggers me like having something hanging over the top of your screen.

[@emmettPlaysRoblox]

I like how Apple avoids the word notch True depth camera Built in camera But tbh the word moth sounds basic for marketing

[@O.V.]

That notch is hideous. I don't see anything wrong with a phone notch, but a computer notch is a hard pass

[@ahoj113]

Cool!

[@TheGlitchyMario]

I don’t have opinions on the notch. It’s just kinda… there

[@michaemia]

Get rid of the notch and place a dynamic island.

[@neddreadmaynard]

Dear Prof Krazy Not being a Mac user, all the news I was hearing was about this horrific notch. Now you have explained it, it looks like a bloody good piece of design. You ain't crazy, the bloody internet is.

[@ComputerClan]

Beautifully put. 😇

[@MarsorryIckuatuna]

No nonsense video - perfect execution! Nicely done 👏👏

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you : )

[@nR-kv7xo]

this i probably the most interesting videos on the new macs. This is all I cared about really before. Not I don't care that much, still bothers me but it ain't that bad.

[@ComputerClan]

Thank you : )

[@centrossect001]

BUT WHAT IF YOU HIDE THE MENU BAR IN SYSTEM PREFERENCES??? THEN THE WHOLE TOP OF THE DISPLAY IS WASTED!!!!!

[@allansh828]

why on earth does it the notch need to be so wide?

[@ComputerClan]

The episode explains it : ) There's a lot of components in there.

[@joawesome2319]

I agree. The notch can still be smaller, slimmer and thinner. The sensors inside aren’t that huge at all. I feel like they did this on purpose so in the future, they can come with a newer Mac and present a smaller notch on stage

[@slob5041]

You do know Steve Jobs would’ve demanded an alternate solution, like a keyboard camera or something

[@SWinxyTheCat]

Honestly I think the no-notch utility would make me ignore the notch completely. I think I'm completely okay with getting the new mac pro now.

[@ComputerClan]

Do it! 😇

[@qpol]

i’d 100% buy this if it weren’t for M1X

[@s.m.mediaproductions5304]

NotchBook Pro

[@lazer8776]

You know what would be even better? if they got rid of the notch and gave the users even more space