How Eminem Fell Out Of Touch

[@AJ_from_Queens]

Literally was my idol until he became part of the establishment. Sounding like MSNBC in his raps. The guy that Just Don’t Give a F certainly gives WAY too many Fs these days…. It’s sad

[@Kredible1]

His decline started in 2004 imo. His verses on D12 World were the last of what he had in the tank and then it was a rap, literally.

[@totttrax]

A rappers worst fear is running out of content

[@nembri0124]

This man still outrymes everyone man

[@Kredible1]

@@nembri0124 I’m not saying his pen game isn’t still crazy. I’m saying it’s just not enjoyable for me anymore. Just my opinion though.

[@hamezbnde6968]

True but it was always going to be tough to match up to those first three albums tho. But he still had a couple good projects after encore tho imo

[@Jason__0336]

@@nembri0124 Rhymes without story or content are easily forgettable.

[@usoftheart]

Eminem was my favorite rapper from 2000-2004. When he dropped Encore, I pretended that it wasn’t garbage. Nobody is saying he can’t rap. If anything, he is skillfully at his zenith…but I don’t want to hear it. There is definitely something different about his music from 2009-present day. In my ears, he has never topped Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show.

[@cyber-bully5063]

This video really misses the mark on how he fell from his prior grace, him not appealing to people who don't care for rap as a genre, being angsty and "making music for haters" are not the reason he's been falling flat on listeners for so long. If anything pursuing validation from people who aren't well versed in the genre by bloating his albums with mediocre filler pop tracks and wowing them with cheap gimmicks has damaged his career more than anything and in regards to being angsty, their are rappers like Kanye and Run the Jewels who have held onto their young angst even in their older age and are still hitting all the right spots with music listeners. Making music "for his fans" instead of his haters is also a really bizzare point, there are millions of his fans who wanted him to go back to flipping out on anyone who talked sideways about him and to start dishing shit out on other rappers which is what he delivered. Most of his fans still love Kamikaze but it's the general music audience outside his fanbase that thinks it just sounds corny and lame The real reason for his fall off has more to do with how much is ability to structure songs and write well has dipped over the years. He was one of the best ever with his underground east coast imagery/charisma heavy style while also having the most legendary play on the white rapper archetype in hip-hop but he threw all of that away just to become a punchline rapper, something he's generally pretty hit-or-miss with. Not to mention for the past decade he's been rapping on tracks with some of the worst production and hooks i've ever heard with some of the most basic issues in audio mixing an artist his size has had in recent memory and he's only really started to fix this after 10+ years which is just sad that it was such a struggle for dude to reach what is literally standard for almost every other artist.

[@Yo-Ah-Kim]

Well formulated and I agree with everything you said here 💯🎯

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

​@@Yo-Ah-Kimmy God he hit the nail right over the head

[@wander7812]

Underrated comment. Pretty much his problem is he fell off into the "Lets be mainstream!" trap. It never worked and never will, hes carried by his name at this point instead of his music.

[@theduffman9834]

Eminem sold out. Hes an old man and hasnt been GREAT in over a decade. Used to love bumping his music in the car all the time

[@vishvnaik2756]

u r absolutely right

[@StickmanGuides]

Criminally underrated video

[@williamlefebvre7263]

Good video man, I agree with a lot of your points on how Em has become irrelevant in the current rap game because he only makes new music for his "haters" instead of his fans

[@albertpullhoes]

nostalgia always seem to hold us back

[@kombeiandredic8467]

Just look at the thumbnail. It’s not even the same person he clearly wanted out but the music industry wanted money so they picked a lookalike and replaced the real eminem

[@siloshroom2132]

It’s sad because he fell off so hard that even when I say Eminem is my favorite rapper of all time people are like “come on bro really” like his music used to be so fire now I can’t stand his new shit at all

[@KacperD2007]

I mean in he's in his 50s now and this isn't the 2000s any more

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

​@@KacperD2007then he needs to retire. You can't keep making excuses for him and it hurts me to say it but dug himself into hole that he can't get out of now and it's only going to get worse.

[@_Obi-Wan_Kenobi_]

Gotta disagree man. Of course artists music style changes with time. Releasing 5 Eminem Shows in a row would be kind of lame wouldn‘t it? He mastered rap early in his career and turned a little more pop in recovery and in his new albums showed insane lyricism and technical ability being almost 50 years old. His music is going in another direction now and if you can‘t appreciate that - it‘s fine because everybody has different taste in music but listening to verses on not alike or lucky you and actually calling it trash is just a blatant demonstration of a lack of knowledge about rap. I agree with you though that he is too cocky and sceptical towards new rap music, which I myself don‘t even consider a big fan of but it‘s still art and very lyrical in many cases.

[@cladladd]

Yeahhh I’m honestly more mad at society, I think the world now isn’t a world that could give us another Eminem show, I made this video a long time ago and don’t really think I would have gone about it this way. At the end of the day the only reason I’m angry about it is because I like Eminem a lot he’s probably my favorite rapper so, appreciate the well worded response, even if you didn’t like the video I’m glad we can have non combative conversations.

[@_Obi-Wan_Kenobi_]

@@cladladd absolutely agree with you here. Rap has really moved away from what it used to be, I also wish we still had 2000s Em, Pac, Biggie etc, rapping was much more focused on flow, rhyme schemes (funny) punchlines back then. Now I feel like the content of the song is becoming more important while flow and classic beats are replaced with trap and in the worst cases autotune mumbling. Going into a song with technical ambitions is immediately called corny, but I think rap as a genre is generally corny so what… That‘s why I was glad to see Eminem raising the bar for this side of rap with his new albums and I see you have slightly changed your opinion on this as well so that‘s great to hear. I‘m not a stan or hip hop mind after all I just appreciate a lot of Eminem‘s music for the energy it conveys, the demanding rhyme schemes, awesome flow, great hooks and humor while you may be more of a (especially modern) hip hop fan in general (i dont know) so with different tastes in music it only makes sense that our opinion on the new Eminem differs a bit.

[@cladladd]

@_Obi-Wan_Kenobi_ yeah I can’t get into a lot of new rap because it seems very focused on the rapper life style where the 2000s/90s rap was about life on the streets. Now it just seems to be odes to abundance and abuse.

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

​​@@cladladdAgreed. At the end of the day tho Eminem brought all this on himself with his past actions and that Sway and Crooked I interview did him no favors. All it did was exacerbate the fact that he's a out of touch bitter rapper who dislikes other people's taste in music and it hurts to say this cause I'm a fan of his.

[@Sha-El]

Eminem stans finally waking to how trash he is, dude always been ass which his abc rhymes

[@DarkgamingVR]

Eminem really pulled a let's bring back slim shady moment in his houdini song it's good at best

[@TurtleMan2023]

And he still sounds like modern eminem not slim

[@DarkgamingVR]

@@TurtleMan2023 well yeah it's not actually 2002 eminem but at least he's creative

[@keanureeves9802]

I don’t like it… it’s like they had the chorus in a vault since 2005 and just threw it on the beat. Then when he raps his voice is his modern voice. Not the same person at all.

[@TurtleMan2023]

@@keanureeves9802 yea the slim Shady ai voice version makes me like the song a lot more

[@kelbosskii9769]

Houdini was trash if you ask me and thats becuae I've been listening to em my whole life.

[@nathanmonka8561]

I want to add that Eminem didn’t really start that beef if anything im pretty sure he wouldn’t have said anything if it weren’t for the daughter thing, the accusations about Eminem trying to block out MGKs career and the sneak dissing he was doing with tech9ine and the press run he did about his daughter when that beef happened it was MGK who started it not Eminem he didn’t just diss out the blue MGK got disrespect and em responded in kind I’m not disagreeing with every thing that’s said here but just wanted to make that clear

[@birkneo]

Bro he never started that beef☠️mgk did all he did was finish it and only after the internet practically forced him to☠️☠️ like what even is this video Eminem didn't fall off and still is very very relevant in the genre he's pushing 50 and still outselling a majority of artists id say he's doing better than ever

[@lightningmcqueen4024]

He's 51 this October!!

[@JustSomeGuyWithoutRent]

Yeah the moment mgk mentioned his daughter it was over

[@happyathiest1564]

Do y'all understand what rap is?

[@vishvnaik2756]

eminem ruined his legacy in the last 10 years. just like game of thrones went from the greatest cinematic masterpiece( S 1-6) to absolute shit in the last 2 seasons but most of his yes men fans and yes men people surrounding him would have a hard time seeing the truth; his last great album was MMLP2🌀🌀

[@TheCreeperdude360]

good video, aged like milk!

[@dataphoenix8004]

too many yes men around him he should work hard in one song and release one song not an album of trash. One song every 2-3 years

[@ChiaraBorghese-xi2mn]

Eminem è morto nel 2006. Anche la sua voce è diversa.

[@howlindeath4278]

Bro I stopped listening to eminem a long time ago, there is alot of people who still support him, but while his name is still famous his music...his newer shit the last few albums nobody really cares. I don't hear his songs hardly anywhere anymore like at all, none of my friends, none of my coworkers nobody listens to his shit. Maybe one dude I know listens to his modern stuff but the only people I know who still listen to eminem songs are always the older songs, the ones when he was actually eminem. Idk man his shit just sounds soft now, sounds like he is Whining half the time now, rapping about random shit. Hell whatever happened to slim shady. Dude just doesn't have that dog in him anymore.

[@vishvnaik2756]

recovery and relapse r classics🌀

[@carybishop]

Too late...

[@Mornings]

Eminem has always been the best example of "Look up the lyrics bro its totally deep wowee wow wow! He's saying random bs so fast too! EPIC!"

[@Ipidydafoo-em2nb]

uh, no, this is some blatant hater shit you are talking, his lyrics do make plenty of sense and a lot of it is usually metaphors that go over peoples heads, so no, people dont look his lyrics up bc its "random bs" they look them up bc he has a diverse lyrical talent that most people cannot understand fully the first time around.

[@cladladd]

Agreed, he’s the goat bro

[@lightningmcqueen4024]

This is complete bs

[@birkneo]

the 5 pple who actually liked this comment legit makes my brain hurt

[@princecharming709]

You said is correct.. Random BS.. Part of the reason he fell off. Point proven.. 😂

[@vishvnaik2756]

u r absolutely right

[@RealOGMudbone]

I wish Em would’ve taken more of a step back with his later years. Do like Kdot and take more time perfecting albums instead of just putting out trash. I would rather get a great album from Em like every 7-10 years after encore instead of a bunch of random garbage

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

I agree with everything u said and I like Eminem however he hasn’t been the same since recovery as he ran out of ideas and I hope he doesn’t drop another album

[@jedieknight72]

Being and old fan, It's just sad to see. I always thought the "kamikaze era" was a plan initially. I mean revival was purposefully made that way. It was a clear excuse to bark back at the rap world later. He had nothing left in his "recovery" persona lyrically. Campaign speech, no favours, then this BET cypher, revival are all deeply political. Some would say he has always been political, but not to that degree. Its not just controversial, it's just dumb because people became very opinionated and personally, for artist picking a side is lame af. I hardly ever hear "the feels" in his songs. They are not funny anymore, they dont touch you anymore. It's just smart punchlines and fast rapping that make you say "wow that's crazy!". I liked kamikaze, he made some good points but from the point of his legacy it's a clear inconsistency. He went clear in recovery, then he tried to put on the mask of slim shady again but it's no longer 2000's, it's impossible to recapture your youth because you have a baggage behind you and it just feels immature.

[@cladladd]

Yeahhhh it honestly was like witty banter but now it has turned into like when you hear you parents arguing in the other room. Like just a pure unlikeable fight about something that most people won’t even be able to relate to.

[@birkneo]

2:48 BRO ITS A CYPHER THAT LEGIT HOW THEY WORK ALL THE OTHER ARTISTS SIT IN THE BACKGROUND AND WAIT FOR THERE TURN like did you even do research on this at all? nobody using them as a prop☠️

[@cladladd]

But it isn’t tho bro the only one that exists is Eminem’s, there is no footage of anyone else coming up to the “mic”. It weird, it’s like a fake cypher.

[@cyber-bully5063]

​@@cladladd Bro just look up "Eminem 2017 BET Cypher". It's literally the second result to come up

[@stevekaufmann8109]

Its his choppy flow its horrible he needs to drop it he sounds like snoops dogg joke about modern rappers with donald trumps speech timing.

[@AD-iw4vy]

Bro only knew how to fight adversity and he's the dog that finally caught the car. The culture he countered is gone and the challenges he faced were conquered. He is commercially successful still, but it's all built on his work when he was younger and hungrier. He should have ignored MGK or helped him out; obviously MGK was a fan and Em was an inspiration to him. He should not have got involved with the Trump thing, because that's a fad and it aged poorly and it will age even worse in the coming years. He is super self conscious that he fell off and its making him worse he needs to shake it off and make an actual shady album, not whatever is about to come out. for the love of god we need Shady, cut the butt rock samples. cut the new style. cut the ethnic church hymns. Leave your circle for once. Collab with MGK. Collab with Ronnie Radke. Sign that poor kid who works at a fast food restaurant but can rap like a mfer. do something, but ditch this post 2008 slump.

[@CompaIMR]

The death of slim shady 😕

[@imaweiner1293]

He fell off

[@KacperD2007]

It's cause he's in his 50s now he's not gonna be on top like in the 2000s

[@imaweiner1293]

@@KacperD2007yeah, but his music is nothing like back then. he's not even trying!

[@francismumo6462]

The downfall of Eminem!!!??? What are you talking about 😂😂😂😂😂 we must be in separate worlds

[@dkmma3312]

Right this is stupid 😅 most viewed rapper last year . I clicked on it like how 😅

[@Yo-Ah-Kim]

That’s outside the culture. Eminem got the biggest fanbase that’s not Hip Hop fans, they are Eminem fans and support nothing else. Just look how ya’ll act when someone diss the man. You gang up on them and go full hater mode.

[@blaccgetsuga8714]

A legend who’s still popular yes, but he did fall off just in a different way. No radio play ( maybe he doesn’t care) but whatever he has a true fan base but that doesn’t mean he didn’t fall off . The way he raps the monotone ass weak ass raps that have no basis or point. It’s trash. I love the dude Eminem is a true legend I love all his older shit .. I even like recovery but everything after that idk. It’s like he thinks to hard now or something and isn’t being himself

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

​@@blaccgetsuga8714that's the problem. He's being a character called the rap God instead of just being Marshall. He's truly lost himself and what made him popular in the first place. He's lost his relatability

[@keanureeves9802]

I think he’s a clone. Like he even put subliminals in his vid Toy soldiers proof was gonna die before he actually got shot. Idk why people don’t question that. When all that happened he changed… like the last real Em verses and Dre beats were on relapse. After that.. no more feature from Dre, 50 cent or D12. Just pop stars

[@cladladd]

“Buts that’s just a theory a rap theory”

[@TajusYoungOfficial]

Your video was not deep at all. I agree with some of your opinions but a better analysis could've been done.

[@cladladd]

Indeed, I’m no music critic just a little thing I wanted to talk about.

[@urielpolak9949]

You are reaching

[@robdonegan6749]

Tom McDonald rules F-M he got rich and sold out.

[@alexandermartinez4494]

Forgot about Em listed to forgot about dr.

[@KacperD2007]

What about Michael Jackson?

[@nate6430]

He fell off after relapse/refill.

[@cladladd]

Agreed

[@JosephS-dj9os]

Mmlp2 was solid

[@mllrd]

I couldn’t take him seriously after “playing fortnite with your grandma” he probably fell off sooner but that and the awfully hot coffee pot just made him look so ridiculous

[@cladladd]

I didn’t hate the fortnite with your grandma song, It’s silly like old em was, it just makes me sad that he is culturally aware of fortnite and has to address it at all.

[@nembri0124]

Stil out raps everyone thoug

[@cladladd]

indeed thats one thing he still does very well. that MGK track basically ended that dudes career

[@revoIution]

He did not have a downfall bruh

[@hansolo9585]

He absolutely did. Multiple ones. Nobody takes him seriously anymore besides mindless Stans.

[@unrevoked7137]

delusional ahh mf bro do you really think he only went completely upwards from 1996 to 2023?

[@birkneo]

​@@hansolo9585 he absolutely did not lmfao bro he is so far from falling off this shouldnt even be a topic even if he lost 75% of his fan base hed still be a very relevant artist, at a curtain point you legit just become to big to ever truly die off unless you just quit all together

[@Ims51]

He fell off in quality. Not quantity or popularity.b

[@stevetaylor5192]

Its obvious you are not a real fan and don't know anything about EM or hip hop 😂

[@cladladd]

Totally

[@Processed-l1i]

This aged poorly

[@troopper1026]

Nah, Eminem is still ass

[@xoghost8105]

Nope, Houdini isn’t nearly as good as you think bud

[@revoIution]

Unsubbed

[@-Datura-]

Same. This was some lame content.

[@birkneo]

i mean yeah this content wasnt as good as some of his others but unsubbing? that a lil harsh bro ngl at least stay subbed and see what he drops next dont just write him off after 1 poop video

[@xignhour]

womp womp

[@lancenot2842]

Damn this is a genuinely honest channel, I subbed from the elden ring video and now im binge watching all your content