How the Nuclear Family Broke Down

[@TheAtlantic]

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[@aditya_it_is]

Showing something as wrong & something as right is influencing people. Let people choose, show every idea equally ✌️

[@esoislife9961]

The family they are talking about doesn't exist anymore either. They broke everything apart

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

- Deliberately comes off as insulting and irritating concerning a massive and tragic topic. - “I hope you’ll go read my piece.”

[@Fiatlux2024]

​@@esoislife9961 It still does exist among more affluent families ir those hanging on for dear life... But what murdered the family model was feminism and radical left wing politics which is why it all came to a hault in the mid 1960's.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"The 1960s were the era of 'flower power,' and it seems like many people decided to spread their 'seeds' far and wide. Just don't call them 'unconventional' - that's just code for 'out of wedlock'."

[@agarrandoviaje5425]

As a child of a single parent, please don’t let your kids to grow up without a father or a mother.

[@agarrandoviaje5425]

Froggy Noddy We need nuclear families to advance as a species. Check the stats, children who grow up without a dad are more likely to end up in prison or become drug addicts. A lot go on to join gangs just to seek guidance or acceptance from others.

[@JoeMcknart69]

its usually not by choice...

[@prod7906]

Starting a family is the new counter culture.

[@sojournsojourntraveler1203]

Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA in her activities to destroy the Nuclear family

[@j4m3s1]

😂😂😂shut up

[@jayobsia4699]

The modern family is now an over-worked, lonely single mother. No more father, uncles, aunts, etc... It's a tragedy.

[@mosesdavid5536]

Modern african american families*

[@SpacedudeProductions]

@@mosesdavid5536 no, modern families. White people go through the same problems as do Asians and Muslims and all other ethnicities.

[@OtsileM]

Supposedly, it started out of tragedy anyway - as "an economic unit" of farm hands, business partners and slaves. Can't think of anything more depressing.

[@ironmantis25]

@@SpacedudeProductions Immigrant families are actually pretty intact.

[@SpacedudeProductions]

@@ironmantis25 in general in the US

[@SoniaSephia]

Coming from a large extended family. I have benefited from it a lot. I have dozens of cousins that are like extended siblings!

[@magnusorn7313]

@The Fool inuits break from the nuclear model any time a traveler passes through to prevent inbreeding

[@colorfulcodes]

Same!

[@SoniaSephia]

@@colorfulcodes yeah!😀

[@JRobbySh]

Marriage was an essential part of the extended family. All your cousins were blood kin. The “modern”family is quite different. Children are not wanted.

[@colonelautism9957]

@@JRobbySh Its not a family then a family without the young has no future

[@hgoodman9]

A video about how the nuclear family broke down ironically doesn’t actually explain how it broke down. I wonder what happened in the 1960’s that initiated the break down of many of the societal investments that made the nuclear family even possible 🤔🧐

[@BearingMySeoul]

It's mentioned around 2:11... a booming economy. (White) men could make enough money to support a household on their own meaning their wives could stay home and manage the household (or hire someone to do it). Without high incomes, the whole system breaks down and you need an extended family structure to survive.

[@AllAmericanDreamChaser]

@@BearingMySeoul Bill Cosby was making enough also. He wasn't white.😀👍

[@BearingMySeoul]

@@AllAmericanDreamChaser Yes but for ordinary black families (including all my relatives) both husband and wife worked regardless of what year it was in America!

[@AllAmericanDreamChaser]

@@BearingMySeoul The big difference was most working families white or black had pension plans that allowed for retirement. Today most Americans will be forced to work until they die. The homeless rates have jumped dramatically all across America. Families are broken and the gap between rich and poor continues to widen.

[@50centpb7]

Feminism. The mass mobilization of women into the workforce has made it effectively impossible for families to support themselves on a single income, in most instances. Supply of labor x 2 = (cost of labor ÷ 2)

[@utubefreshie]

I come from a culture where the nuclear or extended family is still strong and I don't think I would have it any other way. I'm Filipino and I have never lived alone in my life except for the 2 years of my separation from my ex-husband in America which were the most miserable years of my life. I'm single now but I still choose not to live alone. I honestly would rather deal with the little annoyances and irritations of living with another person than living alone. I have never gotten used to it nor do I think I ever will. In my culture, it's almost unthinkable (and also actually impossible) to live alone. Because of so many reasons -- financial and social. People don't earn enough to afford houses in which to live alone but also, they wouldn't want to or wouldn't have the opportunity to. Because you will always have parents or siblings or grandparents and cousins who will need to be housed. And I know this is unthinkable to Westerners but to most cultures outside of the west, the opposite -- living alone in isolation -- is what is unthinkable. The downsides are of course the lack of freedom and independence in a way. But the blessings are also so much more -- I'm single but not lonely; I don't have to eat my dinners alone; I will always have emotional support; I will not die alone. It's all that. But like I said, it's cultural. I personally just wouldn't want it any other way for myself.

[@livreliseur1356]

utubefreshieagn Well as the author stated “Nuclear family is privilege for wealthy”

[@quisqueyanguy120]

@@livreliseur1356 It's the other way around. The nuclear family existed as a nucleous of groups of related extended families for thousands of years. It's a product of evolution that can be found in cultures as far from each other as the Inuits and Ethiopians. This video is progressive propaganda, is bullshit. They are actively trying to negate thousands of years of history in the name of "progress".

[@JRobbySh]

I assume that marriage and kids were integral to that family. Today marriage is a dying institution.

[@PeteS_1994]

@@quisqueyanguy120 That's the problem. Nowadays a nuclear family is less likely to have extended family, that it communicates a lot with and if you aren't making much and both parents work hard it probably hard for them to find community that can act like extended family. The wealthier families can afford childcare, therapy, people to do housework that it's easier for them to provide adequate support to the kids.

[@colonelautism9957]

@@livreliseur1356 Bullshit

[@mrt094]

I was raised by a single mother and she did her best and I turned out pretty well in terms of career and success so fortunately able not become another statistic. But now I am coming to terms with the deficiencies I have mentally, socially and personally by not having a father in my life while also ONLY having a female influence from the parenting side.

[@garyoakham9723]

Vote Biden. We can do it

[@cal8362]

@@garyoakham9723 let's go Brandon! Democrat policies have killed the family. A BLM stated goal was destruction of the nuclear family

[@squamish4244]

@@cal8362 Sources that are not Fox News please.

[@squamish4244]

You were raised by a single mother with no male presence at all. If your father is still in your life even if they are divorced, it's different.

[@casaninchiify]

The deficiencies usually come to being a simp in relationships with women. Single mothers usually raise sons who they would never be in a romantic relationship with.

[@wilhelmheinrich7502]

In short, the boomers killed it.

[@2010sinnamon]

Wilhelm Heinrich they kill everything

[@kendrabuttersworth3886]

They’re awful.

[@Savadorason1]

-The next generation will say the millennials were lazy & didn't fix it.

[@JB-kx9bx]

I don't think it's fair to blame boomers. A big part is a combination of circumstances. Jobs are more demanding, stressful, and dont pay enough to stay out of debt and save. People have to move far away from family for work and have no support network to start their own families.

[@livreliseur1356]

Blame game starts with Boomers and ends with Gen-x..... is that so or shall it continue.

[@garalynbearcrane8057]

Every human needs a family, were a social and physical species. Whether you make your own or are born into one our current society doesn't have the social engineering that supports a family structure. Life is still moving forward and with that hope for more than we have today.

[@garalynbearcrane8057]

@Black Knight Fool not if we are all involved in the process, then it's a choice. Even now we all make small choices that determine the future and future generations. We choose our "people", and in that small way create boundaries rules of conduct decide amongst themselves what is acceptable appreciate not tolerable and the consequences of those behaviors and actions. We are all participants in one way or another. Including with the statement you make here today.

[@garalynbearcrane8057]

@Black Knight Fool I'm not a feminist or care much for LGBT issues. I'm a crow woman who is a very feminine, not feminist. I'm a stay at home mom of 6 kids I'm a believer of my own tribes spiritual beliefs and values. I have no husband or belong to anyone but the creator. I'm also a Republican so in American society I don't fit in any group that doesn't like one thing or another that I do. In short I'm a non Christian Republican who believes in my tribes traditional matriarchal values and has no desire to propagate the feminist movement or anything that has to do with taking away our constitutional rights freedoms and liberties. Nice talking with you

[@zenairzulu1378]

good words

[@emuriddle9364]

My family is toxic. Nobody bothers to adopt me. If anyone wants to know what Hell feels like, there you go.

[@alexandramn6734]

@@emuriddle9364 same here. I even have kids but they're severely autistic and couldn't stay with me. This chosen family crap is bullshit. Most people do not give a shit about other people. They care more about dogs.

[@youngsavagefury7138]

I grow up without my dad. I became a man based on how I saw the world. I went through darkness before becoming wise. No matter how old a kid gets they will always wonder it was like to grow up with their father and grow angry at both parents

[@danabe3220]

My nuclear and extended family are very close. The support we give each other is priceless. Love and respect for one another is the key. I know that is lacking in many families.

[@Fiatlux2024]

Exactly. My nuclear family has had its bumps in the road, because not everybody agrees and is somewhat dysfunctional, but our goals remain steady. My nuclear family follows traditional family values as does many families in the rest of the world with the exception of America and some other countries, there is no school like the old school... My family is an economic unit that helps make the farm work in principle. Only now, in 2024, the farm has been replaced by an entrepreneurial mindset and a system of small business oriented structure and hierarchy. Those who do not do their job or wish not to participate do not get a share of the profits and are free to pursue their own desires on their own. Everyone else that stays together, pays together and gets a equal share of the profits produced by the work that they do that benefits the family on a project by project basis as are any losses. The modern disressed family model that has taken over in America consists of an "each person for themselves" structure which is a waste of time, money and overall resources. But, corporate america loves it because it makes them very very rich. Traditional nuclear extended families operate like small business that pool their time, money and overall resources to benefit the family. If a relationship failed or somebody died theres always someone to pick up the slack. We take care of our own. Who you write a check to is who you make rich. 💯

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

But on a more serious note, the 1960s did mark a significant shift in societal attitudes towards family and relationships. With the rise of feminism, sexual liberation, and changing cultural values, people were more open to exploring alternative forms of family structures, including single-parent households, blended families, and non-traditional relationships. And let's be real, a lot of those "bastards" grew up to be awesome individuals who made their own way in the world!

[@apuapustaja1958]

When a person lives alone they pay more and have less. 1 person needs 1 home 2 people need 1 home 3 people need 1 home 4 people need 1 home See how it's beneficial to split up families?

[@syrenematin4676]

It's a money maker, split up four people get four mortgages/rents/property taxes etc Then those four people stop relying on each other for comfort get 4 therapy sessions, 4 grocery bills, 4 credit card/student loan balances..

[@apuapustaja1958]

@@syrenematin4676 Yes and the oddest thing is that BLM is against the Nuclear Family.

[@apuapustaja1958]

@Mike Ghibelline Yeah the majority of people don't think for themselves. My gramps always told me to watch the herd never to be part of it. Made life tough at times, but at key moments you save your hide.

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

Hell no. Go to Eastern cultures. No privacy, have to live by the rules etc. What we need is economic changes not extended families. If you're 18+ you should move out lol

[@apuapustaja1958]

@KA go to the Wayback machine and find the BLM mission statement and you will see them spell it out lol

[@lioness5838]

I find western family system depressing and it is slowly creeping here too..... No grandma grandpa uncle aunt cousins living together....

[@HH-ni5hm]

Theyd corrupt your lands with immorality and call it "progress". Its not like you can do anything about it though. Theyll force you to allow divorce. Theyll destroy the idea of marriage between man and woman. They want to create a generation of bastards with no fear of God and with no identity, no better than beasts.

[@Ali08]

I think family is a social construct. People will say history has proven otherwise but the world is always changing and our ideal of a "family structure" will become something different in the future. No thanks to multigenerational living too. People really need to take into account whose living in the house, their influence on the young relatives, and not to mention the the different personalities.

[@Ali08]

@@HH-ni5hm Why are children called bastards? Is this one of the many ways to believe children of married couple is more "blessed" than ones who are not?

[@HH-ni5hm]

@@Ali08 Because they are, sadly... Kids who didnt have a father or mother growing up tend to look for something that will fill the gap. Its human nature to do so. More often what they do to cope for this can be dangerous to their being.

[@HH-ni5hm]

@@Ali08 The unconditional love that only a mother/father can give to their children. People write songs and poems about it but why are we now trying to take that away from our kids?

[@twittyfatcat8562]

I'm from Mexico and I grew up in a kingship group. My hometown population was around 7000 people and somehow we are all related to each other. 😁 In the street where I grew up many of my neighbors were my cousins, uncles, aunts, great-aunts and uncles, etc... When we used to play hide and seek it took a long time to find everyone because we could go around everyone's house to look for them. I had a great childhood but yeah it's hard to find privacy. And if you want to be more individual, it doesn't look good. Also because family is very important men and women are pressure to marry and start a family very young and if not they will see you as odd and they will tell you that you will end up dressing up saints.

[@livreliseur1356]

Twitty Fatcat Yeah, I agree. The tough one, apart from privacy, is that everyone has to agree and permit - the opinion keeps changing. In my case my mom always stood by me.

[@Jayshreeusedtomakevidoes]

Apart from privacy sounds super fun

[@jitendrakumarsingh135]

As an Indian, I can relate to you.

[@mctransportation9831]

How do tou find a romantic mate if everyone is related?

[@LAVirgo67]

@@mctransportation9831 You go to other towns.

[@YousefBenIsreal]

This is a grossly over simplified explanation for the phenomenon. The nuclear family existed long before the United States even existed so to tie it to economic changes understates exactly what's going on.

[@keithhunt5328]

Most cultures have extended families.

[@christophermiller3031]

One coworker from India explained how proud he was of how common it is for the family to live together across generations... It's interesting to ponder the culture surrounding extended family units... in all honesty... I can NOT imagine living with all my family O M G

[@utubefreshie]

I honestly think that only people from community-oriented cultures understand this. I'm Filipino and I have never lived alone in my life except for the 2 years of my separation from my ex-husband in America which were the most miserable years of my life. I'm single now but I still choose not to live alone. I honestly would rather deal with the little annoyances and irritations of living with another person than living alone. I have never gotten used to it nor do I think I ever will. In my culture, it's almost unthinkable (and also actually impossible) to live alone. Because of so many reasons -- financial and social. People don't earn enough to afford houses in which to live alone but also, they wouldn't want to or wouldn't have the opportunity to. Because you will always have parents or siblings or grandparents and cousins who will need to be housed. And I know this is unthinkable to Westerners but to most cultures outside of the west, the opposite -- living alone in isolation -- is what is unthinkable. The downsides are of course the lack of freedom and independence in a way. But the blessings are also so much more -- I'm single but not lonely; I don't have to eat my dinners alone; I will always have emotional support; I will not die alone. It's all that. But like I said, it's cultural. I personally just wouldn't want it any other way for myself.

[@christophermiller3031]

@@utubefreshie mmmmm your ability to explain your perspective so well makes me happy. it IS really interesting how the constraints of a culture shape the social foundations.

[@utubefreshie]

@@christophermiller3031 Thanks. So yeah, I live in the US now but grew up in the Philippines. I've been living in the US for 15 years but for the life of me, still CANNOT get used to nor understand the very individualistic/solitary/isolating culture here. I think that's why people are anxious and depressed. It makes me sad to see people live that way and makes me think that I don't want to get old here (and I sure as hell ain't lol).

[@richardalvarado-ik9br]

The high insane cost of affordable housing in this country might force this phenomena anyway.

[@utubefreshie]

@@richardalvarado-ik9br I agree. And nothing wrong with it. I think Americans need to stop looking down on living with parents or adult children. At the same time, in a way, it does force people to learn to adjust to each other and hopefully learn to be more considerate of each other too. There shouldn't be any stigma. It's OK.

[@reneastle8447]

Extended families should remain strong and thriving today.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

What did the '60s kids say when they found out their parents weren't exactly "married with children"? "Oh, mom, you're not my real mom? That's just... far out!"

[@OhLookItsJonBoy]

“Women still significantly more time on child care and housework”. *Fails to mention men are still outside cleaning the gutters, mowing the lawn, repairing things throughout the house inside and out, working one or two jobs, and have maybe one day a week if that to relax.

[@jaz093]

Correct. Part of Western culture today is trying to make it seem women had it so bad and men had it so good which is a lie. Even 100 years ago women had it better. Women and children first, men in the ocean.

[@mrs.ana93]

I wouldn't trade being a woman to be a man back then. Women had it easy and they fkd it all up for the rest of us later generations 🥲

[@yanikkunitsin1466]

"Disadvantages...sometimes you never alone, you can't get a lot of privacy"- dubious virtue, especially for people with different cultural backgrounds and systems of value, i.e. individualistic vs. collectivistic. That's what they teach you to take into consideration, for example, in psychotherapy.

[@emuriddle9364]

Normal families respect each other's space. Saying, "It's just a family matter," is too vague. And it overlooks the underlying issues, that a lot of battered people go through. If it was any other crime, it's always taken seriously.

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

I'm all for nuclear Families but extended families? Hell no

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"After the 1960s, families got a little more... liberated. I mean, who needs marriage and commitment when you can have a groovy vibe and a changing of the sheets? But seriously, the 1960s were all about free love, and it looks like some families got a little too free with their love... or should I say, their love-making? Ba-dum-tss!"

[@heronimousbrapson863]

Prior to the post-war era (eg. the 1930's) many people lived in "traditional" two parent families, but they were often quite poor, especially during the great depression. In fact, it was not uncommon for fathers to abandon their wives and children; they just couldn't divorce.

[@pussaemuncha]

“Many things *conspired* to help the nuclear family” “High wages” “High church community” “High social trust” You say it like it’s a bad thing

[@freeman7079]

I feel that this man’s statements were edited to support the very opposite of what he was espousing.

[@tomthomassony8607]

The traditional family with Conservative values are sponsored by; Prime Minister Boris Johnson (4 marriages and ?? children). President Donald Trump (2 marriages and how many affairs?) King Charles III (cheating on his wife Princess Diana from day one of his marriage)

[@x77punk77x]

Good lord, get a good dictionary. The English language is being killed by dummied-down social technology and American know-it-alls. You do realize that many verbs have multiple definitions / use cases, right? Just because you can’t get past one verb connotation doesn’t mean that the others don’t exist; they just don’t exist in your brain.

[@comedylyfe2113]

I hate churches

[@tarikyasargun4582]

@@freeman7079Thats a really bad thing. As a man He should Express his real and truth opinions

[@Livin4Jesus00]

the system and the established lifestyle is what's causing the problems on the nuclear family. The nuclear family is not the problem. If real change is to be seen, with a better quality of life, then this modern lifestyle and the system that supports it must change.

[@flame-sky7148]

Right on point, it's the economic system.

[@emuriddle9364]

Toxic people ruined the Nuclear Family. They take everything they want. Blame everybody except themselves. And the smart, decent people don't even get a chance. For those who don't believe me, there's a place called "Raised by Narcissists." Same story. One after another.

[@flame-sky7148]

Emu Riddle yep, after they create the problem, they point the finger at the very people that have the problem that the have created.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

In any case, I suppose we can say that the 1960s were a time of great change and upheaval - and that's certainly true for families as well. But hey, at least we can all agree that it's been a wild ride ever since!

[@Kyiverdam]

My dad owned a house that had previously been split into 5 units. In the 1980s and 1990s, the main unit (apartment 1) had him, my mom, and me, while the other units mostly had my mom's sisters and their kids. So, we were somewhat in an extended family.

[@Xuzon]

A link to the article would be nice.

[@Xuzon]

@@TubeWusel i see you didn't get the point. Atlantic is a company, they want to sell you stuff, they've created this video to sell you the article and convince you to buy subscription for their magazine. When they uploaded the video it did not have a link to the article. It's like paying for an ad but not mentioning the product or the company. It's someone's sloppy job I'm commenting not fishing for a link that I've found on my own. The article is very good, and by not including the link, less people will read it, again, sloppy job on uploader's side.

[@lora6637]

@@Xuzon True. Bad digital marketing by Atlantic... but great content anyways!

[@TheDeathOf_SlimShady]

The link is literally in the description. Its just not highlighted in blue

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

This joke plays on the idea that many families were formed outside of marriage in the 1960s, leading to a "tangled mess" of family relationships. The punchline is a clever wordplay on the phrase "Branching Out" and the idea that many families were formed outside of traditional marriage.

[@mrs.ana93]

I'm lucky to be someone who is married with children and also a stay at home mother. I am the *only* woman in my entire extended family that doesn't work. I don't think any of the other women even have a choice. Cost of living is too high. Last year my grandmother got diagnosed with cancer, and I got to care for her for 8 months until she unfortunately passed away. If it wasn't for me being a stay at home mother she would've died alone in a nursing home. Even more so alone due to the pandemic. I make a lot of sacrifices in my life and this was the one that opened my eyes to how America messed up somewhere. Families can't even care for their young or elderly without the help of daycares and nursing homes because they are chained to a 9-5 job until they turn 65. It's extremely disheartening. & I know a lot of women who would love to be stay at home wives and mothers but simply can't because they can't afford it, or because they are single are struggling even more.

[@reneastle8447]

What if we can change all that for good?

[@AnonningAnon]

It's a dystopian future that our ancestors would be appalled, or even horrified, by.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Why did the family of the 1960s have a big argument? Because they were having a "free love" quarrel! They couldn't agree on who was the father, who got to keep the kids, or who got to keep the hippie van!

[@SunBunz]

I wish I had a nuclear family growing up. Friends of mine who did seemed so happy and functional. No fighting, no violence, no infidelity, no substance abuse or alcoholism, they were all so supportive of each other. The were all best friends with each other. How I envied them.

[@x77punk77x]

Unfortunately I knew of plenty of deeply dysfunctional nuclear families with all of the problems (and more) that you listed. Very curious what geography & demographics & era you grew up in; it sounds impossibly tv-sitcom-family perfect(!)

[@SunBunz]

@@x77punk77x true. I just wish I could’ve experienced what others had, where families get together and are always there for each other.

[@SunBunz]

@nuclearmuscle2029 of course, it depends on the situation. It seems the majority of those who do are more functional and healthy than broken homes with divorced parents, alcoholics, drug addicts, abusers, etc. But those can be in the same setting.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

However, I think it's also important to acknowledge that many families during this time period did provide a loving and supportive environment for their children. And who knows? Maybe some of those "bastards" grew up to be great people despite their circumstances!

[@Joeey975]

Boomers destroyed the nuclear family.

[@flame-sky7148]

They sure did.

[@SouthernBelleReviews]

Stop blaming one group of people for everything.

[@xvegancommunistx1848]

No it was capitalism

[@emuriddle9364]

They had privilege, because their elders were smart. When they became the elders, they didn't care. Now we have these problems. Ironically, people had more sympathy during the Depression, than we do now. And that disgusts me.

[@emuriddle9364]

@@xvegancommunistx1848 In my opinion, that's included too. Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" wasn't fiction either.

[@rvoloshchukify]

I grew up living with my grandparents, great grandma, uncle, and eventually his new wife and children. It was much better than just with my parents, and if I have children, I will try to live near my family to provide the same for them

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

Are you from Eastern Europe? You should look at Whaifalthist's video on family structure and ideology. If you are Eastern European then you're describing a typical family structure.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

But in all seriousness, family is about love, acceptance, and a healthy dose of humor. So, let's raise a glass (of wine) to those 'unplanned' families out there who managed to make it work despite the odds...and to those who are still figuring it out!"

[@pantherace1000]

I have never understood why an increase in divorces is considered a bad thing. If two people are unhappy in the relationship, then their ending that relationship because they are unhappy is healthy.

[@Blue-df3zz]

Step 1: Be woman Step 2: Attract rich and promising man Step 3: Marry said man and ensure that he gets you pregnant Step 4: After the conception of the child divorce the man and wring him out for 18 years of child support

[@Fishinpro322]

Divorce is detrimental for children and undermines the very point of marriage. Marriage is not about either of the spouses happiness but about serving one another in self sacrificial love for life. Of course there are situations where toxic or abusive behavior can necessitate a divorce, but in the majority of cases simply divorcing due to a lack of happiness is a completely insufficient reason to break up a family and end a marriage.

[@mrs.ana93]

@@Fishinpro322 Nailed it. A lot of people get divorced nowadays for really crap reasons. Their wedding vows meant nothing to them.

[@ishaqmo7200]

I think its more like there needing to be so many divorces shows a bad trend in how people get into relationships, essentially saying that they are doing it the "wrong" way

[@littleantukins4415]

If they have kids that's bad

[@herpderpy9445]

I love all the snobs pretending it’s some huge moral failing and not realizing that the textbook nuclear family was only possible when one wage could support a household. Complain about “feminism” all you want. Poor women were WORKING TOO!

[@JRobbySh]

At least the poor woman had a husband. Nowadays there are fewer and fewer husbands.

[@jellyfrosh9102]

So if you double the population of workers by allowing women into the workforce, but the number of jobs stays the same, what do you think happens to wages? Feminism destroyed the family and when you destroy the family you bring the whole culture down with it.

[@Citadin]

globalism, outsourcing of American industry destroyed the middle class, forced women to work. Women were sold on the notion that being a housewife is some kind of slavery while slaving away in a cubicle for a corporation is a great substitute for building a family and being surrounded by your husband and children who love you unconditionally. Every film and TV show after the 1980s portrayed the 1950s housewife as an oppressed woman, when in fact it was the height of personal fulfillment for American women. Today the segment of childless middle aged and older women have the highest depression rates.

[@Citadin]

@Neiimo most women who put their careers ahead of forming a family end up regretting later in life. Childless middle aged and older women are among the most unhappy and depressed population segments.

[@newyorkfan16]

That's because the workforce being controlled by both the Rockefeller and Rothschild banking dynasties needed women, since men were already out sacrificing themselves in military service wars. And also to tax working women, since you can't tax the HOUSEWIFE and get to kids in school earlier, so that they can brainwash them in accepting globalism at an early age as possible. I mean do you ever ask yourself, do working women like being TAXED at the same rate as working men, for the same or less demanding work?

[@evelynsaungikar9449]

More people are living alone because they can afford to. In the past, single people, especially women, would be resented burdens on their married siblings, and built in babysitters. Or, they would be obligated to take care of elder parents. In the west, we have monetized what used to be family duties. Also, chosen families is not an outcome of the breakdown of nuclear families. Gay people form chosen families because their blood family has shunned them.

[@emuriddle9364]

Not to be controversial, but there's no sense of duty anymore. Just egoistic pleasure. And the good people who are left don't even know how to find each other. Every day, you always have to lock horns with the people who only see you as property, an annoyance, or a metaphorical blood tax. I wasn't the one out on the streets, looking for them either. And that's rediculous.

[@james0805]

We are meant to live tribally. That’s how humans have always survived. The nuclear family is stupid, harmful, and destructive. We need to live in groups again

[@ivan5595]

Only works for small scale tribes

[@cybertron1000s]

Tribalism doesn't produce good office drones.

[@AlexsaurusRex]

this is disgusting. the reason women were stuck in the kitchen all day is because the men were stuck in the field all day. the reason the woman in the 5o's ws stuck doing housework all day is because the husband was the only one that needed to work in order to sustain a home. the reason families are breaking own is because we've incentivized the absence of fathers through social programs and increasing inflation. The reason the United States was able to buy more with one American dollar back then is because we were not so indebted was a nation, and because we weren't spending on people that don't produce. how is it that the state that pays the most in taxes anywhere in the us, is also the one with the most homelessness? what is producing that. I read this man's article and all it is is a narrative based on a movie of what families used to be. it doesn't matter how he words it, even he acknowledges that families worked and now they don't. they are bringing about ruin and will turn the United States into a third world country

[@ishaqmo7200]

For the issue of homelessness in california, I believe a big thing at play has to do with something other than debt: a housing shortage. Currently not enough (dense) housing is being built, thus home prices are skyrocketing due to the high demand of people

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"What happened to families after the 1960s? Well, it seems that the 'Summer of Love' turned into a 'Summer of Love...and a Few Unplanned Consequences'! Many 'accidental' children were born, and with them, a whole new generation of kids who didn't quite get the 'Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval' from their parents.

[@junkboxxxxxx]

Nuclear family got nuked

[@azazel166]

Turns out it was the nuclear option.

[@dathip]

@@azazel166 HAHAH XD

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

I see what you're getting at! Well, I suppose we can say that the 1960s were a wild time for families. After all, as the saying goes, "many bastards were born" - and not just in the literal sense!

[@Applecorecafe]

Corporate greed powered by mass selective-ignorance destroyed everything.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"The 1960s were a time of great social change and upheaval. But let's not forget the one thing that really changed: our children's understanding of what constitutes a 'family'."

[@comlain2513]

anybody that goes against this is a enemy to mankind and should be treated as such

[@JB-kx9bx]

Big corporations love that alot of the blame is put on feminists and not that they've outsourced and automated living wage jobs into oblivion making the nuclear family structure weak. Big corporations love employees with limited responsibilities outside of work and a serf like dependence on the shrinking paycheck.

[@HH-ni5hm]

Promiscuity and immorality is killing your birthrates just admit it. Divorce is creating bastards that dont have value. The western idea of progress is unsustainable.

[@Citadin]

@@HH-ni5hm That's why corporate America is 100% behind LGBT.

[@marshallwhitlock8591]

Social engeneering works. As a weapon.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"It's amazing how many people came out of the 1960s saying, 'I'm a free spirit!' Meanwhile, their kids are over here thinking, 'I'm a free spirit... with a DSS caseworker and a part-time nanny!'"

[@junkboxxxxxx]

We escorted granddad out behind the barn and we don't talk about him anymore.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Why did the '60s babies grow up with a different sense of values? Because they had to "make their own way" - literally, since most of them were born out of wedlock!

[@mynameisnotimportant2854]

I like how men say feminism destroyed nuclear family. But what gender is the number 1 purchaser of pornography, perpetrator of pedophillia, perpetrator of rape, perpetrator of domestic violence, perpetrator of murder, visitors of strip clubs, and perpetrator of human trafficking?

[@NoName-br8pb]

That's the consequences of nuclear family destruction. And it's pity.

[@Charles-hy6gp]

@@NoName-br8pb "Divide and Conquer" that all about

[@james0805]

You’re right. There’s enough blame for both sides

[@dasse6637]

You can raise a child as a single parent or with a step parent. But it doesn't replace a 2 parent household with both biological parents raising the child. The latter will always be better if it's a healthy relationship.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

But seriously, it's true that the 1960s saw a shift in societal values, and some families may not have had the same level of guidance and support as they did in previous decades. As a result, some kids may have grown up without the benefit of good role models or strong moral guidance.

[@Bithge]

So my mom had me, with some guy, started dating his brother, told everyone the second guy was the father when he wasn’t. He abused both of us until he blew smoke in my face so i stopped seeing him at 5 until he died of a heroin overdose when i was 11. Mom married a man from India and he was extra abusive to me but still abused both of us. Mom died when i was 12, leaving me alone with ugly step father for months until my grandparents took me in and adopted me. I didn’t have a chosen family or an extended family per se (correct me if I’m wrong, I’ll accept it) but i had the choice to live with my grandparents and I’m not entirely sure where i was going with this but i can’t stand when people say nuclear families are “essential” and “necessary for advancement as a species”. That’s a whole load of bull shit, i would not be the kind and compassionate person i am now if i didn’t get saved by my grandparents

[@badgerfishinski6857]

So u had ur grandpa and grandma? Father and mother figure raised you.

[@acidsurfers]

Your grandparents became your nuclear family, how are you not seeing that?

[@Oliver_Klozoff69]

Ur grandparents became ur nuclear family bruh

[@TheOutlierToday]

"How did the nuclear family fail?" It didn't fail. Society failed the family unit.

[@j8246]

Every person reading this who has yet to have kids and get married. Do everything in your power to choose a good husband/wife and do not break uo the family. It's the #1 indicator of how your child will grow up. If you love them, give them a normal happy family. Dont have kids if you don't want to do this

[@LAVirgo67]

I studied this back in the 1990s. How the nuclear family was a fluke. Since then I've fought hard & make decisions that brought me closer to my family. I got married & we had a son. He was raised with his grandparents not too far. His uncles & aunts interacted with him & he has a relationship with them. We built strong bonds with other families & we helped each other with childcare. Now that our kids are adults, friends & family are helping each other as we get older & aging parents. You don't have to come from a big family, but you do have to open your life to other people. There are too many lonely people out there that can't reach out to anyone. It's very sad.

[@willywanker1906]

>Be me >Not American >Life's good

[@vibri_]

tbh i'd hate to have grown up in an extended family, i already had a ridiculous lack of privacy in a "nuclear" one...

[@dekufan-f7i]

Extended family is the best imo, the kids can socialise with each other, grandparents/aunts/uncles can take care of them whilst parents are at work, etc

[@MsDudette21]

@@dekufan-f7i kids shoudl be able to choose their own friends, not settle for family members especailly if they are toxic.

[@dekufan-f7i]

@@MsDudette21 I'm not saying kids shouldn't have friends, I'm just saying that extended families allow them to have more people to learn socialisation from

[@ayejay4028]

@@MsDudette21 u must be real fun at parties

[@MsDudette21]

@@ayejay4028 what a weird thing to say cuz I don't have Stockholm syndrome. If you're gonna use that saying at least use it correctly

[@gregglevin5612]

"It takes a man to raise a man".

[@user-ou4vv2ts2w]

Happens to be the best years of American history

[@jaimeceferino7710]

Stop the blame. Were in a situation at hand where the boat is sinking. Be a solution or be a problem! Its all about choice now! But blaming on any one generation isn’t going to solve anything. Lets all grow up and work together.

[@reneastle8447]

Amen, pal, amen.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

So, what's the moral of the story? Well, I think it's this: even with all the mistakes and mishaps, family is still worth fighting for. And who knows? Maybe those 'accidental' kids turned out just fine...or maybe they just became master manipulators like me!

[@mastert5618]

Divorce is a norm: why bring children into this hell.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

What did the parents of the '60s say when their kids asked about their unconventional family dynamics? "Hey, kiddo, your mom and I are just... redefining the concept of 'nuclear family'!"

[@AmbyAntidevolution]

Doesn’t have to be if we get the communist propaganda out of our media. Human minds are easily programmed and divorce was programmed to be accepted and normal in their minds.

[@berniebanner9960]

What is, neoliberalism.

[@PS-nf3xw]

Not sure mate

[@danarchist74]

You should know @@PS-nf3xw it's prevalence has been the norm for 40+ years.

[@PS-nf3xw]

@@danarchist74 that's precisely what confuses me.

[@danarchist74]

@@PS-nf3xw what are you confused about? Can you explain your confusion.

[@manusangiorgio4445]

@@danarchist74 or even better, explain neoliberalism

[@rudynegrete5658]

We have an archaic idea of what family is; It exists in this one freakish moment of history; [traditional families] is like a cult of togetherness. This commentator is seething with hate on traditional families. His revolutionary spirit come through very clearly.

[@arthurmoore1524]

Man, I'm 23 & I just want the 1950s back :'(

[@mrs.ana93]

Shoot im down to have the late 1700's-1800's extended families back. Imagine siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents, & in-laws all thriving in a giant mansion together. Growing up in a little community with one another.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"The 1960s were all about pushing boundaries and breaking rules. But let's be real, folks, some boundaries were better left unbroken... like the ones surrounding responsible parenting."

[@dlam2864]

The breakdown of the nuclear family is the root of many problems in the world and this country.

[@yeshuasage3724]

This is the downfall of the u.s of a

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"The 1960s were all about free love and exploring one's sexuality, but I guess what they didn't explore was the consequences of not having a steady supply of napkins and diapers."

[@TheNecessaryEvil]

Ruined by people who belong in a carnival side show tent

[@edp3202]

Man this is accurate. The 70's and on was miserable for many families.

[@reneastle8447]

Fortunately, there's always a way to turn the tables around.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"You know what's even more surprising than the number of bastards born in the 1960s? The number of people who still use that term without getting embarrassed!"

[@lilalila4448]

From where I live, nuclear family is still going strong. Family dinner is a norm. Weekends are for family. Not once have I ever complained.

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

Where do you live?

[@lilalila4448]

Whoa, never expected to have a reply but thanks! I live in Vietnam. Although my country is progressing, we are still very conservative about certain things and having meals with family is one of them. Usually parents will get their children from school, go back home to take a shower before going to the kitchen and making the meal. Everyone starts having dinner around 6-8 p.m. depending on their schedules. The kids then do some helping around the house (putting out the trash, mopping the floor,...) while the parents do the cleanup (washing dishes, cleaning tables and stuff,...). After that the children go on with their school life while parents take a nice break in front of the TV. In my case, my sons are ardent lovers of sports and so do I, so sometimes when they finish schoolwork I often practice whatever sports that we play together in the local park with them, be it running, playing soccer or badminton). Weekends are basically the same except we do more activities together! They usually take up weekend mornings and/or afternoons. After that, my kids are free to do whatever they want for the rest of the day.

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

@@lilalila4448 This sounds ideal and so many families in the West (esp the British Diaspora) have lost this. I grew up (in the UK, but not ethnically British) with a lot of the elements you talk about (family meals together, kids having to do chores), but as I said, a lot of this is being lost. Try your best not to. Because once it's gone it doesn't come back.

[@lilalila4448]

@@rejectionisprotection4448 I know! It is so easy to be disconnected in the modern family life. My elder son is about to go to high school now and while he is still a very responsible kid, I am afraid he will get carried away by the high school life. My younger one, on the other hand, is quite childish and he loves to get involved with his girlfriend more than with his family. While our family is fully supportive of his personal affairs, we constantly remind him that no matter what, family should be first!

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

But in all seriousness, family is about love, acceptance, and a healthy dose of humor. So, let's raise a glass (of wine) to those 'unplanned' families out there who managed to make it work despite the odds...and to those who are still figuring it out!"

[@ruzzelladrian907]

The suburbs and single-family homes make it difficult for families to be closer together sometimes. If extended family members were to live close-by or in the same compound, it would be easier for parents to just leave their kids with the cousins or aunts and uncles, which takes out the need for a babysitter and nanny. In the worst case scenario, if one parent were to die, other family members could take in the role as support. I do see families outside of the West like to make dwellings in a compounded area where they all live next to each other on the same lot. When building a home, they consider living very close to family, so siblings who get married off will move into the same neighborhood or maybe live in the same neighborhood where they grew up and their parents are still living in the same house.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

I can't write a joke about birth control.

[@oneofthechannelsofalltime]

It was hit by a negatively charged particle with the velocity close to that of light.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

"What happened to families after the 1960s? Well, it's like someone said, 'Hey, kids, why have a stable home life when you can have a revolving door of fathers and a garage full of broken toys?'"

[@oneofthechannelsofalltime]

@@PoisonelleMisty4311 I think you are thinking of Quantum Families. Nuclear families have fathers and mothers but not fathers and mothers of fathers and mothers.

[@sofiabravo1994]

I thank Jesus Christ for this opportunity to be at home with my family, I didn’t grow up in a nuclear family I made it a lifetime goal to not end up like my parents. My daughters deserve the best!

[@aResoluteProtector]

God bless you and your family sister.

[@Ekam-Sat]

“For decades, we’ve been sawing at the chains we thought were constraining us when, in actuality, we were sawing at the branch we were sitting on. Rather than resulting in the freedom to do as we wish, it has resulted in us having the freedom to fall to ground" - Konstantin Kisin.

[@mjohnson1741]

Marriage is not about morality it's about capitalism. Really think about it, marriage has a 45% failure rate. If anything else had that failure rate people and society would warn you against it. Majority of industries are attached to home ownership. Yes, there are flaws in the extended family but the nuclear family is by far more flawed.

[@kendrabuttersworth3886]

Wow society was great and we killed it because people were selfish

[@emilyqaqish9823]

So thankful I grew up in a nuclear family, married into a nuclear family and now preparing to raise my own little ones and teach them our values.

[@rmsfootball63]

Boomers inherited everything and left nothing.

[@Drsashisekhardubey]

American society is so doomed

[@Wisdomseeker1028]

This video gave no reasons why nuclear family is breaking down

[@gabrielbron5918]

A “chosen” family could work, if you truly do offer unconditional support. You have failed if you’re hopping around from family to family hopelessly looking for infinite comfort. Comfort is never permanent, and this applies to human relationships too.

[@RockinBobXYZ]

What this video (and article) don't explain is how we can restore extended families if nuclear families continue to fall apart. As the article notes, people already feel weaker bonds and responsibilities to step-parents and children than the do to blood family. So won't these now, constructed bonds of 'chosen family' be weaker still?

[@cd0130]

That's the question I'm asking. And what are the acting forces that are degrading the value in pair bond relationships and genetically linked family groups?

[@CameronCourts]

You don't choose your step-family. They are pretty much forced on you. A chosen family is just that; chosen.

[@JRobbySh]

Stands to reason.

[@syrenematin4676]

@@CameronCourts what is it that unifies you for the duration of life through ups and downs argument fights disappointments and disagreements from generation to generation? This is a serious question. Just wondering how chosen families can make it if blood families couldn't

[@CameronCourts]

@@syrenematin4676 Love and the desire to maintain certain relationships. I think it just comes down to the individual. Some people just don't feel a connection to their "blood family", as unfortunate as that is. Of course, the ideal situation is to have both.

[@bryanshoemaker6120]

This video is too politically correct to actually say what happened. 😊

[@elizabethrunciman2092]

Video started okay but didn't explain what caused the breakdown of the Nuclear family. The author of the article jumps to Chosen families as the emerging family unit. It isn't that simple. The dynamics of all family units are complex because people are complex. I think any discussion on family deserves more consideration.

[@thecapatalistpropagator_9470]

This is leftist channel so it won’t touch but feminism was responsible for it You see nuclear family was very much dependent on the sacrifice of the wife who held the family together but that also meant that she’d have to give up her career . To cultivate the strong women idea many women later in 80s felt that it wasn’t there share to sacrifice 2) No fault divorce 3) no social pressure on men to keep their family bonded . Many men started to cheat after the hippie era thus men losing morals also contributed

[@LuxusDesign1993]

Feminism killt the nuclear family 😢

[@trahadbad]

100%

[@Xxrocknrollgod]

Our culture is declining fast . A negative of the nuclear family? The mom had to cook?! Ohh the horrors. give me a fucking break.

[@Alexander-wq7qo]

In all honesty the nuclear family is a bit overrated. Gay couples produce exceptional children just as straight couples do. But I would recommend that the child have a third parent figure that is not the same sex as the parents to get more perspective. Far too many nuclear families are patriarchal and domineering.

[@karlazeen]

I live in a nuclear family and I'm happy... In Costa Rica.

[@karlazeen]

@payz hayz Cause I'd probably be less happy if I didn't have the privilege of having a stable family.

[@azazel166]

A pity that kid in Colorado doesn't, because he wasn't cut and woven to their parents' liking so they kicked him out. He lived in a nuclear family too.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Some women may choose not to use birth control due to personal beliefs, religious beliefs, or moral convictions.

[@seanaaron7888]

These are some of the best minodocs on YT.

[@anawatson8594]

My experience is family just tries to put you in a box with societal expectations of who you have to be. I'm actually a totally different person than they know me as.

[@tedskins]

Yes, but without that structure having a family provides, you will likely end up broken and recluse Obviously there are no guarantees, shitty parents exist, but the odds you'll turn out fine are better if you're raised in a family than without it

[@Pundit07]

@@tedskins Meh, this just screams mental gymnastics. Like, you’re trying to justify abusive and deadbeat parents as important to society regardless of how terrible they are. Role models can exist in the forms of other people who are not related by blood, just saying

[@futureshock7425]

Just look at wealth inequality for that answer

[@jetfire1099]

The Fool Yeah but the Inuits don’t live in an oligarchy now do they.... And yes traditional families were broken up in some instances by children deciding to move far from their parents and differing political opinions. But in some instances for instance if someone comes out as gay and their family does not accept them. The person does not wish to deny who they are sexually, but their parents hate them for it. I mean my personal opinion is that there needs to be a balance between the individual and the community/family, but that these must be in balance. The individual can not be selfish, but the family can also not try to repress the individual’s expression. Currently popular culture over emphasizes the individual and being selfish, which is what has helped destroy community.

[@jetfire1099]

@The Fool No, that's all to the good I'm for individual rights and how to benefits free thought for sure. And I agree that the nuclear family is the smallest form of the genetic family, but the problem is that the shift of emphasis to the nuclear family completely is part of the reason for family disintegration and estrangement. Then people decide to move away from their parents and their extended family, which is all to the good, but often can make the distance between family much greater both literally but also socially. I think in our society the individual has been overemphasized and so things are chaotic.

[@emuriddle9364]

@The Fool Because they cooperated with each other, instead of price-gouging fish. Or beating their wives. The toxic people just got kicked out, into the cold.

[@JRobbySh]

The wealth inequity is owing to the lack of two parent families. Failure to marry and easy divorce are a major causes of this.

[@gustavo042]

No Inequality above all

[@LIVdaBrand]

All by design. Divide and conquer

[@יעקב98]

The modern American economic structure is not family oriented-the ability for women to divorce men, access to abortion, loss of assets due to unpaid debts or taxes and therefore the inability to transfer wealth (or inheritance) to posterity and kin, promotion of women in school and the workforce rather than childbearing and child-rearing, all of these things among many other modern shifts play a factor in why having a family in America is unviable to the coming generation.

[@cantthinkofausername5848]

You're a clown, do you really think the right to divorce when a marriage isn't working or when someone is abusive is a bad thing?

[@Mastermind111111]

Why is this article celebrating the destruction of the family? These criminals should be jailed and the key thrown away for the betterment of society

[@JB-kx9bx]

There seems to be a clear correlation between successful marriages and families and income. Upper middle class divorce rates are as low as they were overall in the 50s. Its only collapsed for the lower class.

[@EGH181]

By design. Thank Reaganomics

[@oliveraparicio8464]

@Muslimcel Upper middle class is $100,000➡$300,000 household income. Every ethnic group has people in that economic bracket.

[@oliveraparicio8464]

@Muslimcel They are both small population and are successful in certain fields. White aka European extraction is a broad term hinds a broader people. Black aka African Extraction are a broader people. We are comparing a specific group to a broader group. I'm sure if we broke down the Americans of European extraction into certain groups (Germanic, Slavic, Celtic, Latin). We'll get a better reading which general ethnic group are the true economic powerhouse in multiple industries.

[@oliveraparicio8464]

@Muslimcel The stats proved my point specific group with small population vs broad group with larger population.

[@oliveraparicio8464]

@Muslimcel Mexicans/Central Americans are one of the most successful ethnic groups because they managed to monopolize the North American underworld via Drug Cartels and Street/Prison gangs. Power, Success, and Influence can be measured in many ways not just by household income.

[@Jacob-TX]

There's still this pressure from society and women, that unless a man has moved out of his guardian's house, he's not worthy. A lesser man. This is insane. The largest of anyone's expense is rent. If your parents, grandparents, etc have room and are cool with it, why wouldn't you stay and save $1,000 USD/mo+ in rent? How much money do men waste on women only to fail in getting one anyway because, "it doesn't feel right"?

[@steverogers7601]

You don’t NEED to be married, it’s not a necessity in the modern world but you absolutely should have both parents present. It’s changed because some families have parents with homosexual parents and should be present in the child’s life, but for heterosexual parents, both mother and father should be in the child’s life.

[@scottgould6590]

The nuclear family has not necessarily disappeared. Its accepted definition simply has changed as societys goals and values have changed.

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

What is a new definition?

[@DEichenberg]

Wanna fix it? Make it so women do not have a financial incentive to get divorced. It literally PAYS to end a marriage and destroy a family.

[@sindelscat9336]

Why just women?

[@sta5011]

My advice please don't let your future sons grow with no father or mother,trust me I had a friend who became a bad influence

[@BlackeSmith77]

I hate this fucking world

[@superherobandaa3496]

We need Male and Female in family to make a good life...

[@vrolleri]

the apparent allusion that "men working and women cooking" was somehow "bad" is utter horseshit.

[@natasharules770]

Its not bad, but I'm starting to notice people use documentaries such as above to justify their overt sexism.

[@vrolleri]

@@natasharules770 example? do you even know what "sexism" means? before she went batshit crazy w/ Bernie-Marxism, Pocahontas wrote a book called, "the two income trap". you should read it; it was actually interesting.

[@EGH181]

Well put

[@taohuang359]

I personally feel that extended families offer the best solution. They offer the most security, the most flexibility and expose children to the widest possible social education - which is why they were the norm for the bulk of human existence (and still are the norm for all non-human primate species). While largely intact in my grandparents’ and even to some extent, in my parent’s time, beginning in my own generation and accelerating rapidly thereafter, we have witnessed the fragmentation and annihilation of the family structure, beginning with its reduction to the nuclear family and subsequently its dwindling down to single parent households. Simultaneously, we have witnessed skyrocketing populations of homeless people (who are someone’s unwanted relative), and the explosive construction of daycare and hospice facilities to care for our (unwanted) children and (unwanted) dysfunctional and dying parents. As if this were not bad enough, we now have same sex parents, which presume (incorrectly) that a woman can substitute for a father and a man for a mother in the upbringing of a heterosexual child - despite abundant evidence to the contrary indicating that the means by which males and females relate to and instruct their children differs substantially between the two sexes. It is little wonder therefore that our children are struggling academically and socially and experience an ever widening range of cognitive and developmental maladies. The policies that are in place that encourage this fragmentation must be stopped and reversed immediately if we are to have any hope of raising our children to become the intelligent, psychologically stable and socially astute adults that will be required to lead our nation forward into the future.

[@hectorcontreras9721]

I couldn't agree more

[@phoenixblanco3892]

I know this is an old comment but this is really well written and explains a complicated problem very well.

[@ultragarrison]

The nuclear family have also started to deteriorate in Asian countries, all in the name of progress and liberalism.

[@typical_orange_cat]

I live far away from my family because I'm studying. And when I'm completely alone I feel like I'm going insane. Thanks god they visit me almost every Saturday

[@bozolito108]

You mean Leave It To Beaver wasn’t real?!? Gee whiz shucks!

[@aspivey73]

Leave it to Beaver is an exaggeration of the way life was (I doubt most housewives wore pearl necklaces or hair always looked perfect) but it was a realistic look at the way people were in the 1950's. A father who made good money and a wife who could stay at home with the kids.

[@markflierl1624]

@@aspivey73 It was supposed to be a role model for children. Now look at the role models the TV is giving us.

[@sereannaav30]

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[@ThePeterDislikeShow]

I think it's also contributing to increases in car accidents. I was recently leaving a Christmas party when it dawned on me how much safer parents drive. Singles, and people who mess around, heck with it, they steal parking spots, get in road rage, speed, etc.

[@FabianMueller]

Is this the voice of the serial podcast?

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

Why did the '60s kids have trouble with morals? Because they were raised by a generation that thought "free love" meant more than just a free hug!

[@KnightmareUSA]

The post modern family of 2022. Dad identifies as female but only on a wild friday night out, Mum identifies as a furry and the kids are legally owned by Google

[@lastswordfighter]

Liberalism is degeneracy no exceptions. Post Modernism is degeneracy no exceptions. Atheism is degeneracy no exceptions.

[@nma52b]

While I personally benefitted from the nuclear family my parents provided, I understand this worked because my parents are genuinely good people. The older I become, the more I've recognized some of my friends who also came from nuclear families aren't as close with their parents or siblings. Those friends have even cut ties or bad mouthed their relatives. A couple are truly traumatized by their upbringing. When they told me stories of their childhood experiences, it's understandable why they wouldn't want to keep in touch. The sad but shared element in those stories is that the failed parents believe they're amazing parents but are truly terrible people. The nuclear family is simply a tool and it's only as good as the parents utlizing it. Certain people might actually thrive under different family dynamics. It completely depends on the individuals in the family unit. Same with divorce. One friend suffered after his parents split because he lost something. Another friend thrived after her parents divorced because she no longer had to witness their arguments. Some people are meant for nuclear family while others aren't.

[@syrenematin4676]

Why are some people good and others not? What can be done to fix that? If bad people ruin nuclear families why do they not ruin other family types?

[@cia1985]

@@syrenematin4676 You can't really "fix" bad people. It's something that person has to for themselves.

[@xosnipereagle]

@@syrenematin4676 usually because members of the extended family use due diligence in giving the power to the "patriarch" who is the one who has the last word...

[@dathip]

@@cia1985 why were they bad to begin with?

[@williemherbert1456]

@@syrenematin4676 Since an extended family at least give you a social safety and mental stability cushion if there's a huge issue going on in your own primary family, thus the elders and siblings in that family could help you overcome all these issues easily compared to isolated nuclear-family that being designed to easily move peoples from one place to another to support the corporates need of easier to employ human resources, easier because you have not much leverage left in your own hand when you take the model of nuclear-family in doing everything, you have a weak social node to relied upon in your early establishment of your own family and profession, at the end of the day this model creates a high degree of individualism and social isolation compared to the past. Also, it's about easier control since you have become separated cell from the core of the bigger/extended family, thus you are becoming easier prey to be infiltrated in your mind and behaviour to be indulged and ruled according to the needs of the corporates in attempt to maximize their profit in sells of products that actually aren't necessary much if you have an extended family, and then your own family's capital thinning distribution which means that your child eventually won't have much capital advantage compared to you and it will keep going on and on since becoming more separated further away. We're always a social being, of course, there are also lots of disadvantages of the extended family model as well, but this is the model that we as humans had been using for millennia, all this time seems to be working well, and the nuclear family is a byproduct of immense emigration caused by industrialization that causes people to lose their identity and connection, as well leverage in living, it's like having a workspace that imprisoned you away from ever contacting your workmate as means to unionize, the more we are becoming individual entities, means the bigger the leverages owned by another side in dealing with us. Regarding the housing issue, with the decreasing ability for people to own house than in the past, for me one of the great solution is instead forcing your child to get off from your house, better for them to inherit it and keep living on it, and with the advent of internet and Covid-19 had shown us that we could work at our own place for any employer we agreed to work upon, thus diminishing necessity to own house in far-flung places in accordance to the necessitated condition you have to succumb with in order to have that job.