Another experiment you could try is something I did where I ground off the grooves on a sandwedge in order to prove to my pupils that for them it is not all about the grooves. That the spin rate remains remarkably high and that my 18 handicapers don’t need to change their wedges every 12 months because they keep getting told on the Internet that the grooves are wearing out
@jj975118 күн бұрын
I did bend all my irons 2 degrees stronger to optimize my gapping in relation to how far my hybrids and woods go and been playing them. It works great.
@MJ-LazyBones17 күн бұрын
All the best for Christmas and New Year AJ and your family. I started a new job in a proshop this year and your channel has helped me be Moree efficient and professional at our club. Appreciate you man.
@EFGMC17 күн бұрын
That's great. Hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas!
@sassyfassy859418 күн бұрын
I'm new to the channel. Club making and fitting is something I've been wanting to do as a side hustle for quite some time. Watching your channel has really given me the itch to make a dream come to fruition. Thank you
@claudevoyer712417 күн бұрын
Interesting video as usual and will take the opportunity to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas.
@EFGMC17 күн бұрын
Thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
@gariegalaraga45459 күн бұрын
Excellent content I wish golf KZbinr explain it as simple as this I’m a newbie and no clue about different lofts and angle you got my sub thank you!!
@AndrewNeilBaird18 күн бұрын
I bought a set of Greg Norman Australian blade irons . The 6 and 9 irons were very worn from the range , and when checked the 9 had the loft of an 8 and the 6 was the same loft as the 4 in the set . Very soft heads , but worth the 49 blabs I paid .
@tonysanta349718 күн бұрын
Very nice video!!!! I personally play 2° weaker to keep it in the air longer. I have gained 20 yards as a result. I always tell people their game is their game, forget what other people have in their bags.
@eric102018 күн бұрын
20 yards? This is possible only if you deloft an insane amount (like you're hitting stingers every time), or have such low clubhead speed that you can't keep the ball in the air.
@richardpexton582617 күн бұрын
Would love to see a video on offset with clubs , I’m confused about more or less offset and what it is for . I have 2 sets of irons and the ones with less offset seem to be a lot more accurate
@mick1942118 күн бұрын
Can you explain why at American golf when I had a check up, that the fitter said he would be inclined to put my irons at 3 degrees upright as it would assist me to stop slicing and pushing ?. Enjoyed this video as normal, your channel is really enlightening. Thanks.
@samdonald19818 күн бұрын
It would come down to your swing. The more upright the lie angle of a club is, the more the ball will draw and hook. A flatter lie will cause slicing, etc.
@EFGMC18 күн бұрын
The upright lie will point the face further to the left which can help if you have issues with a slice.
@Hunter-zp5hd13 күн бұрын
That was really interesting. I had custom ordered (no extra cost) a set that was 1 degree upright and 1 degree strong. By seeing the results here, I basically wasted the effort. It looks like you would need to be far more aggressive in order to see much difference. Probably could’ve just ordered them standard and it probably wouldn’t have made much difference, particularly for an amateur player that had more variation in swing than a professional.
@EFGMC12 күн бұрын
1 degree will probably yield about 2-3 yards over the long haul. As you said, most golfers aren't that consistent with their distances so 2 or 3 degrees would be needed to see any change on a shot to shot basis.
@jeffgibson64518 күн бұрын
Look forward to seeing this club on eBay. 🤣🤣🤣
@kusler6718 күн бұрын
This is a great representation as to why iron sets generally don't go below 24 deg. Most people do not have the club head speed for it. It doesn't matter if you call it a 1 iron, 3 iron, or 5 iron, a 21 deg iron is very hard to hit.
@youngkim66618 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree. The one factor is that 6 iron shaft length is shorter than a 3 iron so you’ll have less club head speed
@eric102018 күн бұрын
Except that's not true. Standard iron sets go to 21 or 22 degrees, which is a 4 iron on most sets. With new tech it's not that hard to hit. Anyone with 95+ driver ss can easily get a 22 deg iron in the air.
@phytosnappy306917 күн бұрын
You miss about 4mph club head speed with a 6 iron vs 3/4 iron, makes a difference getting it up with enough spin and land angle.
@youngkim66617 күн бұрын
@@eric1020true with modern hollow body stuff. Not true with modern fully forged/cast solid body clubs
@eric102017 күн бұрын
@youngkim666 All hollow body clubs are cast. The term "forged/cast" literally covers all golf clubs. But my point still stands. 22 deg is standard 4 or 5 iron. They come with all sets. They're not super hard to hit for average and above ss.
@dennissmith190418 күн бұрын
What i found missing was discussion of effect on decent angle and spin at each of these lofts.
@krusher7418 күн бұрын
There was not really a great discussion on what all this showed. Down at 21 it was basically a 4iron, would have been interesting to hit a stock 21 deg takomo and see what produced and if it was easier to hit.
@Evan_Rodgers18 күн бұрын
Descent and spin will go up as you add loft, and vice versa.
@wessmith491318 күн бұрын
@@krusher74 21 degrees is more of a 3 iron unless you are talking about loft jacked clubs
@manuelgraposa642518 күн бұрын
Amazing that Takomo 6 iron took that much bending! I play the 101s. I would ask though, by bending it in either direction, aren’t you in effect turning that 6 iron into a 5 iron or a 7 iron?
@Evan_Rodgers18 күн бұрын
No, it still says 6 iron on the club.
@PhilbyFavourites18 күн бұрын
@@Evan_Rodgersclever…. You’ve been at those mince pies haven’t you….
@gcoffey22318 күн бұрын
@@Evan_Rodgers Yup.. that 20° 6 iron identifies as a 6 iron 😂😂😂
@jonathansmith970517 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what the message was? It couldn't have been that one could bend a club lots. Does it make sense to bend a club or just club up? I'd consider doing it for gapping purposes.
@mrwibbly18 күн бұрын
your last setup is the exact argument against one length. i always play my clubs 2 weak because A) i like more traditional lofts, helps me get in a good window and B) straight neck is the only club i ever want to look at. offset is downright offensive and nobody builds anything without it anymore.
@bruceshearer871118 күн бұрын
Great demo. Do you ever consider bending just one or two irons to get proper gaping. My ping gap wedge and 9 iron don’t play like they are part of the rest of the set. I am sure it must be my swing but I just don’t seem to get the proper distance.
@EFGMC18 күн бұрын
Often you will have 1 or 2 clubs that aren't matching up either because they aren't set at the correct loft or based on the individuals swing. In that case we just fix those outliers.
@OldBiscuit5413 күн бұрын
When you increase loft you increase BOUNCE.....yup....bounce can actually get in the way of good contact
@roberthaynes66413 күн бұрын
pro tip---todays 7 iron is yesterdays 5 iron. tomorrow it will be a 9 iron. Yes they want to sell the clubs they make but some things stay the same....like loft.
@711himself18 күн бұрын
2 degrees stronger is safe & will give you extra distance w/o compromising structural integrity…
@krusher7418 күн бұрын
depends whether it s a forged or cast head. and each manufacturer will tell you what bent limits their heads have, you you don't have to make a sweeping guess.
@sonycarp827118 күн бұрын
I just bought a set of used dyna power forged, they are 1/4 inch short on the shaft, will that ruin the club, seller was not aware, please advise, 🌳
@EFGMC18 күн бұрын
1/4 inch usually won't makes any difference. It will really only show in the short irons.
@sonycarp827118 күн бұрын
@EFGMC how would it change short irons, what would happen, 🌳 Thank you for your help
@seamusc114 күн бұрын
Wilson irons are usually 1/4 inch longer than most other manufacturers as standard. So 1/4 short is probably same as other brands standard
@sonycarp827114 күн бұрын
@@seamusc1 thank you, 👍
@carolinamountainliving750118 күн бұрын
How does an iron bent to the same degrees as a standard club compare? Or how would a 7i bent to a 5i loft compare to a 5i?
@carolinamountainliving750118 күн бұрын
@ for sure, but would the distance on a solid strike being any different? Low ball flight with the short irons and high ball flight with the long irons with proper gapping is the holy grail of iron fitting. Wondering if bending would help accomplish that.
@Criscross29218 күн бұрын
The 7i would tend to go left more due to the offset. It would also generally not go as far since the shaft is shorter than the 5i
@nelsonjames127218 күн бұрын
Hey man, you’re hitting it further these days but the swing looks identical. What are you doing do get more distance? Also, what shaft and specs are you using? It’s perfect for you. Thanks
@EFGMC18 күн бұрын
I appreciate it. My speed has gone up a few miles per hour. I'm also trying to keep more forward shaft lean through impact. I had DG 120 X100 in here.
@krusher7418 күн бұрын
If clubs are usually 3deg between clubs and gapping is 10 years, we should be getting 3.3yards per deg.
@gcoffey22318 күн бұрын
9° bend?? That is surprising to hear. 15° is nuts!! I coukd definitely hit that 7i past my friends 7i😂😂😂 Impressive on Tokomo
@EFGMC18 күн бұрын
Yeah, did not think I'd get 9 degrees after already going so far the other direction.
@noel_198818 күн бұрын
Is it possible to bend a p770 3 degrees stronger?
@EFGMC18 күн бұрын
Yes.
@williamschultz819818 күн бұрын
This must be a forged iron. Don't try to bend a cast iron this way.
@thelammas828318 күн бұрын
Must easier. Take your 7 iron and just paint an 8 on it.
@craigcrawford674917 күн бұрын
So, bend your 7 iron so you can hit it as far as a 6 iron, but you still need something to hit your previous 7 iron distance. wtf? Who fucking cares how far your irons go as long as they go where you want.