How does Ultra Instinct Work? - An Extensive and Overly Complicated Guide

[@superexclusive452]

True UI isn’t even a new form. It’s the same Omen state just being used differently (not like an angel, but like a Saiyan). Plus it’s more compatible with his natural base instincts compared to a Super Saiyan form. I think the final evolution for Goku’s Ultra Instinct will be Goku fighting so freely in his base form (similar to his fight vs Uub) that there will never be a need for him to transform into Super Saiyan for a power boost again. He will be so in touch with his natural instincts that he’ll be able to output the most effective and efficient use of his power that Super Saiyan forms wouldn’t be able to do (since they’re a set multiplier and they drain stamina). Then when the time comes for a last resort Goku can switch into MUI temporarily to seal the deal.

[@laneplain107]

would be cool if they brought back full power super saiyan/grade 4 for this

[@MemeinAndDreamin]

Wrong

[@PokemonProfessorNebula]

This! The peak of the Saiyans is not a Super Saiyan, all the power you need is always within you, Super Saiyan is just an easy means to tapping into it.

[@orbboom6119]

Doubt that will ever happen, the transformations are too iconic, having just base goku all the time sounds impossible tbh

[@jersont.3339]

​​@@orbboom6119seeing how daima is existing they could make things go outside of the original canon and just go for different spin offs, at this point it barely matters what DB does it will (mostly) sell

[@Arandoman616]

I think part of the reason that Goku was in so much agony after dropping out of UI is BECAUSE of the rage boost against Jiren. Think about it. UI is all about Goku suppressing his emotions. When Goku gets extremely rageful like he did in the anime, it causes an imbalance in the form.

[@toughmangaming8275]

This is a fair interpretation!

[@pasoking2483]

Fair but a better explanation is that the rage boost, in a form that was characterized, at that time ,by Goku surpassing his limits just stacked on the damage and fatigue when it finally ran out. Yet, your explanation makes lots of sense as well and can also be a component.

[@Jacob1451_Kapnobatai]

That SHOULD be canon to the mechanics of Ultra Instinct as that fits with the logic of the form.

[@dankerbell]

i like this interpretation too

[@gentlepeeps3351]

@@pasoking2483yeah I think the toei staff misinterpreted what toriyama wanted mui to hence the rage boost

[@ShockedTaiLung]

The true ultra instinct was the friends we made along the way

[@toughmangaming8275]

True, Real, and based

[@SageFighters]

😂😂😂🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@SonkDoesStuff]

get out

[@MarioSonicBee]

I love True Ultra Instinct as a concept. I know most people don’t like it cause it contradicts what Ultra Instinct is all about but I feel that’s kinda the point. This is supposed to be GOKU’s version of Ultra Instinct. I always love when Goku forgoes a stronger form for something more comfortable, efficient and easy to work with, Mastered SSJ being a good example. I saw a comment before that I feel it’s the perfect analogy, it’s like in a fighting game where MUI is the best character in the game but TUI is your main. Sure the best character is obviously better than your main but you know your main more and are more comfortable meaning you can use it a lot better and could pull off techs that could even rival the best character. Plus I feel it helps with the problem of Power Creep. Instead of making UI useless and needing something stronger TUI is objectively not as powerful and since it’s Goku’s version it’s bound to have flaws that MUI doesn’t so when it fails it feels a bit more right than seeing a Godly technique loose to some bums who wished to get to that level. But that’s what I think sorry for the ramble I naturally have a lot to say lol

[@dankerbell]

i like it a lot too, goku having his own ui and what he's working towards is a perfectly saiyan version of it to get stronger rather than just blindly getting stronger is great and helps reassure that goku won't get another transformation beyond this, just better and better uses of ui until he has it permanently in all forms

[@ShaudL]

I think you misinterpreted True UI vs PUI. White UI in the manga is the pinnacle of his UI capabilities, the issue is its very anti-saiyan. Vs Gas Goku's heart was blazing and he's not able to properly cast it aside to use the full capabilities of the white haired form. So that means he's losing potential strength he could have in that form because of that. PUI has no shortcuts, either have a balanced and calm heart or don't get the full capabilities. Goku uses True UI, which was confirmed to JUST be UI Omen, as a funnel for UI but this time with his own interpretation. No clouded mind, just a focus on his battle. True UI is just omen with no downsides of his heart (and some zenkai's stacked on top + saiyan rage giving some strength), while Granolah arc we actually don't see full strength UI besides at the very beginning, just a mentally nerfed one the entire time. This is why we were able to get a moment where True UI, was stronger than a previous activation of PUI -- because PUI is nerfed. Scale would be: PUI (regularly) > TUI > PUI (nerfed) > Omen Also note if Goku's mental was together to make UI to function this would be the actual scale: PUI > TUI = Omen Tidbit- A thing about TUI being goku's emotions is that it still follows UI' rules of automatic response, just this time it's based in GOKU's responses. You hit him in the head? His body responds instantly with a giant mouth blast. Shows the difference between Omen and TUI's fighting style.

[@notme7716]

Exactly right, thank you for saving me typing this. Still a good video though

[@MinhLe19303]

I'm not sure about the MUI has always stronger than TUI and Goku use that stronger strength before, since there's no one pointed out that Goku's MUI got weaker than normal and Vegeta said that his MUI stay the same. I always interpret that Goku doesn't know how to improve his UI further to beat Gas and his uncalm heart only prevent that further and also decrease MUI time limit and accuracy. TUI was his answer to channel more strength through while still using UI, fit with his Saiyan nature. I do think that by the time of Super Hero, Goku improved MUI to the point it become the better option even if he uses TUI.

[@Natie-vw8vt]

Exactly like beerus

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

Fun fact but the air pressure wave move Goku used on Chi Chi is called Kiai the user just channels their ki to create a shockwave in the air and every character can use it, the more popular example would be goku pushing Burter and Jiece away on Namek. As for MUI Goku vs Beast Gohan how I view it is Goku either is calm enough that his emotions aren't as high for TUI to give him more of a power up than standard MUI would (since this is a spar and not a life and death battle) or during the timeskip from the end of granolah to the Goku trained to use MUI in a better way so it wouldn't consume his stamina as much (I say this since there was no mention of stamina during or after the spar) meaning MUI's accuracy outweighs any potential power up TUI would grant.

[@jersont.3339]

I think he just wanted to show his more refined form to gohan since we don't know if goku was able to find a way to better his TUI or if he can maintain it without being inspired like it happened in the moro saga by his memories

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

@@jersont.3339 Apparently on the official dragon ball website it says goku was using full power so I can only assume MUI became his strongest form during the timeskip

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

*"the more popular example would be goku pushing Burter and Jiece away on Namek."* IMO Future Trunks blowing away Imperfect cell with his kiai is the most iconic use of it in Z. In GT, its Baby Vegeta "air punching" goku with kiai was a unique way of using kiai too. In DBS Jiren stopped Hit's last resort attack with kiai.

[@Supahdenning]

Kiai is shouting. Creating a shockwave by punching is not necessarily kiai if it doesn't involve a shout.

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

@@Supahdenning Kiai is producing shockwaves with Ki you can look it up, it's not exclusively shouting.

[@Luna_nasar]

Ui is actually teased back in battle of gods, In ssj 3 he auto dodges a attack that is pointed out he did not mean to dodge.

[@dzigayu4944]

The best thing to come out of Super and it's not even close

[@rataqueso2307]

Only in anime and a bit of the manga but the manga are doing ultra ego and instinct so dirty

[@_kelso9959]

Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo

[@Probably-Spider-Juan]

MY GLORIOUS KZbinR IS FINALLY BACK

[@Aibadenshi]

I like to think that. After the initial Black and White Ultra instinct, the Black and White form after that can evolve and diverse into their own sub set of power. Where Black is imperfect and lacking strength, but you can stack other transformations on it due to Goku still have his emotions. So Black is more less treated like the God form and can be stack to be more powerful. While White is used 100% everything goku have for a with every output of energy being ultraly precise. Like when he punch someone it pour everything into that in an instant and when someone attack him like Moro did all of his power goes straight to defend and block the area that was hit with all the energy output Goku have.

[@M.Blaze240]

Loved the video and the breakdown/ explanation of UI. There's just one thing that irked me about the vid: Luffy using Gum Gum Spaceout/Airhead. It was a meme made by One Piece fans to rag on DB fans about how UI isn't an original form that has been taken far too seriously by people. It's explained a lot better in the anime that Luffy stops thinking and lets his body just do whatever. The difference is that Luffy's is more like a blade of grass in the wind. You can't really easily hit it because the wind pressure made by whatever you're using will just make it move out of the way like a falling leaf. It also explains Luffy's movements while Enel is trying to attack Luffy and why his Mantra (early idea of Observation Haki) doesn't work because Luffy isn't consciously moving, the wind is moving him. And as far as I can recall, he has never used it again since because now he has SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS (unlocked actual precognition in the form of Observation Haki) SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS. Much love from a massive One Piece fan!

[@katorro]

haha dangit. i was gonna do a vid like this. beat me to it! ima have to watch this while at work. keep up the grind!

[@speedbeyondlogic]

Beerus asks if ui is the best trick that goku has right now and whis says it would seem so. Beerus right now question and the reply to that being seem so from whis is something to take note of. And while in ui goku can also shift his vitals, hit harder/sharper/faster and his moves become more fine tuned as he fights. Also as goku was fighting jiren, goku got a speed boost mid fight. Along with it also being a stat boost his body senses danger, moves on its on and faster than his brain can process incoming attacks, his body automatically becomes sturdier as necessary, his vitals are not able to be perceived, he can't be sensed when he moves and attacks, his attacks exploit openings, he can also attack while in ui and isn't limited to just evading and goku can use ui while unconscious. Ui is more than just the body moving on its own without needing to think and process anything.

[@jordanglasper1064]

It was not simply a speed boost. Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku received a Zenkai Boost Mid Fight. Essentially, M.U.I. Goku’s Power Level: Power/Strength, Speed, Stamina, Endurance, Durability, “ki” Energy & Battle Intellect skyrocketed much higher. Essentially, M.U.I. Evolves to make The Practitioner to become superior to their opponent. When their opponent is equal to M.U.I. or slightly Stronger. The Perfect State of Elevation.

[@speedbeyondlogic]

@@jordanglasper1064 yeah I agree. Ui is an interesting concept. Considering there's a hierarchy to its mastery with goku being at the bottom totem pole of it, yet goku's potential with it can at least reach the gp's level what goku has shown with it at his current level is impressive. I think it's also telling by itself that toyotaro had to nerf ui for goku because he was too strong during the moro arc. But you also have it being referred to as the ultimate form, it's a technique that the gods haven't been to master, something beerus himself used against the other gods, the preferred technique of the angels who are stronger than the gods and the gp has higher mastery over it than the angels. Also before the wishes of being the strongest were made from granola then by elec for gas, goku because of ui was called the strongest mortal in the universe.

[@Jose-dh1xz]

This channel is an underrated gem of the Dragon Ball community

[@Probably-Spider-Juan]

MY GOAT HAS RETURNED

[@Mattimation01]

the way i see it is that the silver haired form IS stronger, but goku cant use it well, making -sign- stronger for goku until he gets better at the silver form

[@juanelcrack1803]

YOU'RE BACK!!

[@kyro8559]

goatman goating has returned

[@averagejoe8573]

I love your videos because they help me understand dragon ball bs I could never comprehend and it therefore fuels my hyper fixation good video 👍

[@Jodipo]

He's back!!! Everyone rejoice!!! PS - Could you do a video about Dragon Ball's demons? It would fit well with Daima revolving around the Demon Realm.

[@toughmangaming8275]

A video about the demons would be pretty cool. I think it might be best to wait until after Diama comes out because, for the most part, most of the video would be talking about Heroes content given that within all the "canon" stuff is pretty niche. But thank you for the support and suggestion, I really appreciate it!

[@6godzingisgodme7o-dynamicd3]

Imma summarize my interpretation of Ultra Instinct thruout the manga so far Omen: Imperfect form of UI that focuses on defensive evasive maneuvers similar to angels. However because it’s imperfect there’s a stamina drain Silver hair UI: The perfected form of UI. Completely utilizes 100% of Goku’s power offensively and defensively. When he’s calm there is zero weakness in his arsenal. However there is a stamina drain due to the transformation aspect conflicting with the technique, meaning it’s best to use this form when absolutely necessary Avatar UI: A gigantified construct of the perfected form of UI. Can only be utilized as a last resort if Goku’s body is incapacitated in any way. True UI: The imperfect form of UI when Goku is using his emotions like a Saiyan instead of an angel. Allows him to get a slight boost in power because he’s fighting like himself. However it’s only good temporarily and will drain stamina much quicker than usual.

[@proheraldsjr3000]

Perfect

[@devin2796]

Ayeee new upload

[@ultraegogogeta1631]

Autonomous ultra instinct is such a badass name, honestly can't believe anyone doesn't like it

[@rodthedigger2902]

Great video!

[@starfeesh7894]

Holy shit he’s back

[@bigpoggers6507]

MY GOAT IS BACK RAAAH

[@Probably-Spider-Juan]

THABK YOU TOUGHMAN GAMING

[@ColorNic]

PEAK RETURNS

[@Prfinity]

Id be so sad if i didn't get that teq card peak video btw!

[@cheetoschrist5685]

tough man gameing

[@XiroWolf]

Goku wasn't holding back during his spar with Gohan. They state that a few times.

[@YungSinatraa]

Very good vid sir👍best form in the series

[@astral5629]

Based. ❤

[@jordanglasper1064]

This is a really dope video I love you exclamation I love your humor and I definitely love your dedication. Now here comes the opponents or the opposition to serve. One objection your honor. Continue. Ultra instant know this is not a ultra instinct. You cannot state go Han in a transform state during the third arc of DBZ when that is entirely false in on true. Go home is simply in his base form. The terms mystic an ultimate Arfan main church created to substantiate a fake power up on top of Gohan‘s Latent potential unlocked. That’s like Colleen that’s worse than calling Goku Keio Ken technique a transformation. It would be better to call Goku’s‘s technique of the Keio Ken a transformation. Because at least there’s an aura change and there’s a power above from that beyond normal or maximum normal limitations. That’s my only gripe. I oh yeah I love the part when you were talking about hey Goku versus Gohan, you’re all I know. And the fan bases like why not? Because it hurts my brain!!! That’s hilarious.

[@thepixelman4776]

One other thing that could’ve helped with the “shattering of his limits” is that Gokus pure of heart. It’s been stated that those without evil in them could just bounce off the spirit bomb (although SSB may change that purity somewhat), so him pushing against the explosion so much was genuinely causing a great clash from him repelling it so much. Maybe you meant to imply that, maybe I’m thinking too hard about it, but neat if that was intended.

[@toughmangaming8275]

I didn't think of it like that, but I think if it was intended that's really cool!

[@dankerbell]

i think it's because you see when his pupils disappear implying loss of consciousness, his body still (instinctively?) pushes back, if purity allowed that then gohan wouldn't have been concerned that goku died when he threw the bomb at frieza on namek

[@TheGoodfellasproductions]

Finally!!! I can breath again!!!

[@TheGoodfellasproductions]

Day 1 of holding My breath until the next toughman gaming video

[@OmniDivin]

True Ultra Instinct was never said to be stronger than Perfected Ultra Instinct..

[@dominocut2963]

It's only stronger if Perfected UI loses out on accuracy

[@toughmangaming8275]

While this is true, as Gas literally questions the fact that the silvered haired form is stronger and Goku doesn't deny it, its clear that at that moment Goku had a higher grasp on UI Sign which allowed him to get the leg up on Gas with pure power as compared to PUI

[@OmniDivin]

@@toughmangaming8275 Brother he questions Silver hair being the maximum strength. Goku says 'for that Ultra Instinct to work, I need my heart to be calm.' He clearly agree with Gas, he's just saying TUI is more reliable in that moment.

[@righteousone5119]

​@@OmniDivinyeah. Having unstable emotions buffs the True UI Sign form, whereas unstable emotions nerfs the UI form. If Goku was calm enough to use UI with the same efficiency as he did against Moro or Jiren, he likely could've won against Gas as well.

[@OmniDivin]

@@righteousone5119 it doesn't buff anything lmao. He just chose to use tui cuz that's what he felt like using at the time, he felt like not being calm

[@6942-c8g]

Do a extensive dive into fusion Edit: also do a extensive dive into db power system eg Ki, magic, energy

[@catlord2395]

Luffy just casually activating ui sign and then never using it again will always be so funny to me

[@vibinlamp3326]

Im the dragon ball anime theres a filler where goku put a hit on himself so he is focusing very deeply and when bulma goes to slap him he dodges purely out if instinct and he hardly noticed he did that

[@falloutwolf2313]

Hell yea

[@Flaris]

My feelings on all this “god I just miss Super Saiyan.” Nice and simple.

[@bluetone-amv]

Very thorough inspection of the forms! True UI Sign was really messy stuff when it was introduced.

[@yumin_pluto558]

It was only messy if you weren't paying attention to the narrative, which to be fair, it's harder to keep attention monthly. Once you get it though it's simple.

[@fares_gamer603]

WE ARE SOOOOO FUCKING BACK

[@ashuraomega1000]

You should make a video on the Soul Punisher and whether or not it actually destroys evil, some people think it does some people think it doesn't

[@sanctityninja9345]

HE UPLAODED 😀😀😀😀😀

[@MegaMachiOnline]

The Heroes manga sure is something

[@PedroOver9000]

hey i missed you

[@And3rSmith]

A new video already!

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

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[@danieljames6899]

I always thought that visually UI had something that didn't quite fit, although I loved this technique/transformation from the beginning, thinking at the end of DBZ I would have done something different. I'll try to explain myself better, I would have reversed the desing of Omen and Master, so that you can say the final version of UI is when there are no visible changes in appearance, this way the Goku we see against UB in the finale of DBZ is in a perpetual state of final UI.

[@dankerbell]

well that's the whole point of tui, and whis says in the granolah arc that to master ultra instinct, goku needs to use it in base form and all forms permanently, so that's his end goal. and considering eoz is one year after super hero, he very easily could have had it against uub. but i think that's stupid anyway because that massively upscales uub to a ridiculous degree.

[@Affogato1300]

HES BAAAAAAAAAACK

[@fedrek000]

Goku's giant avatar reminds me of Susanoo from Naruto or Korra's giant avatar from the Avatar: The Legend of Korra cartoon when she fought Vaatu.

[@aaronsound]

Thanks :}

[@tf7blackout]

This form is very confusing to me in the manga. From what I’m seeing in this video, the more Goku masters the technique aspect of the form he gets stronger in tandem with the transformation side.

[@tf7blackout]

If that makes any sense at all

[@superexclusive452]

Basically yea. By using his base as a foundation to master the technique, the more effective MUI (silver hair) will be in battle.

[@SensesReview]

MUI is a bigger multiplayer then full power Vegito.

[@MinhLe19303]

This is before I watched the video, but I find UI in each media are slightly different. While Omen is a gateway in both version, the anime also established that the user can only move without thought with faster speed, but not attack without thought, so attack hit isn't heavy and strong like MUI have. The manga omitted this and portrayed that Omen only have stamina issues, but also expanded by allowing it to use power buff and exploit its flaws with emotion to gain more raw power. How MUI works, though, is pretty much the same as all versions, only the manga expanded on that in post-TOP arcs where it was established that UI have level of mastery and that there're still imperfections in MUI, such as the time-limit and gradual decrease of accuracy. As for stamina and body toll issues, it differs as the anime established that the more he use and growing stronger attempting UI without mastering it, the greater the toll it takes in the body, while the manga has no such issues.

[@raph8065]

This form became needlessly convoluted.

[@somsakknownguy1174]

2:09 on this part I have never seen any "official" Dragon Ball Media ever using the term "Mastered" in Ultra Instinct at all unless I miss something since I didn't interact with any Dragon Ball Media for a Year now.

[@nxs5184]

WE ARE DOKKKAANNN!!! 23:50

[@lastdeat3286]

Oh hell nah your ahh tweaking I actually like the word autonomous

[@toughmangaming8275]

🤓

[@gentlepeeps3351]

I know people have mentioned this but I think true ui acts as a more reliable form with intense power whilst mui is his true last resort since we see it use it like that

[@ancientking224]

Don’t worry about the whole PUI, TUI, MUI thing in the manga, I think it’s mentioned in the Super Hero wrap up that the silver haired state used at the end was the highest form but it’s a weird circumstance to be honest.

[@adreeeandanothere510]

How tf is heroes more better at defining and simplifying the transformation than the manga???

[@lordraiden7397]

​@@adreeeandanothere510Because Heroes never put the effort to highlight the flaws of UI or actually contribute it to Gokus development.

[@adreeeandanothere510]

@@lordraiden7397 oh right how did I forget that

[@Codyslx]

When did the manga ever mention pui or mui? Isn't it just Ui and Omen? Tui is literally just omen.

[@lubsbc8065]

Goku gaining UI sign in the anime by getting hit by a Genki Dama is stupid, the manga at least gave a good reason for the transformation.

[@dankerbell]

he didn't just get hit by it, he fell into it and as it damaged him his body instinctively pushed back against it forcing him into sign, you see when his pupils disappear showing he's unconscious his body still moves

[@trentswoodland]

I'm sure you already got a few comments about it but Goku uses the dragon fist while in ultra instinct in the latest part of meteor mission's anime and game.

[@toughmangaming8275]

That's awesome, of course I put the series down for a bit and they bust out some peak

[@thevipez8740]

«True» Ultra Instinct is not stronger than perfect UI, all Goku said was that he feels he is able to fight easier with true UI The obvious interpertation from this should not be that «True» UI is stronger, but that MUI is stronger, but that despite being stronger, Goku felt «True» UI would feel better to use at that moment and easier to fight in Let me ask you, when UI gokus sussano grabs Gas, what is his hair color? Its white, because that is the perfected form, the strongest form «True» Ultra Instincr was never meant to be a direct upgrade / stronger form, it was just a way for Goku to be able to fight easier as he was not calm at that moment and felt that form would be *easier to use*

[@meowsquared]

I think MUI would be the equivalent of Goku completely overclocking his body. It basically draws out every bit of his power and then some, but can only be used while he's completely calm. However, this goes against his saiyan instincts, and thus also impedes his ability to grow as he fights in addition to just generally consuming a lot more stamina. On the other hand, TUI would be far weaker than MUI overall, but have more potential for growth due to Goku being able to abuse zenkai to keep adapting and growing mid-combat. In addition to this, it would be far less stamina-draining because he isn't having to fight his nature and expend tons of energy to sustain its power. MUI wins the sprint, but TUI wins the marathon.

[@pkpyro2000]

Ultra Instinct is kinda like Killua’s Godspeed from HxH

[@ethangrasmick770]

Oh yeah new toughman video

[@strider_hiryu850]

there's another gag usage in other media. that being Drunken Fist Rock Lee

[@imthethundergod69]

True ui is just omen just litteraly used like a sayian Relying on there instincts kinda like the great ape in a way

[@jonathans3141]

WE ARE DOKKAN

[@Gamerboykididk]

Funimation, brings back memories…

[@default_liver1641]

the real power of UI is that you get a new more powerful form everytime they want to retcon what it is 😂

[@vibinlamp3326]

I need you to please explain god ki as a whole who has it what it does and what it does to transformations

[@yashaoftheflames8475]

Sliver hair is stronger than tui however tui works better for goku because he can use his emotions

[@joeker5208]

I mean, Trunks’ Rage form also appeared before UI

[@krystiannorthwall6726]

Incredible thumbnail, didnt even read title lmao

[@villelater2708]

I say it can be either a resurrection which is ultra instinct sign or a transformation Mui but you can only get one during battle and that is as simply put as i can make it lol i don't know

[@jocoolshow]

I know this isn’t the point of the video, but this entire analysis and in depth breakdown on Ultra Instinct as well as comments like this from Jiren at 15:37 really make me call into question how skilled Dragon Ball’s verse is as martial artists. Specifically compared to other fictional series and martial artists In several other Martial Arts manga, there are people who learned and mastered skills similar or superior to UI and aren’t considered anywhere near the peak of their martial arts Several Marvel and DC street tiers that are martial artists, several characters from Baki and even Baki when he was 13, several characters from Kengan Ashura/Omega, Kenichi’s Ryusui Seikuken being a way better version of UI that I think Toriyama took inspiration from due to how similar it is, etc GoDs and combat geniuses who train for millions of years can’t master UI, and a generational talent like Goku still hasn’t, meanwhile in other series it’s something basic that everyone and their mother can counter or keep up with in martial arts series And then Jiren who’s considered a master martial artist even on the scale of the ToP and compared to GoDs saying that something as basic as counters or ‘exploiting openings’ doesn’t show true strength 😭

[@Voiid_edits]

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[@Garland-r8n]

true ultra instinct isn't stronger, it simply worked better with the uncalm mindset goku was in while fighting gas, thus he succeeded.

[@claudhopper9003]

GOLD SSJ6 VEGITO VS ANGEL Z🎉🎉🎉😮😮😮😊😊😊😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@dankerbell]

mastered ultra instinct is stronger than true, but true is easier for him to transform into because he doesn't have to repress his emotions, and can use them to temporarily boost his power, which is why it does better than mui vs gas but not for very long, and why mui is still considered his best form vs gohan, because it is, and because it's a sparring match so he can easily control his emotions

[@dankerbell]

also you literally admitted roshi didn't get ui because he didn't and whis says this so idk why he was brought up also why didn't you mention ultra ego when talking about everyone's unique forms as if to avoid spoilers but showed panels of it and then mention it in the video later

[@kjmudkipzofthemudkipdynast2657]

Imo tui is weaker than pui but since Goku can use his emotions he is fighting more like himself

[@vegg6408]

The one piece thing was just haki foreshadowing

[@tonicconverse]

If Goku got vaporized at the point of the spirit bomb, wouldn't U7 win because freeza and 17 were in and killing was outted?

[@toughmangaming8275]

This actually gets addressed when it happens! Essentially the Grand Priest rules that since Goku got vaporized by his own blast, his death was his own fault and so Jiren would receive no penalty. Also that was relatively early in the ToP so there were more than just Freeza and 17 left. Thanks for commenting!

[@curse5697]

True UI is not a new form, is literally just Omen UI but used with a different perspective in mind, exploiting the fact that it's not the perfected form he can mix his saiyans emotions with a rage boost if the situation needs it, while having still a percentage of the defensive abilities the form brings, it's literally just that and i think it's a really clever concept i'd like to see implemented more in the future. To me, it has the potential to be even stronger that MUI since if the battle turns personal, the saiyan rage boost could power Goku up even further beyond, something that if were going to do with MUI the transformation would just NOT work since he would need his heart to be at total peace (anime ruins this explanation btw but in the manga it's done correctly).

[@c3rtin3se]

Can you stretch me like sketch

[@toughmangaming8275]

No?

[@leannestewart7215]

True ultra instinct is weaker than the silver haired form true ultra instinct was just more efficient form at the moment

[@default_liver1641]

so anime Sign is no emotions and Silver is emotions and manga Silver UI didn’t let him use emotions so he needed to go back to Sign. which made it stronger? idk how it works anymore than Toyotaro does ig 😅

[@leannestewart7215]

21:54 it actually goes ui s., ui s. (t), p. ui. that is it no higher form true ultra instinct is literally just ultra instinct -sign- but he decides to use his emotions

[@sythv3]

Tui is fits for him because its a saiyan style not angel style

[@dragonballtalk8527]

So a gay dude with a staff taught him how to have blue hair. I love it

[@leannestewart7215]

There is two ultra instinct forms ultra instinct sign or ultra instinct omen and the silver haired limit breaking form of true ultra instinct

[@gentlepeeps3351]

Not seen the video but I can already see people debate which ui is stronger mui is the superior we see this in the post superhero since mui was called his highest form and even int he granolah arc when goku couldn’t beat gas with TUI he fell back into mui and pulled out his ki avatar showing it was stronger

[@hecker4050]

So super is truly before gt

[@biohazardbin]

guys, remember, a senile Toriyama came up with this entire concept! (no he didn't)

[@_kelso9959]

Its so complicated in the manga now

[@abhinandannandan3863]

Damn