How Family Structure Drives Ideology

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[@WhatifAltHist]

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[@JTL1776]

@WHATIFALTHIST. can you do a video on what if the west combined egalitarian nuclear and Absolute nuclear family.

[@SayNoToDemocide1]

I've made a video responding to points you made in previous videos. Mainly disagreements, but also resources for you to use, being alternate platforms and additional sources.

[@j.s.t.6515]

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[@Paul-xu6gt]

I am so happy u did this video on Emmanuel Todd, he is the most interesting guy alive

[@Paul-xu6gt]

You should read his more recent books, it’s insanely interesting, that will totally blow your mind

[@hellentomazin6488]

The one difference from the Latin Nuclear Family and the Anglo Nuclear Family that causes most weirdness when one looks at the other is: In Anglo Nuclear Family you are expected to move out at a certain age and form a family later. While in Latin Nuclear Family, you are expected to move out only when you form a new family and if your husband/wife dies, you go back to your parents.

[@ScottJB]

Facts. My wife is Mexican and lived with her family until she was 27. I left my parents' house at 18 with the understanding that any future stays at my parents' would be temporary. We may view their families as ultra permissive and undisciplined and they may view ours as very strict and self-centered.

[@BroJo676]

The Latin family template is closer to the natural template for family types: community-based, giving room to the extended family unlike the Anglo-type which is really based on the "parents and children" model.

[@lollolowski8956]

Central europe is Latino 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤

[@susomedin5770]

​México is not really nuclear but a mix of anomic and nuclear.

[@Yha1000itz]

​​@@susomedin5770​ it is nuclear traditionally. But after NAFTA, it becames more towards "anomic". (Mainly, after 1980s, basically because it consides with the massive migration towards the USA from male population, which had hold the househoods under a matriarchal structure. Which btw, it has been seen as "the destruction of family" and there had been reactionary conservatives movement that are calling for "restore and protect the family".

[@wetwillyis_1881]

I feel like an absolute idiot for never considering this before, but now I feel like a genius after listening to you explain it to me.

[@Paul-xu6gt]

Read Emmanuel Todd, He is the most interesting man alive, I m french so it's easier for me but i highly advise you to read him, its extremely interesting. Btw, whatifalthist is making some mistakes because he is referring to a book written in 1970, Todd is still writing books today and he corrected some of his mistakes in his more recent books

[@wetwillyis_1881]

@@Paul-xu6gt Which of his books are the best, or which ones should I start with?

[@wetwillyis_1881]

@@Paul-xu6gt Merci, J’ai hâte d’apprendre de lui.

[@oof5020]

@@Paul-xu6gt do you mind summarizing his changes, if they aren't too large?

[@Paul-xu6gt]

@@oof5020 you mean the error whatifalthist makes? For example if i remember the video he says that the jewish family is authroitarian, it is liberal but w a strong emphasis on knowledge transmission, he says that the arab woman status is higher than the chinese status, it's the other way around, and he says that the zones with islam will always be religious, this is not true, Todd wrote several books about the de-islamisation of the middle east and you can already see that in Iran a lot of people don't believe in god anymore, there are probably some other mistakes, but that's because he based his video on a very old book of Todd, he is still alive and vry active today

[@victorangeles655]

Time Stamps 0:00 Intro 3:00 Exogamous Communitarian 11:30 Endogamous Communitarian 15:50 Authoritarian 24:38 Egalitarian Nuclear 30:04 Absolute Nuclear 35:10 Assymetric Families 36:47 Anomic 40:45 Flexible System 47:30 Outro

[@leonardocastelletti68]

As a central Italian born in Umbria and currently living in Tuscany I can say that exogamous communitarian family is no more in Italy. My grandpa remembered that kind of family but now it's only a thing of the past and we have switch to the egalitarian nuclear family like all the country

[@Samuel88853]

This classification is from a book written 50 years ago so that makes sense

[@pierren___]

26:54 "since land is divided, land is too small to feed themselves, which leads them to sell their lands to the rich, which causes revolutions" That hit home

[@SurajSinghTomarArya]

Yes, this has worsened in modern day capitalist countries since buying and selling has become easier, the rich can grab lands faster.

[@andyc9902]

Feels like India tbh

[@thekraken1173]

In Turkey population quadrupled. Land became divided and small so people couldn’t feed themselves. Everyone moved to İstanbul while still holding ownership of their parcels of land. Land prices have rosed to extreme levels. And because Turkish government privitizes tresury owned lands at the same extreme high prices as these parcels small lands are expensive. So farmers can’t buy more land to make their farm profittable. All young generations moved to cities. So no agricultural workforce. And now with hyperinflation and Turkish economic crisis, farmers can’t afford Tractors, Spare Parts, Gas, Fertilizers and additives; farming in cradle of civilization is dead. It will probably recover in 50 years. Big population of older farmers are dying. They will be replaced with small population of younger farmers. However big companies are taking over our lands. They are the only ones tough enough to survive and thrive. We will see what happens.

[@Mipetz38]

As long as the rich are cyclically removed egalitarian families could run forever if they decided to have less children. Lets remember we are constantly reaching unprecedented levels of production with shrinking population growth, that will create impressive family structure changes

[@pierren___]

@@thekraken1173 same situation in France & Paris

[@rajikage3098]

That Authoritarian aspect FINALLY someone has confirmed the theory I’ve had for half a decade Why Germany and Japan industrialised so quickly (twice!) I initially termed it as “Martial or legal culture”(Teutonic knights and Samurai are WAY too similar for it to be a coincidence) are when trying to explain why they industrialized without revolutions breaking out unlike Russia, the United States etc Basically the whole “The emperor/Kaiser decreed this, so I’ll change centuries of hereditary behavior and culture and sacrifice myself” And also why political corruption is SO disgusting to these societies Really clarified my theories Also as a Nigerian you guys should check out Igbo culture (Biafrans) They fit exactly into the authoritarian culture (in the modern sense, highly patriarchal, very disciplined and capitalist and very resilient against the Nigerian government and British colonials

[@eksbocks9438]

I think so too. Being in that kind of a system where going against your Monarch and Kingdom was seen as dishonorable. And in the case of historical Europe: That fear of being punished in the afterlife. Which didn't just keep others in check. But the monarch too. So, everybody works towards making the best decisions possible. Instead of grabbing everything for themselves. And giving back nothing.

[@eloquenz.5236]

This understanding of history is way top straight forward. These elaborate theories postulate historic "causalities" where they just happen to fit the theory. Basically what strikes me with every video of this guy. Show some humbleness y'all.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

@@eksbocks9438 Then why was Ireland lumped into this? On the Family scale, historically Ireland is firmly in the "clan-line/arranged marriage/church good" honestly resembling Middle East family style completely lacking in "uni-quality" The only thing I've found unified about the Irish people is I can get them all to spit on the ground when I say "Cromwell"... now you wanna talk about authoritarians, look to the Brits, they got that Ubermentsch-thinking Germanic blood flowing through their veins. No wandering bardic lawyer to give you rights in British homes, just god and king, and eventually they took god out of it and made their own church.

[@SimpleNobody2420]

Well, that explains a lot.

[@Cythan]

Bro Germany and Japan and super corrupt

[@PumpkinPie1926]

As a Japanese currently living in the US, the difference in familiarly structures and the obligation for intervention have been astounding. This video essay talks about Japan having authoritarian family structures, but I think we've collectively moved onto an egalitarian in the past few decades of westernisation. People are coming to realise that continuing to live with parents can be overbearing. Especially with the history of the mother bullying daughter-in-law into submission, it certainly had its share of dark history. But, I'm also conscientious of the cases where authoritarian family benefits more than egalitarian. My grandma grew up in a time when it was still authoritarian, and talks about how child abuse has been an all-time high after her generation of parenting. I think there's a lack of accountability of raising a child when it's just two adults parenting and working. There would be more advice and support systems available to the parents and the children if the grandparents were still living in the same house. As a society, I think there's a sense that we, as a society, are raising the next generation of kids, which is why we're also responsible for their safety, but the general society gets to intervene in how children should be raised. There's a sense of safety and unity that comes from that, which I also think is one of the reasons where it's normal and safe for kids aged 4 years old to go out on their own. In Netflix's Old Enough, we can see a lot of adults and elderly helping the kids get to their destination. All in all, I appreciate the freedom that egalitarian family structure offers us. But, it also feels like we're losing something tremendously important to our culture. I'll be curious to see where our society heads now that we're shifting towards full egalitarian

[@Ruiseal]

in my experience coming from what is considered part of the athoritarian system (Scotland). I can confirm much of what he said, with political parties being generational, children expected to support the same political parties as their parents and those who don't are considered ecentric or idiots by other members of society not even related to them, family legacy and history drilled into you, refusing to die culturally and social shift happing incredibly fast. Scottish regiments in the british army also have a reputation for being unusually fierce and stuborn to die or surrnder, i can also say in offical statistics fighting is much higher than neighbouring england. Unlike a nuclear family my grandparents were very hands on in my upbringing and their home was as much my home if not more than my parents home and if you read emmanuel todds work this a characteristic of athoritarians. I cannot say anything about primogeniture inheritance as i was too young to remeber the last family members death. Actually apon further reading until 1868, all immovable property, also called in Scottish law "heritable property" (buildings, lands, etc.) was inherited exclusively by the eldest son and couldn't be included in a will and until 1964 male primogeniture in cases of intestacy was finally abolished. Sources: Own experience Sparling Lois "scots law" (pdf) Succession (scotland) act 1964 Family types and political development (pdf) by j gutmann Barnes, RM, The Uniforms and History of the Scottish Regiments, London, Sphere Books Limited, 1972

[@linuxman7777]

As an Italian American who grew up in an mix between Egalitarian and Inegalitarian Nuclear. I really developed alot of respect for Stem/Authoritarian structures in that there is alot more trust in those sorts of families because people are so disciplined. Wheras in my family, there were many things hidden, such as alcoholism, sexual abuse, and poor performances which really makes it hard for the family to stay together. Also fights over inheritance are very bad intour society, whereas in Stem societies there is no arguing over inheritance.

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

@@goye222 I really hope not because I consider it their greatest strength. Speaking of Egalitarian Nuclear Families: Could you imagine a family structure where all of the women inherit equally while the men inherit nothing? I wonder what kind of societies would manifest from this? What is the psychology that will follow from this and how will this manifest politically?

[@Texan_christian1132]

23:22 This sounds a heck of a lot like what i think bout the region i live in

[@Uncannysius2023]

I’m American of Irish descent and I actually know what you’re talking about. My family up until my generation had a very communal and deep sense of social hierarchy, discipline, and familial obligation. Even though the women in my family had a high level of family power due to my family mostly being women, all family power was based on which generation they were in, with a strong sense of older generations being “in charge”, and within each generation where the fathers were present, they generally held sway (at least nominally). Even if members of the family moved farther away, they were expected at every family holiday and if something tragic happened. We also had branches of the family that were little sub-groups within our larger group that were more insular, despite paying fealty to the larger family. Every generation were raised with each other and expected to help each other out, and a big chunk of my family has gone back to Ireland to visit multiple times (myself included) to see the mother land. I also have multiple family record-keepers who have traced our lineage back to the 12th century in Ireland. And I was always raised that it was my duty to keep my family and the lineage alive. We also have a “go-along to get along”, where most of my family have the same politics and most have been public servants in one form or another. Todd must have been onto something, just like whatifalthist said Japan and Ireland have little in common except that they’re islands and they both have the authoritarian family structure.

[@timothyser9967]

These historical analyses have a horoscope quality to them

[@ASMRDoodlez]

I was talking to a Muslim guy at my job a while back and he mentioned that in his culture, every member of the family looks out for each other. If you need money for something, even hundreds of dollars, someone in the family will get it to you because if they need something in the future, they know you'll do the same. We also talked a bit about dating and he said he hadn't dated at all, but didn't need to worry about it because he's getting an arranged marriage, which didn't sound that bad to me considering how prevalent hookup culture is. The other thing I found very odd was him saying that his parents wanted to be the ones raising his children. All of this stuff gets explained by this video. Great job! P.S. I'm an American with solely Scandinavian and German ancestry, so my family has been completely different.

[@duckpotat9818]

India is pretty similar. For example I can't imagine leaving my home for college (which they will pay for) then treating my parents or being treated like a guest when I/they visit. You'll always be taken care of BUT also always judged. When families have a good idea of the 'ideal progeny' then this is probably the best family structure, when their expectations are conservative, stressful and controlling then it's probably one of the worst structures to be in. Just look at the academic and economic success of Asians in America for proof.

[@elpsykoongro5379]

Hook up culture is shit

[@FF-ch9nr]

where was the guy or the guys parents from? bcs islam is kinda widespread and covers a lot of different cultures

[@quran1012]

​@@FF-ch9nr The idea of financially supporting your family members like cousins, aunts and nephews stem more from the religious ethics itself rathan than the family structure. Under Islamic ethics your family and relatives are more deserving of your charity before you look outside of your family. Every rich individual is expected to give away at least 2.5% of his wealth anually to the poor as zakat. And the poor and underprivileged within your family is more deserving of that according to the teachings of Muhammad(sm). This reduces overall inequality in society and decreases dependence of govt social programs

[@Milkyway899]

@@quran1012 Is in Islam cousin marriage is permissible even to a first cousin?

[@ultimatealthistory5502]

I am from North India and I gotta say, it is the most unbiased view of the family structure in here, that I have got from a foreigner and not the usual 'conservative illiterate' BS. I feel this even more, after the death of my grandfather, as all the inner resentments in the family has come out, with there being vicious fights between father and uncles. None of the family really wants to be in touch and family gatherings have just ended.

[@dylans0630]

I'm sorry for your loss.

[@AB0BA_69]

Be happy that you're a "bob and vageen" Pajjeett and not a Muslim cousin-lover

[@lilben4184]

@@AB0BA_69 nah i'd rather be a cousinlover than a hindustani simp tbqh, at least the muslims have their women under control

[@gwho]

@@lilben4184 who keeps the men under control?

[@gto433]

Do your parents value friends more than relatives?

[@joaoalvaronunes5146]

I think you missed how important the extended family is for the egalitarian nuclear. When a branch of the family fails, the extended family is the factor that steps in to care for them and their descendents, so I know many cousins and aunt-nephews that were raised like siblings. Reason why I think it's gonna be more resistant to the ongoing dismantle of the family structure in the west.

[@ragnarostbrok1254]

I can tell that the authoritatian family type is still a big thing here. I am german, and once i got my first girlfriend when I was i think 17 or 18, my grandfather did a serious talk with me. He said that now that I have a girlfriend, I should slowly start to think about making him a grandson to ensure the paternal line. My girlfriend was 15.. But I promised him, that I will for sure create grandsons in future (just maybe not with the first teenage love..) because its also important for me, wich will seem strange to many people, as I seem to be raised like that. Our paternal Line reaches back to early medieval time and even further and I see it as my most important duty to obtain this old family.

[@einfachlumir7633]

My man it seems to be really fitting to germany since I have been told about family history what my ancestors did and where we came from all my childhood and there has always be the assumption that I continue my Grandfathers legacy who also had been the patriarch of my family.

[@helgaioannidis9365]

My grandfather was at war and far away at the birth of his first 3 sons. That's why the 4th son carries his name 😂 I'm from Bavaria, where in the villages in my childhood you always have the first son being named after his father.

[@thisiswheezie]

1i. Communitarian (Exogamous): The Father 1ii. Communitarian (Endogamous): The Community 2. Authoritarian: The Firstborn 3i. Nuclear (Egalitarian): The Brothers 3ii. Nuclear (Absolute): The Individual 4. Asymmetric: The Maternal Uncle 5. Anomic: The Dictator 6. Flexible: The Unknown

[@joshualovelace3375]

For 1ii I called it "The Clan"

[@progunjack5556]

I call anomic "the unknown" while flexible I call it "the frustration"

[@thisiswheezie]

@@joshualovelace3375 to be fair its pretty much more the Caliphate, like Ottoman Empire.

[@godskitten49]

I'd say for 'flexible', which really should be called 'Polyamorous'/'Harem based', there is no single figure, nor concept that holds power and responsibility. 'Chaos', 'Power', or 'Nothing' would be more concise than 'The Unknown'

[@Noname2004kurdish]

6. Flexible: The Fuckboy

[@jaketaber8553]

I wonder if these structures developed as a response to the physical and economic safety needs of each area over time. Sometimes you need a clan to be safe and sometimes you don’t. Sometimes your clan need alliances and sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes you need a strong alliance of brothers and sometimes you don’t. Maybe the absolute nuclear family is a response to an unusually high level of safety over a long period of time. Adult kids staying at home could be seen as a return to a clan lifestyle because of economic pressures.

[@andreahuh5574]

Agreed. It might have to do with harsh winters and the need to manage an inventory for survival

[@axeslinger94]

@@viktorm3840 Okay, give more detail. How is it misguided?

[@sinistercrusader4981]

In Francis Fukuyama's book "origins of political order and decay", clan like family structures were the og family structure

[@The_WatchList]

​@@viktorm3840 But you can give a reason why you believe something doesn't exist no?

[@JakeBaldwin1]

It's funny that you mention a return to clan lifestyle because I have a well paying job currently in the US and no particular motivation to move out since the majority of my expenses are covered if I stay home. I keep nearly all of my salary after taxes, I'm also a scrooge when it comes to spending so that probably impacts it as well.

[@andreahuh5574]

Awesome video. I need a part 2 that explores how women in each family structure have shaped their lives around this.

[@roxanneconner7185]

Yes, I do feel like something missing from this explanation is how women interact with society at all. All of the explanations are based on what men do and why, with the underlying assumption that women do not act unless allowed to act by men. All of these structures also have pros and cons for women, it would be interesting to see it expanded upon.

[@notyourdad361]

We know what happens when women are allowed to work and vote lol

[@HuWhiteDeath]

They've shaped their lives by following their husbands or fathers, mostly regardless of any of these family structures. The degree of this though depends on the family structure. In the more patriarchal structure like both communitarians, the authoritarian and the egalitarian nuclear this manifests strongest.

[@BD638]

YES PLEASE

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

Yeah, that would great

[@jasper0823]

36:00 Yeah, I am from South India and our family structure is not at all what you described and it's totally weird. How are you described us because I have never seen that in any of our culture. But the rest of the description about Southern India is fairly accurate. Although in recent years, our family structure is sort of resembling "Equal Nuclear" where male child get equal inheritance But female's get significantly less inheritance, compared to their male counterparts and people marry with in their caste and mostly through arranged marriage outside the family.

[@javindhillon6294]

I've heard something about distinguishing cross and parallel cousin marriages and having that system extend outward, does this sound accurate?

[@user-un5qv3dc9n]

I think there's a reason old unknown theories are old unknown theories. It's because they were bullshit. Family structure isn't some unchanging aspect of culture, it changes over time, and influenced by various factors *including* politics. The claim that family structures somehow influenced world history is a very creative and fun topic, sure. But it just isn't logical. Look at how he always brings up 'former mongol empire' every single time a map starts to resemble its territory. Like come on. I would expect better from someone who likes to emphasize that he is a professional every once in a while.

[@multidimensionalentt7417]

As someone who is Irish and Scottish - I would draw on the idea of open harshness being shared in our as well as Jewish, German, Scandinavian and Japanese cultures. Our humour is cutting, honest and doesn’t take into account offending the person it’s aimed at. The idea in my background is that we must collectively take on the responsibility to have thick skin as an individual to take shit and to hit back so we can exist strongly as free and creative men whilst part of the larger fraternal structure.

[@matthewbarry376]

Unfortunately he fails to have Any actual historical knowledge on Ireland. Ireland literally did not have the system of Primo-genesis we and our offshoot Scotland had a system of Tanistry

[@multidimensionalentt7417]

@@matthewbarry376 well premodern versus modern structure Tanistry eventually went out of fashion

[@matthewbarry376]

@@multidimensionalentt7417 it was crushed by the English and replaced with equal distribution between all children(that was the law) causing people to live on extremely small plots of land hence the over realiance on the potato. It's not premodern vs modern it's Gaelic vs anglo imposed hiberno-english

[@multidimensionalentt7417]

@@matthewbarry376 the gaelic one is pre modern, the anglicised one is modern Because one existed in the pre modern era And one existed in the modern era

[@Yellow.1844]

Germans and Scandinavians arent humourous at all... Mediterranean countries and the Balkans are way more funny

[@Akke-sq5oj]

Hello from Finland! You mentioned in the Exogamous communitarian section that Finland doesnt really fit the structures mold. The reason for this, in my opinion, is that Finnish family structure has been more of a mix between authoritarian and exogamous communitarian structures due to influences from both Scandinavia and Russia. This can be seen with clan like households where up until like 80 years ago the whole extended family lived under the same roof and then the widely accepted idea of fighting for your people and nation, with mandatory conscription for all males and idealization of the people who fought for our freedom for example during the winter war bein.

[@viljami.je.jaakkkola]

A Finn here. The family structure that felt most familiar to me was definitely the authoritarian structure. The deep sense of pride, discipline and stubbornness fits very well. Only the deep roots and nationalism before it was cool parts seemed unfamiliar, but those could be explained by the late development of Finland: we only ascended into a developed society few hundred years ago. We have like two hundred years of proper history, but we view it with extreme sense of pride. Finland having an authoritarian family structure could also explain why after the anglosphere culture, the cultures that Finland has most contacts with are all authoritarian family structure cultures: Sweden, Germany and Japan. Sweden can be explained by shared history, but why we seemingly have more contacts with Germany and Japan than with Russia? Could the family structure explain our WW2 alliance with Germany, our ferocious defense in WW2 and why we allow the Japanese to animate the Moomins?

[@starmaker75]

Come to think a lot of countries can have a mixture/overlap of different family structures. I mean Poland have a mix of nuclear equality with some authoritarian elements given the German influences.

[@sancaisancaii]

It's also noteworthy, that the Finnish traditional family structure completely collapsed in the 60's or so. Finland used to be a very agrarian society with strict and authoritarian hierarchies regarding religion, families, occupations and societal classes, which were almost never challenged(!). Then came urbanization and everything suddenly disappeared seemingly overnight and there is pretty much nothing left. This is the reason why Finland is superficially an extremely liberal nation and why things like alcoholism, drugs and loneliness are such big problems despite all the welfare programs.

[@ebinboiz8914]

That's exactly what i was going to comment(Finn here). Thanks for saving my time

[@rvoloshchukify]

Sounds kid of like Ukraine actually

[@GD-jc3wx]

As a Colombian with a French Basque father, this makes a lot, but a lot of sense.

[@floatytrouty]

As an Indonesian, I can confirm that we don't really have a concrete widespread family structure in which every family has to conform to. Whether these happened because of the cultural diversity or cultural diversity cause the lack of concrete structure, but i believe it's the former. You can see the differences on different family from different cultures such as some Chinese Indonesian still follows the exogamous clan system and some in the city follows Egalitarian or just straight up nuclear family. Muslim community also didn't just practice Endogamous clan structure, some culture who has been assimilated with Islam follow variety of structure based on their original culture. Same with Christianity which has been assimilated to local culture as well. It seems the absence of structure came from the diversity of the people, hence SE Asia was easily conquerable back in the day before national identity became the prominent strategy to unite people.

[@psychedelicspider4346]

As someone born and raised in El Salvador, a Latin American country, I can tell you that the struggle to divide heritage between children can get very messed up, as sometimes people really don't make a will, or they make decisions in a non-legal way, like only putting the first child's name on your will, but claiming it'll be for all of one's children. The phrase "pelearse por los terrenos" (fighting over lands) is literally a meme because it's kinda prevalent to have disputes with family members about selling inherited properties or how it's even gonna be split. That was spot on.

[@ajmosqueda6698]

filipino families with hacienda or have a lot of properties have this inheritance drama and is a meme too (for example: when they have family reunion. instead of catching up with each other- their will be arguing on how to split the land etc) 😂

[@luks607]

Here in Brazil it is a meme as well, it happens in almost all families, with people “fighting” for lands and money of the inheritance. And in the end of it all the lawyers are the rich ones kkkkk

[@EsterBN992]

Once i saw a meme about the serie House of Dragon been just about a family fighting about lands inherited. As a brazilian this make sense.

[@jmtz3149]

Yup the exact same in Mexico

[@pierren___]

Impose PATRIARCHY

[@unidorsalicosahedron7416]

0:00 Intro 1:10 Sponsor 2:20 Background 3:00 1: Exogamous communitarian family 11:25 2: Endogamous communitarian family 15:51 3: Authoritarian family 24:40 4: Egalitarian nuclear family 30:04 5: Absolute nuclear family 35:10 6: Assymetric family 36:47 7: Anomic family 40:46 8: Flexible family

[@donaldbrorson4583]

42:20 the audio clip is accidently offset by a few seconds. This is a very important timestamp.

[@DibyajyotiPatraAshu]

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[@billsabob2010]

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[@Butch3rHun]

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[@johnny2598]

Thanks !

[@Egilhelmson]

As to the “high divorce rate” in the history of the USA, there was a high abandonment rate by either sex which roughly matched the inverse of the divorce rate, so the family breakup rate was basically the same until No-Fault Divorce became big in the 1970s.

[@Hir655]

I would believe that the divorce boom in the US was in the 90s

[@gothicwestern]

Fantastic. I came across these ideas a decade ago on hbd chick's blog, which I thoroughly recommend. She did masses of research on the Anglo-Saxon mating pattern, inside the Hajnal line, and on the Father's-Brother's-Daughter system in Arab and Arabised societies. It's incredible how much of daily life that we take for granted can be explained by these mating systems. For example Agatha Christie stories often revolve around a family waiting to find out who will inherit, and murdering each other in the process! Hbd chick also looks at the genetic implications arguing that after 4000 years of FBD, siblings likely share more than 50% of DNA. But that between clans genetic relatedness is lower than between individuals in Anglo societies. In the UK the South Asian community has been successful at running small businesses. And this is not unrelated to having, not only readily available people to work in the business but also, a hierarchy that means family members often have no choice about whether they work in the family business or not. Unfortunately, this strong family structure also plays a role in the spate of illicit business gangs, which often contain two pairs of brothers who are cousins. Thus ensuring loyalty in keeping the nefarious practices secret. It would be really great if the many you tubers who talk endlessly about political philosophy could watch this video and understand that philosophy cannot provide all the answers. Whatifalthist raises the question of how long the high trust Anglo structure can survive. Well it is rapidly crumbling as it becomes victim to low trust cultures finding how easy it is to fiddle systems designed for high trust populations.

[@marciamartins1992]

Great point Hexagram 33. As I see it, in the future it will all be about cats, since nobody wants babies lol. Babies are hard; cats are way easier if you're living a life of uncertainty, precarity, and poverty. The Sphinx tried to warn us.

[@lampyrisnoctiluca9904]

one thing that also influences the way of lives of the people in different societies and even the individuals of the same society is the way they get food on their table. hunting and gathering = food? herding animals = food? agriculture = food? horticulture = food? entrepreneurship = money + food? wage labour = money + food? some combination of the above is almost certain. but what? Tell me what group you are in, and I will probably know quite well what are your values in life. I would not be surprised now if you would find the coincidences to this. What if people came up with differing social structures that were best suited for their environments? In other words, what if the family structures discussed here were the direct or indirect results of people adapting their way of life to better suit their way of putting the food on the table?

[@Black.Sabbath]

Bump

[@ellen-mariestenbekk9021]

As a Scandinavian I just want to emphasize that we’ve moved to egalitarian nuclear family structures. The authoritarian structure is in my grandmothers memory though, whose in her 90 years now. This is a really interesting idea in context of how strong institutions are not connecting people and todays polarization affects disconnect in core families though.

[@heyhoe168]

Failure of core family was driven by economical success and multiplied by capitalism. It spreads worldwide much wider than you probably imagine.

[@CestLimee]

I think some of the effects of the authoritarian is still with us. The difference from american nuclear family seem to be things that stem from the authoritarian structure. For example, extended family seems more involved and willing to lend support here than in america, and I think parents have a lot more expectations for their children here, while also being willing to support you as long as you are meeting or working towards expectations.

[@marcpuig6372]

I live in Catalonia, north-spain and happens the same. I think after world war 2 and the construction of the two blocks. Europe has adapt very quickly the egalitarian nuclear family due to globalitzation. But I 've remembered which son of my grandads has heredated the houses and is fitting very well to the theory.

[@loho1125]

Yes, same here in Germany, at least more liberal western half of the country. You can still find classic authoritarian family structures in the Southeast and East, but even in those regions, a trend towards a more egalitarian structure can be observed. I generally think it is problematic to assign one type of family structure to an ethnic group and then go on to judge those types. Even though it is not the inherit intention, it might be interpreted by some as saying ethnic group x‘ way of life is worse than y‘s

[@rickwrites2612]

@@loho1125 Yea there's alot that he is shoehorning to make the theory work. It's an interesting idea, but I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

[@vasilistheocharis164]

This reminds me of the feeling I often have to keep the family line strong. I am from northern Greece and yeah even though we also have my elements from middle Eastern societies I have to admit that the strength of the line is always important.

[@MrMarios3000]

Im from Northern Greece my self and i never even considered these differences in family structure between North and South. Wish he'd deepen into the reasons a bit further.

[@vasilistheocharis164]

@@MrMarios3000 it is probably the case that we are not clearly separable but the map didn't allow for mixed areas.

[@lesediamondamane]

This was really interesting. I'm a South African and you were spot on about Africa, at least according to my own experience in South Africa. Also what you've explained is the reason why just dumping democracy onto some nations fails. Democracy works with certian underlying societal/cultural structures that are already there. Hence Germany and Japan where able to adopt it easily because they are able to change and adapt quick due to how their societies are set up.

[@seaneustace9838]

It was forced onto the Japanese and they took a constitution similar to the United States after World War II. It did not come easy for the Germans. Essentially they had the Wieirmar republic following Wilhelm, the second lost in World War One which ended in failure, and made a path for Adolf Hitler’s, Nazi Germany, which overextended itself, and was beaten in war, and then had a new democratic ideal, forced upon it from outside, which involves a hell of a lot denazifacation campaigning

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

⁠@@seaneustace9838nothing in this whole video is true and also why u said isn’t true, first what is the definition of “democracy” and u can argue those countries especially Japan are not one

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

Nothing he said is true and Africa is a huge diverse continent

[@carloselfrancos7205]

Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité ! Thank you to you and your team for all your amazing work. From France

[@Kapil__Lanjewar]

I am an Indian from the Indian state of Maharashtra, lived in Madhya Pradesh and now working in Tamil Nadu, I can surely confirm that I have seen most kinds of families discussed in this video across length and breadth of the country.

[@Goofysociety]

Jai Maharashtra Jai Bharat

[@dumdumbrown4225]

True that - the narrator’s broad strokes are idiotic and the research is too superficial making the video just plain stupid…

[@CA-oe1ok]

Yep. India is a hodgepodge of all types of cultures found around the world.

[@IsomerSoma]

@@CA-oe1ok No wonder as there are so many ethnicities, languages and religions. However this diversity seems to spawn the need for quite high degrees of nationalism and insecurity to maybe try to balance out the chaos threw an imposed order.

[@aelardiz]

@@IsomerSoma Ahhh about that, my only complain is that most people are too nationalistic...

[@derfelcadarn8230]

I'm French, and quite familiar with Todd's work, and I must say, well done, this video does a pretty good job at summarizing Todd's ideas and analyses. Unfortunately, it's based on one of his first books, "The Explanation of Ideology", published in 1985 (the original French was published in 1983). It was the first book where Todd explicitly linked ideologies to family structures, that is probably why it suffers from some inaccuracies and lack of rigour (and in the comments, these weaknesses have apparently not gone unnoticed): Todd had not by that time delved deep enough, probably, into the anthropological literature and spent enough time refining his analyses. But he published many other books after that one (and what could be considered the logical "sequel" to "The Explanation": "The Causes of Progress: Culture, Authority, and Change", 1987). His oeuvre could be divided into two types of books: the theory and the application. The most theoretical book after "Explanation" and "Causes of Progress" must be "The Origins of Family Systems, Vol 1: Eurasia" (2011) of which there is still no English translation, unfortunately. Alas, I have not read it yet but it is a massive tome of 750 pages where Todd tries to see how and when did these family structures appear in History, so no one can accuse him of ignoring the importance of building his sometimes dazzling intuitions on a house of cards. The second volume will be about the family structures of Africa, the Americas, and Oceania, but the book has not been published yet. The other part of Todd's oeuvre is where he tries to apply his theory on particular phenomena: economic development, xenophobia, the nature of capitalism, the decomposition of Empires (whether they be Soviet or American), feminism etc. Some of his books are specifically about France, and so might not of interest to the majority of non-French readers. But two books truly stood out impressed me by the sheer power of their analyses (alas, alas, there is still no English translation!): "The Invention of Europe" (1990) where he basically uses his theoretical framework to explain the last 5 centuries of European History: the Protestant Reformation, the Industrial Revolution, the French Revolution, Dechristianization, the birth of Communism and Nazism, and other more subtle distinctions. Mind-blowing read. The other truly remarkable one is the "The Fate of Immigrants: Assimilation and Segregation in Western Democracies" (1994) where Todd compares the welcoming of immigrants in 4 different countries, countries that are often grouped together because of a shared civilizational background that is indisputable, but are in reality quite different in their worldview because of different family structures/systems: Germany (stem or authoritarian family), the US (absolute nuclear family that has chosen the "democratic" path), the UK (absolute nuclear family that has kept a very/relatively strong aristocratic tradition) and France (predominantly egalitarian nuclear, with an important third of the country being authoritarian like Germany). Because of that, the assimilation and integration of immigrants have been more or less succesful: relatively successful for France (at least, when Todd published the book in 1994...), not very in Germany, quite successful in the US (for those considered "White" at least...) and not that great either in the UK, although better than in Germany. One of the outstanding insights in the book is how different types of xenophobia manifest themselves in regions/countries that have different family structures: religious xenophobia in stem/authoritarian regions; racial xenobophobia in absolute nuclear regions; and cultural xenophobia in egalitarian nuclear regions. Absoluteley fascinating. Unfortunately, and I think it is shame and a disgrace for the Anglophone publishing world, only a handful of Todd's books have been translated in English, and these tend to be his minor ones, though there are still very interesting in their own right: "After the Empire: The Breakdown of the American Order", 2003 (original French in 2002!), "A Convergence of Civilization: The Transformation of Muslim Societies Around the World", 2011 (original French in 2007!), and "Who is Charlie? Xenophobia and the New Middle Class", 2015 (original French in 2015). But for English readers, there are very good news! Polity press has published a translation of one of his most recent books: "Lineages of Modernity: A History of Humanity from the Stone Age to Homo Americanus" in 2019. An excellent read. A French reader in the comments compares Todd's work in the social sciences to Darwin's in the 19th century in the natural sciences: I don't think that the comparison is far-fetched. It's quite revolutionary. In the meantime, I simply hope that more and more non-French readers get interested in his work, prompting some English translations. Long comment, but I hope it has interested some people.

[@Lenin79988]

Thanks for explaining that. I am interested on politics to I start slow reading about Thomas Moro. As soon as I have a better understanding of politics I will jump to that.

[@emcotec1463]

Thanks for the coment i looked Todd up and most of his books are translated in German so i can read them and educate my german Authoritarian Family, although i can imagine i will be pissed if germany comes out as a bad example, but i think to better ourselfs we need to recognize our flaws first.

[@dewildlifts]

Is this your dissertation?

[@KB-cq4cy]

Hello, I got interested in the works of Todd a long time ago as well and have read all his works in English but unfortunately I don't speak French. He certainly has very interesting ideas and having in mind the near death of humanities after the postmodernists destroyed any basis for rational analysis it got very interesting for me. It's really sad that in the west we forgot how to analyze things deeply while we were the literal inventors of the humanities and philosophy as a whole.

[@fandomguy8025]

@@emcotec1463 (Remember that Germany is now more Egalitarian Nuclear today!)

[@ericthegreat7805]

Im canadian and what you said about quebec makes perfect sense. In the 1930s, 40s and 50s they were a clerical state with the church running the government and having supposed fascist leanjngs. In the 60s there was a backlash and the population adopted french style militant secularism, and began to have the defining identity of being quebecois as being french speaking rather than catholic. Politically it is similar to continental europe rather than the anglo world, being militantly atheist but having strong socialist leanings.

[@susomedin5770]

Quebec, in theory, is autoritarian family

[@virtuousvoice]

Interesting, what do you think caused Quebecios loss of faith in Catholicism?

[@olfer07]

@@virtuousvoice Modernity, comfort, economic development. Basically. Nothing special or unique to Québec imo.

[@lukacvitkovic8550]

I come from a dinky little balkan town of barely 300 people and I can cite examples of families within it that fit most of these types.

[@ondine217]

Yeah I'm greek and at no point was it the established practice in Greece to marry your cousins. Maybe exogamus communitarian, but certainly not endogamous. The data on which these conclusions are made seem a bit suspect.

[@breadorchopstix5920]

I saw that you put the American Black Belt as Flexible, which is incredibly accurate. My godmothers side of the family is from Mississippi has a disgusting history of incest and broken families. I’ve gained respect for your small details in your maps. Keep it up.

[@andrewmattox1233]

A single example doesn't disprove aggregate data.

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

I wouldn’t class inbreeding as flexible like it’s just one of many valid choices that’s usually brought about by dysfunctional people or abuse, almost every major culture on earth has a strong taboo against close relatives inbreeding

[@AJ-sw8uf]

Speak for yourself.... the black community does not get down like that lol

[@lyw621]

@@AJ-sw8uf I don’t think the map showed the entire black community only a portion of it that does the flexible structure

[@Warsie]

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 inbreeding varies by culture

[@ufuh9125]

This is pretty interesting because if you think about it ideologies and the way people act is all based on how they are raised from their families

[@Paul-xu6gt]

Read Emmanuel Todd, He is the most interesting man alive, I m french so it's easier for me but i highly advise you to read him, its extremely interesting. Btw, whatifalthist is making some mistakes because he is referring to a book written in 1970, Todd is still writing books today and he corrected some of his mistakes in his more recent books. It's not about individuals, more about societies as a whole, the values are weak in individuals and strong in societies

[@Zeromus725]

@@Paul-xu6gt Makes sense about society as a whole rather than the individual. Large-scale statistics tend to magnify slight tendencies in individuals. Anyway, which book(s) do you recommend to start with for someone who can't read French?

[@Paul-xu6gt]

​@@Zeromus725 All of his books are translated i think but i would advise his 2017 book called something like "a sketch of human history", it's a good introduction to him. He's quite active in the political debate in France so this is very interesting too, my favorite book of him is called Class struggles in France in XXIst century. He's considered a leftist in France but he's a very moderate guy, he's very funny too. You can also watch some of his lectures, he did one recently : kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5vReJ2Njt2GsLc

[@Zeromus725]

@@Paul-xu6gt You have gone above and beyond my request, thank you

[@Paul-xu6gt]

@@Zeromus725 It completely changed the vision I had of the world, this guy is an absolute genius

[@universalsoulhealing]

Thank you for this well-rounded presentation. While many have complained that there are hints of bias, or that certain ideas are insufficiently explored, I would remind them that all information and interpretation available to us can help develop further thinking. Nothing is absolute. These are theories based upon observation.

[@OverOnTheWildSide]

How do you get that Southern Africa is monogamous? Is that based off of the countries being considered Christian due to the ruling governments? I spent a year in South Africa and there’s nothing monogamous about the African lifestyle and religion.

[@FredericBohin]

I am french and I am so happy to see my favorite author Emmanuel Todd transcribed so clearly in one of my favorite channel. Thanks @Whatifalthist for that ! I have read all the books of Emmanuel Todd and as I was told one day by a University professor: "peoples don't realize yet how important Emmanuel Todd is... in a century from now, he will be considered for Sociology as Darwin is today for biology". What is not told in this great video is Emmanuel Todd became famous after writing in 1976 "la chute finale" ("the final fallen") where he described, based on demographic and statitics of the USSR empire that it will fall within 10 to 20 years... he was later interviewed by the CIA to explain how he analyzed that coming. This way to approach history doesn't explain anything but embodies so many evolutions in human history that it is quite disturbing actually... especially as he wrotes book dedicated to Europe and France at a smaller scale, and it still works. Your work here is great and I will make it sure Emmanuel Todd is aware !

[@Fenifiks]

Interesting. Except for "Explanation of ideology", which works of Emmanuel Todd do you recommend?

[@neovxr]

I didn't know about him before, but from the short look here, I am not sure about the purpose of this research and its interpretation. Like, most anthropology and sociology in fact is being used for the purpose of (in our days virtualized and in most sinister ways "rule based") colonial rule and force. All that mangling with good and evil, justice and injustice, the current geopolitic quarrel is growing out of hand, and has the most ugly neocolonial face seen since long. The "diabolic arch enemy" scapegoating can be translated into the language of 80 or 400 years ago, the barbarians are evil and ostensibly we must rule them or kill them, and language that was definitely off limits, especially towards people of color, is now being used against the arch enemy.

[@FredericBohin]

@@Fenifiks I would recommend one of his last book "Lineages of Modernity: A History of Humanity from the Stone Age to Homo Americanus" to everybody. Then after, it depends if you want to go much deeper in his work, many other books are very scientific ones

[@nekocekoBiHMK]

Todd predicts the American Empire collapsing very soon

[@talete7712]

@@nekocekoBiHMK does he really say that? and how soon does he predict it will fall? because to me it seems like it's maybe in a sort of crisis, but it certainly isn't falling anytime soon; it is actually becoming stronger imo

[@juniorjames7076]

When I lived in Turkey for a few years, I had a Turkish housemate. It was always interesting when he would bring me to parties hosted by his Turkish friends or I would bring him to parties hosted by my expat friends from US/Canada/Europe. At these Turkish parties, I was usually the ONLY stranger invited who didn't know anyone, very small gatherings- usually 3 couples and a guy with a guitar, people will not talk to you if your aren't properly introduced by a mutual party. Its a "No New Friends!" culture is what I called it. Meanwhile, when I brought my housemate to a typical expat houseparty- he would be completely confused and go into culture-shock! He was out of his element because- 70% of the guests are strangers so you have to make new friends, large gatherings (apartment is usually packed w/ people) and few couples (before people start hooking up!), no formalities or waiting for someone to introduce you- jump into the crowd, grab a beer and start talking/flirting with people! I always used to wonder how two cultures could view "parties" in completely different ways.

[@shockomega]

That’s a cool example. Thanks for sharing.

[@-whackd]

That is the difference between being a traveler/expat and a native. Most natives are not extroverts who travel the world looking for friends. You could repeat this same situation over and over in many different countries. If you are an expat, you have to be welcoming because you don't have the luxury of all the friends you made throughout your entire life being in the same city as you.

[@silvertonguetrollsson1946]

Inmigrant, you mean inmigrant. Expat means nothing but "anglo inmigrant"

[@ChromeMan04]

Turks and Europeans are culturally similar

[@thekraken1173]

@@ChromeMan04 Our culture is only similar to european countries such as Greece, Albania and Georgia.

[@user-gu8qi4me8x]

This video is actually genuinely underated and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better.

[@injest1928]

You are too easily assigning causality when there is a loose correlation at best. The hypothesis that family structure affects the government system to some degree makes a lot of sense, but it needs a more thorough statistical analysis.

[@5h0rgunn45]

A lot of this is very modern and doesn't necessarily take history into account. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I'm just pointing out the map would look totally different in parts of the world if you turned the clock back a few hundred years. The defining feature of the authoritarian structure is given as the eldest son inheriting everything, but in ancient and Medieval times Germany and Scandinavia had a system where every son inherited equally as in the egalitarian nuclear system. For large parts of the Middle Ages France and Iberia had this system too since France was ruled by Franks and Iberia by Goths, two Germanic confederations. The whole nuclear structure as described in this video may well be derived from a combination of practices in Christianity and ancient Germanic culture (outside Ethiopia obviously, since Ethiopia has no Germanic influence).

[@mythicdawn9574]

I think Emmanuel Todd also covered past changes in family structures in his works. The book on which this video is based dates from his earlier works in the 70's. This guy is still alive, still writes about this stuff (also about politics, very interesting man indeed), and has done plenty of conferences you can find online. However, given that he is French, I think almost all of them are in French. *But* since he's also a very popular ethnologist (because of this book and other things) you may find some interviews in English too. This man is very interesting to listen to :)

[@jeupater1429]

A lot of this is totally inaccurate bullshit

[@NeoWish]

He is duscussing families structure during industrial revolution and it's reaction of it. (Mostly)

[@TheSpecialJ11]

@@mythicdawn9574 My decision to learn French keeps on being more useful than I thought it would be. So many great social scientists, philosophers, novelists, etc. of the 20th century were French and wrote in French, and now I can read their works that haven't been translated. It's great. I highly recommend people pick their second or third language based on use, as it'll feel the most rewarding. For Americans, that'll probably be Spanish, as the time I got invited to my friend's high school graduation I desperately wished I knew Spanish. Instead I only knew what people were talking about, but not what they were saying about that thing.

[@mythicdawn9574]

@@TheSpecialJ11 Yes you're right about language use. I already speak French and English, and after so many times noticing how the English internet loves to say cliche things about French politics and views on culture, world, etc. I seriously consider doing a series of videos in English explaining the various political, social, cultural views in France. How they resemble or differ from the Anglos. Most people assume France is either exactly like the English world culturally, so they consider their actions stupid ("why would they say or do that if they are like us ?"), or they think we are complete aliens (English people are obsessed about this law that forces French ads to subtitle in French anything that isn't in French like an English catch phrase, they think we are so anti-english, while in France nobody thinks about it really, for example). It's such a rich world of ideas, very very diverse compared to the English world that is diverse but mostly constrained around classic "liberal" ideas. Republicans, Democrats, Labour and Tories are all "liberals" in how they view individuals, society, etc. In France there are very lively debates in niche but very active political sphere going from all kind of communists, anarchists, "sovereignists", nationalists, authoritarians and royalists. When I compare the quality of arguments between French radicals and their equivalent in the English world, I think there is plenty of things to share indeed, and for everyone's taste :) I'm currently trying to learn Japanese, as I'm very intrigued by their worldview. After seeing so many japanese stuff that I could not comprehend I wished I could read that and find out if they also have their radicals and thinkers on the internet. Amazing culture also. But being taught what a culture is like in your native tongue is not the same as directly reading what the natives think and say.

[@TheHamburgler123]

The most unbelievable thing in this video is when you said you were in Eygpt and nobody tried to sell you anything or get in your face. Did we go to the same country? The touts there were by far the worst I've experienced in the world, 26 countries visited. It's the reason I'll never go back lol.

[@NaderBerbish]

You went to a touristic place and looked rich he did not go to that place he went to Victorian style Cairo. Tourism is controlled by the military industrial complex just like anything there so they want to take every dollar you have in your pocket because of their shitty economic policies. But for the average Egyptian who does not look rich that won't happen. Plus due to the degeneracy of Egyptians, The Military dictatorship and lack of actual unity between people there it is different than other Muslim countries.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

Well he might have visited a long time ago. Conditions were better

[@TheHamburgler123]

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Could be. IIRC he's only 21 or 22, though. Chances of him visiting before the Arab Spring kicked off aren't very high.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

@@TheHamburgler123 he most likely had a local egyptian friend that helped him. Which made him look less like a tourist. Who are the target of these things

[@sunshinelively]

Same - the sellers absolutely hound you in Egypt even if you so much as glance their way

[@deacudaniel1635]

Interesting that Romania is the only nuclear egalitarian family country in Eastern Europe, while all its neighbors are communitarian exogamous. I guess that's because Romanians are also the only Latins in Eastern Europe so they inherited that family structure from the Roman Empire.

[@angadgrewal9324]

poland is also nuclear egalitarian

[@savethebeez]

As the only heir to my family lineage, of irish decent (albeit a small amount, mostly Italian). When you said your dad would put pressure on you saying that the family lineage lies on your shoulders, i could immediately recall my dad saying the exact same thing. Multiple times, and unironically. ahahahhaahhaaha

[@fudgelology2030]

I think the problem with the Nuclear Family structure is the rigidity of it. When people can't go out and start families because of a terrible economic and social situation, this structure starts to break down and shift into something else, like how Whatifalthist mentioned at the end. Also the emergence of the internet has damaged the Nuclear Family Structure, there isn't as much interaction with one's local community now.

[@illusion9423]

The nuclear family isn't exactly rigid, or as rigid as the communal ones. The major reason for it breaking out is the deregulation of the sexual market, which is a hit to every family structure in general. And the whole point of the video was in how family structure shapes state, not the other way around. It's likely we'll see a pushback back to the nuclear family.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Nuclear families aren't very old. Grandparents not playing key roles is a very new thing and just wouldn't be possible with daily chores taking up so much more time in the past. They could just be unstable on their own.

[@john_doe_not_found]

We have polygamy in NA today. It is online through dating apps. Thousands or millions of children are born out of wedlock and single parenting is on the rise. All the negatives of a polygamous society are coming NA's way.

[@user-ol7bt4wp1j]

@@illusion9423 I think the internet is the main stone in the way, for a working nuclear family. If you look at it, the sexual market wasn’t as bad as when the internet arrived. The internet made it easier to force things, down your throat and make it easy for you to see things, that fucks you up especially sexual content. I think it’s understandable to say that if we want, to go certain ways we really gotta regulate the internet and it’s effects on people. A lot of people think of the internet as this grant Liberal tool that will give us unlimited freedom and information. But i see it more as the exact opposite and an easy tool for a society to turn into something extremely authoritarian due to it’s decentralization, somebody has to be kingpin. Kinda like in china. Which is also, how Germany and Japan got so extreme in WW2. If people want a nuclear family then the internet definitely has to be gone or religion has to become more influential and sexual liberation has to go back a few steps. Or we absolutely regulate the shit out of the Internet.

[@genghiskhan5701]

@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana the nuclear family is 1000 years old by this point

[@athanassiospagalis913]

Regarding the absolute nuclear family structure. One common problem that I have seen as an immigrant in the UK is the alienation people have from their own family. Because there is no feeling of brotherhood people don't seem to feel the responsibility to help their own family. This could be a cause for the epidemic of loneliness that seems to be happening in the UK and much of the english world which suprisingly isn't as prevalent in other parts of the world.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

We aren't lonely because of the structure, but because of a increase in distrust and dishonesty and immorality and progressive change to regular social norms. People are also less happy, not because they don't live with their brothers. The English speaking world is more charitable than any place on earth. You will never get greater acts of genuine kindness and charity than from a person in the English speaking world.

[@gabrieleguerrisi4335]

@@kordellswoffer1520 as always you are the best!! If you are on your own for your entire life, as you use to do, you must for sure develop the skill of being the best to be successfull. Or at least, to believe yourself so😏😏 No Your social structure sucks when it comes to atheistic, cynical, apolitical, lazy and mental ill modern times, cause you can't have the social aggregation groups, due to lack of common believes basing on which you could build this groups. So you end up lonely and mental ill. The author of video has been great but has fallen so bad on his believing absolute family is best and bla bla bla. You just see so cause you were born and embodied with it. Moreover, nuclear family can assure survival of individuals only having strong social and economic structure, a safe environment and an high tecnology which allows a city life. This could be on danger in next decades, due to global crisid and problems coming ad pandemics, wars, climate change and so on. Btw, for me the best model is not which ensure god knows what goals, but foollows the human spirit and nature.

[@athanassiospagalis913]

@@kordellswoffer1520 I disagree with you. Just from personal experience, my ex girlfriend had a cousin who had just came out of the hospital because he ODed at a festival. He asked her if he could come around her house once a week because he felt lonely at home and all his friends were doing drugs and he didn't want to mix with them. She said no and the reason was her mum would find it too much to deal with. On top of that, her parents had very good relations with the cousin's parents. I was quite suprised by how cold that was considering I have grown up thinking that you must stick your neck out for your family. It reminded me of a time when I was still in Greece where a close friend of my mum had asked us to baby sit her daughter every morning for a summer and we had happily agreed. We cooked meals for her and generally took care of her. Unfortunately I find the first situation pretty typical for the UK which is why I say in contrast to where I grew up there is not as much love for family and there isn't as much of a bond.

[@athanassiospagalis913]

@@kordellswoffer1520 I disagree with you on the fact that you will not find better acts of kindness in other parts of the world***

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@athanassiospagalis913 there is a bond and love for family. Not as much for extended as is natural and should be. You shouldn't love your uncles more than your father in a general sense however that is a specific situation involving bad behaviors and friend groups. My mother would likely reject a cousin if those where his friends and behaviors. My parents have taken in cousins before. But you can't expect them to take all of them in including all of their problems. It's purely mythical of outsiders to look at us and see us these ways. We are colder as people in general but in fairness that doesn't equal no love or less love for family.

[@ziongreen1725]

Hey, just wanted to say that I've really been enjoying your channel. You put things into a light and bring up new ways of seeing things that I never would have even conceived. Thanks for helping me to see the world better! I just wanted to say this because I see a surprising amount of just straight up disrespect towards you in the comments and other places, and just wanted to say to not listen to those people unless you take an objective look at what they say and decide to change based off that. Don't let them kill your confidence. Anyways, keep it up!

[@David-cj8wv]

Putting Latin and Anglo America in the same family structure seems inappropriate. Hispanics have much more of a clan sort of family structure even if we don’t call it a clan or actively think of it as own. Hispanics will often turn down higher paying jobs and better livelihoods for the sake of remaining physically close to family members, grandparents, aunts and uncles can often times be nearly as impactful to a child’s development as their parents and I’m betting a lot of Hispanics American’s earliest memories are playing with their cousins rather than other kids in the neighborhood or from school

[@Yha1000itz]

Actually he separates the Anglo "Absolute Nuclear" with the "Egalitarian Nuclear" from the Latin societies. But I know what you mean. But in this case. In Mexico (the case I know) we have something called "old populations" where you see people living in the same regions, towns or cities as their oldest relatives. They host a very strong sense of identity in the region. (My mothers side) this usually happens on Central Mexico where cities are several centuries old (since the Spanish arrived) But you also have the Nuclear forms (Egalitarian Nuclear) where is mainly happening in the Northern side of the country (where cities are around 150 years old) and they are basically 2nd or 3 generations of locals. (That's how my father family is structured) But sometimes you also are born in a city where you have no families and you and your siblings are very individualistic. (Which is how I was born, in an absolute Nuclear model) where my earliest memories are more related to kindergarten. Maybe something to take in consideration... in Mexicans who tend toward protestantism (which are 12% of the population) or very solid Nuclear families, the "Autoritarian" model is also in the scenario, as the oldest son is also the one that should embrace the family's name. (And hold the business, if the family owns one.) Most Mexico embrace the "Egalitarian Nuclear model" (With the Small or Extend Family variety) but there is also cases of the Absolute Nuclear or the Autoritarian Model as well, (And the Anomic sometimes)

[@StephenDeagle]

Just a note, but the authoritarian family doesn't necessarily imply inheritance by primogeniture (the oldest son inheriting) but can also function with a system of ultimogeniture (youngest son) or by choosing from any one of a family's sons at will.

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

Probably used the be the case though. But as most "authoritarian families" lives mixed with the "anglo-saxons" or are neighbours, they probably had in influence on each other.. Just going back to my grandparents, most of the land was given to my uncle (oldest son) and my mother and aunt got less. But I know my parents would divide equally between me and my brother. Generations change

[@duckpotat9818]

In India the family structures vary with caste, tribe and state. What you described seemed like an oversimplification based on North Indian ruling castes. These variations in family structures is likely why India didn't develop like China or Russia (among other things).

[@caniblmolstr4503]

He made a separate ones for South India which too is very specific to Kerala and Tamil Nadu. Overall a good job.. Which is in itself a statement

[@rambo23123]

neither north or the south is as monolothic like its made out here. Also grouping North with NE here seems simplified to reduce complexity. I would agree this seems like an oversimplification

[@duckpotat9818]

@@rambo23123 true, in many ways North, South and North East are just as different as Eastern and Western Europe from each other while or even more different but very similar is other ways. The same goes for states in each zone. Very similar but also different depending on the metric. That's why I don't like saying Indian states are like European countries. Like he said India is the exception.

[@dynamitebsb4520]

@@caniblmolstr4503 he is an Irish nationalist. Therefore his mindset will always be a conservative one. His views will be definitely biased.

[@rambo23123]

@@dynamitebsb4520 he does do research and tries to do his best. I can appreciate that but his India stuff is oversimplified and also very eurocentric in not just this video

[@muhammedkoroglu6544]

As a Turkish person, I grew up more in a loose exogamous clan structure than in an endogamous clan structure. The latter is seen more broadly among the Kurdish society though, whether it be in the native Kurdistan region or in cities where they (as a clan) moved to. Clanism still somewhat remains among the Turkish society, however it is much less pronounced nowadays. It’s become more “I’ll help a relative in need” rather than “We’re relatives so we all live together”. And although marrying relatives is allowed by Islam, I do not know a single person who has married a second cousin, let alone a first cousin. Again, this doesn’t apply to the Kurdish population. Also, prearranged marriages is in constant decline the last 20 years. Most of the marriages in cities is by personal effort. However, since the large family is still close to each other (not living together, but maintaining a close relationship), the tensions between the brides and other women in the family is still much existent. Among the Turkish population, a rise of fascism can be observed. This might indeed be explainable by how the father is seen as an authority figure. This then in turn explains how the state is seen as being holy and to be upheld through any personal sacrifice. Personal sacrifice for the state is seen the most honourable way to live and to die.

[@teiomat5557]

Is it just me or do the majority of his videos have a right leaning undertone to everything?

[@thebigbangtheoryispuregarbage]

You are not wrong

[@madmouse4400]

So what?

[@Thins_Are_SUS]

Rudyard has several times stated himself, that he leans to the right, occasionally warning he may 'show some bias in the next section'. It's true. All the videos do have a right leaning hint to some stuff, but I wouldn't say they do to "everything". Some takes don't align with the right.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

Eh, second place ain't bad. Also, I'm just waiting to see how half of the comments will call this woke and the other side will call the video fascist.

[@jJLDY.0gskJtOHZcju_o8e3v]

That's internet for you

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

you are a fascist.

[@macdeko7257]

Just ignore both sides !! I'm just so happy that he is doing a family structure video at the same time that I have recently discovered Emmanuel Todd works on this topic !! Je saute comme un cabris tellement je suis heureux !! 💪🇷🇪 ❤️ 💪🇺🇲

[@tlarson5422]

Woke is facism?

[@rahimlabib915]

and kunti becoming an emotionless alcoholic for the gulit of killing karna. Kunti was so devoid of emotion that gandhanvas cannot make her smile and the most beautiful men created by brahma and make even men fight for them with their wives cannot attract her and kamadeva cannot attract her and even

[@minutemanchan7232]

I love how you casually left KZbin for a month then post a nearly hour-long video

[@WhatifAltHist]

I've posted vidoes for the last two weeks

[@minutemanchan7232]

@@WhatifAltHist I perceive time faster

[@WhatifAltHist]

@@minutemanchan7232 Wtf does that mean

[@calvinherd9324]

@@minutemanchan7232 chad

[@FEDEXLuchs]

@@WhatifAltHist hes a dwarf and has a short life span You are elven kind blessed with long age thus time seems slower

[@dontlook3650]

Great vid! It is a very intriguing theory and one which begs many questions of our future, but the impacts of this on Statecraft analysis and predictions about stability of a system is what I am most interested in exploring now

[@micoolkidfilms3270]

I can confirm the authoritarian family is still alive and strong in Scotland, wether u like it or not, no matter what ideology the government is, we’ll still be stuck with this family structure.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

Y?

[@JasonJrake]

Please look into a theory known by it's abbreviated name "spiral dynamics." It's a model created by Claire Graves, who worked under Maslow to expand his hierarchy into a map of how social structure recapitulates personal maturation (sort of how we used to think that ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny). It's often written about as part of "Integral Theory," but Don Beck has books solely about S.D. It may help tie off SOME of your loose ends about India...

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

Stage Red is the only real stage, the rest of that theory is eh.

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

Also, it's kind of stupid to link the stages with civilizational advancement. One can have an exceedingly advanced Stage Red or Orange society, for example; whilst you could have Stage Greens & Yellows literally be little more than ragtag communes, which they tend to be in practice.

[@JasonJrake]

@@KevinJohnson-cv2no in my opinion you don’t understand the theory real well. In fairness it is often taught in the same shallow way that most personality typing systems are, so it’s very likely that the way it was explained to you is in fact complete garbage. But I’m open to being wrong too. If you have a link for a video/book/paper that systematically debunks the claims, including the original or modern survey research that corroborates it, I’m genuinely curious to look into it.

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

@@JasonJrake "The way it was explained to you is in fact complete garbage." I read most of the book by Edward Beck lol, and I've done extensive research into the theory. The theory itself just falls flat in a lot of areas. There is no "systematic debunking" because it's a vague theory which seeks to describe super-organisms, it doesn't make concrete claims and is too open to wiggle-room for any form of "systematic debunking". Bearing witness to the reality of socio-political development is enough to disprove it. The Dark Ages were defined by Stage Blue yet they had largely regressed from the Stage Red of antiquity in terms of technological advancement and societal QOL. As I mentioned earlier, the stages after Orange seem to forgo socio-political advancement entirely (hence why they tend to be disconnected, bare-minimum communes or movements); and often tend to utterly lack self-sufficiency as independent stages. The idea of linking Spiral Dynamics to the developmental level of a society or civilization just doesn't hold up lol

[@juniorjames7076]

Rewrite that paragraph so it can be understood by a 6th Grader.

[@marcingryko6872]

Wow, this video is so true! I live in Poland and we strongly belive here in equal inheritance and the idea of authoritarian primogeniture seems alien and unfair to us. Also this theory explains why we got along so well with Napoleonic France. Btw Napoleon is mentioned in our anthem in very good context and we tend to see him as a good guy

[@starmaker75]

Yeah as someone who has polish and German blood, you kinda see the difference of family structure even if “Americanized”. My polish side while there was bias for the older son, it was still expected for every family to have a said and mother and daughter have some said. Meanwhile my German side you can see that “first son” inheritance more and how it cause some problems

[@yaomingas5425]

As an spanish, napoleon is the evil personified

[@marcingryko6872]

@@yaomingas5425 understandable, I'm sad that my countrymen participated in Napoleonic invasion of Spain

[@kaisertreu6276]

I guess this also explains why we Germans and you Polish never got along and were usually enemies.

[@feidhlimidhmacanaltha3644]

@@yaomingas5425 how about Franco?

[@davidwork1209]

I like how Quebec is both Authoritarian and Nuclear on the maps you showed.... Because yes, I can see that.With the caveat that it's not just the eldest son that has the pressure, it's the eldest period.

[@mitchelomolade6886]

loved the video but you fell quite short when you referred to the great wall of china as a vanity project, it was built to keep out the huns

[@mitchelomolade6886]

5:00

[@tj-co9go]

8:05 Slight correction: True, large parts of Finland was a nomadic until quite recently, especially in the Northern parts of Finland. Some Sámi people in Laplans are still nomad herders. But there was also a large farmer population and areas. However, they were mostly poor, and owned by independent peasants, and they often had to extend their livelihoods by other means such as forestry and hunting. So even the farmers' lives would often resemble the nomadic lifestyle, and it can be hard to draw a line between these two in Finnish history. It was common to farm in summer and hunt in the winter. It was also common to slash-and-burn farm, to shift from one place to another, to burn a forest and farm it for a few years, which made agriculture quite nomadic. The crops produced in Finland were mostly rye and barley, and cattle herding was common. Life of a Finnish peasant was mostly free and independent, but poor, hungry, cold and busy. In general in Finnish history, the more south and west you go, the more organised, "civilised", higher-density population, farmer-like, European-influenced and Swedish the society, in the north it is more wild, independent, and nomadic. But you are correct, Finland does not have the same family structure of Russia, not at all. We mostly have independent nuclear families and children move out of parents very young. I would say Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland, Denmark are actually egalitarian nuclear systems, at least now and since the beginning of 21st century, or something between egalitarian and absolute nuclear. For example, in the present Finnish law, you are allowed to decide where 50% of your inheritance goes, while the rest goes equally distributed to your descendants, or to your wife.

[@eksiarvamus]

Pointless to talk about modern legislation - it's the same in pretty much most liberal democracies. This video is more about the traditional family structure and how it affects culture and ideology.

[@Merle1987]

This one is so good that I'm shocked. For some reason the more alien and messed up ones were the most fascinating. It's interesting how the anomical family structure is conducive to tyranny and the more disciplined family structures tend to have more political freedom. He explains these so well that it actually gives you a glimpse of what it must feel like to come from one of these structures.

[@caniblmolstr4503]

I am amazed that he even tried to explain Indian systems. It is not entirely correct as not even Indians can truly explain India. But I will try to explain it to the best of my abilities. Broadly speaking India can be divided into three parts The mercantile South with the assymetric family structures-states like Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka and Andhra & Telangana. But there are exceptions in the minorities in this area. My community of Syrian Christians and the sister group of Malabar Jews (Thomas the Apostle came to Kerala to proselytize to this group mainly and made the Syrian Christians). We have an authoritarian family structure with immense pride in our ancestors and traditions. Which kept us from disappearing cut off as we were from all Christian or Jew brethren. There are the Maplas (Arab settlers of Kerala) and various Muslim minorities who practise endogamous communitarian. But the overall trend here is towards an absolute nuclear family structures. The second area of India I would term it the Hindi heartlands. Here it is remarkably similar to what Rudy said so nk further explanation required. The third area for lack of a better term I would name the Bengal empire. This area is rapidly progressing towards an egalitarian family structure. Here the anomaly is the North East of India which really has family structures like that of South East Asia

[@momfoldinglaundry9963]

I live in Hawaii, which is a lot like Southeast Asia in many ways. It’s a totally anomic family system here, (with people even informally adopting other peoples’ kids sometimes,) and absolutely nothing works. LOL. People where I live always claim we live in an “illegal military occupation” from the US. To which I say, “thank goodness.” Anything else would definitely be worse!

[@peterwang5660]

@@momfoldinglaundry9963 really? How bad was it when Hawaii was independent? Is being a minority within a state an improvement? Is this videos analysis so totally correct that it is now okay just to call your culture inferior?

[@momfoldinglaundry9963]

@@peterwang5660 What on earth is your problem? I was giving a light-hearted response to a thought-provoking video. As for Hawaii, the islands havent been “independent” since the days of the Ali’i, when everyone besides the royal families were serfs. If you think stone-age subsistence family was better than the modern world with cell phones and television…okay? As for being a minority…everyone in Hawaii is a minority. There is no “majority” here. Finally, I did not say any culture is “inferior.” I love hawaii culture. In particular, I love hawaii family culture. But there is no way hawaii could ever be independent in the modern world. Like…you seriously think tiny island nations like Tonga or Micronesia are really “independent?” Ha! They’re protectorates of larger countries. That’s how the modern world works. You’re either owned by the UN or you’re owned by china/Russia. Finally, nobody in Hawaii wants to be as poor as Samoa or Micronesia. That’s why people are always moving here FROM Samoa and Micronesia, and not the other way around. Maybe calm down and stop trying to start fights with people who werent arguing with anyone.

[@stalwartarjuna]

Latin America is a terrible mix of anomic and egalitarian nuclear family structures, which explains why the region is perpetually unstable politically, why there is so much corruption at all levels of politics and society, and also how easily a personalist _caudillo_ and his cronies can establish a dictatorship every few decades. What an awful hand we've been dealt.

[@theodoremccarthy4438]

It’s not surprising that the Flexible model is popular with young men, as young men always want easy sex and minimal responsibility. The current data, however, indicates that this model is simply not competitive in terms of results, so we should not expect it to emerge as a long term trend. Instead unstable families will persist as a feature of the lower classes and that instability will contribute to keeping people trapped at the low end of the social totem poll.

[@alexander15551]

But, the flexible system is clearly not beneficial for most young men because, when there are no social constraints, the top 10% or so of men get most of the women, leaving the lower majority of men disenfranchised

[@theodoremccarthy4438]

@@alexander15551 I said it was popular with young men, not that it was good for them. You’re 100% correct that the flexible system is bad for most young men in a society. Sadly, young men often want things which aren’t good for them.

[@semi-useful5178]

@@theodoremccarthy4438 | Honestly very good that Tate got arrested. Childish cretin.

[@neongenesisevangelion587]

@@theodoremccarthy4438 you could interpret this observation as equally applying to many women, who mindlessly clamor in support of socially redistributive policies and ideologies, including promoting the culture of sexual promiscuity as a corruption of “female liberation and empowerment” since such policies take to their logical conclusion lend themselves toward developing larger scale political systems that are less equal or kind to women.

[@satyakisil9711]

You can expect men from those models to become porn addicts or develop sophisticated sex robots the most, given how southeast Asia has the world's largest brothel and sex tourism industry which includes a lot of transgender prostitutes. In a future world where men can satisfy their urges in the absence of actual women that social structure might as well be the most stable.

[@koubichahouatia8820]

I would strongly recommend reading emmanuel todd to anyone who is interested in this topic, he was the first to notice and theorize about the relationship between family structures and ideology, his entire life's work is about family structures, and he became quite famous after predicting the fall of the Soviet union in his 1976 book titled "the final fall: essay on the decomposition of the Soviet sphère" which he concluded through the study of the Russian family

[@chuck9178]

I find the egalitarian nuclear and authoritarian family pretty interesting and close to what my family is traditionally. I am from a Muslim family in India who can trace our ancestors to Uzbeks and Turkmen who migrated to India likely in the Timurid or Mughal eras. The way our family system works is not exactly like a nuclear family but isn't exactly like a clan structure either. It is certainly not endogomous as there is no clan structure (the consensus is that Turkic clan structures dissolve upon our migration to India, I am not sure how this applies however to other Turks like Anatolian or Iranian Turks). Something similar to the Authoritarian structure I found is the willingness to stick to our culture, where until my grandparent's generation we utilized Turkish names like 'Arslan, Bori, Temur, Baghdur/Bahadur etc. as well as Turkic titles like Beg/Baig or Khan. Although we do not speak Turkish anymore, our dialect of the Urdu language still does hold more Turkic words than other dialects, signifying our origin. Additionally the endonym we use for our group is 'Turk Jamat' literally meaning Turk community. Our traditional family structure is in such a way that you as a man form a family and gain land, prestige and wealth in your lifetime and upon your death you split it amongst your sons equally for them to go on and do the same thing. Although it is tempting to compare us to Exogamous communitarian, there are two parts missing in our culture compared to other Indian cultures closer to Exogamous communitarian: firstly the clan structure as many other Indians both Hindu and Muslim have names affiliating to their clan, Turks do not only having titles indicating nobility like Baig or Khan. Secondly there is no ideal of household in our culture where the patriarch governs over the family, rather in our culture military has a huge emphasis and when boys reach of age they are sent to the military, thereby breaking the patriarch's rule over the family, as only women remain who are usually married off to other families, usually other martial Muslim groups mostly fellow Turks but sometimes Pathans (Afghans) or Muslim Rajputs. Another interesting fact that you usually will not find in most studies is that most Muslims of Turkish heritage remained in India after the partition as our culture is unique compared to the Muslims of Pakistan or Bangladesh, as where they are usually of Arab, Afghan or native heritage, and have largely maintained those cultures, our culture is completely unique. With modernization and westernization, most turks (at least form my community) have fully embraced the egalitarian nuclear family (and in the case of my family as far as the colonial era). I find this interesting as Turks were a large part of the Indian revolution of 1857, and an interesting point Whatifalthist brings up is how egalitarian nuclear societies have a lot of revolutions. Going forward I find it very plausible that our society might reflect one of France more and more than one of Uzbekistan where we originally came from. Please if you are from Uzbekistan or any other Turkic society or nation for that matter, do share your cultural experiences and if they are similar to the ones I have described.

[@VaporMughal26]

I wonder if you are also from Hyderabad, India. I myself come from the same background. Although I live in Canada for all of my life. Your analysis is pretty accurate on my family's structure as well.

[@RightCenterBack321]

Wow. This is some outstanding stuff. Don't ever stop making videos.

[@NoscoperLoaf]

Suggestion: Can you make a video about how contact with extraterrestrial civilizations would affect human society?

[@Tyler_W]

That would make an interesting speculative history video. He hasn't done one of those in a while.

[@HeortirtheWoodwarden]

It really depends on what you mean by "contact". Do you mean detection by telescopes, a received message, a peaceful arrival or guns blazing?

[@answerman9933]

@@HeortirtheWoodwarden I agree on what "contact" would mean. So maybe he could present a few scenarios.

[@joshualovelace3375]

Or AI, heh

[@edc6774]

Simple: if their technology and culture is more advanced there will be only 3 options: they will exterminate us, consume our meat or use us at slaves if they don’t have any robots!

[@Classicivilization]

As Frenchman, I have many things to say. Emmanuel Todd is one of the most famous intellectuals in France. He became famous in France by saying during a TV show in 1980 "communism has only 10 years left to live, and I have the proof: the infant mortality rate is starting to rise again, whereas it had only been falling since 1945. The communist system is no longer fulfilling the function it was supposed to." And it turns out that the future has proven him right. Although one can legitimately wonder if this is only due to infant mortality... He thinks that the Brexit is a great idea, and asks the French to do the same. He is himself from an English family and believes that France should take the example of the Anglo-American model, rather than the German model, or worse, become a kind of Latin model that he hates. He also thinks that the Anglo-Saxon family model is wonderful, and if he doesn't talk about it much, it's because he thinks it's not necessary. He doesn't want to put too much pressure where it hurts, for French academics (in his way of thinking). For my part, as a Frenchman, from a Breton-Norman family, I would say that what he says is often a bit of a caricature. Bretons and Normans have a rather similar family functioning, they are even very difficult to distinguish most of the time. And this functioning is the same in Paris, London and San Francisco. Todd forces his conclusions a little too much, based on assumptions that are too broad (a criticism that is often made of him). We should be able to criticize his point of view with other research on the structures of kinship, such as that of Lévi-Strauss for example. Lévi-Strauss insists on the importance of the language family, as well as the structure of towns and villages. I think, for my part, that these distinctions are much more significant and allow for a better understanding of the current structure of states, as well as their history. But very good video nevertheless! Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

[@Paul-xu6gt]

Il reste un des intellectuels les plus intéressants, il force le trait souvent c vrai

[@WilliamSantos-cv8rr]

Thanks so much for the piece information. I actually had listened to this statement sort of 15 years ago in a public debate about the causes of the USSR, and among all of them this was the only one that made perfect sense, and have been trying to find out the source of the "theory" from time to time since then but with no success. But the argument was more sophistically developed in its effects on the population at the time. I remember that in the debate they mention that communist countries completely ruined the social cohesion, leading to atomization of the realm of trust. Also, the infant mortality rate was not the main issue but the actual fertility rate was, they were under replacement rate for quite a long period of time to the point that they had to choose in between running out of soldiers or workers, the productivity was also aligned with that as work in the soviet union was extremely harsh further more fueling the crisis. Plus, if the rumors brought by refugees were right already at the time, the actual suicide rate was even higher than it is today, affecting mostly young people.

[@ramkumardodke4695]

I'm from India and a student of history. The video and research has an evident problem of eurocentrism and viewing everything beyond it barbaric and rough. You might want to update your data on women's conditions in India. Widow burning is undeniably a dark character of Indian history but it was not that prevalent as much as you emphasized. It was practiced in a few regions among a few social classes (mostly the ruling and priestly class.castes). The maps too had many issues, like the central-western region (Maharashtra state) of India has a mix of communitarian and asymmetrical family structure.

[@MalachiCo0]

I have Scottish and Irish ancestry, and I felt all of the Authoritarian stuff hard. I feel a huge personal pressure to continue my father's line, I feel immense pride in my ethnic ancestries, and I strongly identified with the struggle against impossible odds as noble sacrifice. Also feel immensely proud of being Florida, and feel disgust with the idea of being in the same country as California New York New Jersey Texas and Alabama, all of which I hate.

[@AlphaSections]

Similar story to me, except my ancestry is from northern Spain, my family came to the USA from Colombia back in the 1960's and later came to Florida from Chicago. I can longer stand the states or people that have abandoned their past legacies in favor of so called 'progressive' ideas. The same ideas that tell them not to have children or families, to hate themselves, and to abandon personal responsibility and dignity. However I've got nothing against Texas or Alabama. I wonder what they did to you?

[@MalachiCo0]

@@AlphaSections Don't actually hate Texas or Alabama, just hyperbole. In Texas' case, it's just big state rivalry stuff. In Alabama's case, it's a "there be barbarians" type of outlook. The latter was reinforced when I drove through the state for the first time, and saw a gigantic confederate battle flag within 20 minutes of entering the state. First thought was "eeyup, I'm in Hickland alright". Also wanna add Chicago to that "genuinely hate" list now. What's been going on there lately has genuinely disgusted me.

[@masterson0713]

You hate Texas?? I hate you

[@masterson0713]

​@@AlphaSections fuck Spain and fuck your entire shitskin legacy

[@masterson0713]

​@@MalachiCo0 and what's wrong with the confederate battle flag you bigot?

[@digitalfootballer9032]

I always assumed that neoliberal/socialist/communist types were so opposed to the nuclear family because of its ties to tradition and religion, which I still see as part of the story, but after watching this video I now see it is much deeper than that. It would make sense that political groups more collectivist in their nature and views would oppose a family structure that breeds individualism, capitalism, competition, etc. Very fascinating stuff.

[@cambyses1529]

chicken->egg->chicken->egg-> chicken etc Political institutions can also control societal and family structures. This is a well known authoritarian political tool for keeping populations in check. I would treat the premise being stated in this video with considerable skepticism, personally.

[@TheRishijoesanu]

Neoliberals are pro-nuclear family

[@Ninjaananas]

Neoliberalism is highly individualistic. Your confusion comes from you simply having a lot of misconceptions about politics. Neoliberalism and socialism/communism are quite opposed ideologies.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

What does tradition and family breed individualism?

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

@@cambyses1529evrything in this video is nosense

[@TheFrenchGenius]

Family structure does seem like part of the answer, but as we always say correlation is not causation. For example, I think boiling down a society’s psychology to their family structure ignores non-conforming families. Overall it seems like a good fit but something is missing from this model.

[@georgek5737]

It also doesn't take into account external factors that may change peoples' behaviour and views. For example although we in Greece have the egalitarian family structure because of being under Ottoman rule for 400 years there is a sense of nationalism. Not about extension of the state but in terms of resilience.

[@thespanishinquisition8617]

I'm not necessarily a fan of this channel, and I agree that there were probably many gross oversimplifications, but while this fifty minute summary of a still underdeveloped theory may be insufficient what it proposes is electrifying. Family and patterns of family structure is all to often neglected by historians favoring individual personalities or broader social circumstances.

[@pechaa]

Yes! Correlation is not causation! Isn’t it possible that the governance structures lead to or at least reinforce or procreate the family structures? Especially because throughout billions of years of natural history, diversity is everywhere, including among human social structures. I agree it’s wonderfully useful to consider the interplay between family structures and other social and political characteristics, but I don’t see how any characteristics universally derive from common family structures. In my own case, I grew up in a patriarchal nuclear family, reinforced (and, I might argue, imposed) by the patriarchal Catholic Church that my ancestors brought with them from Eastern Europe to the Great Plains of the U.S. But my father moved us away from his urban ethnic neighborhood, and my siblings and I were exposed to diverse ideas and family structures. When we formed a nuclear family of our own, my (proudly Irish-American) partner and I took our cues from the broader Democratic ideals around us, and our family is highly egalitarian and democratic. None of my siblings formed a nuclear family.

[@taralynnhoffmann5831]

I agree. I lived in Quebec for 27 years. There is zero family structure there or social/community cohesion. People have very socially isolated lives. Quebec has one of the highest rates of seniors in homes in the world - and children dont generally stay with mom and dad very long. Or should I say mom or dad. They have some of the highest rates of divorce in the world. Yet their propensity for communism is probably the strongest in the western world. It's an anecdote but it's a glaring example of how this theory has notable exceptions. * and he is comparing Quebec to Japan and Germany. Quebec society is not rigid and organized like Germany and Japan whatsoever. Quebec society is chaos, they are renowned for their lack of organizational skills and basic logic. They do have a propensity for communism/authoritarianism , inviting the Catholic church to rule them with a heavy hand and then changing that religion for matriarchism and more recently the covid cult. They are fanatical but chaotic and Germany and Japan are very structured and disciplined cultures. In Quebecois the word discipline directly translated refers to blind obedience and not the way we think about it in the German or NA cultures as being a sort of duty. The average emotional intelligence of the population is also a major difference between Quebec and Germany/Japan. Its insulting for anyone who is not part of the "collectivity of the Quebec nation" to listen to their politicians talk (like retarded 5 year olds). If politicians talked down to the people like that in Getmany they'd be thrown out immediately. In Quebec that is how you win the adoration of the population.

[@NeoWish]

@@dinosauro9546 just like real world

[@bakshev]

Anglo-Saxon family structure is the best Written by: Anglo-Saxons. Boy, I wonder how this works.

[@papafrancisc1774]

Stopped watching after the phrase: “Balkans were part of Soviet Union”

[@mrpancakes1984]

Yeah, guy doesen't even knows basic facts. Its like saying Vietnam is part of the Soviet Union because they are communist xD I guess Cuba is also part of the USSR?

[@user-sm5sj6mg2t]

Kind of interesting it was for me that, as a person from the "egalitarian nuclear" system, your description of our family system was kind of what I would think *the family* is. As in, the standard measurement by which I'd judge families. Learning about one's own biases is fun.

[@thisiswheezie]

My peers get irritated that i send text walls on whats going on in my life cos I need their approval before i make a decision. But that's what you get when your community was built by the french.

[@tomasck2973]

@Carlos Adrián Aguirre and why they celebrate christmas only with their immediate family

[@stormstaunch6692]

@@carlosadrianaguirre8579As an American myself, I can confirm that our culture does indeed value immediate family far more than extended family. I’ve barely known or had contact with my extended family my whole life, and yet I really don’t care. Something which would be unthinkable in a more extended family based culture. Here in America, if you give your life for your parents or children, it will be seen as noble. If you give your life for your second cousin, then while it may still be seen as a good thing, it won’t be seen as any more so than if it was a random stranger.

[@JaquaviousDamian]

@@thisiswheezie Average Frenchman

[@ericquiabazza2608]

Most of all the Absolute nuclear bad stuff is ignore or just absent on the book (2 pages, sounds like censure) After all, its a book sold in a Ansolute nuclear (capitalist) centric economy and ideology, they dont want bad press. And the thing is you can guess the bad stuff yourself as Absolute is between Egalitarian and authoritarian. So is like 70% of Authritarian, the same as europe, whel the US is more as its political spectrum censure leftist (egalitarian) ideas like public health care. And that is the thing, as an mostly aithoritarian the US is agressives as attacks (calling it "defend") other to stablish its power and assett its status. Is also why South america swap from socialist to capitalist, the capitalist part is a remanent impose since the 70' and operation condor. Like the kill of the socialist chilean president and impose of capitalist friendly regime of pinochet.

[@billlhooo6485]

Together we are strong. Being alone is harder because you are the only one supporting yourself. If you have a large family who care for each other, you get things done faster. Financially and mentally so yeah the more the family that is good. :Example you have 5 brother who work together that earn 40k per year that 200k per year. They would be millionaires in about 5 years if they invested it to make more.

[@pizzanutzz4564]

If most families lived like this in your area it would raise the cost of living meaning that 200k would not be that much as 40k for one person is also not that much

[@DaFinkingOrk]

I think the mental aspect you mentioned could be why people in authoritarian and individualist family structures seem some of the least happy and have the most emotionally unwell people despite their society's great wealth and stability. Especially in the authoritarian ones like Japan and Germany, a bit less so in the Anglosphere but still extreme compared to the world as a whole. It's a kind of society that makes people feel very alone and that there's a lot of weight they must carry by themselves, high expectations and high risk of failure. Finally, the high level of freedom in the Anglosphere is good (but leads to having to make so many decisions and dealing with many dilemmas and the associated stress), but the level of freedom in Japan, Germany is also paradoxical on top of that. I mean that while legal, economic and religious freedom is enormous, the duty-bound and strict unspoken codes you must follow means there is a lot less freedom in reality, or at least that people *feel* a lot less free. Although people do also seem pretty miserable in the ex-Mongol empire too though, and sub-Saharan Africa (but that last one is hard to separate from the universal poverty and violence for me). People in other systems seem more chill and happy on average and there seemingly are less depressed, depraved or neurotic people, which are becoming so common in some countries that this is their most obvious weakness. Their evolution into something else could eventually come via atomisation of society so much that society dissolves, and such widespread mental/emotional illness and isolation that too many people stop being productive, lose contact with society itself, stop breeding, and leave their form of society taking up other forms (or more likely just die out).

[@canchero724]

If you don't mind following the tenets of your religion to the word this is perfect. You will never question anything, and you will never make it to resources like this channel which makes you want to think outside your culture.

[@no_se_nada_de_nada]

Lol, that's exactly how latino familes work, but that doesn't really work in a capitalist system, because in this system individuality and competition is the key to success, that's why we are still poor.

[@caliboy09]

In Argentina, the whole dynamic is more social than in America. Everyone lives close together and all the kids play in the neighborhood and all the parents drink mate. In America you have to text your friends and figure out when and where you can meet. In Argentina you just do it.

[@CStone-xn4oy]

This is extremely eye opening! I never considered this but it makes logical sense that family structure would explain ideological disagreements because the family, whatever form it takes, is the universally standard unit of a society.

[@lostvayne3977]

I believe the prescence of exogamous communitarian families in Italy and France is largely to do with “house” systems that were largely present in Ancient Rome. For example, Julius Caesar was the paterfamilias of the Julii household. However, the family does not necessarily always live under the same roof, but more under the same family ‘banner’, rather, in a linked group of nuclear families, leading to much much less interfamilial strife in contrast to Asia Edit: also the family title of paterfamilias was passed on rather than split apart, further preserving the unity of the family throughout generations

[@ninamartin1084]

Interesting how the 'house' concept still exists in pockets - boarding schools, the world of fashion/haute couture and even transgender communities in USA and probably elsewhere...........

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@ninamartin1084 how transgenders fit this is beyond.

[@Jorvaskrr]

@@kordellswoffer1520 Always an idiot trying to shoehorn their mental illness into everything.

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

The family is important, that's why today's anti family rhetoric is so disheartening.

[@FR4NKYEtheIV]

The authoritarian family structure makes a lot of sense for us Czechs. First, we have been under a bigger authority for most of our history but always defied it. Secondly, there were great shifts in our history: from Catholicism to Protestantism to atheism, from capitalism to communism back to capitalism. Very interesting video!

[@KohaAlbert]

As Estonian, "Exogamous communitarian", if I'm capable to understand it correctly, is rather exotic.

[@Paul-xu6gt]

Correction here: I ve read almost all of Todd’s recent books, he corrected that the Jew family is not part of the authoritarian stem family, it’s nuclear and liberal, with a strong emphasis on knowledge and transmission, it s in his 2017 book « ou en sommes nous », and in 1970 he didn’t know yet how Thse family structures spread, it’s from the center to peripheral regions, you should make another video on his more recent books, it’s fascinating, and this guy is very funny too

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

I would say it depends on the location of the family. I know some Jewish families, and their views on family vary greatly based on where they originate. The only common denominator is they are all ethno-centric, with all the other aspects being traits picked up from the host culture. If anything Jews are their own structure.

[@Destroyer754]

Jews are a confederation of very large Jewish clans that prize admixture between themselves and even outside. Just not the Mongolian clans you’ll most likely imagine. Diaspora localities, sub-religious groups, politically divided and mobilized Jewish groups and so on.

[@mlemmage8449]

As a Chinese-American, I think this video reinforces my previous notion that communism works in China but not in America partially due to its collectivist society and family structure, though I was never able to figure out why other countries with family structires bigger than nuclear ones such as Japan or SE Asia didn't go communist last century. Great video! Edit: I misspoke, I mean communism and communist movements were more accepted there, not that it works. Neither China or Russia are really communist anymore, more of a corrupt form of capitalism. Woops

[@tomasvrabec1845]

And to me it reinforced my theory where the communitarian governments seemed to arise within the larger family structures such as were most of the Slavs and the Chinese. Even Poland who is nuclear, I know they still interact and know their cousins and extended family. More like a bunch of nuclear families working together.

[@mostlyguesses8385]

.. Til 1900 were most Chinese rice farmers or around rice farmers so to them a women could plant rice well, and whole village as team was needed to flood fields and any rebel not pitching in was hated. Rice made China into Communist? It takes long time to change culture, we re stuck with what our greatgrandparents found worked as farmers and without medicine, so 100 years back. . . . Keeping warm is other goal beside food, and in North that changed us, not sure how, made us turn off brain for 6 months of winter and just conserve energy for spring, literally taught us laziness??

[@kordellswoffer1520]

Communism didn't work in China either. It doesn't work as a social and economic theory, it why China struggled for decades and the Russians struggled and were abused.

[@troystreacker8829]

Japan didn’t go Community bc it was American occupied. Vietnam is still communist “in writing” And the rest of SE Asia, minus Singapore, tried to go communist it just resulted in a lot of death and limited economic development. Singapore broke away from Malaysia to enact a radical, dictatorship/unhindered capitalist agenda which worked only bc of its size. It’s a single city that is a country, anything bigger wouldn’t have been able to be controlled in the same way.

[@mlemmage8449]

@@kordellswoffer1520 Yeah my bad. I meant to say it was more accepted and adopted there, edited my original comment. The family structure over there I think mimics the communes that the government implimented, in the sense that everyone lived under the same roof as a same unit, answering to an authority figure with seemingly absolute power. Thats how families were traditionally run, and to my knowledge a really simple explanation of how communes were run. But needless to say, you are correct in saying that communism failed in China and Russia

[@amazjunelee]

One of the most interesting videos I have seen in a while and that is really saying something. Thank you so much for putting this together. Excellently articulated 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Yha1000itz]

Probably your best video I had seen. I totally enjoyed it.

[@Andres-uw2kf]

As a Hispanic, many of the Anglo people I have met seem to be quite reserved, cold, and logical. Though it comes off as rude and disrespectful to me, I understand how that system works proficiently

[@RK-bx1by]

I've had a somewhat similar experience here in Australia. The Anglos are really nice and will go out of their way to help you if needed, but they are not interested in being your friend.

[@c4call]

I'm scandinavian and not "anglo" but I gotta say, I find it so weird when people refer to the culture or the people of the culture as being "cold" or "reserved", because while I can be extremely logical and desire for my children to achieve more than myself, such desire drives me to lavish affection on my children. My family is extremely love-ie and gushy and mushy in interpersonal situations... but it's when there's a task or job to be done, that we furrow our brows, replace the grin with a scowel, and focus intently on the task at-hand, to make sure we do it right the first time.

[@nicolasgrant9131]

@@c4call As someone of Scandinavian and Hispanic ascendance, I can assure you that when Hispanics refer to the people as "cold" or "reserved", it is not because they think you are incapable of feeling affection or intimacy with your dear ones, but rather because there is almost no open warmness directed at strangers, which is by the way is a very common practice in many of said Hispanic countries. It is not uncommon to walk in a public space and suddenly be engaged by someone walking by or a person that just happens to be sitting next to you, they usually talk to you about anything from personal things like their life story, friendships to politics and hobbies. In conclusion I would say that from my personal experience and life in both the "anglo" countries and the Hispanic ones, people from the latter are used to have more lax boundaries when it comes to the personal life that the ones from the former, thus making them feel uncomfortable when they face a culture that has more rigid barriers when it comes to getting to know another person.

[@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367]

It is disrespectful! Haha but its more logical in emergencies

[@MilanElan]

@@nicolasgrant9131 Exactamente

[@Parvenu90]

I haven't seen a video on KZbin that explains the world's societal structures so well. Thanks @Whatifalthist. I wrote down all the reference books. This is the reason I love sociology.

[@FayotSonic]

@@broctheil4744 Emmanuel Todd "The explanation of ideology" and Fernand Braudel "Identity of France"

[@dysprosiumdead5078]

gad damn this is mbti for history

[@KingPinMemer]

Love your content, incredibly educational thank you

[@kaminojihashimori331]

Watching this video was a revelation. I am an ethnic swede with a Japanese cultural fascination (as visible from my screen name and profile picture) and I gained this facination because of a (quite bad) retelling of the tale of the 47 ronin, a story of 46 people made the ultimate sacrifice to avenge their dead lord. I also have an overbearing parent, suped up because i am the only male descendant. I also have a girlfriend from one of the other cultural groups, that most of the time doesn't understand when I go about things like the loyalty and honour that the 47 displaced, much like the anecdote that WhatIfAltHist mentioned. And I found it amusing that the mottos of our last two Kings translated mean "For Sweden, through the ages" and "Duty before all". That is all from me, I really love the content. Have a good one.

[@DaFinkingOrk]

Interesting how Sweden bucks the trend of being split up into many different countries like Germany and Japan have often been. Sweden is so stable and unified consistently that it seems more like an Anglosphere country. I don't know enough about Sweden to know why, but it's interesting.

[@kaminojihashimori331]

@@DaFinkingOrk Sweden spent much of the early middle ages as separate kingdoms and an entity known as Sweden didn't pop up until the mid 1200. Which formed from the conquest of neighbouring kingdoms spreading out from the new capitol of Stockholm by Birger Jarl who was the first "king" of Sweden. But Sweden as it is today, was formed after a short Danish conquest by Christian II of Denmark during the start of the 16th century. The reason for the Invasion was that Sweden had broken out of the Kalmar union, a state that contained Sweden (and it's Finnish holdings), Norway (with Iceland) and Denmark. With the Danish royals as the supreme power. When we pulled out of the union the Danish considered it unlawful and Christian I of Denmark launched a campaign against Stockholm where he suffered a crushing defeat after a sabotaged bridge caused part of his army to fall into the ocean and drown. As retribution for this his close descendant Christian II did the same thing. but he succeeds in occupying Sweden. After he did he did he convened the Swedish high nobility and it's arch bishop to a meeting where they were assured that they would all be left alone. But it was a deception which lead to all of their, and many more executions. making 82 in total. This event would come to be known as Stockholm's Bloodbath, and grant Christian II the moniker "Christian the Tyrant." One of the Noble's sons named Gustav Vasa would set out on a journey north to get the help of The Dalecarlians who held a near monopoly on the Swedish weapons and Steel production and after his tense journey filled with funny anecdotes I won't mention because this post is already way way too long, he instigates a rebellion against the Danes and repels their occupation, becoming crowned as Gustav I and forming "Modern" Sweden. Another testament to our refusal to die off or be conquered. As a Dalecarlian I take pride in my ancestors role in the creation of my homeland. That is all for me and I never expected to make this crazy long comment. Also don't take my words as gospel, this is just what I can remember from the top of my head. if you want to know more I suggest reading a history book.

[@monotonewombat9912]

I am a Lao American with a white American Father and a Laotian Mother. The section about anomic family structure really helped me understand why Laos seems like such an underwhelming nation and society with a lot of lost potential. I think I subconsciously follow the absolute nuclear family structure as I currently live in the united states and generally conform to the American culture although I'm not sure. These concepts haven't really been coded into me by my American Father a) because he's not very authoritative and b) I lived in Laos and partook in Laotian society for crucial parts of my childhood (6-11). I think the general anarchy of family structure that you mentioned does help explain what my mother describes as widespread "Laziness." I think it also partially explains the notoriously Laotian concept of "Trust no-one, and be as lazy as possible." It's hard to put into words all of this is + simply how relatable these explanations are and I thank you so much for introducing me to this knowledge i wouldn't have thought of on my own.

[@PhotonTrooperGaming]

Do you think that anomic structures can offer something good to society? It is a peculiar system for me

[@monotonewombat9912]

@@PhotonTrooperGaming Absolutely not, I don't think there's a particularly "good" family structure, especially not the Anomic one, and people should follow the family structure that best suits them.

[@PhotonTrooperGaming]

@@monotonewombat9912 good take. Thanks for the report about your personal experience

[@EchoLog]

@@PhotonTrooperGaming as an American who's a mosaic of cultures, predominantly authoritarian frenchyness and communitarian and anomic everywhere-elseyness, I'll tell you a mixture is a hell of a lot more comfortable than locking yourself down to just one. But maybe that's just me finding it easier to not change based on my influences.

[@encahill]

Irish here and can confirm that at least historically the eldest son would have inherited the farm, usually then the others would be sent to school and college and pushed into professions .. including clerical My grandfather did inherit and his brothers were all sent to med and dental school .. that way everyone gets a good beginning and the land remains strongly in the family. No system is perfect but here we value family and independence above everything.

[@wooddavid8293]

This video changes the way I look at the world. Thank you.

[@Azusashusband]

I've noticed as a Korean we tend to obsess over something we like let it be as simple as an idol group or as strange as a type of chocolate. Maybe the family system we have has something to do with it? And the family system would explain why Korea keeps splitting up. 3 Kingdoms Period, A (very unstable) United country, later 3 Kingdoms Period, Goryeo Dynasty (actually pretty decent and united), Joseon Dynasty (was also good till mid-end of the dynasty then it went to heck and corruption was rampant), Oh look now it's 2 again

[@awuma]

There's a great serial made over 20 years ago enacting the history of a thousand years ago. It was shown on Korean TV in Los Angeles and it became my addiction 🙂 (despite hilariously translated subtitles). I wonder whether an English subtitled DVD collection of this serial is available.

[@roadbone1941]

I had a dream of meeting King Sejong in the afterlife. He's not happy Korea is split.

[@Azusashusband]

@Edric Boneham I think he'd be angrier about the fact we got run over by the Japanese but when he was alive that could never happen.

[@Mr1998Brandonify]

Since I ran into this creator on nick freitas podcast, I’ve come to love the info rudyard shares. At 22 he’s developed skills for presenting info beyond his years.

[@HadoukenBeats]

I wouldn’t say it’s accurate in general, but the concept is interesting anyway. Hope there will be more researches of this correlation in future.

[@WilliamSantos-cv8rr]

It is definitely 48 minutes of the best time I spent on the internet in the entire year. I have to say that being an actual migrant in my own country (Brazil) prior to moving to Australia. The video hits hard on the cultural shocks I have experienced regarding the differences in family structure. Also, it explains well why foreigner descents communities keep a sense of division between them and us, they kept their family structures.

[@fitito500]

William you see, about history of the 60, 70s of Latinoamérica'....when he put the "results" of "the families in Latinoamérica" he put a lot of photographies of dictators and dictatorships from the 60, 70s' ho was promoted by USA, not for the people of Latinoamérica they (USA) wanted to stop the influence of communist Russia in latam......that hypothesis about the family and the resulting government is just so naif...or just tricky, dishonest....some anglos tend to think everything in black and white and you know the world it's not that easy

[@wesleyrm]

Ih, BR kkk

[@Mipetz38]

It would make a good case to study how American system has been under constant change due to immigration, Italian mafias, Hispanic (I'm latino btw) overtake of Florida and now rise of Black people, the system is starting to show its weaknesses

[@GamesXanimeX3]

Pelo o que eu vejo na net pelos comentários/experiencias do pessoal os nossos imigrantes só se isolam/isolaram em comunidades bem pequenas quando não querem se misturar que nem nas aldeias e vilarejos étnicos no interior, quem vive na cidade interage de um jeito ou de outro, até mesmo os mais ricos

[@misanek007]

I looked at the part of absolute nuclear family. It is always important to remember that as people, we are always ethnocentric in our thinking. We always judge other cultures based on the lens of our own culture. As a eastern European, I can just say, that the English (the Anglo-Saxon world) are strange breed indeed. Alexander Dugin called it a schizofrenic society between Celtic and Germanic roots. From the perspective of my culture, I would find schizofrenic a bit too harsh, but confused seems to be spot on for me. The combination of what you call egalitarian nuclear and authoritarian structures seems to be most likely what Dugin calls the Celtic and Germanic roots. Of course, it makes sense that using confused for your own people is demeaning, so the correct way to say it, for your own kind would be the best combination of both. With this speech, I have realized how we all are incredibly biased towards our own native culture, it is a good thing on one hand, as we should love what is our own more, than what is not our own, but it is a bad thing on the other hand, as this can create enmity between people and nations.

[@florianfasquelle5212]

even French people like me feels like America is kind of weird sometimes

[@moritamikamikara3879]

You... listen to Dugin? I'd uhh... recommend not doing that XD