How far can you shoot an ARROW with ROPE?

[@Roland3ld]

Thanks for the supercut, Shad. Here is the usual full engagement for KZbin.

[@jimmycher45]

Not me expecting the arrow to hit the herd as the camera snaps to them at 4:46

[@Mister_Jolly_]

If you reverse every other loop when you coil the rope, it will unwind much more effectively.

[@Mister_Jolly_]

Also, larger loops are better.

[@Kryten0815]

Good test from Shad and good advice from you. One can search for a video titled "How Pros Wrap Extension Cords, Cables & Hoses" and that should work for rope, too.

[@Dresden358]

This was Shads fault. The rope doesn't have to tangle like that. Bad test

[@Hot_Dice]

@@Dresden358the rope didn’t tangle every time. The main issue is the drag of the rope. I get your point but I think instinctively we all know the rope is the problem

[@sawdustcrypto3987]

Yes, proper coiling works wonders. Also, if you had help, you could have somebody throw the coil forward into the air just before the shot which could get you significantly more distance as well

[@DIREWOLFx75]

From what i found out once upon a time, to shoot rope with a bow, you need a special superheavy arrow and you need a rope that is more stiff, closer to something like thin metal wire, as otherwise, yeah, tangling is automatically a BIG problem. Oh, and preferably a much stronger bow as well. Amusingly, i've been told that the closest media has come to reality in regards to this(and still mostly NOT realistic), is the old movie Revenge of the Ninja. The distance is far too great, BUT, he uses a special arrow, a special bow that he has to draw sitting with the bow held by the feet, to get enough pullstrength. And he uses a very THIN CORD during the shot, which is then used to drag a stronger line across until it locks into the arrow. . "20 meters?", "40 meters?" Yeah. BUUUT, we know that shooting ropes with arrows HAVE been done historically, but AFAIK, absolutely NEVER in any way similar to how its overwhelmingly mostly done in fiction. And even there it's RARE. IIRC, there was some junglepeople that used it for hunting birds on rivers, to avoid the bird just going away with the flow of the water, and i think this was the most common actual historical use that we know of. Oh, and some people used it for fishing as well. Supposedly, it's possible to reach 100m under absolutely perfect conditions, but 50-55m is normally closer to the limit of reality.

[@petetenerife5859]

There was an episode from the British sitcom "Dad's Army" where the vicar used an arrow with silk thread. It was implied that the rope still needed to be pulled up with the thread.

[@joshuaclark1696]

It was cool to see this done with your war bow and big arrows. I've only ever done it with a light line and a much lighter bow and arrow to get over a tree branch. It just Barely could get high enough.

[@JellyKidBiz]

I just used my 30 lb recurve bow to lob a twine-laden arrow over my 30' house. It only worked when I laid out the length of the twine on the ground first.

[@MauricioOsuna-et8et]

The way I see it, you'd need a specialized arrow, thicker to allow a row of 3-4 holes to weave in the rope - this will limit it to a rope thinner than the arrow, but it won't hit the bow on its way out. The second issue would be of having an arrowhead speacilized for digging into and grappling the wood so as to stay hooked. The third issue would be the arrow. Ain't no arrow holding a grown man's weight. The fourth issue would be... The rope itself. If you're limited to a thin rope, you're not exactly going to rappel through it. It's a trope, for entertainment, and nothing more. You might use it to sneak in items from one place to another, but when was the last time you saw a movie about a TEAM OF ROGUES each doing one thing and cooperating from a distance? ... Honestly, this would be like The Lost Vikings, where each character is unique and puzzles are solved by making each one take a specific action in a set order.

[@emilycoy8289]

I just discovered this channel due to an old video "names and terms of a medieval castle's parts" and it was super helpful! All of your videos look interesting so far and I will be watching in the future. A video about the names and terms for parts of medieval ships would be amazing, too, if you're ever looking for more content to create!

[@NeonViper00]

One of us, one of us

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Now I'm curious about the Siege of Helms Deep, Uruk Hai using balistas to fire ropes onto the ramparts and using those to lift the massive siege ladders, with a decent compliment of Uruks holding on and ready for battle.

[@skylerstevens8887]

I wish I could be a hero, the best I can do is opening every supercut just to like it.

[@Extanglia]

These are the types of experiments we need!!!

[@orionstarrthegreat2514]

I'm doing my part

[@gregwilliams9]

Dude's crew is even period dressed!

[@ice4cow]

For a full engagement I'd like to point out that to my knowledge, since this is from one video, it can't really be called a supercut.

[@falconknight4964]

Functional Fandom! love that content on the channel !

[@sda4jesus1]

Everyone knows that silly Shad can't reproduce the insuperable mastery of bowmanship as is limited to such legends as Robin Hood, whose spellbinding exploits viewers can only marvel upon in a blissful suspension of disbelief. ;-)

[@grantpflum6844]

Functional fandom. That takes me WAY back.

[@brutalhonesty3372]

Just doing my part.

[@scientoakuilusakuilar]

This was cool to see. Ropes really do affect the arrow's flight!

[@zinothofchaos]

Instead of making the arrow thinker and adding holes, the best solution might be to make an additional hook of sorts on the back of the arrow, maybe clamped on with a pin or bent edges that slightly dig into the arrow butt. Then have a small metal loop like a chain link that allows for a rope to be connected with a small carabiner you might use on a keychain. But have the loop also shaped in a way that allows for the usual gripping arrows do on the bowstring.

[@trathanstargazer6421]

Nice to revisit some of this episodes.

[@CreepyMF]

Doing my part.

[@killuafanboy3812]

I miss these. Also, I miss when Shad talks about fantasy things like which medival weapons would be moat effective against a kraken. 😂

[@alexharrisdirector]

Also you can try wrapping over/under like a camera or sound cable. Makes unwinding straight and quick much faster

[@robertsmith4681]

20 meters is probably plenty of distance for the sort of thing this would be useful for like passing lines between ships at sea or getting a line over most common obstacles ...

[@MichaelRoachDavid]

😂, glad to see this. Works better with fishing line linked to a rope and pull throughout

[@arthasmenethil9957]

That one WoW cinematic of Sylvanas fighting the Lich King I think provides a cool alternative to having the rope attached to a plain arrow. A magic arrow that when it hits afterwards extends a rope/chain either down or wherever you want it.

[@garion742]

Been nice having these small snippets from the way back machine. Hope they keep helping the channel. Also hope we see some new material soon. Miss Tyranth, Nate, and present day Shad

[@exegetor]

When you laid the rope on the grass, it reminded me of an anchor chain laying on the sea bed. The arrow might try to drag it instead of lifting it. Perhaps a loose pile of rope would work best?

[@alexharrisdirector]

Can we watch you 3 go into a hema contest? I’d love to support yall more. Medieval mythbusters is how I pitch your channel to people who haven’t heard of you guys

[@jierdareisa4313]

I love ALL THE SHADLANDS videos!!!! ❤

[@LunaHusky805]

There's a way of coiling the rope so that it doesn't tangle. They use it in the film and music industry to coil electric cords.

[@taleg1]

For best effect I think you might need to use a wave trick, lay out the rope like a widening pyramid of side to side rope. That should pull out more smoothly and allow the arrow to go further.

[@vannersp]

Thanks, Shad

[@SarahFearnley958]

That why it’s a fantasy world. But in all seriousness, this was fun to watch.

[@Watch_over_us]

I was just thinking about this video so its good to see you brought it back

[@lynngreen7978]

20m ~ 60'. Standard Adventurer Rope is 50' (`17m). Sounds perfect.

[@Reapacz]

I‘ve never realized how thick medieval arrows can get… That’s kinda terrifying💀

[@YoinkinatorX]

There are techniques to coil/flake rope without a spool such that the rope is unlikely to tangle as it unravels, though I think the point is moot in the latter two shots. That said, I agree that the trope is unrealistic. The arrow is gaining mass and drag as it flies, so it can't fly as far and probably would not have enough energy to penetrate an object enough to hold the weight of a person. The only realistic use I can think of would be to bridge a gap: after firing, you could tie a heavier rope to the lighter rope and pull it across. That requires a person receiving the arrow on the far side, though, but it would be useful for constructing ropeway bridges across gaps.

[@allendenton33]

Gonna start commenting on videos just to help the algorithm. Even if I don’t have anything to really say. Here to support the little I can 👍🏼👍🏼

[@CW-ng1mf]

Another issue could perhaps be the relatively low weight of the arrow compared to the total weight of the rope. A grapling hook is a lot heavier than even the heaviest arrow

[@widgren87]

I can see some improvised uses for this like say needing to get a rope across a river or ravine that is to wide to simply throw the rope across, and no magic, flying or teleporting, but you have a friend on the other side. Maybe a agreed meeting with storm floods tearing down the bridge or rope bridge giving up as or what ever the reasons behind it be. Shooting an arrow with a very thin line like say a fishing line across the gap to allow the ones on the other side to pull a stronger rope across is still worth it. Hope this made sense ;-)

[@28Cryptic743]

I have a suggestion as to how you could attempt to shoot your arrow with a scenario with the rope, I've seen some setups with shooting rope and they have the rope laying on the ground in front of them in a zig zag fashion so it is all closely arranged near them and with it like that it would give the less amount of drag on the grass. also your comment on the side of the bow the rope would be on, you could have the rope laying on the other side and then it could go over your bow arm instead of your pull arm

[@andrewleonard8408]

Comment for the algorithm! 10/10 content Shad!

[@whydingus2379]

Yup just as expected

[@JellyKidBiz]

I found this video because I was looking for a way to get a safety rope over the 30' peak roof of my house. I decided I wanted to tie twine to an arrow and lob it over then tie my end of the twine to the rope and pull it over. I use a 30 lb recurve bow (I'm a 5'7", 123 lb woman), and the arrow does cross over on my bow. Initially, I had someone holding the spool of twine on a rod so that it would unspool...but that was too much for it. Then I unspooled a large amount (about 50 feet) and laid it in 3 rows, tied it to my arrow and shot it over (making sure to twist my bow wrist away from the line as soon as I shot). It worked perfectly! I think this may be the only practical application for tying anything to an arrow.

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

In rock climbing, you always unwind the rope before climbing to be sure that there is no tangle like you had. A climber would never just put the coils of rope directly on the ground like you did, it's sure to make a knot at one point.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

This is an awesome idea to test, I’ve always wondered how realistic it was. I like Brandon Sanderson’s version of it.

[@TheHealeyverse]

Always impressed by the creativity of these video ideas. Keep up the good work shad👍. Hope we can start to do some similar experimantal sessions in future.

[@captaindropkik]

Oh wow a video on my home feed

[@Knight_Astolfo]

You could also try using a string with a rope spliced on after about 5-10m. Really wont get you much better, but then you wouldn't have to make a large hole in your arrow for the most secure type of rope arrow. Said it then, saying it now: not exactly an infiltration method, but might be a good way to steal food from a poorly guarded castle.

[@calvingreene90]

Coil your rope in a figure 8 pattern so that you do not put an increasing twist tention that will tangle the rope.

[@immortalmonk2891]

Instructions unclear, halfling crit-seeking ranger build with the lucky feat says it's

[@Homme_Pur]

Half of my brain wants to do the math on this, sadly the other one tells me I have more important things to do even tho it might not take that long

[@meganfoster8838]

I was always suspicious of that trope.

[@laser8389]

If you know how to coil your rope, you won't get so many tangles. If you're planning on using the rope regularly, even without the arrow trick, you'll learn how to do that. Every hardcore sound tech person I know gives me so much grief when they see my cable management so I'm not the one to give pointers, but I know there are definitely ways to make it better.

[@shawy83]

Every film i've seen where they do this, the guy shooting is sorting the rope in his hands looking at his target during exposition

[@ИльяЛебедев-я2п]

If functional limit of arrow with a rope is limited to 20metres it may be more than enough for really cpecific obstacles that just rope or rope with the hook can't overcome. But are arrows even strong enough not to be broken by human's weight?

[@GameSage12_]

I'd like to bring to your attention a recent video by Kentucky Ballistics testing medieval weapons against modern armor. Like DemoRanch before, the creator didn't have the best quality examples, and I'd like your opinion on the results and his conclusions. I am not bringing this up as a means of conflict, I actually really like the guy and his content is fun.

[@TheSpongyMallard]

I think there are ways to more realistic ways of making rope zip lines or rope swings in a DnD groups or a game. You shoot the rope arrow over the branch, beam or whatever else and then you have a mage you the mage hand skill to tie it to be secure.

[@MauricioOsuna-et8et]

Hey Shadd, what about trick arrows? Those tied with balloons to douse candles and torches, or even with igniting arrowheads to create sparks on impact. How practical would those be, if at all feasible?

[@jackrico7881]

Realizing how many movies have done this..

[@seymourfields3613]

Shad, your dad needs to teach you how to wrap cords and cables. Your second test was a little better, but I noticed this on the original video, as well.. A properly wrapped cable should be able to be thrown fifty feet and uncoil neatly. I've seen old hands do it with a hundred foot cable. I'd love to see your dad help you remake this video and show how to coil a rope or cable.

[@gerardmcquade9102]

the reason it got caught is the way you coil it up. also to keep they rope on the arrow you need to cut a notch in it

[@Riftrender]

I wanna watch Robin Hood now.

[@Pyramid789]

How about a fishing line?

[@enoughothis]

Would a Japanese bow with it's heavier arrow work better?

[@BS-hammer]

There is a technique to spool rope for quick release. You can't just rap it up around your thumb and elbow and expect it to not twist up and tangle.

[@QuaDawg]

I wonder if you could test the Tomb Raider shot where it is fairly close but does it stick in enough to hold any weight. Thank you!

[@Likexner]

It wont hold a person, i am sure of that.

[@crusaderjess]

Awesome!

[@tobiassalisbury245]

The only way this could work is with an ulralight fishing line on a reel, and then feeding the heavier rope necessary with the line

[@simonvelar]

Did you try to wind/unwind the rope along a tube or wide stick?

[@andrewcatallo2698]

Dude Kentucky ballistics who is a friend of demolition ranch he’s got swords and flails it’s worth your response lol

[@blehnameless8096]

Youve done this exact thing before about a year or 2 ago if i remember correctly?

[@TheHornedKing]

Yes, this is the same video, but shortened.

[@blehnameless8096]

@@TheHornedKing that would make sense, cheers

[@TheBlackadder-Edmund]

Sorry mrs cow, didnt think i could shoot so far... 😜

[@alexharrisdirector]

Use double clove hitch knot on arrow. It won’t slip

[@manticorenettleable]

Wonder how a fire arrow with a rope would work?

[@ericsmith5770]

That’s not that bad in my mind. Definitely situational

[@lightblue8818]

Ive always wondered how far you could shoot a rope haha. See it plenty in games and movies.

[@commanderbacon6426]

Commenting for the algorithm.

[@AbsoluuttinenTotuus]

Planning to kill those cows?

[@Emppu_T.]

Ever want to fire a rope with an arrow? You have knotting to worry about ! I think the best chance is to lay down the rope unwound on the ground

[@theromanorder]

Please do a video on this kzbin.infoUgkxCPUbFX5AKUq2o2V2XH92EkfZUXxeRQOB how to fight oponits of different sizes to you fighting on your back how would you fight in inclosed space like a ship or a house. one on if a morning star turned into a flail.. If 2 bladed sword had 1 blade (same handle how dose it change fighting) and a baionet for a crossbow, mabey it could dig like a shovel if you put it on the foot rest all of the different types of pomnels or mabey dress in a traditional lady's dress or formal clothes, or uniforms like the inperials fom star wars, and see how restricted it is in combat... one on paudrines (sorry for spelling) one on lorica musculata, the roman armor of generals and other leaders, how would combat be effected by water? (like fighting in or under water) how to fight animals (with your skill set, how would it be aproched traditionally) some videos on Egyptian wepons or Babylon, persan, sumerion, ect from pre hellenistic, mabey even Korean wepons, or wepons from Thailand, veitnam, a some Chinese, Australia, Pacific countries (including aotroa) (please learn the pronounceations)

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I use a bow normally ...

[@draco5797]

combine a crossbow and a harpoon gun for a video, I think it would work better, and it would be fun to see.

[@josuesepulveda6850]

🏰⚔️

[@rolandswift4311]

69 comments... nice. anyway; I wonder if a heavier arrow would work better. The added mass might give it enough inertia to help it pull the rope further, assuming you could fire it.

[@arachnophilegrrl]

For the algorithm!

[@fortheemperor4754]

Totally not for boosting algorithm

[@philipelandt]

With a serious rope you could shoot for maybe 10m? Maaaybe?

[@pyeitme508]

Welp use a grabbling hook from a launcher is better😂

[@Snowdawg2020]

Hello

[@tobybellend6508]

What a myth bust

[@chancho915]

Likee and commented for the algorithm

[@AbsoluuttinenTotuus]

Shad I'm sorry to tell you this… but you fell off bozo.

[@vincentred1870]

When I typed "Shadlands", youtube was like "did you mean Shadowlands?" AND DIDNT FIND THE CHANNEL! When I typed "Shadland" it was the first thing from the top... I dont even....