How Far Can the 2024 Chevy Silverado EV REALLY Go on a Charge? So Much Farther Than You Think!

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8 ай бұрын

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@grumpyengg5978
@grumpyengg5978 8 ай бұрын
Thanks TFL, but as some others have mentioned, this full range forecast may not be accurate based on the displayed 24% of battery capacity. This assumes GM got it really good and linear through the entire battery capacity. Like assuming in a gas powered car that the fuel needle is linear the whole way through from “F” to “E”. Maybe voltage is more linear but I just don’t trust it till I see it ;)
@greenne
@greenne 8 ай бұрын
Yeah..based on 2.1mi per kwh, with a 212 battery you get around 445mi range. Something doesn't seem right here.
@boostav
@boostav 8 ай бұрын
@@greenne Yep, either the battery is bigger than the one in the Hummer or the GOM isn't linear.
@tffkap
@tffkap 8 ай бұрын
From a Tesla owner, it's refreshing to see a company more realistically estimating driving range
@javiercastro4561
@javiercastro4561 8 ай бұрын
I must be doing something wrong. I keep hearing this about teslas but i usually beat my estimate by 10 or more %. All I do is not have the ac on and drive behind a big rig lol
@patrickshelley09
@patrickshelley09 8 ай бұрын
Tesla's EPA range isn't based on 100 percent highway driving. It's a mix of mostly highway, with some city and back roads. Which is what my daily drive usually is. If I do the speed limit, I frequently match or exceed the EPA rated range. Even with 100 percent highway driving, you only need to slow down a bit or draft a truck and you'll beat the EPA range. In the city or on back roads you'll easily do more than the EPA range.
@twoweeledsoto6072
@twoweeledsoto6072 6 ай бұрын
I'm a Tesla owner too. I've heard that and expect lower than the estimates if you're speeding, just like gas auto's. I can only estimate because I don't go from 100% to 0%. You being a Tesla owner understand that. But my estimates are close enough I think. I have a long range and have gone 300 miles and still had some left. Estimates I "thought" were 330. Hard to tell for me. But this Silverado appears to have done very well. I'm considering this Silverado or the Cybertruck. I don't know nearly enough about either of these trucks yet.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets 6 ай бұрын
@@patrickshelley09 But that's the thing. My Kia Niro is rated for 259, but can get 293 on the highway at 73mph.
@tanerkanbir4534
@tanerkanbir4534 6 ай бұрын
Yes , thank you! and I dont understand how Tesla real life range did not make a lot of news since it is way less than they claim. I have model x longe range plus and i barely get 250 miles full charge. The Mentatory regen baraking is so stupid ! . I did have Bolt evu claiming 249 but was able to make 295 miles with that full 68Kw battery vs 100kw battery of x.
@kokocostanza2036
@kokocostanza2036 8 ай бұрын
So far, this truck seems to be the opposite of the Lightning. Instead of skimping on the battery like Ford did, the Silverado has useful range even while towing, as they got over 230 miles even with a 6k+ pound trailer.
@georgejulien3286
@georgejulien3286 8 ай бұрын
This isn’t a truck though is it? It’s a chopped SUV, if you can’t put truck accessories on it (like a sled deck or camper) that work for every other 1/2 ton truck like a including the lightning then it’s just not a truck.
@JsGarage
@JsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Still not what you want to tow with outside of local area. Going to spend a lot of time at a charger every 200 miles or so and still have the annoyance with charging park spots and issues they have with trailers.
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 8 ай бұрын
Can’t compare the towing results of a tall travel trailer to a short enclosed ATV bed
@kokocostanza2036
@kokocostanza2036 8 ай бұрын
@@JsGarage And I would just about bet that 80-90% of truck owners don't pull trailers, especially campers, and 75% of those that do don't go further than 200 miles away.
@kokocostanza2036
@kokocostanza2036 8 ай бұрын
@@Cloud30000 Hoovie pulled a flatbed with a Model A on it, and the range fell off a cliff as well.
@randygreen7871
@randygreen7871 2 ай бұрын
$109 to charge an EV, that's absolutely insane! Great vid, thanks for sharing.
@roodick85
@roodick85 2 ай бұрын
Public charging*
@dennisengland9787
@dennisengland9787 8 ай бұрын
I'm a field engineer for electric car charging stations and I put over 500 miles on my company Ioniq 5 just yesterday (more than 15,000 miles in 2.5 months) . And while the ioniq is not bad range wise, having a vehicle like this would be much more preferable for my work.
@vxnova1
@vxnova1 8 ай бұрын
What’s the real world range 80% to 10% of battery on the ionic,
@allentoyokawa9068
@allentoyokawa9068 8 ай бұрын
yeah considering you are driving a JUNK hyunDIE
@Carfan678
@Carfan678 8 ай бұрын
@@allentoyokawa9068 sadly not to long ago I use to consider them as choice but lately all the recalls make me say yeah no literally anybody else is better. Hyundais and Kias easy to steal and now theirs a fire problem
@SyrusLang
@SyrusLang 8 ай бұрын
what type of degree/training does this require?
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
​@@vxnova1real world range would be running the battery all the way down to 3% so you get that big peak charge to minimize the time spent at DC fast chargers.
@Martinm210
@Martinm210 8 ай бұрын
Refreshing after my Tesla EPA to actual highway dissappointment. I still love the car and gold standard charging experience but I appreciate GMs honesty in delivering more than advertised on the Lyrik and now this truck as well.
@TassieEV
@TassieEV 8 ай бұрын
Love to see 100-0% test real world including wind, rain, mountain passes, hills, etc to see what actual real world is.
@Dive-Bar-Casanova
@Dive-Bar-Casanova 8 ай бұрын
Why not a full charge and head to a destination 450 miles away?
@jghall00
@jghall00 8 ай бұрын
Because then he has to drive back.
@carsonassociates3263
@carsonassociates3263 8 ай бұрын
Because then we’d know the ugly truth, that it takes 2hr to recharge that corpulent battery on a 150kW (assuming a typical charging curve, yet tbd).
@jghall00
@jghall00 8 ай бұрын
@@carsonassociates3263 Most EVs are recharged overnight. On a 150 kW, it would probably be 45 minutes to 80% if the pack is near empty. But some of the chargers don't work properly unfortunately. When they switch to Tesla's network, road trips will be much easier.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 ай бұрын
Hand one to Björn Nyland for a 1000 km challenge 🙂
@vxnova1
@vxnova1 8 ай бұрын
Would be great to see the charge curve, from 0 to 100% battery
@jlamm2223443
@jlamm2223443 8 ай бұрын
web site state of charge might have what you want.
@cousinjohncarstuff4568
@cousinjohncarstuff4568 8 ай бұрын
Plus the cost of taking from close to empty up to full.
@vxnova1
@vxnova1 8 ай бұрын
@@cousinjohncarstuff4568 200kw should be about $60 - $70. But that would vary depending where you are at, it’s about $0.32 per kw here in Wisconsin, well at Tesla superchargers anyway,
@vxnova1
@vxnova1 8 ай бұрын
Apparently they take 350kw speed so in theory less than an hour to charge, But depends on charging curve, Which would be interesting to see,
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
​@@cousinjohncarstuff4568 Kyle at out of spec reviews did this very thing with the Hummer EV. I nelieve it took over 3 and 1/2 hours to charge and the bill was over $100 at a similar charger that was used in this video.
@Reddyeforty
@Reddyeforty 8 ай бұрын
I wish i could afford one. Also wish the WT werent fleet only. And no $40K version is absolutely false advertising.
@TKX18
@TKX18 8 ай бұрын
I was so excited with the 40k model, I would definitely buy one ... too bad it was fake news
@cousinjohncarstuff4568
@cousinjohncarstuff4568 8 ай бұрын
Was hoping you would do a loop 150 miles and 150 miles back to see just how much remained of charge for 300 miles.
@ChicagoBob123
@ChicagoBob123 8 ай бұрын
California to Florida. That should set a new record
@TFLEV
@TFLEV 8 ай бұрын
Yep. This would do great on D2D cross country journey.
@henrycolie1220
@henrycolie1220 8 ай бұрын
With a 10k toy hauler…
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
​@@TFLEV just head out to Kansas City on i-70. That's around 630 mi. Would be interesting to see that trip with the chargers along i-70 throughout Kansas. But you know there will be wind, it is Kansas baby!
@roodick85
@roodick85 2 ай бұрын
Already done with out of spec
@newscoulomb3705
@newscoulomb3705 8 ай бұрын
12:27 Out in Colorado, you're getting a lot more of the new ChargePoint Express Plus and EVgo 350 kW charging sites, which would be better for your charging tests. Even with Electrify America's 350 kW chargers, many are now split-power, so you might not be seeing the full 500 A that you'd need to max out the Silverado EV's charging speed.
@kelviskelvis7140
@kelviskelvis7140 8 ай бұрын
Thank you TFL and Andre. The Silverado EV team hit this out of the park. I plan to keep my reservation. The truck is checking all the boxes it advertised over these past 1 1/2 years. The 3WT or the 4WT does have appeal for my needs. The tax credit offsets the purchase price about $10k in my state which will help add to the appeal to these two models.
@Gnosticware
@Gnosticware 8 ай бұрын
It's checking more boxes - they under promised and over delivered, the range is longer than even the optimists (me) predicted
@herbwheeler4470
@herbwheeler4470 8 ай бұрын
What are the real numbers for the tax incentives? Do the tax incentives really turn into money in your pocket? I honestly would like to know from someone that has been through the tax claim and see how it works and see if ends up saving EV customers the claimed amount of tax savings. The way the tax regulations are it makes it tough to achieve the full $7,500.00 federal incentive and state incentives are even tougher.
@markgosser9578
@markgosser9578 8 ай бұрын
@@herbwheeler4470We just bought a Mach E GT and because it was built in Mexico we only received $3750. From federal. You do not get cash in hand from your taxes…it’s a tax rebate you get only if you owe taxes. We did get from State of Delaware a rebate of $2,700. Cash off the vehicle. Can’t remember for sure but it was around $2700. 14 years ago from Solar and Geothermal heating I installed in my new house I did receive a $22,000. Tax rebate check. That was nice!
@rodneycrable7502
@rodneycrable7502 8 ай бұрын
You only receive the max tax credit of $7500 if the sticker price is $80,000 or less for this particular truck. Then it’s a tax credit not a refund so most won’t see a savings at all with the credits.
@johnb7430
@johnb7430 8 ай бұрын
Is the battery imported? Doesn't that cut the benefit in half?
@bplaizier1
@bplaizier1 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the range test, I see so many people hating on it and don't know why. It's pretty much impossible to do a real range test that is going to be, accurate for everyone's specific driving situations. There's so many variables just like with an ice engine; speed, elevation gains, acceleration and so many other variables contribute to the range on any vehicle. We've probably all seen range reviews on the same ice vehicle that get drastically different results. Take this review for what it's worth it, gives a pretty decent estimate what the real world range could be in this vehicle. Based on the numbers he showed of 128 mi in 2 hours and 20 minutes that's about a 58 mph speed average. If you go faster than that you'll probably get worse range if you go slower you might get better range. This range test review gives me a realistic idea of what range someone could get. With this vehicle I wouldn't have range anxiety but definitely still have charger anxiety, how long does it take to charge with that big pig battery and where can you charge it on road trips.
@TroySavary
@TroySavary 6 ай бұрын
Tesla stans are hating on it because it shows that GM has better range.
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 ай бұрын
People hate because its being forced. EVs are cool, but ultimately not superior outright. Cost him 20 minutes and 24$ to charge from 60% to 80%. At this rate, the cost of charging a big EV will be more per mile than a small gas car. And producing massive batteries like this definitely isn't saving the environment. So its interesting, but mostly a grief that's being forced. Don't forget, the entire system in the US requires endless growth or everything collapses
@andriy_stashenko
@andriy_stashenko 27 күн бұрын
Thank’s. You’re good.
@richystar2001
@richystar2001 8 ай бұрын
Do the same test when it's -20C ....That's the test I need to see. I have a trailer and a snowplow.
@jordan-otss
@jordan-otss 7 ай бұрын
Seriously! Enough sexy desert driving. I want real cold weather performance tests!
@smarticus6384
@smarticus6384 8 ай бұрын
Be careful trusting the range and battery percentage that is being displayed. Instead, use the consumption/capacity metric, I.e., miles per kWh by battery size. There are no good reasons a manufacturer would hide the battery capacity from its customers other than to avoid scrutiny of advertised claims. But we know that the SilveradoEV is based on the same battery platform as the HummerEV, so assuming the battery is the same size as the HummerEV, then the actual range based on your 2 miles per kWh might be closer to 424 miles (212kWh used out of 246kWh). But it could also be increased should GM decide to use more of the bottom and top buffer from the 246kWh pack. I would not buy one of these until GM comes clean with some of this information.
@NIAtoolkit
@NIAtoolkit 8 ай бұрын
Consumption metrics include regen, I overlooked this too and couldn’t figure out why the numbers were all over the place
@smarticus6384
@smarticus6384 8 ай бұрын
@@NIAtoolkit Regen contributes, but it's not enough to make a significant difference on a level regular highway driving circuit. Down a mountain? Yes, significant. No matter how you look at it, the 2 mile/kWh is not great, and to get a 500 mi range, he would have needed to average around 2.4 (assuming GM is using the HummerEV pack). The problem is that this truck was supposed to be more efficient; that is what GM promised us, so only getting 2 miles per kWh doesn't make it any more efficient than any other EV pickup on the market, maybe less so. I think perhaps the guess-meter software might be a bit ambitious on these early press vehicles. Legacy manufacturers are known for doing this with their MPG calculations.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
The battery percent is fine using the range number is a no-no. The battery percentage is literally a fuel gauge.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
Because the battery warranty is based on GM's calculation of degradation they will not present the raw data from the battery the same way that Ford does not present the gross capacities of the lightning nor does Tesla.
@carsonassociates3263
@carsonassociates3263 8 ай бұрын
Andre used 24% of battery (per the truck), which was 59kWh (again, per the truck). That would equate to a 246kWh pack size!
@JohnCap523
@JohnCap523 8 ай бұрын
Fuzzy math. It’s a simple calc, efficiency (2.1mpk) x battery pack (assumed 212kW) = 445 miles of range.
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 8 ай бұрын
​@JohnCap523 however, that 2.1 isn't very precise; it could be anywhere from 2.05 to 2.149, which is almost 5% variance. That 2.1 is, well, fuzzy
@JohnCap523
@JohnCap523 8 ай бұрын
@@jonvb2439 Regen counts. That’s how real world works.
@JohnCap523
@JohnCap523 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 It’s not rocket science. This idea that range is some fixed number…. It doesn’t even matter. All that matters in context, is efficiency. And yea, I would like to see it shown to one more decimal place.
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
The dash showed this truck used 55kWh, not sure if that helps with the math here?
@lunatik9696
@lunatik9696 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate this effort to bring real world use to the table. As the voltage drops, the current increases. 25% x 4 is not an accurate method to determine range. This method artificially increases the range estimate. It uses the optimum portion of the battery. One needs to fully charge and then fully discharge to get a true range estimate. I don't know if this was intentionally misleading or simply due to lack of knowledge.
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 8 ай бұрын
I will stick with my 3.0 Duramax Diesel!
@SyrusLang
@SyrusLang 8 ай бұрын
beast of a truck! I own ram rebel and looking to upgrade but I think I'll wait for full ev once solid state batteries go into mass production. Hybrid will likely be my next purchase
@christianglaude6659
@christianglaude6659 8 ай бұрын
Hi Great video as always Just not a big fan of the speed display thingy tablet like thing.
@victorlucente2587
@victorlucente2587 8 ай бұрын
The display showed it used 55.8 kwh of electricity for 128 miles... so those battery is 220kwh at 2.32 miles per kwh... thats the mpg number
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 ай бұрын
At the price he paid, its actually more expensive to drive this than my v8 Ford Explorer. This trip cost him 24$, would have cost me 5$ less for the same distance.
@vincenzoambrogio9412
@vincenzoambrogio9412 8 ай бұрын
I hope most chargers aren't this expensive.
@lildeena1
@lildeena1 2 ай бұрын
I don’t know much but the amount of noise and energy you can hear in the video from these electrical stations is crazy.
@greenne
@greenne 8 ай бұрын
128mi/2:21== approx 55mph. 2.1 at 55 is not good at all. Coming from a Lightning owner, thats no better maybe slightly worse than what I get.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
It's all the damn weight. It's like 2,000 lbs heavier than the lightning
@BigPxxchx
@BigPxxchx 5 ай бұрын
To each its own, some people don’t charge past 80% and some mornings you might not have 80% or more when you leave to do your daily tasks, so this helps either way 🤷🏾‍♂️
@markgutekunstdc2516
@markgutekunstdc2516 8 ай бұрын
Great video and information. Still the problem is cost of recharge. About $100 based on what was shown in video and time to recharge. I can still fill a full sized truck with dino juice in 5 minutes or so vs. a several hours for the EV truck. Towing destroys an practicality of EV. That has been proven. EV developers still have not addressed the elephants in the room: Cost, recharge time, etc. Oh, lets not forget the terrible infrastructure or the tanking performeance when conditions aren't optimal, IE: cold winters or hot summers.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
You mean the same conditions that affect a gasoline vehicle the same way. 😉
@mahdielectrified
@mahdielectrified 8 ай бұрын
According to your stats the battery usable pack is 225kw and gross 230kw
@Skiridr22
@Skiridr22 8 ай бұрын
But isn’t that range only available for the commercial version if I’m not mistaken
@NIAtoolkit
@NIAtoolkit 8 ай бұрын
For those trying to figure out battery capacity and the math is not mathing, brake regen will take away from consumption because energy is being added back into the battery pack I only wish for vehicle manufacturers to display both energy consumed and energy generated separately, instead of bundled into one number like they all do
@foellerd
@foellerd 8 ай бұрын
Wow I never even thought of that. Great point, now I’m super curious how much regeneration actually charges the battery.
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 ай бұрын
Important factor here, the claimed charge times will only be accurate if you get maximum voltage. As you see in the beginning, it took 20 minutes and 24$ to charge from 60% to 80%. That's the realistic future of EVs. They'll just scale charging prices to be close to gas prices. All the claimed savings over gas will go out the window, and we'll all have to spend hours a week charging.
@kencotton4645
@kencotton4645 8 ай бұрын
With 12K max towing, is there anyway to install a gooseneck or 5th wheel hitch? I would feel more comfortable with that heavy of a load if I could move the hitch to the center of the bed.
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
Dad, I would actually like to know myself if this truck is capable of fifth wheel towing.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
​@@trullmannThe Silverado EV is not capable of towing a fifth wheel bumper pull only. That's why it has zeros on gooseneck on the label
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
The Silverado EV is not capable of towing goose necks
@kencotton4645
@kencotton4645 8 ай бұрын
@@duramaxadventures5832 I know, so far no EV pickups have been released that are capable of hauling fifth wheel or gooseneck trailers. Though it seems each manufacturer tries to outdo the last with the towing capacity of their latest model. At some point, it will be simply ridiculous to try to haul the weights they are touting with a bumper pull hitch. But no one seems to want to take the next step in trailer hitches. Maybe the new RAM will do so when it is released.
@Paul-cj1wb
@Paul-cj1wb 2 ай бұрын
The fact that you can go 450 to 500 miles on one charge of full speed highway driving on big heavy trucks truly frightens a lot of people out there. And that it charges at over 300kw for so long and is still over 200kw over 70% SoC really blows their minds. Of those that have one, that is. A lot of the comments below speak for themselves regarding said fear, or the latter of the above statement.
@wally6615
@wally6615 8 ай бұрын
Was there a lot of interior road noise? You can hear bumping or something. Please do the DB testing when you Ike this truck. I wonder if they stripped out the noise insulation to save a few $$$.
@JuanMii24
@JuanMii24 8 ай бұрын
You used 55kwh if you multiple x4 you jave 220kwh. Is that accurate? Wasnt supposed to be 212kwh?
@officialyasir
@officialyasir 8 ай бұрын
This isn't a real range test. You gotta charge to 100% and drive in a loop until its empty. I guess i got spoiled by Out of Spec and Tom's range tests.
@lja3657
@lja3657 8 ай бұрын
Why do damage for a range test. A true ev range test is the useable range which should be 80 to 20 percent. To make batteries environmentally sound you need long life. So 80 to 20 it is.
@pristianG
@pristianG 8 ай бұрын
I disagree. As a 4+year ev owner myself I run 90% until empty (unless I know I need to charge to reach my destination). Fill up a tank of gas with only 80% and tell someone that that is the range of your gas vehicle. Maybe Andre was on a tight schedule and didn't want to wait for that last 20% charge.
@reeljamescooper
@reeljamescooper 8 ай бұрын
I'd like to also add that the air density around Denver is much less so the wind resistance is much less. Also the climate control in Denver around this time doesn't work very hard either.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 8 ай бұрын
As an out of spec fan my self, Kyle even says that their test while they do their best to account for consistent variables, it does not account for all variables and doesn’t mean no other test is accurate but his. He actually has stated this quite a few times. 😊
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
​@@LafemmebearMusic I'm a big fan of Kyle at Out of Spec Reviews, he does some pretty cool stuff with range testing.
@driftlessheights6177
@driftlessheights6177 8 ай бұрын
Hey, my favorite automotive podcast friends, I keep hearing partial information about the truck bed. You have stated the length many times (5' 11"), but never the width nor the vertical dimension of the bed. Plus, I can't find anywhere the position of the wheel wells. They look really long and flat. Are those dimensions under a non-disclosure agreement for you? I have reserved one of these trucks and am thinking of making my own ultralight topper out of carbon fiber. I am roughing out the design. I also don't understand how that rear cab spoiler will interact with the topper. Can my topper be open to the cab somehow? (Think stealth camping.) Please give these measurements if possible. I promise that if I come up with something really cool I will drive through Colorado to show you. I look forward to your shows every week, Lord Harvey (Driftless Heights channel)
@frankkeel8410
@frankkeel8410 8 ай бұрын
How long do the tires last, with that truck weight
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
About as long as the do on a Duramax
@zwolfe12
@zwolfe12 5 ай бұрын
My rough calculations put that charging station cost at about .27 per mile. ($24 for about 90ish miles) I base that on the fact that he increased the battery charge 20% and with a 450mile range battery. That's equivalent to an old gasoline pickup truck getting about 10 mpg with today's gas prices. In Kansas City, gas costs about $2.70 per gallon for 87 octane. Ummm, doesn't make much financial sense to me. I'm not even going to consider at home charging because of the high cost of installing 3 phase electric into the garage that will not charge as fast as one of those fast chargers.
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. Electric is a scam. There is no savings, just time wasting. He would have saved 5$ and 20 minutes if he drove my 08 Explorer
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention saving about 95,000$ on the purchase price lol!
@Mister-Wabbit
@Mister-Wabbit 8 ай бұрын
those are good numbers plus if the person dosent travel outer state and is around town thats still good i could drive from orlando to tampa in one charge
@Kevin-cf8uu
@Kevin-cf8uu 8 ай бұрын
If someone is going to tow heavy loads it'll need a big battery / long range. Of course the benefit is that when you aren't towing you get a very nice range. When towing the range will probably drop to 300 miles. I'm sure Chevy is going to offer models with lower range (thus cheaper) to people who don't tow.
@juliuscheng5788
@juliuscheng5788 8 ай бұрын
The 3WT has a smaller battery, but the tradeoff is a bigger payload/higher tow rating because of the lower curb weight. For those who tow bigger loads and either have access to fast charging on their route or plan on charging at home every night, the 3WT might be a better buy.
@jghall00
@jghall00 8 ай бұрын
The range will be cut in half, depending on what is being towed. Same as ICE.
@JohnCap523
@JohnCap523 8 ай бұрын
Just like in an ICE truck, lest you think empty and loaded gets the same mileage in a gas truck too…
@jghall00
@jghall00 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnCap523 Range is mostly about the aero. I lose half my range towing my camper, regardless of what's actually in my tow vehicle. The weight is minimal compared to drag, which is why the same vehicle can get 400 miles without towing despite weighing 8,000 lbs.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
​@@juliuscheng5788It's not that much cheaper though it's only about six grand so less than 10%....
@lja3657
@lja3657 8 ай бұрын
You know how gas pumps get inspection stickers , to avoid stations ripping off people…… What’s in place as law to keep the electric chargers on the up and up!
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 4 ай бұрын
Nothing. He actually paid more to drive 120 miles in this than I would to drive the same distance in my 08 Explorer 😂 24$ to go 120 miles, at 3$ per gallon, would cost me 5$ less in my Explorer. Its literally a grift
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 8 ай бұрын
Is that the same pack they use in the Hummer EV?
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@newscoulomb3705
@newscoulomb3705 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Andre! Given your experience with the Lightning, how would you compare their driving dynamics, noise, ride, etc. on the highway driving freeway speeds?
@ejimenez365
@ejimenez365 6 ай бұрын
Im hauling a travel trailer from San Francisco, Ca, it is close to 9,000lbs and first stop i went 250 miles from 90% down to 17% on the battery, charging rate at the 350kW station is only getting 174kW average rate.
@kelviskelvis7140
@kelviskelvis7140 4 ай бұрын
R U saying that you have a 2024 Silverado EV WT?
@steinwaymodelb
@steinwaymodelb 8 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to the Suburban/Yukon version of this platform.
@4literv6
@4literv6 8 ай бұрын
If the escalade iq comes out next year as planned. Maybe the suburban version comes out in early 2025 or so?
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
​@@Brian_Eugene_Lee that is interesting that other countries use a lot of diesel vehicles but not so much here in the United States. That would be badass to have a Cadillac Escalade with the diesel engine in it.
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 8 ай бұрын
@@trullmannI believe the LM2 is still available; however, GM killed passenger car diesels in the late 70’s / early 80’s courtesy of a rush job on the 5.7L.
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
@@bobbbobb4663 Tell me about the LM2? My dad back in the mid-80s on our farm had a diesel 3/4 ton suburban. I remember him mentioning that suburban would get 30 MPG consistently.
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 8 ай бұрын
@@trullmann The Duramax diesel (LM2) is still available on new Escalades. Expect to pay over $100,000 though.
@austinbentley2760
@austinbentley2760 8 ай бұрын
So they just crammed as many batteries possible in there. Check.
@reggiebuffat
@reggiebuffat 8 ай бұрын
That's exactly what you don't want. Why would you want to carry all that expensive weight?
@austinbentley2760
@austinbentley2760 8 ай бұрын
@@reggiebuffatagreed. Rather have a more efficient platform than masking the true issue.
@jghall00
@jghall00 8 ай бұрын
They have lower range models coming. This is probably for a business that tows.
@carsonassociates3263
@carsonassociates3263 8 ай бұрын
@@reggiebuffatWe are presently obsessed with highway range, regardless of how infrequently we push the envelope.
@harrellellison9243
@harrellellison9243 8 ай бұрын
With 12k towing, an that range, i would seriously consider buy that Truck
@davestvwatching2408
@davestvwatching2408 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if range anxiety/saving kilowatts will help reduce speeds on the highways. We really need to reduce speeds because 80 mph will likely kill you and others and 60 mph the chance is less.
@MadMax-ge2ve
@MadMax-ge2ve 20 күн бұрын
***** Rented this truck for 9 days and the screen blackout and the AC gave out due to a HIGH VOLTAGE CHARGE which was prompt on the screen. I had no AC on a hot day while it was raining. I was in Texas when this all happened ***** Save your money until it’s fixed
@DrJeffM
@DrJeffM 8 ай бұрын
Would this test be more accurate with more than 1 person in the vehicle? If a family of 3-4 were in this vehicle with moderate luggage, would the available range change a lot? At an 80K price point, I don't think a truck should have too many limitations (I know this naive, yet it is my opinion). At some point the value or price should match the utility.
@jpscharged
@jpscharged 8 ай бұрын
If you are on the highway the change would be negligible.
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 8 ай бұрын
13:29 that's lucid territory. Although I would say, because speed effects efficiency so much this test probably can't be counted on for accuracy. Although I can't blame andre for not wanting to rerun it. Sounds like it's a whole day thing.
@rustyhardison9530
@rustyhardison9530 6 ай бұрын
Can you please do a full range test from 100% to 0%.
@davestvwatching2408
@davestvwatching2408 8 ай бұрын
I still want someone to do a long range test on an EV but never go on a highway.
@JDDevice
@JDDevice 8 ай бұрын
That's asking a lot. Lol. With GMs amazing regen calibration, that's a 24hr test.
@Larseus
@Larseus 8 ай бұрын
Impressive, as a Tesla owner of the Model 3, I hope Chevy does well! I am still waiting for my preorder of the Cybertruck though 😃
@NMLife22
@NMLife22 8 ай бұрын
Going off of percentage is not an accurate measurement. What was the average miles/kWh for the full trip? You briefly mentioned it was 2.1, did it finish at a that same rate? With a 213kWh pack using 2.1 m/kWh the total range would be somewhere around 447 miles of range.
@seanbooth845
@seanbooth845 8 ай бұрын
I agree horrible way to measure the battery, I want to see it actually go that distance.
@JohnCap523
@JohnCap523 8 ай бұрын
@@seanbooth845 It’ll go 2.1mpk so long as the drive is approximately the same, so it will go ~445 miles. There’s no mystery to it.
@seanbooth845
@seanbooth845 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnCap523 that’s what they claim. I want to see it in real world conditions not on a piece of paper. Too often their claims fail to meet the basic numbers.
@JohnCap523
@JohnCap523 8 ай бұрын
@@seanbooth845 You just SAW it with your own eyes, 2.1mpk in mixed driving. It’s just arithmetic after that. My EV6 AWD averages 4.5mpk x 77.4kW battery = 348 miles.
@seanbooth845
@seanbooth845 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnCap523 regardless of your view on this. I would still like to see the test completed in the real world. In the real world there will be different situations that may or may not affect the range, is it hot out? Cold out? Ac on or heat, windows down, hit a traffic jam. Real world conditions WILL affect the range, I’m curious as to how much. If your happy with the results on paper cool I am not.
@mgarcia8878
@mgarcia8878 8 ай бұрын
That truck is a steal if you also use it as a power backup for your home.
@hugegamer5988
@hugegamer5988 7 ай бұрын
Chevy really came through on the Silverado with the 200+kwh pack. Ford messed up badly with the 100-130mile tow range. This beast gets 200-240miles towing a real load.
@protovack
@protovack 8 ай бұрын
i wish we could get driving impressions, but im sure they are still under embargo. I want to know how it rides compared to gas pickups. The range is plenty and honestly not an issue anymore.
@chadzigler
@chadzigler 8 ай бұрын
pickups also use diesel too not just gas, even vans, some cars use diesel not just gas need a test between gas, diesel and electric
@chrisballengee5746
@chrisballengee5746 8 ай бұрын
cant wait to see the tow test on the Ike.
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 8 ай бұрын
Thats 742.2KM for those of us that use proper terms. 🇨🇦
@truscavasile
@truscavasile 4 ай бұрын
i made a reservation for a 39K silverado EV...i dont think ill ever be able to buy it at that price which was already on the high end of what i could comfortably afford.
@michelmasse6225
@michelmasse6225 8 ай бұрын
Why make the screen so big if only 1/2 of it is used? It’s 3 times the battery size of a Tesla Y
@tonycking0121
@tonycking0121 8 ай бұрын
Want to see these in cold winter conditions with heater going
@jpscharged
@jpscharged 8 ай бұрын
It has a battery heater so range at 25F will be similar to range at 105F, about 3% range loss. The packs that don't have this heater suffer far greater range loss. This is with 65F being idea max range temperature.
@joshhodges5688
@joshhodges5688 8 ай бұрын
How fast would it take to charge from 10% to 100% and cost?
@jeremychristensen2875
@jeremychristensen2875 8 ай бұрын
Roughly be charging up 190 kilowatt hours, 80 bucks at a electrify station and 30 bucks at home
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
You don't charge from 10 to 100% on DC fast charge You charge from whatever you get there with (ideally 3 to 5%) to 80% and then move on to the next charger on a trip.
@mauriciomendez1912
@mauriciomendez1912 8 ай бұрын
That's a great estimate for highway,,& freeway driving, however aren't RV better in stop driving traffic?🤔
@EeveePotter
@EeveePotter 3 ай бұрын
Do they have a blue cruse type of ability
@petemiller519
@petemiller519 5 ай бұрын
I you would have travelled 55mi/hr throughout, you would have even better results. That's pretty amazing range.
@FSX239
@FSX239 8 ай бұрын
The $0.48 kwh charge rate shouldn't be ignored. My local Tesla Super charger has a variable time of day charging rate from $0.14 to $0.34 kwh. Much cheaper to own in my local area than the charger shown in this video. I would highly advise people factor the cost of charging in your local markets. While I own a Tesla I'm not a Tesla fan boy. Just thought I'd add something to the conversation.
@sparkywatts3072
@sparkywatts3072 8 ай бұрын
People need to check on rates before recharging just like you do gas prices before filling up an ICE.
@kelviskelvis7140
@kelviskelvis7140 8 ай бұрын
In 15 states Tesla charges by the minute just like the other charge point operators in those 15 states. BTW EA started in Mid Aug variable time of day charging rates in those states that allow charging by the KWh
@hugegamer5988
@hugegamer5988 7 ай бұрын
I’ve noticed public chargers try to inflate the cost of electricity to 3 to 4x the residential rate, much less the bulk contract rate the company buys at and it’s to be on par with gasoline. I get my electricity for $0.14/kwh after all taxes and fees so I just charge at home. Rarely do I ever use a paid charger.
@adolfoabhurtadoc6106
@adolfoabhurtadoc6106 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Andre!! I’m quite impress, was thinking GM was bluffing about the range, this video prove me wrong. Good job from GM!
@carl8790
@carl8790 8 ай бұрын
Despite the high price (yeah I know it's the top model of the work truck), the Silverado EV continues to impress me.
@EdgarRenje
@EdgarRenje 8 ай бұрын
Unless the charging station isn't designed to share the power, it doesn't matter if there are other cars charging or not. You get the full speed possible, which is always set by the car. Multiple parameters come into play. Ambient temperature, battery temperature, battery health, state of charge. So you don't always get the maximum charging power at any given point.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
Most are designed to where you cannot all pull maximum power from the charger at the same time. Similar to Tesla supercharger v2s if two people plug in on the same power cabinet they each get half the rate.
@chadzigler
@chadzigler 8 ай бұрын
i see trucks and cars chargin not just cars call a cardboard a car?
@boinknook
@boinknook 8 ай бұрын
Waiting for next generation solid state batteries. Safer too.
@josephharvey5742
@josephharvey5742 4 ай бұрын
Curious how much it will cost to replace the battery and how many years before it would need to be replaced. I wish GM would put their 3.0 diesel engine in this vehicle and see just how well it would sell.
@nathanbrodeur
@nathanbrodeur 8 ай бұрын
The 4WT has a 215 kilowatt battery with 240 to 250 miles of towing
@jasonpaiva4793
@jasonpaiva4793 8 ай бұрын
Andre, I would like to c ya'all drive it to its maximum range, maybe against a lightning
@jminaya90
@jminaya90 8 ай бұрын
When the battery is 100% full it will drop faster to 75% than 81% to 57%… so a full battery driving regular you will get like 400 miles on the battery
@kelviskelvis7140
@kelviskelvis7140 7 ай бұрын
That is totally made up nonsense
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 8 ай бұрын
Good preliminary test but come on you need to suck it up and go till its empty. This is just an estimate. I'm sure others will do a better job soon. That is just a huge battery pack btw. You would be pressed to fill it up fully from a home charger likely needing 12 hours or so if it was nearly empty but more doable if you didn't run it all the way down. Keep that in mind when installing your home charger and run the max circuit breaker allowed.
@yacahumax1431
@yacahumax1431 2 ай бұрын
I WANT ONE. I hope Chevy dont mess up the electronics experience but if they dont have a NACS on 2025, forget it,.
@1972Russianwolf
@1972Russianwolf 2 ай бұрын
If only the WT had the midgate as an option
@msawyer110
@msawyer110 8 ай бұрын
It's literally double the cost of a model Y. What do you expect. There's nothing special about getting range with a 200kwh pack lol. Horribly inefficient.
@cynricsaxon2945
@cynricsaxon2945 8 ай бұрын
I mean this this is 3 times larger than a model Y and can tow 10,000+ lbs. Lets see a model Y do all that
@heyRex
@heyRex 8 ай бұрын
I saw an EV truck on a flatbed tow truck at a charging station this week. 😆
@bam357
@bam357 6 ай бұрын
Good on GM. More range than the Cybertruck
@KaiPonte
@KaiPonte 8 ай бұрын
Though I've been burned by GM enough (I had a Corvair, Avalanche, Jimmy, Saturn Vue, and piece of crap hybrid Malibu.) - I like that this is an option. I see they have the Chevy Avlanche style sail panels.
@stevewilcoxson7173
@stevewilcoxson7173 8 ай бұрын
That's like luxury segment pricing. 💰💰💰💰
@nobrien1
@nobrien1 8 ай бұрын
'All the way around Denver'? How about the 'Broomfield Gap'? 😁 (Never mind - I see that you took CO 93)
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 ай бұрын
80k isn't cheap but it seems like more bang for your buck than with Cybertruck.
@Skotty64081
@Skotty64081 5 ай бұрын
Your range calculation doesn't pass the smell test. However, the range will still be impressive. I don't like the look of it, though. It will be interesting to see how the consumer versions differ.
@markspence3750
@markspence3750 8 ай бұрын
The guys on "Top Gear" ran 2 EV cars until the broke. It was informative. Each small car still had a little electricity left behind.
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 7 ай бұрын
broke? Don't you mean, ran out of battery? 😕
@markspence3750
@markspence3750 7 ай бұрын
That is what I meant. I had had a few beers when I wrote that. Sorry. @@neutrino78x
@carsonassociates3263
@carsonassociates3263 8 ай бұрын
14:20 $79,800 for a full-size EV truck with a 240+kWh battery pack? Seems a little “unsustainable,” like a $39k F150L Pro.
@craig8638
@craig8638 8 ай бұрын
They are making a huge battery statement.
@zwolfe12
@zwolfe12 5 ай бұрын
While it's good to know the range especially if you're in the market for an EV. I really want to know the cost per mile in real world numbers. See how it compares to driving a comparable work truck powered by gasoline. If you want converts from gas to EV, that's where the comparison should be.
@markleyg
@markleyg 5 ай бұрын
Depends where you charge. If charge at home, would be about 1/3 price.
@thepalerider
@thepalerider 8 ай бұрын
Can we get some winter testing on these EV trucks? I live in a state that has 4 seasons and I don’t own a garage. I’d like to see the difference in range and charging in below freezing temps. And then I’d like to know how the affects of heat and extreme cold affect the battery life and capacity over a long period of time.
@khoatran9482
@khoatran9482 8 ай бұрын
EV owner here, expect 30% range loss in winter. Tons of more indepth videos on heat and extreme cold. Long story short, unless your EV doesn't have active cooling/heating, it will still outlast your desire to keep the vehicle after 10 years.
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
@Digikidthevoiceofreason 8 ай бұрын
Once winter gets there, yes.
@protovack
@protovack 8 ай бұрын
im assuming they will do that when it becomes winter....
@trullmann
@trullmann 8 ай бұрын
Kyle at out of spec reviews will probably be doing that very same thing. He did a pretty in-depth video on his rivian pickup. It went from 2.2mi per kWh down to 0.85 miles per kWh in Colorado last winter. His truck was not towing anything. You did a real world test to see what the truck would do when it's pretty cold out. And it's his favorite EV.
@thepalerider
@thepalerider 8 ай бұрын
What do you think the practicality is of owning an EV in a 4 season state and not owning a garage?
@jjohur
@jjohur 7 ай бұрын
GM has the highest range maybe but also has the biggest, heaviest and costliest battery.
@marioguevara5966
@marioguevara5966 8 ай бұрын
This is what really sucks. Taking too long to charge. I know the everything it's a work in progress but the infrastructure still not there.
@scottbradley7591
@scottbradley7591 8 ай бұрын
Very impressive range! But at a starting price of 79K! If you can afford that why would you not just get a Hummer EV fully loaded for 30K more? GM better pray that the Cybertruck doesn't come in under 6ok for the base model. I get asked all the time why would someone want an EV. With the current price of new cars by the big 3, Tesla is going to start selling more model 3's just because its going to be what people can afford and not exactly what they want. I really do not believe it should be labeled as the big 3 any longer either, its the big 4.
@juliuscheng5788
@juliuscheng5788 8 ай бұрын
Couple points: the Silverado EV efficiency is higher than the Hummer EV - their long-term Hummer EV would get around 1-1.1 mi/kWh. This truck is about double that. Second, the way the production Cybertruck is looking, this Silverado seems to have more usability for actual truck things than the Cybertruck - I've seen reports of preproduction Cybertruck mules having sloped inner bed walls, which makes hauling some loads (like plywood) not as easy. Not to mention that reaching over the bed side behind the cabin on the Cybertruck would be nearly impossible. The Silverado EV doesn't look particularly easy either, but at least there's a side step and the bed doesn't go all the way to the roofline.
@Dqtube
@Dqtube 8 ай бұрын
The Hammer is just a show car , this is a more practical and useful version of it. It's a matter of personal taste.
@MrRaitzi
@MrRaitzi 8 ай бұрын
Old prices will never come back. Inflation from covid stimulus made sure and not more increases coming because union wants 40% more pay.
@johnb7430
@johnb7430 8 ай бұрын
​@@MrRaitzithe union is shooting themselves in the nuts. Higher wages will drive more automation and reduce the number of direct labor by 50% or more.
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
The model 3 is the best-selling car in the entire world right now.... Also in places like Colorado they're 22,000 because of incentives
@kennymuhleisen1857
@kennymuhleisen1857 2 ай бұрын
Do it towing a trailer around town like normal truck use.
@Tiersmoke92555
@Tiersmoke92555 8 ай бұрын
Thats gonna add hours to a major road trip. I drive 8-10 hrs one way and stopping for half an hour or more wouldn't be fun. Will I even be able to maintain a "productive" travel rate on the highway? Most EVs on the interstates are in the slow lane or blocking the fast. All this for a "stripped" $80k work truck?
@duramaxadventures5832
@duramaxadventures5832 8 ай бұрын
8hr is 400 miles so should be good. Then fill for 15 minutes to go another 100 miles.
@kelviskelvis7140
@kelviskelvis7140 8 ай бұрын
@@duramaxadventures5832 Plus at a 350KW DC charger for 10 minutes for 100 miles.
@mariusexotic
@mariusexotic 8 ай бұрын
Driving 25% of the battery and multiply that by 4 is not a accurate test, even Tesla trip computer is adjusting the numbers on the fly to make it look very optimistic at the beginning but quite pessimistic towards the end of trip
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